MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

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lolabelle

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SouthernBreeze said:
Aren't they two separate vaccines? Why would they lie about which one they are giving out? I don't think the C-19 vax would do anything for MP. Or, are you saying that the MP vaccine is a fake?
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At this point, I’m not trusting ANY vaccine. But what if they’re using MP to panic everyone to get the MP vaccine. Even those who haven’t taken the COVID one. I don’t really know at this point. But something isn’t right about this whole thing. At this point I just don’t know what to think.
 
SouthernBreeze

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StarryEyedLad

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From what I have gathered, there is no such thing as a monkeypox-specific vaccine. The vaccine that is being administered right now is a smallpox vaccine under the name Jynneos, with the idea that it will help because the poxes are similar. Jynneos has only been around for a few years. The older, traditional smallpox vaccines have basically been shelved as far as I have been able to ascertain.

If any of this is in error, I hope someone will please say so. It's important.
 
SouthernBreeze

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StarryEyedLad said:
From what I have gathered, there is no such thing as a monkeypox-specific vaccine. The vaccine that is being administered right now is a smallpox vaccine under the name Jynneos, with the idea that it will help because the poxes are similar. Jynneos has only been around for a few years. The older, traditional smallpox vaccines have basically been shelved as far as I have been able to ascertain.

If any of this is in error, I hope someone will please say so. It's important.
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Thanks.
 
StarryEyedLad

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I started searching for "Jynneos" on the board and found a couple of relevant posts in this thread. There is a second smallpox vaccine called ACAM2000, but it is not being used or recommended as often.

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They have you exactly where they want you. The veil will be lifted by the end of September. I like doing my own research based on facts not assumptions or opinions, and especially not "TWEETS".
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CDC map of the United States showing which states are now reporting infections; its not a pretty picture, either. This also shows how many cases, in each state. https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/response/2022/us-map.html This guy….I don’t know WHO he is but read through this one!! I’m...
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Tristan

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SouthernBreeze said:
Now, see, this is what I'm talking about. Is this vaccine a new quick version, or is it the old well tested tried and true version that's been around forever?
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What is this Monkeypox Vaccine "that's been around forever" that you keep referring to?

I did a quick search, and did not see any info regarding a venerable (old and trusted) vaccine for MP...
 
SouthernBreeze

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StarryEyedLad said:
I started searching for "Jynneos" on the board and found a couple of relevant posts in this thread. There is a second smallpox vaccine called ACAM2000, but it is not being used or recommended as often.

MNKYPOX - Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

They have you exactly where they want you. The veil will be lifted by the end of September. I like doing my own research based on facts not assumptions or opinions, and especially not "TWEETS".
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com

MNKYPOX - Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

CDC map of the United States showing which states are now reporting infections; its not a pretty picture, either. This also shows how many cases, in each state. https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/response/2022/us-map.html This guy….I don’t know WHO he is but read through this one!! I’m...
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com
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Thanks. I think you just answered my question. The JYNNEOS vaccine is the one that I'm thinking has been around for a while. Several years, maybe, and has been tested repeatedly as being safe. Wasn't it developed just in case there was another smallpox outbreak, since the old childhood vax has been done away with?
 
SouthernBreeze

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Tristan said:
What is this Monkeypox Vaccine "that's been around forever" that you keep referring to?

I did a quick search, and did not see any info regarding a venerable (old and trusted) vaccine for MP...
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I misspoke. I meant to call it the smallpox vax that is being used as the MP vax.

See my post above^^^^^
 
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Walkin' Away

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I agree with the hesitancy. Also, TPTB rushing to vaccinate their way out of another pandemic has proven to not do anything but produce an immune-compromised population and a never ending merry-go-round of variants. This could prove to be a real catastrophe in giving live-virus vaccine to people who are immune-compromised already. We could end up with a real, true smallpox outbreak.

Please read the patient info sheets that were posted on the twitter post. Live virus (attenuated) is used in the older smallpox vax (ACAM) If that doesn’t make you nervous…I think it should. If I am incorrect in my thinking, someone please correct me.

Another piece information about the Jynneos vax is that 2 shots are required spaced about 28 days apart.
Also, one is not considered fully protected until the 2nd dose is given or 2 weeks thereafter. Again, I see potentially bad things happening with this course of action. I will continue to research and see what I can find and will share with The Class my findings. :apc:

I also do not trust anything that is presented by any guv agency NOR any pharmaceutical company. They have proven to not be deserving of my trust. The premise of profit over safety has left a very bad taste in the mouths of many of us skeptics. Some of these people are nothing but evil incarnate.

This country of ours is NOT the country of our parents and grandparents when it seemed the guv and it’s public health/agencies actually cared about it’s citizenry.

So, NO…I do not trust anything that “they” are scaring us into accepting.

Stay Safe and Well everyone.

W. A.
 
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SouthernBreeze

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Walkin' Away said:
I agree with the hesitancy. Also, TPTB rushing to vaccinate their way out of another pandemic has proven to not do anything but produce an immune-compromised population and a never ending merry-go-round of variants. This could prove to be a real catastrophe in giving live-virus vaccine to people who are immune-compromised already. We could end up with a real, true smallpox outbreak.

Please read the patient info sheets that we posted on the twitter post. Live virus (attenuated) is used. If that doesn’t make you nervous…I think it should. If I am incorrect in my thinking, someone please correct me.

I also do not trust anything that is presented by any guv agency NOR any pharmaceutical company. They have proven to not be deserving of my trust. The premise of profit over safety has left a very bad taste in the mouths of many of us skeptics. Some of these people are nothing but evil incarnate.

This country of ours is NOT the country of our parents and grandparents when it seemed the guv and it’s public health/agencies actually cared about it’s citizenry.

So, NO…I do not trust anything that “they” are scaring us into accepting.

Stay Safe and Well everyone.

W. A.
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This is a quote about the two different vaccines posted early in the thread.

Heliobas Disciple said:
There are two vaccines licensed by the Food and Drug Administration for preventing monkeypox infection: JYNNEOS and ACAM2000. The former vaccine is a “very safe” vaccine that contains a virus that cannot replicate effectively inside our bodies. The latter, however, has a virus that is replication competent.
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I have no idea if either one is safe at this point. That's why I was asking about it, earlier.
 
StarryEyedLad

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SouthernBreeze said:
Thanks. I think you just answered my question. The JYNNEOS vaccine is the one that I'm thinking has been around for a while. Several years, maybe, and has been tested repeatedly as being safe. Wasn't it developed just in case there was another smallpox outbreak, since the old childhood vax has been done away with?
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ACAM2000 is older than Jynneos.

This is from Wikipedia (yes, I know generally an unreliable source):

MVA-BN (also known as: Imvanex in the European Union; Imvamune in Canada; and Jynneos[32][33] is a vaccine manufactured by Bavarian Nordic by growing MVA in cell culture. Unlike replicating vaccines, MVA-BN is administered by injection via the subcutaneous route and does not result in a vaccine "take."[34] It is safer for immunocompromised patients and those who are at risk from a vaccinia infection. MVA-BN has been approved in the European Union,[7] Canada,[35][36][37] and the United States.[38][39] Clinical trials have found that MVA-BN is safer and just as immunogenic as ACAM2000.[40][41][42]
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Smallpox vaccine - Wikipedia

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So, they say both have been tested a lot.

Personally, I am wary of all vaccines now...but that's me. Everybody has to make that decision for themselves.
 
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rondaben

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Interesting history...If you go back to Jenner he used cowpox for vaccination against smallpox. Smallpox is a variola virus; cowpox, horsepox--those are vaccina viruses. Cousins if you will. The vaccina vaccine was given as it created an immune response that cross reacted with smallpox, without the risk of spreading smallpox in immunocompromised with a live, attenuated virus.

The vaccine can't cause smallpox. Its not smallpox virus. Jynneos is a vaccina vaccine. Probably will see some resurgence in these types of viruses as immunity from the smallpox (vaccina) vaccine is not permanent but typically wanes after 5 years or so and, well, there are a generation who have never been vaccinated and very few that have gotten a smallpox vaccine in the last 5 years.
 
psychgirl

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This is happening




https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554148491953307652
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554148491953307652?cxt=HHwWiICw8bb0uJErAAAA

Yet, also this;
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554149330713563137
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554149330713563137?cxt=HHwWgsC-kaCluZErAAAA



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554153772150099969
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554153772150099969?cxt=HHwWgsC4teOnu5ErAAAA

WTH?! Do they WANT this to spread??!
 
psychgirl

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Dr Eric FD is “slightly hair on fire alarmist” type, but he’s got some great information!

His sources are very good, backed up by documentation. He was at the forefront of Covid too, whatever that’s worth.
I guess we’ll find out soon enough if his hair was truly on fire for a reason
 
phloydius

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In regards to the death in Kerala, India.
I was able to do some research and what I found raised my Oh-Crap-Meter.
All information is from India's main stream news sites:

  • A 22 yr old male started showing symptoms in the UAE, and tested positive for Monkeypox either on: May 24, May 29, Jun 1, or Jun 7.*
  • Decided to go home. Flew to India (July 21).
  • Friend drove him home from the airport (July 22).
  • Stayed with family members at home for over 5 days.
  • On July 27th, symptoms started to worsen and was admitted to the hospital in Thrissur where his condition rapidly deteriorated.
  • On July 30th he died of Encephalitis.
  • On July 31st his over 20 known close contacts were instructed to self isolate at home.

*The UAE only has a few days where anyone has tested positive, and had no recorded positive cases between June 8th and July 24th. The dates he tested positive are extrapolated by me from this data, not stated by the media.
 
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drafter

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psychgirl said:
This is happening




https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554148491953307652
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554148491953307652?cxt=HHwWiICw8bb0uJErAAAA

Yet, also this;
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554149330713563137
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554149330713563137?cxt=HHwWgsC-kaCluZErAAAA



https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554153772150099969
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1554153772150099969?cxt=HHwWgsC4teOnu5ErAAAA

WTH?! Do they WANT this to spread??!
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Actually, yes. Right now, like aids was, it’s mostly being spread amongst gueers. They need it to infect the general populace so that they can “normalize” it. It’s not PC to tell the queers to stay home and stop screwing everything that moves.
 
phloydius

phloydius

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drafter said:
Actually, yes. Right now, like aids was, it’s mostly being spread amongst gueers. They need it to infect the general populace so that they can “normalize” it. It’s not PC to tell the queers to stay home and stop screwing everything that moves.
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You do understand that Monkeypox is spread by: Breathing, hand shakes, hugs, kissing, door knobs, cash, clothing, gas pump handles, food, ATM's, and so much more? If you are unsure, read back through a few of these pages on this thread, it is documented many times.
 
SouthernBreeze

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psychgirl said:
I do think your wrong.
I’m not “taking sides for gays” either

I’ve read TONS of information and can’t exactly recall… just where I saw a death not HIV
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I remember seeing a post here where a cancer patient died from MP. IIRC, it was also said that "he" had an immune supressed system. It could have been from chemotherapy, though.
 
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psychgirl

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But they’re not giving out those
statistics very openly because of hippa laws.
Wasn’t that 88 year old a monkeypox death?
 
bw

bw

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psychgirl said:
It sounds as though infection is spreading among health care workers now?
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Yes, there was a post a few days back that said very high numbers of health workers were infected. Don't have it handy. That's when we were discussing the possible collapse of health care.

ETA: As I recall, it was the count of infections at a particular hospital, not the general population. About 10% of the infections were health workers. In other words, working at a hospital is going to be chancy with this one.
 
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Walkin' Away

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Remember, Many healthcare personnel were required by their employers to take the vax as a condition of employment. How very convenient….compromised immune systems can happen to anyone…even MD’s,
Nurses, PCA’s, and any other “essential workers” who were required to take the vax.

A collapse of the medical system anyone?

W. A.
 
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