Misc Military Would Revolt Against Trump, Former CIA Director Says

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...revolt-against-trump-former-cia-director-says

Earlier today, we noted that America’s presumed candidate for the GOP nomination is busy retweeting Mussolini quotes.

That’s not necessarily a reflection of an explicit desire to move America towards fascism.

It’s not entirely clear that Donald Trump understands the movement he’s started. But America's entrenched political establishment is now scrambling to understand how to deal with the Trump juggernaut and it's not just politicians who are concerned.

Indeed, former intelligence officials now say the brazen billionaire could face a veritable security rebellion if he's elected.

“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,” Former CIA director Michael Hayden said, in an interview with Bill Maher. Hayden also says that the armed forces would simply refuse to follow Trump's orders were he to be elected and follow through on his campaign promises.

Here's what Hayden had to say about Trump's promise to kill family members of ISIS: "God, no! Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act. You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order. That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. There would be a coup in this country."

Would Trump face a military coup or would Trump simply commandeer the military? You decide. Here's the clip:
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Bullshit. If the military didn't revolt against the faggot muzloid ******-in-chief, there is no way they'll do it against Trump.

Maybe you should put on some knee pads and get down and punk for your pet politiwhore....
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have read lately. Fairbanks, thank you for the much needed laugh today.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Bullshit. If the military didn't revolt against the faggot muzloid ******-in-chief, there is no way they'll do it against Trump.

Maybe you should put on some knee pads and get down and punk for your pet politiwhore....

I think it's actually the other way around.... The mil is overwhelming support Trump, maybe even in troubled times....
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...revolt-against-trump-former-cia-director-says

Earlier today, we noted that America’s presumed candidate for the GOP nomination is busy retweeting Mussolini quotes.

That’s not necessarily a reflection of an explicit desire to move America towards fascism.

It’s not entirely clear that Donald Trump understands the movement he’s started. But America's entrenched political establishment is now scrambling to understand how to deal with the Trump juggernaut and it's not just politicians who are concerned.

Indeed, former intelligence officials now say the brazen billionaire could face a veritable security rebellion if he's elected.

“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,” Former CIA director Michael Hayden said, in an interview with Bill Maher. Hayden also says that the armed forces would simply refuse to follow Trump's orders were he to be elected and follow through on his campaign promises.

Here's what Hayden had to say about Trump's promise to kill family members of ISIS: "God, no! Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act. You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order. That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. There would be a coup in this country."

Would Trump face a military coup or would Trump simply commandeer the military? You decide. Here's the clip:

Thank God that the USA Military, enlisted as well as officer, upholds a fine tradition of following the civilian leadership elected by the public.

We are not a banana republic for that crap.

"Seven Days in May" is a great movie showing this key cornerstone of our republic.

Trump 2016 :usfl:
 
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fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Did any of you listen to the video? Maher through out that Trump had said we would kill terrorists families. Anybody old enough to remember Lt. Calley and Viet Nam. Soldiers who folloed that unlawful order would be subject to prosecution. Same as CIA who would resort to torture.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
Here's what Hayden had to say about Trump's promise to kill family members of ISIS: "God, no! Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act. You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order. That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. There would be a coup in this country."

Is this the same US military that droned a 16 year old US citizen in Yemen? In a separate attack from the one that killed his father? The one that propelled Rand Paul to the Senate floor in a filibuster against those very actions? Where was Hayden then?
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Did any of you listen to the video? Maher through out that Trump had said we would kill terrorists families. Anybody old enough to remember Lt. Calley and Viet Nam. Soldiers who folloed that unlawful order would be subject to prosecution. Same as CIA who would resort to torture.

That is your example? Only Calley did any time which mainly consisted of house arrest, and the orders could only be tracked unofficially to the general staff officers of the Division he was assigned too.

The military forces of the USA are not a banana republic militia. They are trained from the time they join that the highest commander they have is the President. No mutiny crap in this country.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Hey Kiddies,
Obama murdered a US citizen in a drone strike in a foreign country.
And the next week, he murdered his US Citizen son.
and nobody did jack shit.
I do not want to beat up Fairbanks about it because it appears that someone important actually had the words erupt from their pie hole.

But there was the thread on "It feels like all hell is about to break loose"
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...S-TO-ME-THAT-ALL-HELL-IS-ABOUT-TO-BREAK-LOOSE
And I was thinking "there is some really, really strange "communicating going on".
Somebody is out there saying they gonna resurrect Romney.
And now someone who should have some importance attached to their name just comes right out and say something ridiculous.

Yea, I gonna have to just agree with Dennis - It feels like something gonna break loose.
 
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fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
That is your example? Only Calley did any time which mainly consisted of house arrest, and the orders could only be tracked unofficially to the general staff officers of the Division he was assigned too.

The military forces of the USA are not a banana republic militia. They are trained from the time they join that the highest commander they have is the President. No mutiny crap in this country.

Really. We came damn close during Carter's Presidency. I know, I was serving at the time. Don't tell me it can't happen. Hell, folks on this very board have been posting about a military coup against Obama.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Really. We came damn close during Carter's Presidency. I know, I was serving at the time. Don't tell me it can't happen. Hell, folks on this very board have been posting about a military coup against Obama.

And THAT is a major load of BULLSH*T!!! I was in the USAF from the end of Ford's term to Reagan's second term.

Carter was a clown, but there was NEVER any bull crap MUTINY mutterings except in the imaginations of a very limited number of people.

Just because you got people posting on any website about this type of BS, does not in any way mean it was ever considered by more than a few couch sitters.

The USA military is not a banana republic where staff officers are adored so much by huge numbers of enlisted personal that they would even consider such a moronic act.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Fairbanks, if you have your tinfoil on this tight this early in the race, you're going to stroke-out by election day. Loosen the g*ddamn tinfoil, lay off the caffeine, and calm down.


Christ.....
 

bad_karma00

Underachiever
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...revolt-against-trump-former-cia-director-says

Earlier today, we noted that America’s presumed candidate for the GOP nomination is busy retweeting Mussolini quotes.

That’s not necessarily a reflection of an explicit desire to move America towards fascism.

It’s not entirely clear that Donald Trump understands the movement he’s started. But America's entrenched political establishment is now scrambling to understand how to deal with the Trump juggernaut and it's not just politicians who are concerned.

Indeed, former intelligence officials now say the brazen billionaire could face a veritable security rebellion if he's elected.

“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign,” Former CIA director Michael Hayden said, in an interview with Bill Maher. Hayden also says that the armed forces would simply refuse to follow Trump's orders were he to be elected and follow through on his campaign promises.

Here's what Hayden had to say about Trump's promise to kill family members of ISIS: "God, no! Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act. You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order. That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict. There would be a coup in this country."

Would Trump face a military coup or would Trump simply commandeer the military? You decide. Here's the clip:

This. Is. Bull. Shit.



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cjoi

Veteran Member
They must be hiding the mutineers on a different AFB than we use, then, because there was strong Trump support there this week. Even though the there are other comments that loose lips might make...we definitely need a CIC rather that a Friend of Mohammed's in charge...
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
They're getting desperate to torpedo Trump at any cost. With Snowden's revelations among many things that we've learned over the years have the ex NSA/CIA chief come out against Trump is another reason to vote for him. Maybe Trump would do something to dismantle the so called 'security' state. I'd rather have liberty over security myself.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They're getting desperate to torpedo Trump at any cost. With Snowden's revelations among many things that we've learned over the years have the ex NSA/CIA chief come out against Trump is another reason to vote for him. Maybe Trump would do something to dismantle the so called 'security' state. I'd rather have liberty over security myself.

That's what I was thinking. This isn't exactly an impeccable source. It's more like some guy that's either afraid he will lose his job or afraid he will be spending time behind bars!
 
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