Maybe like in aviation, where English is international language?
Blessd Be,
OldArcher, GNIW
BRKG Massive Explosion in Beirut
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Maybe like in aviation, where English is international language?
Blessd Be,
OldArcher, GNIW
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Anything that even passes into the EU has to be in several languages including English, and while former Soviet Georgia isn't in the EU, there are States close by that probably do use some of these products sometimes.
Also, as OA says, it is the major international language these days.
Also, as OA says, it is the major international language these days.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Nah. Standard grain silo concrete. The sheer MASS of the grain protected the back 2 rows of silos while the front two were destroyed.
There was a LOT of mass in the front silos.
It was easier to break the front walls of concrete than to move the loose granular mass of grain. The concrete once it STARTED to fracture, the fracture perpetuates itself. Then the mass of grain soaks up a LOT of force moving it. It's sort of how a dead blow hammer works.
You have a hammer with sand inside it (or metal grains) and when you hit with it, it does not bounce because of the screwy way the grains inside handle the impact force. A solid item bounces, A sand-filled canister does not.
Kayak
Adrenaline Junkie
Lebanon sees possible 'external interference' in port blast
Lebanon's president said on Friday its investigation into the biggest blast in Beirut's history would examine whether it was caused by a bomb or other external interference, as residents sought to rebuild shattered homes and lives.
www.reuters.com
The search for those missing has intensified, as rescuers sifted rubble in a race to find anyone still alive after Tuesday’s blast that killed 154, smashed up a swathe of the city and sent seismic shockwaves around the region.
“The cause has not been determined yet. There is a possibility of external interference through a rocket or bomb or other act,” President Michel Aoun said in comments carried by local media and confirmed by his office.
‘External interference through rocket, bomb or other act’ possible cause of Beirut blast – Lebanon’s president
Lebanon’s president has not ruled out the possibility that a series of powerful explosions in the Port of Beirut were caused by a rocket or bomb. The authorities previously stated that the ammonium nitrate stash had detonated.
“The cause has not been determined yet. There is a possibility of external interference through a rocket or bomb or other act," Aoun said, as cited by local media.
Aoun said that the probe into the blast will check whether it was caused by “negligence or an accident,” or some type of external force.
The president promised that everyone responsible for the explosions will be held accountable.
On Tuesday, two massive explosions rocked Beirut, killing at least 135 people. The powerful shockwave caused war-like devastation across several city blocks around the port area, displacing over 300,000 residents.
Speculation immediately arose online that Lebanon’s neighbor Israel or militant group Hezbollah could have been behind the blasts. However, both Tel Aviv and Hezbollah quickly denied any involvement.
Initial reports suggested that the explosions were triggered by a blaze at a fireworks depot. Lebanon’s Prime Minister Hassan Diab later confirmed that around 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a highly explosive substance used in fertilizer and bombs, had detonated at the port’s warehouse. The hazardous chemicals were confiscated from the Moldovan-flagged Russian-owned cargo ship MV Rhosus in 2014.
www.rt.com
Lebanon’s president has not ruled out the possibility that a series of powerful explosions in the Port of Beirut were caused by a rocket or bomb. The authorities previously stated that the ammonium nitrate stash had detonated.
“The cause has not been determined yet. There is a possibility of external interference through a rocket or bomb or other act," Aoun said, as cited by local media.
Aoun said that the probe into the blast will check whether it was caused by “negligence or an accident,” or some type of external force.
The president promised that everyone responsible for the explosions will be held accountable.
On Tuesday, two massive explosions rocked Beirut, killing at least 135 people. The powerful shockwave caused war-like devastation across several city blocks around the port area, displacing over 300,000 residents.
Speculation immediately arose online that Lebanon’s neighbor Israel or militant group Hezbollah could have been behind the blasts. However, both Tel Aviv and Hezbollah quickly denied any involvement.
Initial reports suggested that the explosions were triggered by a blaze at a fireworks depot. Lebanon’s Prime Minister Hassan Diab later confirmed that around 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a highly explosive substance used in fertilizer and bombs, had detonated at the port’s warehouse. The hazardous chemicals were confiscated from the Moldovan-flagged Russian-owned cargo ship MV Rhosus in 2014.
‘External interference through rocket, bomb or other act’ possible cause of Beirut blast – Lebanon’s president
Lebanon’s president has not ruled out the possibility that a series of powerful explosions in the Port of Beirut were caused by a rocket or bomb. The authorities previously stated that the ammonium nitrate stash had detonated.
Did anyone see the picture (Aurora) of the AN warehouse at the side door with workers and what appeared to be stacks of large commercial grade looking fireworks laid out near the bags of AN. If they wired them in series and set them up among the piles of bags it could explain why the videos of the first few moments before the main blast there appeared to be small explosions seen through the warehouse windows that intensified until criticality. As to why anyone in their right mind would do that is up for speculation.
adgal
Veteran Member
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Someone earlier on the thread said that if there were Hezbollah rockets and munitions exploding, it could sound like jets.
‘External interference through rocket, bomb or other act’ possible cause of Beirut blast – Lebanon’s president
Lebanon’s president has not ruled out the possibility that a series of powerful explosions in the Port of Beirut were caused by a rocket or bomb. The authorities previously stated that the ammonium nitrate stash had detonated.
“The cause has not been determined yet. There is a possibility of external interference through a rocket or bomb or other act," Aoun said, as cited by local media.
Aoun said that the probe into the blast will check whether it was caused by “negligence or an accident,” or some type of external force.
The president promised that everyone responsible for the explosions will be held accountable.
On Tuesday, two massive explosions rocked Beirut, killing at least 135 people. The powerful shockwave caused war-like devastation across several city blocks around the port area, displacing over 300,000 residents.
Speculation immediately arose online that Lebanon’s neighbor Israel or militant group Hezbollah could have been behind the blasts. However, both Tel Aviv and Hezbollah quickly denied any involvement.
Initial reports suggested that the explosions were triggered by a blaze at a fireworks depot. Lebanon’s Prime Minister Hassan Diab later confirmed that around 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a highly explosive substance used in fertilizer and bombs, had detonated at the port’s warehouse. The hazardous chemicals were confiscated from the Moldovan-flagged Russian-owned cargo ship MV Rhosus in 2014.
‘External interference through rocket, bomb or other act’ possible cause of Beirut blast – Lebanon’s president
Lebanon’s president has not ruled out the possibility that a series of powerful explosions in the Port of Beirut were caused by a rocket or bomb. The authorities previously stated that the ammonium nitrate stash had detonated.
What do YOU think, Millwright? This old inquiring mind wants to know!
Bright Blessings,
OA, GNIW
bw
Fringe Ranger
The problem is there were absolutely no indications of flying ordnance. There were some sparkly bits in the fire before the big explosion, but when an ammo dump is burning there are normally rockets visibly flying out and rounds cooking off. When a major explosion goes off, whole artillery rounds will go for hundreds of yards at least. Rockets would be shooting off in all directions. There is none of that in any video either during the initial fire or after the big blast.
bw
Fringe Ranger
For comparison, here's an ammo dump explosion. :39
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]View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJvcVM6jvE[/video]
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What do YOU think, Millwright? This old inquiring mind wants to know!
Bright Blessings,
OA, GNIW
Dunno
He may be leaving an opening to blame Israel or whoever, regardless of the actual cause.
As to the original explosion?
Hellifino.
Go with the simplest explanation until good evidence is presented to the contrary.
Industrial hygiene and common safety practices are not a big priority there.
Neither is security.
The only video evidence I'd believe would be from the first few pages of this thread...if they were downloaded and not exposed to alteration.
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
Fast Facts: What is Seaspeak?
Seaspeak is the official language of navigators the world over.Whether on the high seas or at po...
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Seaspeak is the official language of navigators the world over.
Whether on the high seas or at port, misunderstood communication can lead to serious and even dangerous situations. Seaspeak, the official language of the seas, helps to prevent miscommunication.
Have you ever wondered how crews on ships at sea communicate? Nowadays, crews consist of men and women from all over the world, and often, a single ship's crew comes from a number of different countries. But that was not always the case. Back in the 1960s, the United States and the United Kingdom dominated ocean traffic, and 80 percent of ships' crews were native English speakers. By the end of 1970s, however, the situation had reversed, and today, 80 percent of ship's crews do not speak English as a first language.
So what happens when a ship captain needs to communicate to their crew, to another ship, or to shore? Whether on the high seas or at port, misunderstood communication can lead to serious and even dangerous situations.
To avoid such confusion, in 1983 a group of linguists and shipping experts created a new system of communication called Seaspeak. English was chosen as the principle lexicon for Seaspeak because it was the most common language spoken on ships at that time, and, importantly, it was also the language of civil aviation. In 1988, the International Maritime Organization made Seaspeak the official language of the seas.
Seaspeak defines the rules of how to talk on a ship's radio. The number of words is limited to ensure that messages and conversations are short and clear. Eight words, called message markers, precede each sentence. These words are Advice, Answer, Information, Instruction, Intention, Question, Request, and Warning.
An important rule of Seaspeak is that numbers made up of two or more digits are spoken in single digits. For example, the number 33 is spoken as "three three" and the time 9:33 a.m. is spoken as "zero nine three three." Coordinated Universal Time - the primary time standard or international time scale by which the world regulates clocks and time - is always used at sea.
Article and image courtesy of NOAA's National Ocean Service.
Michiana MaJo
Deceased
Thierry Meysan: Israel Nukes Beirut (Tactical) UPDATE 3 - Public Intelligence Blog
Israel destroys East Beirut with a new weapon It is not known what weapon was used. However, it has already been tested in Syria since January 2020. It is a missile with a tactical nuclear component in its warhead that causes a smoke mushroom characteristic of nuclear weapons. Read full...
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Thierry Meysan: Israel Nukes Beirut (Tactical)
Israel destroys East Beirut with a new weapon
by Thierry Meyssan
The first Israeli Prime Minister has ordered the destruction of a Hizbollah weapons warehouse in Beirut with a new weapon. The weapon, which is not well known, caused considerable damage in the city, killing more than 100 people, injuring 5,000 and destroying many buildings. This time it will be difficult for Benjamin Netanyahu to deny it.
Voltaire Network | Damascus (Syria) | 7 August 2020
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The first Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, authorized a strike against a Hezbollah arms depot using a new weapon that has been tested for seven months in Syria. It is not known whether the second Prime Minister, Benny Gantz, gave his consent.
The strike was carried out on August 4, 2020, at the exact location designated by Benjamin Netanyahu in his speech to the United Nations on September 27, 2018 [1].
It is not known what weapon was used. However, it has already been tested in Syria since January 2020. It is a missile with a tactical nuclear component in its warhead that causes a smoke mushroom characteristic of nuclear weapons. It is obviously not an atomic bomb in the strategic sense.
The weapon was tested in Syria on a plain in the countryside and then in the Persian Gulf on the water against Iranian military vessels. This is the first time it has been used in an urban environment, in a particular environment that made the air blast and vibrations reflect off the water and the mountains. Far from destroying only the port of Beirut, it killed about a hundred people, injured at least 5,000 others, and largely destroyed the eastern part of the city (the western part was largely protected by the grain silo).
Israel immediately activated its networks in the international media to cover up its crime and lend credence to the idea of the accidental explosion of a fertilizer stockpile. As is often the case, false culprits are named, and the international media machine repeats this lie over and over again in the absence of any investigation. Yet there was indeed a smokestack incompatible with the thesis of a fertilizer explosion.
Just as neither Syria nor Iran had communicated about this weapon when they were hit, the Lebanese political parties immediately reached an agreement not to say anything in order not to demoralize their population. An investigation was opened, not into the cause of the explosion, but into the responsibility of the port’s personnel for the storage of the fertilizer allegedly responsible for the explosion. However, this lie soon turned against the political parties that had imagined it.
The United Nations Tribunal for Lebanon, which was due to make public its verdict in the case of the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri in 2005, decided to postpone it for a few days. Identically in that case, the explosion of a pickup truck masked the firing of a missile with a new weapon, just as this time the explosion of nitrate masked the firing of a missile with another new weapon.
Five years later, five years too late, I revealed in a Russian magazine the manner in which Rafik Hariri had been killed [2], while Hezbollah published a video attesting to Israel’s involvement.
It is important to note that the 2005 assassination targeted a former Sunni Prime Minister and that the 2020 attack targeted not Shiite Hezbollah, but the Lebanese Resistance as a whole.
This time, several embassies carried out surveys, including taking grain samples and air filters from ambulances that immediately went to the scene. They are already being examined in their respective countries.
Thierry Meyssan
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Sicario
The Executor
If this has been posted already, just skip it. The video is posted for educational purposes and illustrates the importance of NOT standing near glass doors or windows if an explosion has happened or is imminent!
This is a HORRIFYING video. DO NOT PRESS PLAY IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE GRAPHIC EVENTS!
View: https://twitter.com/GilBitan/status/1291717794246070273
It appears that no information on their fate is available.
This is a HORRIFYING video. DO NOT PRESS PLAY IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE GRAPHIC EVENTS!
View: https://twitter.com/GilBitan/status/1291717794246070273
It appears that no information on their fate is available.
Sicario
The Executor
Thanks, MK. It is nearly impossible to keep up with the news flood anymore. Thanks for your diligence in posting.
danielboon
TB Fanatic
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Lebanese pro-Hezbollah president Aoun rejects calls for international investigation of Beirut blast.
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Lebanese pro-Hezbollah president Aoun rejects calls for international investigation of Beirut blast.
LYKURGOS
No Surrender, No Defeat!
Awesome explanation! I love my dead blow hammers. Snap-On has the head full of tiny lead shot. Don't ask me how I know
bw
Fringe Ranger
Inconveniently, it's not a smoke mushroom but a condensation cloud. That's why it vanishes as the shockwave passes.
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
That is freaking cool Millwright.
bw
Fringe Ranger
I've had people say in all seriousness that it was incredible photography to capture the plane at the exact moment it went through the sound barrier.
they banned it - breaking the sound barrier - cleaning up all this tensy tiny broken bits of sound was too labor intensiveI've had people say in all seriousness that it was incredible photography to capture the plane at the exact moment it went through the sound barrier.
and the fine grains get stuck in every crack and crevice - worse than the beach.
Debunking the myriad quack theories out there.
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The Beirut Explosion - Is It A Bird? Is It A Plane? Is It A Faked Video Of A Missile?
August 7, 2020
In the days after every catastrophe, it is inevitable that rumours and misinformation will be passed around on social networks and by word of mouth. This appears to be a universal human behaviour. The disaster in Beirut is no different. In the three days since the blast we have seen multiple examples of misleading or fake information and videos which seek to mislead people into believing false narratives. In these post we will examine some of them.
We will also examine a more interesting piece of information which was reported by multiple people on the ground, namely that a sound similar to a jet was heard for a few seconds during this catastrophe.
“It was a nuclear explosion”
One of the earliest claims about this explosion is that it was a nuclear detonation. This was spread by a variety of sources, including an organisation called “Veterans Today“, which despite appearing legitimate at first glance, is a known conspiracy network.
However, these claims are easily identifiable as false. Multiple nuclear experts pointed out that explosion had none of the distinctive features of a nuclear explosion, such as a blinding flash of light and a thermal pulse. In short, nothing about the explosion in Beirut indicates it was a nuclear explosion.
That’s not a missile: it’s a cartoon
Several videos have appeared online which claim to show that the warehouse was hit by a missile. None of them actually show this: all of them are either deliberate fakes or simply birds flying across the camera.
In the most blatant example of this below, someone has edited a cartoon missile into a genuine video of the explosion.
If viewed as it is, especially on a mobile phone screen, it is possible to give this video credence. However, if the video is watched frame by frame the reality becomes clear. The “missile” is a superimposed cartoon projectile which is present for two frames before inexplicably disappearing.
A comparison shows us that this is the same “missile” as shown on the introductory image of the video. As you might have guessed by this point, this is not a real munition.
A second, very similar, example can be seen below. This video uses two pieces of genuine footage, but once again fake missiles have been added. Both segments of footage have had a filter applied to make them appear as if they are “thermal” cameras, which also makes it slightly more difficult to identify the fake missiles.
In the videos below, both pieces of footage are compared to their originals. Note that in both originals there are clearly no missiles.
Second segment of footage.
Once again, frames from both of these segments reveal fake missiles have been crudely superimposed over genuine videos.
That’s not a missile: it’s a bird
We have also observed videos being spread that claim to show a missile which, rather than being faked, have simply been misinterpreted. In the two cases of this we’ve identified, both objects claimed to be “missiles” are actually, on closer inspection, birds.
The video below is the most popular example of this theme. It has been passed around various groups, sometimes with a hand-drawn circle around the object, claiming that it shows a missile strike. By lining up the minarets of the Mohammad AlAmin Mosque and other landmarks with the blast cloud, we can establish it was filmed from the vicinity of 33.890420, 35.498061, a little of over two kilometers away from the blast.
Once the video is slowed, it becomes clear that the object some have interpreted as a missile appears to be flapping, and is in fact shaped like a bird. Additionally there are multiple other videos filmed from similar angles which show that no missile impacted at this time from this direction.
This video is very similar. As with the video above, once it has been slowed and examined it becomes clear the “missile” is in fact a bird.
The sound of jets
Some people reported hearing a noise similar to a low flying jet a few seconds before one of the smaller, interim explosions. The video below has been cited as evidence of this, with a roar starting at 01:14 which does sound similar to a jet engine. One of the people filming comments on this, asking “what is that sound!?”.
However, no jets have been visible in any footage related to this event, which is available from a wide variety of different angles and distances. Additionally, none of them show any kind of projectile hitting the warehouse. So, what might have caused this noise?
The Twitter account AuroraIntel identified that the fire in the warehouse increased in intensity for a few seconds before this interim explosion took place. They took a video which we previously identified was filmed about 40 meters away from the warehouse and synced it with the video above.
As we can see, the intensity of the fire changes dramatically in the few seconds before this interim explosion, including an increase in what seems to be small explosions. At the time of this event some commented that this sounded like fireworks or ammunition cooking off. This crackling sound and the small explosions increase in intensity to become a roar for a few seconds before the interim explosion. Others have also noted a phenomenon in which intense fires are frequently reported to sound like jet engines as they draw in air from their surroundings.
Whether it was these smaller explosions, the roar of air, or a combination of both, it seems a strong possibility that this phenomenon was the source of the reported sounds of a jet over the city.
Conclusion
Although we often believe “a lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on”, in this case the truth had a head start. In major incidents like this, the very earliest videos are much less likely to have been edited, because editing takes a little bit of time and a little bit of planning. Within a few minutes after the explosion, we had scores of videos showing the explosion from a multitude of angles, none of which showed any munition impacting the warehouse.
Therefore, any video which appears later that claims to show a missile should be scrutinised with caution. In this case it is clear that a person or persons has created several fake videos of this incident in an attempt to manipulate and deceive those who view them.
The question of the reported sounds of jets is more interesting. In this case multiple people reported hearing a similar sound, yet there doesn’t appear to be any other verified open source information which supports the presence of low flying jet aircraft. The nature and evolution of the fire at the warehouse appears to provide a likely explanation for this, increasing in intensity to create a roaring noise shortly before an interim explosion.
Questions do remain about this disaster: what started the initial fire? Was there some other material stored in Warehouse 12 that was ignited before spreading to the ammonium nitrate? Who is responsible for the ammonium nitrate remaining at the port for so long? However, when answering these questions, care must be taken, because it is clear that some actors are already attempting to inject false information into the public discourse.
Nick Waters
Nick is an ex-British Army officer and open source analyst. He has a special interest in the conflicts in Syria, as well as social media, civil society, intelligence and security. Contact via Twitter: @N_Waters89
www.bellingcat.com
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The Beirut Explosion - Is It A Bird? Is It A Plane? Is It A Faked Video Of A Missile?
August 7, 2020
In the days after every catastrophe, it is inevitable that rumours and misinformation will be passed around on social networks and by word of mouth. This appears to be a universal human behaviour. The disaster in Beirut is no different. In the three days since the blast we have seen multiple examples of misleading or fake information and videos which seek to mislead people into believing false narratives. In these post we will examine some of them.
We will also examine a more interesting piece of information which was reported by multiple people on the ground, namely that a sound similar to a jet was heard for a few seconds during this catastrophe.
“It was a nuclear explosion”
One of the earliest claims about this explosion is that it was a nuclear detonation. This was spread by a variety of sources, including an organisation called “Veterans Today“, which despite appearing legitimate at first glance, is a known conspiracy network.
However, these claims are easily identifiable as false. Multiple nuclear experts pointed out that explosion had none of the distinctive features of a nuclear explosion, such as a blinding flash of light and a thermal pulse. In short, nothing about the explosion in Beirut indicates it was a nuclear explosion.
That’s not a missile: it’s a cartoon
Several videos have appeared online which claim to show that the warehouse was hit by a missile. None of them actually show this: all of them are either deliberate fakes or simply birds flying across the camera.
In the most blatant example of this below, someone has edited a cartoon missile into a genuine video of the explosion.
If viewed as it is, especially on a mobile phone screen, it is possible to give this video credence. However, if the video is watched frame by frame the reality becomes clear. The “missile” is a superimposed cartoon projectile which is present for two frames before inexplicably disappearing.
A comparison shows us that this is the same “missile” as shown on the introductory image of the video. As you might have guessed by this point, this is not a real munition.
A second, very similar, example can be seen below. This video uses two pieces of genuine footage, but once again fake missiles have been added. Both segments of footage have had a filter applied to make them appear as if they are “thermal” cameras, which also makes it slightly more difficult to identify the fake missiles.
In the videos below, both pieces of footage are compared to their originals. Note that in both originals there are clearly no missiles.
Second segment of footage.
Once again, frames from both of these segments reveal fake missiles have been crudely superimposed over genuine videos.
That’s not a missile: it’s a bird
We have also observed videos being spread that claim to show a missile which, rather than being faked, have simply been misinterpreted. In the two cases of this we’ve identified, both objects claimed to be “missiles” are actually, on closer inspection, birds.
The video below is the most popular example of this theme. It has been passed around various groups, sometimes with a hand-drawn circle around the object, claiming that it shows a missile strike. By lining up the minarets of the Mohammad AlAmin Mosque and other landmarks with the blast cloud, we can establish it was filmed from the vicinity of 33.890420, 35.498061, a little of over two kilometers away from the blast.
Once the video is slowed, it becomes clear that the object some have interpreted as a missile appears to be flapping, and is in fact shaped like a bird. Additionally there are multiple other videos filmed from similar angles which show that no missile impacted at this time from this direction.
This video is very similar. As with the video above, once it has been slowed and examined it becomes clear the “missile” is in fact a bird.
The sound of jets
Some people reported hearing a noise similar to a low flying jet a few seconds before one of the smaller, interim explosions. The video below has been cited as evidence of this, with a roar starting at 01:14 which does sound similar to a jet engine. One of the people filming comments on this, asking “what is that sound!?”.
However, no jets have been visible in any footage related to this event, which is available from a wide variety of different angles and distances. Additionally, none of them show any kind of projectile hitting the warehouse. So, what might have caused this noise?
The Twitter account AuroraIntel identified that the fire in the warehouse increased in intensity for a few seconds before this interim explosion took place. They took a video which we previously identified was filmed about 40 meters away from the warehouse and synced it with the video above.
As we can see, the intensity of the fire changes dramatically in the few seconds before this interim explosion, including an increase in what seems to be small explosions. At the time of this event some commented that this sounded like fireworks or ammunition cooking off. This crackling sound and the small explosions increase in intensity to become a roar for a few seconds before the interim explosion. Others have also noted a phenomenon in which intense fires are frequently reported to sound like jet engines as they draw in air from their surroundings.
Whether it was these smaller explosions, the roar of air, or a combination of both, it seems a strong possibility that this phenomenon was the source of the reported sounds of a jet over the city.
Conclusion
Although we often believe “a lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on”, in this case the truth had a head start. In major incidents like this, the very earliest videos are much less likely to have been edited, because editing takes a little bit of time and a little bit of planning. Within a few minutes after the explosion, we had scores of videos showing the explosion from a multitude of angles, none of which showed any munition impacting the warehouse.
Therefore, any video which appears later that claims to show a missile should be scrutinised with caution. In this case it is clear that a person or persons has created several fake videos of this incident in an attempt to manipulate and deceive those who view them.
The question of the reported sounds of jets is more interesting. In this case multiple people reported hearing a similar sound, yet there doesn’t appear to be any other verified open source information which supports the presence of low flying jet aircraft. The nature and evolution of the fire at the warehouse appears to provide a likely explanation for this, increasing in intensity to create a roaring noise shortly before an interim explosion.
Questions do remain about this disaster: what started the initial fire? Was there some other material stored in Warehouse 12 that was ignited before spreading to the ammonium nitrate? Who is responsible for the ammonium nitrate remaining at the port for so long? However, when answering these questions, care must be taken, because it is clear that some actors are already attempting to inject false information into the public discourse.
Nick Waters
Nick is an ex-British Army officer and open source analyst. He has a special interest in the conflicts in Syria, as well as social media, civil society, intelligence and security. Contact via Twitter: @N_Waters89
The Beirut Explosion - Is It A Bird? Is It A Plane? Is It A Faked Video Of A Missile? - bellingcat
In the days after every catastrophe, it is inevitable that rumours and misinformation will be passed around on social networks and by word of mouth. This appears to be a universal human behaviour. The disaster in Beirut is no different. In the three days since the blast we have seen multiple...
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samus79
Veteran Member
I don’t know if this was posted already, but here is an amazing HD video of the explosion.
Run time of the whole video is 9:38 but skip ahead to 7:30 to see the actual explosion
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp-n-ghagok&feature=emb_title
Run time of the whole video is 9:38 but skip ahead to 7:30 to see the actual explosion
bw
Fringe Ranger
Way back, someone asked how long it was burning before the explosion. Based on the lack of trailing smoke from the main smoke cloud, I guesstimated it had just started. That seems to have been an error induced by the perspective, with the trailing smoke blocked due to camera position. This video says it was burning for about an hour before the big blast. Mea culpa.
adgal
Veteran Member
This is the same footage that samus79 shared, but it is slowed down:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQ80Sj3QUs
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQ80Sj3QUs
samus79
Veteran Member
Wow, seeing it in slow motion like that reminds of the scene in Terminator 2 when the nuke goes off...
Run time-0:41
Mtsilverback
Veteran Member
Take note that after the sirens become quiet the smoke is a bit whiter in appearance. Then the explosions starts. If the fire crews had put water on the Ammonia Nitrate fire it will exploded very violently!
mzkitty
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Aw..... snips from Sahar's funeral:
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Here's the low down on that test.....For videos go to article source.....HC
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This Was The Largest Conventional Explosion America Ever Set Off
The deliberate detonation of nearly 4,750 tons of explosives was meant to simulate the effects of a small nuclear bomb.
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The deliberate detonation of nearly 4,750 tons of explosives was meant to simulate the effects of a small nuclear bomb.
By Joseph Trevithick
August 6, 2020
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The massive explosion at the Port of Beirut in Lebanon yesterday quickly drew comparisons to a nuclear bomb going off, especially due to the huge shockwave and mushroom cloud it produced, despite those being characteristics of any large detonation. In fact, the United States and others have used very large amounts of conventional explosives over the years to simulate the effects of a nuclear weapon without the complexities and environmental concerns associated with actually setting one off.
The largest of these – which was the biggest single deliberate conventional explosive detonation ever – was a test on June 27, 1985, called Minor Scale, that involved detonating 4,744 tons of ammonium nitrate/fuel oil (ANFO) explosive at the Permanent High Explosive Testing Grounds (PHETG), situated within the U.S. Army's White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. For comparison, Lebanese authorities say that around 2,750 tons of pelletized ammonium nitrate was a key contributor to the blast in Beirut, which, as Hans Kristensen, the Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists noted, is less than two thirds the basic weight of the explosive pile assembled for Minor Scale.
The Defense Nuclear Agency (DNA), which eventually morphed into the present-day Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), conducted Minor Scale to gather data on how a nuclear explosion might affect various pieces of military hardware, including the Hard Mobile Launchers for the then-in-development MGM-134A Midgetman intercontinental ballistic missile.
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The 4,744 tons of ANFO, placed inside a fiberglass dome and detonated at ground level, produced a blast equivalent to just over four kilotons of TNT. DNA's intent was to roughly simulate the effects of a nuclear warhead with an eight kiloton yield air-bursting over the target area.
The previous record-holder for largest planned single explosive detonation had been an event nicknamed the "British Bang" in Germany's Heligoland archipelago in the North Sea, which the U.K. government had gained control of following the end of World War II. Evacuated of its residents during the war and used primarily as a bombing range immediately after, the Royal Navy disposed of approximately 4,000 tons of surplus munitions by blowing them up on one of the islands on April 18, 1947. The force of the blast was roughly equal to 3.2 kilotons of TNT and created a large crater dubbed the Mittelland. The United Kingdom returned the islands to Germany in 1952.
The Minor Scale test was only one of a number of conventional explosions used to simulate nuclear weapons effects that the United States, as well as Canada and Australia, carried out starting the 1950s. These included the Sailor Hat tests that the U.S. Navy executed between November 1964 and June 1965.
The first of these was Sailor Hat Alpha, an underwater detonation in the Pacific Ocean near San Clemente Island off the coast of Southern California, which used a charge that produced the same blast effect as 20 tons of TNT. The remaining three tests all involved explosive piles, each one of which with an approximate yield of 500 tons of TNT, on land at Smuggler Cove on the Hawaiian island of Kahoʻolawe.
After the Minor Scale test, the Defense Nuclear Agency had said it did not intend to carry out any future detonations that would involve a larger explosive pile. "Future tests are not expected to get bigger than Minor Scale," a 1986 report on the test said. "There are no plans for a test called Major Scale."
However, this kind of testing did still continue after Minor Scale. Another particularly large Defense Nuclear Agency test, called Misty Picture, took place at the PHETG at White Sands on May 17, 1987. This involved the detonation of 4,685 tons of ANFO and produced a blast equivalent to just under 4 kilotons of TNT.
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The Misty Picture explosive test.
One of the last planned such explosive tests was one known as Divine Strake, which DTRA, the Defense Nuclear Agency's successor, planned to carry out in 2006. This was to involve setting off 700 tons of ANFO inside a tunnel at the Department of Energy's Nevada Test Site ostensibly to help in the development of deep-penetrating conventional weapons to defeat facilities involved in the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.
The agency insisted that the event was not related in any way to nuclear effects testing, despite the obvious potential value in the development of bunker-busting nuclear weapons, as highlighted in a number of press reports at the time. In 2007, DTRA formally canceled the test in the face of controversy over its intended purpose and concerns that it could launch radioactive dust, leftover from previous nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site, into the atmosphere.
"I have become convinced that it's time to look at alternative methods that obviate the need for this type of large-scale test," then-DTRA Director Dr. James Tegnelia said in a statement on Feb. 22, 2007. "This decision was not based on any technical information that indicates the test would produce harm to workers, the general public, or the environment," an accompanying DTRA press release said.
No matter what Divine Strake's actual intended purpose might have been, it, along with Minor Scale and these other tests, all remind us of the immense destructive power that conventional explosives can produce, as was on full display during the recent tragic events in Beirut.
Contact the author: joe@thedrive.com
jazzy
Advocate Discernment
i think this says alot. if they thought it was israel or that they could blame israel theyd be screaming all over the place. the president doesnt want an investigation, seems to me they know there was a screw up. im still trying to figure this out you guys are awesome, im just trying to keep up.
BeeMan
Just buzzin along
“Nothing to see here, move along!”
