BRKG Massive Explosion in Beirut

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Michiana MaJo

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If you will go to rense.com right at the top of the opening page is a short video of a bomb approaching, going down and then exploding the explosion site at Beirut....and the very possible, logical answer as to who could have done it.
 
Meadowlark

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I just saw an israeli news interview with an explosives expert. He said that AN can exploded in a huge way either by a very hot fire, taking at least an hour to develop, or by close proximity of other high explosives. Apparently the fire was active far less than an hour. That leaves open the presence of high explosive munitions. Could hezbola be involved with that?
 
Melodi

Melodi

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The family bedroom (I think extended family but I'm not sure) bedroom of the gentlemen that wrote the book: The Black Swan.






Nassim Nicholas Taleb

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My bedroom in Beirut (in the family place).
2:29 PM · Aug 6, 2020·Twi


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Capt. Eddie

Capt. Eddie

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Millwright said:
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The cruise ship was moored broadside to the blast, the freighters were moored more or less stern to, center of crater is about 2 points on their starboard quarter. Freighters' starboard side would have also been shielded by the dock at least at the water line. The cruise ship therefore had a much larger "sail area" for the shock wave to impact, as well as being hit athwart ship. Vessels generally have more reinforcement longitudinally (bow to stern) than perpendicular (side to side) since the longitudinal forces are much greater during normal operation.
 
SouthernBreeze

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From the above video, it sure looks like a missile to me. In all other videos that I've looked at, I didn't see anything that would confirm it one way or another.

Maybe, others will chime in with their thoughts based on this video.
 
Seeker22

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thorr said:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_SM5ZvuAkVI&time_continue=16&feature=emb_title

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It’s starting to be on multiple channels, from different angles. I “know” there are multiple people on here, way smarter than me. What ya think??
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I think Photoshop. Why? That explanation has to do with F stops and cell phone cameras. Are they able to pick up something moving as fast as a missile and keep it in focus on the frame? All this old Wolf knows is SLR. Maybe somebody who is more familiar will this will chime in.
 
ThorsHammer

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Cycling of Ammonium Nitrate: Ammonium nitrate, for its weight, supplies more gas upon detonation than any other explosive. In pure form, ammonium nitrate is almost inert (powerless) and is composed of 60 percent oxygen by weight, 33 percent nitrogen, and seven percent hydrogen. Two characteristics make this compound both unpredictable and dangerous. Ammonium nitrate is water-soluble and if uncoated, can attract water from the atmosphere and slowly dissolve itself. For this reason, most prills have a protective coating of wax or clay which acts as a moisture retardant. The second and most important characteristic is a phenomenon called “cycling.” This is the ability of a material to change its crystal form with temperature. Ammonium nitrate will have one of five crystal forms depending on the temperature.The cycling phenomenon can seriously affect both the storage and performance of any explosive whichcontains ammonium nitrate. Most dynamites, both regular nitroglycerin or permissibles, contain some percent-ages of ammonium nitrate, while blasting agents are almost totally comprised of this compound. The cycling effect in dynamite is not due to other ingredients mixed with the ammonium nitrate. For this reason, cycling doesnot greatly affect dynamite the way it does ANFO. The two temperatures at which cycling will occur under normal conditions are 0 and 90°F. This is to say that products which are stored over the winter, or for a period of time during the summer, most likely will undergo some amount of cycling. During the summer, in poorly ventilated powder magazines, the cycling temperature may be reached daily. The effect of cycling of ammonium nitrate when isolated from the humidity in the air is that the prills breakdown into finer and finer particles, or enlarge to the point at which they are virtually inert. When the temperature exceeds 90°F, the prills break down into smaller crystals. This causes the density to increase from 0.8 to 1.2 gm/cc. A density increase will also increase the detonation velocity of the compound. The detonation velocity of ammonium nitrate with a density near 0.8 is around 10,000 feet per second. Ammonium nitrate with a density near 1.2 may have a velocity of 15,000 feet per second.
 
SouthernBreeze

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Seeker22 said:
I think Photoshop. Why? That explanation has to do with F stops and cell phone cameras. Are they able to pick up something moving as fast as a missile and keep it in focus on the frame? All this old Wolf knows is SLR. Maybe somebody who is more familiar will this will chime in.
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At first, I thought it might be photoshopped, too. What about all the other photos and videos that supposedly show a missile as well? Photoshopped, too?

I'm seriously beginning to doubt anything I read or see about this whole thing. We'll probably never know the truth of what happened, but only speculation.

Maybe, I'll be surprised.
 
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The Snack Artist

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Melodi said:
The family bedroom (I think extended family but I'm not sure) bedroom of the gentlemen that wrote the book: The Black Swan.


Nassim Nicholas Taleb
@nntaleb

My bedroom in Beirut (in the family place).
2:29 PM · Aug 6, 2020·Twi


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I knew this guy years back. He was a trader in my pit. A complete pain in the ass. We would laugh at his expense when he would appear on the TV because we all knew how full of sh*t he is. Yes, he's the author you speak of.
 
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Telescope Steve

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thorr said:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_SM5ZvuAkVI&time_continue=16&feature=emb_title

RT 34 secs
It’s starting to be on multiple channels, from different angles. I “know” there are multiple people on here, way smarter than me. What ya think??
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This is a zoomed in look at the 'missile' in this video. This is the last frame where the missile is seen. The next frame does not show any missile or impact, it's like it just disappeared there.

It looks to me like this has been added on top of the original video. I am not sure, but it looks like the missile is not going to hit where the fire is. It looks like it is closer to the camera and would hit in a good distance away from where the explosion happened.

This missile was moving at a high speed and it was only on a couple of frames of the video. It shows up very clearly on the 7 frames that span just 1/5 of a second. I would expect that it would look blurry because it is moving so fast.


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thorr

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I truly don’t know, but I believe at least two cameras caught it.....
more.....faster........
 
Millwright

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Telescope Steve said:
This is a zoomed in look at the 'missile' in this video. This is the last frame where the missile is seen. The next frame does not show any missile or impact, it's like it just disappeared there.

It looks to me like this has been added on top of the original video. I am not sure, but it looks like the missile is not going to hit where the fire is. It looks like it is closer to the camera and would hit in a good distance away from where the explosion happened.

This missile was moving at a high speed and it was only on a couple of frames of the video. It shows up very clearly on the 7 frames that span just 1/5 of a second. I would expect that it would look blurry because it is moving so fast.


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That's a worse than bad photoshop.
 
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raven

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Telescope Steve said:
This is a zoomed in look at the 'missile' in this video. This is the last frame where the missile is seen. The next frame does not show any missile or impact, it's like it just disappeared there.

It looks to me like this has been added on top of the original video. I am not sure, but it looks like the missile is not going to hit where the fire is. It looks like it is closer to the camera and would hit in a good distance away from where the explosion happened.

This missile was moving at a high speed and it was only on a couple of frames of the video. It shows up very clearly on the 7 frames that span just 1/5 of a second. I would expect that it would look blurry because it is moving so fast.


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so that missile is as tall as the silos behind it. something that big would have been captured by satellite imagery taking off from whereever.
And missile that are that big are usually multistage and the first stage falls away, Infact, all the stages fall away leaving a relatively small delivery vehicle.

and the fire is already blazing away producing copious amounts of smoke and heat.

one does not need to jump through hoops to recognize that is not real
 
mzkitty

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Maybe. All I know is I saw two different "things" and nobody was trying to make anything obvious in the video that had them. You really had to hunt, and one you could BARELY make out if you tried hard.


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