CRIME Main Rittenhouse trial thread - NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
An armed person dressed in black with face covered was arrested outside the #Kenoshacourthouse. Videographer
@FordFischer says the arrestee had a knife. #Rittenhouse
RT 2min
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461429839492222981?s=20

More video of the detainment and arrest of armed masked person by videographer @BGOnTheScene, who was in #Kenosha last year capturing some of the most important videos that corporate mainstream press didn’t bother to document.

Breaking: The masked man in black bloc who was arrested while allegedly carrying a knife and gun outside the #Kenosha courthouse is Jonathan David Clark. He crossed multiple state lines to get to the direct action. #Rittenhouse
RT 38secs
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461462959339749380?s=20

Wow, if he isn't the poster child for an incel I don't know what is!
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
Someone I know on facespy, whom I've now blocked, saw a white dude at a local gas station wearing one of these hats and she went apeshit ballistic on the guy telling him how wrong he was, etc. He punched her between the eyes. My comment/response was less than polite. Who in the hell supports a pedophile?
Someone who needs to collapse all normalcy and make you think you are wrong for believing it is wrong for adults to rape children.
What we allow will continue, good for that guy who punched her, we all need to be doing more of that.
 
Someone I know on facespy, whom I've now blocked, saw a white dude at a local gas station wearing one of these hats and she went apeshit ballistic on the guy telling him how wrong he was, etc. He punched her between the eyes. My comment/response was less than polite. Who in the hell supports a pedophile?
Maybe she misread shoot as support? Support being more common in such usage, such as support your local sheriff.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen

Rittenhouse Prosecutor Concealed the Identity of a Key Player in the Kenosha Shootings From the Defense Team

By streiff | Nov 18, 2021 5:00 PM ET

One of the central figures in the shootings of August 25, 2020, in Kenosha, WI, was the guy the prosecution called “Jump Kick Man.” As Rittenhouse lies flat on his back on the street, “Jump Kick Man” races up and, well, lands a jump kick on Rittenhouse’s head. You can see him in the right foreground wearing white trousers as this video starts.

NOTE: This video is age-restricted and you need to sign in to your youtube account to watch it. I do not have a youtube account so the run time is unknown to me.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLlUVxVLiLU
[Runtime is 4:03. Very clear video of the whole altercation - Dennis]

Rittenhouse fires at least one shot at that assailant. However, that attack ensured that Lefty Grosskreutz could catch up with Rittenhouse, menace him with a loaded weapon he illegally possessed, and get shot. Shooting at Drop Kick Man is Count #3, Reckless Endangerment, in Rittenhouse’s indictment.

This man was known only as “Drop Kick Man,” and the prosecution left the impression he had not been identified throughout the trial.

Pardon my shocked face as I report to you that not only is the identity of “Drop Kick Man” known, it was known before the trial ended (in reality, they almost certainly knew before it started), he offered to testify for the prosecution, and they turned down his offer, and they never shared that information with the defense.
A career criminal and convicted felon with an open domestic violence charge has claimed to be the unidentified male at whom Kyle Rittenhouse shot twice at close range but missed, on the night of August 25, 2020.

Rittenhouse has been charged with First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety of the man known in trial only as ‘jump-kick man,’ for the flying kick he took at the teenager’s head as Rittenhouse was attacked minutes after he shot Joseph Rosenbaum dead.

Now Maurice Freeland, 39, has admitted that he was the one who kicked Rittenhouse in the head and narrowly avoided being shot as a result, after the then 17-year-old stumbled to the ground as he attempted to flee.

Now it has emerged that the same is true of ‘jump-kick man’ who was on bond that night for an alleged assault on his girlfriend that included kicking her in the ribcage having thrown her to the floor.

Freeland made his claim to being the ‘unidentified complainant,’ in the second of the five counts over which the jury is currently deliberating, to local news website Wisconsin Right Now.

WISN 1130 talk radio host Dan O’Donnell broke the story that prosecutors had identified the man Tuesday, but did not name him.

It is not known when the state learned Freeland’s identity, but it has been confirmed that he had wanted immunity before he would testify, and that Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger would not grant it.
Not only was he known to the prosecution, the number two prosecutor on the case, James “Doughnut Boy” Kraus, had prosecuted him at least twice, and his last conviction was before this current judge.

View: https://twitter.com/ds_abp/status/1461422470393520131?s=20


I’m not saying that knowing his identity would have been a game-changer in the trial, but it would have been evident that every shot fired by Rittenhouse that night was aimed at a convicted felon who was attacking him. One has to think that would have made a difference.

Suppressing the real name of “Drop Kick Man” simply makes the persecution of Kyle Rittenhouse more consistent.

All of his assailants were felons. There was the psycho child rapist, the domestic abuser, the perennial DUI, an illegal firearm possessor, and a felon out on bond.

The prosecution kept up its record of acting unethically and immorally. The lackwit “first chair” on the case, Binger, engaged in a grave constitutional violation, the judge’s words, not mine, when he tried to get the jury to infer guilt from Rittenhouse’s pre-trial silence. He lied relentlessly. He barely knew his ass from a hot rock. He hid evidence from the defense (Rittenhouse Trial Delves Into if Clearer Video Was Withheld From Defense). In a way, we need to be thankful for the jiggling lump of gelatinous failure that was Doughnut Boy, his number two for the comic relief.

The judge talked a big game, but when it came time to actually make decisions that needed to be made, he became just another clown in the circus, letting the prosecution do whatever the hell it wanted to do despite his play-to-the-camera scoldings.

View: https://twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1460984487249068034?s=20
 
Last edited by a moderator:

bw

Fringe Ranger
The judge talked a big game, but when it came time to actually make decisions that needed to be made, he became just another clown in the circus, letting the prosecution do whatever the hell it wanted to do despite his play-to-the-camera scoldings.

Ok, the judge presided over a drop-kick-man case, but is there any showing that the judge KNEW this was the guy he'd seen before?
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Ok, the judge presided over a drop-kick-man case, but is there any showing that the judge KNEW this was the guy he'd seen before?
I don't think so, bw. As I understand it and as best as I can recall on minimal sleep this morning, the prosecution played dumb to both the defense and the judge (lied by omission).
 

DennisD

Veteran Member

Rittenhouse Prosecutor Concealed the Identity of a Key Player in the Kenosha Shootings From the Defense Team

By streiff | Nov 18, 2021 5:00 PM ET

One of the central figures in the shootings of August 25, 2020, in Kenosha, WI, was the guy the prosecution called “Jump Kick Man.” As Rittenhouse lies flat on his back on the street, “Jump Kick Man” races up and, well, lands a jump kick on Rittenhouse’s head. You can see him in the right foreground wearing white trousers as this video starts.

NOTE: This video is age-restricted and you need to sign in to your youtube account to watch it. I do not have a youtube account so the run time is unknown to me.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLlUVxVLiLU


Rittenhouse fires at least one shot at that assailant. However, that attack ensured that Lefty Grosskreutz could catch up with Rittenhouse, menace him with a loaded weapon he illegally possessed, and get shot. Shooting at Drop Kick Man is Count #3, Reckless Endangerment, in Rittenhouse’s indictment.

This man was known only as “Drop Kick Man,” and the prosecution left the impression he had not been identified throughout the trial.

Pardon my shocked face as I report to you that not only is the identity of “Drop Kick Man” known, it was known before the trial ended (in reality, they almost certainly knew before it started), he offered to testify for the prosecution, and they turned down his offer, and they never shared that information with the defense.

Not only was he known to the prosecution, the number two prosecutor on the case, James “Doughnut Boy” Kraus, had prosecuted him at least twice, and his last conviction was before this current judge.

View: https://twitter.com/ds_abp/status/1461422470393520131?s=20


I’m not saying that knowing his identity would have been a game-changer in the trial, but it would have been evident that every shot fired by Rittenhouse that night was aimed at a convicted felon who was attacking him. One has to think that would have made a difference.

Suppressing the real name of “Drop Kick Man” simply makes the persecution of Kyle Rittenhouse more consistent.

All of his assailants were felons. There was the psycho child rapist, the domestic abuser, the perennial DUI, an illegal firearm possessor, and a felon out on bond.

The prosecution kept up its record of acting unethically and immorally. The lackwit “first chair” on the case, Binger, engaged in a grave constitutional violation, the judge’s words, not mine, when he tried to get the jury to infer guilt from Rittenhouse’s pre-trial silence. He lied relentlessly. He barely knew his ass from a hot rock. He hid evidence from the defense (Rittenhouse Trial Delves Into if Clearer Video Was Withheld From Defense). In a way, we need to be thankful for the jiggling lump of gelatinous failure that was Doughnut Boy, his number two for the comic relief.

The judge talked a big game, but when it came time to actually make decisions that needed to be made, he became just another clown in the circus, letting the prosecution do whatever the hell it wanted to do despite his play-to-the-camera scoldings.

View: https://twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1460984487249068034?s=20
Add this to the list of reasons for a mistrial w/prejudice.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The percentage of convicted felons in the United States population is fairly low. Does it strike anyone else as strange that all five of the Rittenhouse attackers were felons? This seems to go beyond a mere statistical anomaly. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever coordinated the riot specifically recruited felons with violent histories.

Best
Doc
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
The percentage of convicted felons in the United States population is fairly low. Does it strike anyone else as strange that all five of the Rittenhouse attackers were felons? This seems to go beyond a mere statistical anomaly. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever coordinated the riot specifically recruited felons with violent histories.

Best
Doc

They were letting them out of jail because of "Covid." They needed the ground forces available on a moments notice.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
They were letting them out of jail because of "Covid." They needed the ground forces available on a moments notice.

DNC to BLM/ANTIFA/Anarchists...Democrat run cities are yours.

America is Gotham City, Bane is BLM/ANTIFA/Anarchists with his Marxist followers (2min)

"We take Gotham from the corrupt! The Rich!
The oppressors of generation who have kept you down with myth of opportunity.
And we give it back to you...the people. Gotham is yours!
None shall interfere. Do as you please.

But start by storming BlackGate and freeing the oppressed!
Step forward, those who would serve for an army will be raised.

The powerful will be ripped from their decadent nests and cast out into the cold world that we know and endure!
Courts will be convened!
Spoils will be enjoyed!
Blood will be shed!

The police will survive as they learn to serve true justice.

This great city...it will endure.
Gotham will survive!"

View: https://youtu.be/clZ5pdrc_X8

DNC Hiring Dark Revolutionary Forces to help destroy the Middle Class.

Once the Revolutionary Mob has destroyed Law & Order and subdued their enemies they think they are still in power.

Do You Feel In Charge? (2min)

Tom Hardy: I'm in Charge.
Bane: Do You Feel In Charge?
Tom Hardy: I've paid you a small fortune.
Bane: This gives you power over me?
Tom Hardy: What is this?
Bane: Your money and infrastructure have been important...til now.
Tom Hardy: What are you?
Bane: I'm Gotham's (America) reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on.
Tom Hardy: You're pure evil.
Bane: I'm necessary evil.

View: https://youtu.be/3C_BubeBU8E?t=14

Yuri Bezmenov warned they (Revolutionary Useful Idiots) are the most dangerous element of the post revolution.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Just an FYI.

North Carolina. Wake(Raleigh), Durham(Durham), and Cumberland(Fayetteville) law enforcement has gone 100% encrypted on their communications. I'm still getting Harnett and Johnston counties along with Ft. Bragg.


They did this during the rioting last year also.

Do you mean this is recent, as in since the trial?
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
The percentage of convicted felons in the United States population is fairly low. Does it strike anyone else as strange that all five of the Rittenhouse attackers were felons? This seems to go beyond a mere statistical anomaly. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever coordinated the riot specifically recruited felons with violent histories.

Best
Doc

4 for 4 isnt a coincidence.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
South Carolina. Greenville(Greenville). Tac and Vice talk groups
are still the only talk groups that are encrypted. Easley(Pickens),
is still using VHF/UHF and I am monitoring now.

If any festivities start here, it will be in Spartanburg, and I am too
far away to hear them reliably. Greenville is getting worse like
everywhere else, and if anything starts today nationwide,
I will pull my APCO 25 scanner out of my truck, and bring it inside
to monitor their talk groups.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

summerthyme

Administrator
_______________
FYI - It's deer season (gun) opener in WI. starting the morning of the 20th (tomorrow). LOTS of people/Patriots will be fully armed for the next week in the state of WI. Deer camp/Widows week is a BIG deal here.
Here in "blue" NY as well. People have been sighting in firearms all week. Tomorrow morning, shortly after daylight, it will sound like thevstart of WWIII.

summerthyme
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here in "blue" NY as well. People have been sighting in firearms all week. Tomorrow morning, shortly after daylight, it will sound like thevstart of WWIII.

summerthyme
Same here.

Our deer season for regular rifles, will start Sat. Bow and primitive weapons has been going on for about a month.

Yea, I can see it all now:

Roads will be hot before the sun comes up. Frisco, the dog, will hear that and think people are going to work and therefore mom and dad need to get up, and get at it. So roll call will be at 5 Sat. To make it even worse I've given up hunting. I just can't take the cold any more.

Son will be working on taking 6 this year. 4 to give away and 2 for his freezer. He usually only takes 4. But at his new job, 2 others have spoken up.

He's got his work cut out.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
South Carolina. Greenville(Greenville). Tac and Vice talk groups
are still the only talk groups that are encrypted. Easley(Pickens),
is still using VHF/UHF and I am monitoring now.

If any festivities start here, it will be in Spartanburg, and I am too
far away to hear them reliably. Greenville is getting worse like
everywhere else, and if anything starts today nationwide,
I will pull my APCO 25 scanner out of my truck, and bring it inside
to monitor their talk groups.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski

I'm running a Uniden BCD536HP with a disc/cone antenna on the peak of the roof. When I have the scanner for max range (as I do now) I occasionally get a little administrative type traffic out of SC and VA.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
The percentage of convicted felons in the United States population is fairly low. Does it strike anyone else as strange that all five of the Rittenhouse attackers were felons?
No. Let me ask YOU a question. Don’t you think that groups of people who burn, pillage, and attack others might contain a larger than average percentage of criminals? Dude, I know you’re a sharp cookie. Did that thought never once cross your mind?
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
The percentage of convicted felons in the United States population is fairly low. Does it strike anyone else as strange that all five of the Rittenhouse attackers were felons? This seems to go beyond a mere statistical anomaly. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever coordinated the riot specifically recruited felons with violent histories.

Best
Doc

Here is a Veritas undercover report where they admit to seeking out mentally unstable people to do their bidding. I am sure this was orchestrated to some degree. The Ziminski's (he's the one that shot the pistol while Rosenbaum was chasing Kyle) are probably the linchpins.

The run time is 16:26 but at 13:50 they talk about recruiting the mentally ill. I wonder what Scott Foval is up to these days.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY&t
 

ChicagoMan74

ULTRA MAGA
During the last 48 hours. I am now getting Fayetteville police also.
Well just damn.

I'm a little closer to the "action"...I got a couple friends who are CPD and a one who is an officer in the town that I reside.

They're going to give me a heads up if things get spicy. They're under a "no vacation time" order already.

During the looting last summer, the our local town police did a GREAT job cordoning off all our stores to keep the drive by looting away. A few stores built actual barricades. There was no looting that took place in my town while Chicago stores were looted and some burned.

And the sad fact is...that's what its probably going to be this time as well. If Rittenhouse isnt convicted...the same thugs will use that excuse to be out thuging and loot again. Its got nothing to do with "justice". It has everything to do with not letting a opportunistic "crisis" go to waste.
 
Last edited:

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
NOTE: Video referenced can't be embedded here. Go to the source to view



Kyle Rittenhouse Case, Jury Deliberations Day Four – Open Discussion Thread
November 19, 2021 | Sundance | 173 Comments

Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors and U.S. corporate media attempted to claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight; however, the defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self-defense.

Stunningly the jury is entering day #4 of deliberations. However, ground reports from last evening {Direct Rumble Link} highlight a possibility the jury is split 6-6 in their deliberations [SEE VIDEO - VIDEO runtime is 3:32]. Yesterday MSNBC was blocked from the courtroom after an NBC journalist was caught attempting to follow the jury bus the previous evening.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
How long does a jury have to deliberate before it's considered "hung"?

Is the delay still those two jurors who are scared by all the threats / intimidation?

(Correction per previous post--now hung 6 to 6)

If so, the judge should recuse them and either declare a mistrial with prejudice and drop this entire mess, or start all over (I hope not that)
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
We already know that elections are dead in this country. (which doesn't mean I'll stop exercising my right to vote, but I'm doing so with my eyes open as to the probable results)

If this jury (with clear evidence both verbal and visual that Rittenhouse fired in self-defense) and this judge (with MULTIPLE instances of the Prosecuting Atty violating Rittenhouse's rights by bringing in the issue of his using his Constitutional right not to speak / volunteer information when arrested--which the judge had TOLD him not to do, and keeping vital information from the Defense attorney, plus numerous other violations that incensed the judge) still allow Rittenhouse to be convicted for lawfully using his right to self-defense--then we'll know that right also is dead in this country.

Which, however, like the right to vote, I assume many will keep exercising regardless--

but we need to do so with eyes open as to what that means.....if this goes south.
 
Top