CRIME Main Rittenhouse trial thread - NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

Hogwrench

Senior Member
Supposedly (according to one of the Rekieta Law panelists) the foreman is a cop and is a "hostile juror" that is bent on conviction.

I have been watching all day and they were saying a few minutes ago that juror 54 is a mask wearing Karen who was a pharmacist.
 

Teeja

On the Beach
The notes sent to the judge has the Forman’s number on it.

Okay, that's interesting, because the notes are only for asking the judge specific questions, not informing the judge of anything as far as progress or details on the deliberation. And the only ones who are supposed to handle those notes are the Bailiff and the judge himself, correct? So how exactly would any outside party be privy to that information?
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
Okay, that's interesting, because the notes are only for asking the judge specific questions, not informing the judge of anything as far as progress on the deliberation. And the only ones who are supposed to handle those notes are the Bailiff and the judge himself, correct? So how exactly would any outside party be privy to that information?
Last time I was on a jury the foreman was selected prior to the trial and anyone in the courtroom would know who it was by his actions.

But that wasn't in Wisconsin
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
It's all make believe. Nothing should leak out of the jury room -- not even who the foreman is.
It’s easy to know who the Forman is. Go back and watch the videos of the jury selection where they were given numbers. Then look at the note that was sent to the judge requesting the video and at the bottom it has the presiding juror on it. The note is on Jack prosbiacs Twitter as well as reported in the sun.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Okay, that's interesting, because the notes are only for asking the judge specific questions, not informing the judge of anything as far as progress or details on the deliberation. And the only ones who are supposed to handle those notes are the Bailiff and the judge himself, correct? So how exactly would any outside party be privy to that information?
These "facts" are all make believe. The questions are enveloped and sealed. Then given to the judge. Any exposure of any juror is an automatic mistrial and probably criminal misconduct
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
It’s easy to know who the Forman is. Go back and watch the videos of the jury selection where they were given numbers. Then look at the note that was sent to the judge requesting the video and at the bottom it has the presiding juror on it. The note is on Jack prosbiacs Twitter as well as reported in the sun.
Yes, juror # 54
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
With regards to notes, hostile jurors, privileged information getting outside the court, Rittenhouse already screwed - I'd say some if not all is guess work at best, lefty propaganda at worst.

The guessing of a jury's decision is a little like predicting an election outcome, the stock market or the weather - you will not know the outcome until it's over.

However if the left predicts violence, there will be violence, regardless of the jury's decision.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
It’s easy to know who the Forman is. Go back and watch the videos of the jury selection where they were given numbers. Then look at the note that was sent to the judge requesting the video and at the bottom it has the presiding juror on it. The note is on Jack prosbiacs Twitter as well as reported in the sun.
That's nuts. 15 years as a cop. Any communication from jury to judge came sealed. After he read it he sealed it back up. If communication from the the jury is public information I will never be part of a jury.
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
OK. Retired cop here. Every state does it differently. And none of their information is public other than their juror number and any observations that could’ve been made from someone that was in the courtroom at the time. During jury selection professions and other things were asked. That’s how they came to the conclusion that juror 54 is a pharmacist.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So if they are hung, he can declare mistrial with prejudice? I thought a hung jury always opened the door for a new trial (but not mandated it).

Yes. A hung jury opens the door for a new trial, but doesn't mean it will happen. Only a possibility.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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So if they are hung, he can declare mistrial with prejudice? I thought a hung jury always opened the door for a new trial (but not mandated it).
This has already been discussed literally to death.


There is a motion for a mistrial with prejudice before the judge RIGHT NOW.

The judge has stated that he will NOT RULE on the motion UNTIL something happens with the jury.

He can grant the motion
-or-
Order a new trial

-once-

The jury announces it's deadlocked (if it does)
-or-

IF the jury convicts, the judge CAN still grant the motion after-the-fact



We've been over it and over it and over it and over it. READ THE THREADS.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
My guess??? They're hung but will wait til tomorrow (Friday) to come out. Sleep on it overnight and vote agan in the morning. If the holdout is also the foreman that person will want to drag it out as long as possible realizing that the judge is holding a mistrial with prejudice in his pocket. That card can be played even after the verdict is read even if they are hung. The holdouts are probably wanting to convict.
 

Chapulin

Veteran Member
The local area should really be hoping the results are not announced on a Friday. Sounds like pizza parties and pool parties for the Jury and the plan should be to wait to announce anything until Monday.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
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vector7

Dot Collector
An armed person dressed in black with face covered was arrested outside the #Kenoshacourthouse. Videographer
@FordFischer says the arrestee had a knife. #Rittenhouse
RT 2min
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461429839492222981?s=20

More video of the detainment and arrest of armed masked person by videographer @BGOnTheScene, who was in #Kenosha last year capturing some of the most important videos that corporate mainstream press didn’t bother to document.

Breaking: The masked man in black bloc who was arrested while allegedly carrying a knife and gun outside the #Kenosha courthouse is Jonathan David Clark. He crossed multiple state lines to get to the direct action. #Rittenhouse
RT 38secs
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461462959339749380?s=20
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
An armed person dressed in black with face covered was arrested outside the #Kenoshacourthouse. Videographer
@FordFischer says the arrestee had a knife. #Rittenhouse
RT 2min
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461429839492222981?s=20

More video of the detainment and arrest of armed masked person by videographer @BGOnTheScene, who was in #Kenosha last year capturing some of the most important videos that corporate mainstream press didn’t bother to document.

Breaking: The masked man in black bloc who was arrested while allegedly carrying a knife and gun outside the #Kenosha courthouse is Jonathan David Clark. He crossed multiple state lines to get to the direct action. #Rittenhouse
RT 38secs
View: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461462959339749380?s=20
He has Antifa ear lobes. Just pulled his black buttons out.
 

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
This has already been discussed literally to death.


There is a motion for a mistrial with prejudice before the judge RIGHT NOW.

The judge has stated that he will NOT RULE on the motion UNTIL something happens with the jury.

He can grant the motion
-or-
Order a new trial

-once-

The jury announces it's deadlocked (if it does)
-or-

IF the jury convicts, the judge CAN still grant the motion after-the-fact



We've been over it and over it and over it and over it. READ THE THREADS.
What threads?
 
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