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Police And EMS Will be Terminated For Refusing Vaccine Mandate, Democrat Plan Is Destroying The U.S.

Aug 27, 2021


Tim Pool


Police And EMS Will be Terminated For Refusing Vaccine Mandate, Democrat Plan Is Destroying The U.S. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot is in major conflict with the Chicago Police Union over vaccine mandates. Cops are threatening to walk off the job over the mandates. In other parts of the country, mostly Democrat controlled areas EMS, Firefighters, and Police are refusing mandates which will result in their termination or capitulation. But in Republican areas this doesn't seem to be a problem. In the end this seems to signal that the country is about to fracture in a variety of ways.
 

marsh

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18:51 min

364 - The Ethics of COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates

Aug 27, 2021


Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health


This week, Stephanie Desmon and Josh Sharfstein are teaming up to talk to experts about COVID-19 vaccine mandates. Today, they look through the ethical lens with Nancy Kass, a leading ethicist at Johns Hopkins. They discuss why vaccine mandates should never be Plan A, when mandates can become critically necessary and how mandates shouldn’t be put in place for frivolous reasons or settings, just when public health is at stake.
 

'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta

FRIDAY, AUG 27, 2021 - 07:39 AM
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden's COVID advisors have been proven wrong about "the science" of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the opposite is true: natural infection offers a much better shield against the delta variant than vaccines.



The study was described by Bloomberg as "the largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity - gained from an earlier infection - to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use." A few days ago, we noted how remarkable it was that the mainstream press was finally giving voice to scientists to criticize President Biden's push to start doling out booster jabs. Well, this study further questions the credibility of relying on vaccines, given that the study showed that the vaccinated were ultimately 13x as likely to be infected as those who were infected previously, and 27x more likely to be symptomatic.

Alex Berenson, a science journalist who has repeatedly questioned the efficacy of vaccines and masks at preventing COVID, touted the study as enough to "end any debate over vaccines v natural immunity."

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Here's an excerpt from a report by Science Magazine:

This time, the data leave little doubt that natural infection truly is the better option for protection against the delta variant, despite the fact that the US won't acknowledge the already infected as having antibodies protecting them from the virus.

As the first country to achieve widepsread coverage by the vaccine, Israel is now in an unthinkable situation: daily case numbers have reached new record levels as the delta variant penetrates the vaccines' protection like a hot knife slicing through butter.


Source: Bloomberg

At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic.

"This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant," the researchers said.

Unfortunately, the study also showed that any protection is time-limited.

Protection offered by natural infection wanes over time, just like the protection afforded by vaccines: The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13x higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. That's significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak.

What's more, giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection. Still, the data don't tell us anything about the long-term benefits of booster doses.

This latest data showing the vaccines don't offer anywhere near the 90%+ protection that was originally advertised by the FDA after the emergency authorization. Other studies are finding harmful side effects caused by the mRNA jabs are also more prevalent than previously believed.

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Pulmonologist raises alarm on hospital Covid treatment…
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What are the two things? I can guess, anyone sure?
 

marsh

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New Yorkers Fight Unprecedented Vaccine Mandates In NYC! Large Union Protest at City Hall: Video and Photos

By Guest Author Cara Castronuova
Published August 27, 2021 at 5:53pm
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“New York Unions for Choice” hosted a large rally protesting Biden, former New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo, and NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio’s Medical Mandates at City Hall in Manhattan on Wednesday.

The New York City Department of Education has mandated the vaccine for all teachers,” said event organizer Michael Kane. “Our union, the United Federation of Teachers, have not come to our aid and rolled over. That is why I am announcing today that I am leaving my union.”

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The protest, described to be the largest protest of rank-and-file union members in NYC History, had thousands of attendees- from teachers, firefighters, nurses, healthcare workers, EMTs, EMS, police, detectives, sanitation, postal workers and federal workers who reject what they perceive to be a looming Covid-19 vaccine mandate now threatening their unions and freedom of choice.

Also in heavy attendance were NYC small business owners frustrated that the government is now demanding they police their own patrons.

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New York City is the first major city in the United States to require proof of vaccination for indoor activities, also known as a “vaccine passport”. The new “Key to NYC” mandate requires patrons of indoor dining, fitness, entertainment, and performances to provide proof of Covid-19 vaccination. Employees at these establishments must also be vaccinated. There are no exceptions to this mandate, such as a negative COVID-19 test.

“Bill DeBlasio is a lame duck Mayor who is taking one last gasp power grab. His final act is literally designed to destroy small business owners and pit them against their customers,” said NYC Comptroller Candidate John Tabacco. “Asking small business owners to become police is class warfare and New Yorkers will not comply.”

Anti-mandate rallies have been a regular fixture in New York City for the past ten months, but this protest marks the largest to date as the mandatory vaccine mandate took effect as of August 17th and will be fully enforced as of September 13th.

“The rest of the country has been waiting for New York to come alive!” said rally speaker Kevin Jenkins in response to the large crowd reaching far down Broadway and Park Row.

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“I have lived in this city my entire life,” said attendee Jessica Marks. “This is dystopia to me. It is medial discrimination and segregation. I can’t imagine what is coming next if we do not fight to have this reversed.”

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Some New Yorkers worry that it is too late.

“We tried to warn people for months now,” said regular rally goer Tina Ryan.

“Now they believe us. I am hoping the rest of the country wakes up and learns a lesson from what happened here in NYC. If you sleep on your government, they will become tyrannical. If this can happen in New York, it can happen anywhere.”

Many New Yorkers are hopeful that a lawsuit brought on by a group of attorneys against the city on behalf of small business owners who do not want to comply with the vaccine passport mandate will bring relief.

“We seek to stop these mandates dead in their tracks,” said attorneys Mark Fonte and Lou Gelormino.

The NYC Attorneys have been active since last year’s lockdowns in fighting mandates they believe to be unconstitutional. They previously sued the NYC Mayor and won concessions to restore indoor dinning and hybrid learning in schools. They just filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of independent restaurant owners, gyms, salons, and small businesses seeking Injunctive Relief. They will be heard in NY State Supreme Court on September 3rd.

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“We are eager to again take on this fight against government overreach. We expect to stop these arbitrary and capricious mandates in their tracks,” said Fonte and Gelormino.

A stand out feature of the rally was the mix of Conservative, Republican, Independent, Democrat and Progressive attendees and speakers at the event. A speaker who said he was a Socialist even spoke to the audience but was booed on the stage by the crowd. He was quickly saved by rally organize Michael Kane.

“I am so proud of all my Republican, Democrat, Independent, Conservative and Progressive brothers and sisters who came together today in unity to fight for the same cause,” said Kane. “No vaccine mandates in the city of New York!”

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New Yorkers vow to continue to take action. “There will be a protest every single Monday at 12PM noon outside of City Hall until the mandate is rescinded,” said protest organizers from the organization “New York Freedom Rally”. Please check our social media for updates @NewYorkFreedomRally on Instagram.”

September 13th will be the next large-scale event in New York City, according to Kane. “Stay tuned to www.TeachersForChoice.org for all protest updates,” said Kane. “We won’t stop fighting.”
 

marsh

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Immunity Debt_ Do Face Masks, Social Distancing, and Lockdowns Weaken Our Immune Systems_


Immunity Debt: Do Face Masks, Social Distancing, and Lockdowns Weaken Our Immune Systems?

by DR. JOSEPH MERCOLA
August 27, 2021


  • Whether COVID policies weakened your immune system depends on how you define “weakened.” Adult immune responses may not have diminished during lockdowns, but the strength of the system that prevents illness has likely been affected
  • Infants and children may have had the most significant response, as the number hospitalized with respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) rises. The illness is mild in adults but may be fatal in infants, especially premature infants
  • The 2020/2021 influenza season may go down in history as the year with one of the lowest numbers of infections; Robert Koch Institute reports there was a 64% drop in whooping cough, 86% drop in measles and 83% drop in rotavirus (gastrointestinal) infections
  • Masking children may increase levels of CO2 they are breathing, that may also be associated with complaints reported in a database of 25,930 children, which include shortness of breath, dizziness, impaired learning, headache and difficulty concentrating
  • Strategies you can use to strengthen your immune health are to optimize your level of vitamin D, compress your eating window to six to eight hours each day, avoid linoleic acid, exercise consistently and use a sauna
Your immune system is a complex network of organs, tissues and cells that help your body fight infections and other diseases. During the past 18 months as most of the world has been masked up, locked down and otherwise distanced from one another, children and adults have not been exposed to viruses and bacteria as they normally would.

On the one hand, there has been a significant reduction in the number of people reporting colds, flu and other infectious diseases. On the other hand, some health experts are questioning if this lack of exposure may have increased the risk for some to experience more illnesses as children are re-entering school and adults are re-entering the workforce.1

When pathogens like viruses or bacteria attack and multiply, it can cause an illness or disease that makes you sick. There are several parts to your immune system, but the two main parts are your innate immune system, which you were born with, and your adaptive immune system, which is developed as you’re exposed to pathogens.2 These two systems work together to help protect your health.

Like a well-programmed computer, a healthy immune system keeps a record of every pathogen to which it has been exposed so that it can quickly recognize it if exposed again. The immune system is activated when the body is exposed to a protein it doesn’t recognize, called an antigen.

Since the system is so complex, there are several potential ways in which things can go wrong. When a person has an immune response when there is no real threat it can result in allergies, asthma and autoimmune diseases. If the system doesn’t work correctly it can result in immunodeficiency diseases, which results in more sickness that can last longer.

Your immune system can also become hypersensitive to an antigen, triggering an overreaction that can be fatal, such as anaphylactic shock. Some health experts are concerned that children may have experienced greater harm to their immune system than adults since they have spent the better part of the last 18 months isolated from nearly every exposure.3

Did Masks and Social Distancing Weaken Your Immune System?
Ultimately, the answer to this question depends on how you define weakened. Many experts believe that a short period of time without pathogen contact does not weaken an adult immune response to exposure in the future.4 However, masking, social distancing and lockdowns have created an environment where you are shielded from environmental strategies that support and boost your immune system, which reduces your risk of getting infected.5

From what researchers are now finding, it is infants and children who may have the most significant response to social distancing.6 Since the beginning of 2020, doctors and hospitals have noticed there is a significant reduction in the number of bacterial and viral infections children have been contracting.

This includes bronchiolitis, measles, varicella, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and pertussis. A paper published in August 2021, from the Pediatric Infectious Disease Group7 postulated there were a variety of non-pharmaceutical interventions imposed during 2020 that may lead to larger epidemics of other infectious diseases when these interventions are no longer being used.

For example, as you may have read in the news, the influenza season during 2020/2021 will likely go down in history as a year with one of the lowest numbers of infections.8 Social distancing, staying out of large gatherings and washing hands may well have helped slow the spread of all infectious diseases, including the common cold, flu and SARS-CoV-2.

According to a story in DW that was translated from German, the monthly influenza report by Germany’s Robert Koch Institute (RKI)9 found there “had been no “measurable” wave of flu infections in Germany or in other European countries during the 2020/2021 flu season.”10

A report from the World Health Organization found similar results,11 stating that “despite continued or even increased testing for influenza in some countries, influenza activity remained at lower levels than expected for this time of the year.” In addition to measuring influenza infections, the RKI report also found there was a 35% drop in infectious diseases generally between March and August 2020.12

For example, whooping cough dropped by 64% and measles dropped by 86%. Other infectious diseases that are not spread through respiratory droplets, such as gastrointestinal infections, also decreased. For example, rotavirus infections drop by 83% and norovirus, by 79%.

The RKI report also found that HIV infections drop by 22% but they postulate this may have to do more with diagnosis and not a reduction in actual spread based on the restrictions that clinics in counseling centers were under during 2020.

Rising Number of Infants With RSV Related to Immunity Debt
Some experts are calling a rising number of RSV infections in babies a “debt of immunity” that was created when infants born during 2020 had a lack of exposure to other pathogens.13 Hospitals across New Zealand are reporting rising numbers of infants, many on oxygen, ill with RSV infections.

This is straining the resources of some hospitals that have delayed surgeries or converted other rooms into clinical areas. RSV is a common respiratory illness that in adults generally produces only mild symptoms.14 However, in young children it can be serious and even fatal. Doctors also find children who recover have a higher risk of asthma in later childhood.

The pediatric doctors in New Zealand are calling this outbreak of RSV a result of immunity debt, which they believe happens when people, mainly babies and children, don’t develop immunity to other viruses that were suppressed during lockdowns, causing a precipitous rise in cases when children are exposed.15

According to The Guardian,16 New Zealand reported a 99.9% reduction in flu and 98% reduction in RSV during 2020. This nearly eliminated the spike of deaths that happens during the winter months from flu and RSV. In the short-term, it may have prevented an overload of the health care system while others were being treated for COVID-19.

However, in the long run, it may have created an additional problem in infants and children. When their immune system is not challenged at an early age, it can lead to larger outbreaks, which again taxes the health care system. As of early July 2021, New Zealand had reported nearly 1,000 cases of RSV over five weeks. The usual number reported is 1,743 over 29 weeks.

Doctors are hoping this doesn’t necessarily mean there will be more RSV cases, only that they are occurring in more rapid succession early in the season. The current outbreak has stretched the resources in New Zealand and Australia, which is also experiencing a surge in cases. New Zealand’s director general of health Dr. Ashley Bloomfield commented to a reporter from The Guardian saying he was:17

“… certainly concerned about the sharp surge in RSV cases. We had very little RSV last year. There’s some speculation that [the current outbreak] may be partly exacerbated by the fact we didn’t have any last year and so there is a bigger pool of children who are susceptible to it.”

In Canada, Wellington-based epidemiologist Michael Baker warns that his country may also see a similar trend in cases of RSV in the next year, and he believes that babies who were born prematurely are most at risk.18 He also believes that while the country may see a rebound in RSV infections, he does not think that a lack of exposure to pathogens at an early age will have “in any way impeded the development of a healthy immune system.”

Masks Also May Have Harmed Health in Other Ways
Health experts have found that forcing children to wear a face mask for long periods of time while at school and participating in activities have been doing more harm than good, considering children have a significantly lower risk from COVID-19.

As reported by the American Academy of Pediatrics,19 “cases” — children who tested positive using a PCR test but did not necessarily have symptoms — represented 14.3% of the total number of people who tested positive for COVID-19. In 23 states that reported data, children ranged from 1.5% to 3.5% of the total number hospitalized for COVID-19.

In 43 states reporting, children represented from zero percent to 0.2% mortality. In other words, the risk to children was significantly less than adults, and yet adults continue to make mask wearing compulsory for school children, increasing the risk they may experience other health harms, both physically and mentally.

For example, evidence is mounting that masks increase the risk for physical and psychological harm to children,20 even as others continue to publish “mask myth busters,” claiming otherwise.21 One argument appears to be whether exposure to elevated levels of carbon dioxide is harmful to children in the long run.

One of the arguments against the masks has to do with how your body produces carbon dioxide as a byproduct of cellular function.22 The German Federal Environmental office has set a limit of CO2 for closed rooms of 2,000 ppm, or 0.2% by volume.23 However, the Commission for Indoor Air Hygiene at the German Environment Agency has set an even lower limit of 1,000 ppm for hygienically adequate air exchange.24

But, when one study published in a June 2021 issue of JAMA25 asserted that CO2 levels in children wearing masks were unacceptably too high, the article came under immediate criticism. Less than a month later, the journal bowed to the critics and retracted the article. In a separate commentary,26 the journal cited concerns about methodology of the study and the device used to assess the carbon dioxide levels in the participants as a reason for doubting the authors’ conclusions.27

Could Mask Complaints Be Associated With CO2 Levels?
The study measured carbon dioxide levels in children breathing through two types of masks or without a face mask.28 The researchers found that children breathing under surgical, or filtering facepiece 2 (FFP2) masks reached CO2 levels deemed unacceptable by the German Federal Environmental office by a factor of 6, which was reached after three minutes of measurement.

The researchers acknowledged that the short-term nature of measurement and the children’s apprehension may have had some effect on the CO2 measurements. However, they concluded there was ample evidence children were experiencing adverse effects.

Increased levels of CO2 may be responsible for a list of complaints gathered in a German study using data from 25,930 children, of whom 68% reported adverse effects from wearing face masks.29,30 Among these, 29.7% reported feeling short of breath, 26.4% being dizzy31 and 17.9% were unwilling to move or play.32

Hundreds of other children experienced “accelerated respiration, tightness in chest, weakness and short-term impairment of consciousness.”33 The database also gathered a list of other symptoms in children who wore face masks for an average of 270 minutes each day,34 including impaired learning, drowsiness or fatigue, malaise, headache and difficulty concentrating.

Yet, despite all this data, Research Square editors still posted a warning on top of the abstract, telling readers that this study has “numerous limitations” and therefore “cannot demonstrate a causal relationship between mask wearing and the reported adverse effects in children.” So, the only question may be, will all mask studies be rejected similarly, unless they show masks are great for children and do no harm at all?

Dr. Vinay Prasad, a hematologist-oncologist and associate professor of medicine at the University of California San Francisco, published a thoughtful synopsis of the current situation, noting there are both benefits and risks to children wearing masks. While large, empirical studies could answer the question of whether masks help or harm children, “we did literally zero of them,” Prasad said adding:35

“Here is the real answer to the question of whether it’s worth it to mask kids: No one has any clue. During the last year and half, the scientific community has failed to answer these questions. Failed entirely.We have no idea if masks work for 2-year-olds and above, 5 and above, 12 and above. No idea if they only work for some period of time. No idea if this is linked to community rates. No idea if the concerns over language loss offset the gains in reduced viral transmission, and if so, for what ages.”

Long article see website for the rest.
 

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Fred Corbin ask some questions about Covid

In a town hall meeting in Barbados, a professional race car engineer with a background in nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, marine biology, and civil and aerospace engineering, educates the people in attendance on what he says is the source of COVID, and why it is, in fact, a biological weapon along with the vaccines being administered.

He says he has ⁣leaked Pfizer jab documents & access to the Wuhan labs “deleted” database! Vital information that could prove the the entire pandemic was planned? Yet the “board” doesn’t want to know?

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“My name is Fred Corbin. I’m a professional race car engineer. I have a background in nuclear, biological and chemical weapons study. And I also have civil engineering, aerospace engineering and marine biology has core related subjects of study. I came here this afternoon, not only to represent the people of Barbados, but to bring a certain educational perspective to what a tremendous amount of people have been asking me with the kind of background that I have in understanding what is actually going on. So I have one question, which I don’t want to response to. I don’t really need a response to the question. And then I have a series of points I would like to back up that question with. And I’d like to address this question directly to the chief medical officer and my lady over there in the corner. I’d like to ask the chief medical officer please to provide evidence for the public education that describes the isolation of a SARS COV 2 virus directly from a sample taken from a deceased patient, where the patient sample was not first combined with any other source of genetic material, ie monkey kidney cells, aka veero cells, liver cancer cells.” – Fred Corbin

 

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Cook County judge strips mother of parental rights over vaccination status
By Dane Placko
Published 6 hours ago


CHICAGO - A Chicago mother says a Cook County judge has taken away her parental rights after learning that she is not vaccinated against COVID-19.

In what all parties agree is a very unusual and perhaps unprecedented step, a judge at Chicago’s Daley Center has stripped Rebecca Firlit of custody because she refuses to get a vaccination shot.

"I miss my son more than anything. It's been very difficult. I haven't seen him since August 10th," Firlit told FOX 32 News in an exclusive interview.

That’s the day Firlit appeared in court via Zoom along with her ex-husband for a child support hearing involving their 11-year-old son. The two have been divorced for seven years and share custody and parenting time.

She says out of the blue, Cook County Judge James Shapiro asked her whether she had been vaccinated. Firlit told Shapiro she had not because she has had bad reactions to vaccines in the past.

Shapiro then ordered that Firlit be stripped of all parenting time with her son until she gets vaccinated.

Over the past two weeks, Firlit has been able to talk to her son on the phone and through video calls, but has not seen him in person.

"I think that it’s wrong. I think that it’s dividing families. And I think it’s not in my son's best interest to be away from his mother," Firlit said.

Firlit is now appealing the court order, saying the judge has no business taking away her parenting rights simply because she’s not vaccinated.

"It had nothing to do with what we were talking about. He was placing his views on me. And taking my son away from me," Firlit said.

Annette Fernholz, Firlit's attorney, says the judge has overstepped his authority.

"In this case you have a judge, without any matter before him regarding the parenting time with the child deciding ‘Oh, you’re not vaccinated. You don't get to see your child until you are vaccinated.' That kind of exceeds his jurisdiction," Fernholz said.

"You have to understand the father did not even bring this issue before the court. So it’s the judge on his own and making this decision that you can’t see your child until you’re vaccinated," Fernholz added.

The attorney representing the father, Jeffrey Leving, says they were also surprised by the judge's decision, but they support the ruling saying that given the pandemic, the child should be protected from an unvaccinated mother.

"There are children who have died because of COVID. I think every child should be safe. And I agree that the mother should be vaccinated," Leving said.

A spokesperson for Chief Judge Tim Evans and Judge Shapiro said they couldn’t comment because of the ongoing nature of the case.

Leving believes the judge is breaking new ground that could now play out in other custody cases. There is no timetable on when the appellate court will make its decision.
 

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Ron DeSantis’ School Mask Mandate Ban Struck Down by Florida Judge
The governor’s mask ban “does not meet constitutional muster,” Leon County Circuit Judge John C. Cooper ruled on Friday

By Peter Wade
August 27, 2021 3:18PM ET

Some Florida parents are breathing a sigh of relief at the news that a judge has overturned Governor Ron DeSantis’ ban on mask mandates in schools. Leon County Circuit Judge John C. Cooper sided with parents who sued the Republican governor and the state’s education department, saying the ban violates a part of the Florida constitution requiring districts to make schools safe and secure.

According to Cooper’s ruling, which was issued on Friday in a Zoom hearing, any order from the governor or a state agency that “bans under all circumstances a face mask mandate for school children without a parental opt-out does not meet constitutional muster.”

DeSantis and his attorneys attempted to justify his anti-mask efforts by claiming the order was protected by Florida’s Parents’ Bill of Rights, a controversial piece of legislature put into law this year that grants parents rights regarding their children’s education, upbringing, and health care. This includes the ability to opt children out of comprehensive sex and health education as well as immunizations. But Cooper said the law did not give the governor the authority to ban mask mandates in schools.


“Such action exceeds the authority given to the defendants under the Parents Bill of Rights law passed by the Florida legislature,” he said, adding that the Parents Bill of Rights includes an exemption for limited government actions designed to protect public health.

Striking down Gov. Ron DeSantis' ban on school mask mandates, Judge John Cooper makes a drunk driving analogy to show how rights can be limited if they put other people at risk. pic.twitter.com/BblhkpJTpc
— The Recount (@therecount) August 27, 2021

Cooper added that masks are necessary for a safe school environment, citing the “higher risk of infection to children” of the Delta variant, which is now the predominant strain of the virus, as well as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s recommendation for universal masking in all K-12 schools.

“We had a different, less infectious, less dangerous form of virus last year than we have this year,” the judge said. “As the facts change on the ground, the need or failure to need for various measures will also change.”

Even before Cooper’s decision, many Florida school districts were planning to start the school year with mask mandates in place. At least 10 school districts imposed such mandates despite DeSantis’ order and his administration’s threats of “consequences,” such as stripping funding for districts that don’t comply.

Democrats in the state applauded Judge Cooper’s decision, which will likely go into effect next week when he issues a written ruling. “The court did not have to go through legal contortion in order to come to a conclusion supported by precedent, science and common sense,” said Rep. Michael Grieco (D-Miami Beach). “The judge followed the law, something I wish everyone else in government would do, especially when we are talking about the health of children and educators.”

A spokesperson for DeSantis, Taryn Fenske, issued a statement on behalf of the governor following the ruling. “This ruling was made with incoherent justifications, not based in science and facts — frankly not even remotely focused on the merits of the case presented,” Fenske said. “We are used to the Leon County Circuit Court not following the law and getting reversed on appeal, which is exactly what happened last year in the school reopening case. We will continue to defend the law and parent’s [sic] rights in Florida, and will immediately appeal the ruling to the First District Court of Appeals, where we are confident we will prevail on the merits of the case.”

Florida’s Department of Education also said in a statement that they intend to appeal the decision. “We are immensely disappointed that the ruling issued today by the Second Judicial Circuit discards the rule of law,” said spokesperson Jared M. Ochs. “This decision conflicts with basic and established rights of parents to make private health care and education decisions for children.”

But in his ruling, the judge countered the argument that the decision not to mask is a private health care choice, comparing not masking to drunk driving. “It’s our right to drink alcoholic beverages if we’re over 21, but we cannot get in our car and start driving around while we’ve had alcoholic beverages that impair our ability to drive,” Cooper said. “And the reason is, the driver exercising his or her right to drink is now putting at risk other people.”

Masks are even more necessary in Florida now as Covid continues to ravage the state. According to calculations of CDC data by the Miami Herald, the state surpassed its record for single-day case totals on Thursday, adding 26,385 new cases. The state also leads the country in the number of people hospitalized with Covid, according to data from Health and Human Services.
 

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New Israeli Study Finds Fully Vaccinated People are at “Greater Risk of Hospitalization” and 13 TIMES MORE LIKELY to Catch Covid-19 Than Those Who Have Recovered and Have Natural Immunity
By Julian Conradson
Published August 27, 2021 at 2:06pm


A new study out of Israel has seemingly confirmed that individuals who have natural immunity have better protection against the NEW DELTA VARIANT than people who are fully vaccinated.

The team of researchers, from Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University, published their study earlier this week to medRxiv.org.

‘This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, ‘ the team of researchers wrote.

Not just a little bit better either. People who have taken both doses of the Pfizer jab are 13 TIMES more likely to have a breakthrough infection, and are even at a “greater risk for Covid-19 hospitalizations.”

The researchers conducted an extensive study on 800,000 individuals that were broken into 3 groups. People who had received either one or two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine were compared with unvaccinated individuals who have natural immunity, because they had already recovered from the virus.

SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well.
When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

MOST NOTABLY, the study also found – Three months after a 2nd dose, the risk of contracting Covid was 13.06 times higher among the vaccinated and they are 27 TIMES more likely to experience symptoms.

After adjusting for comorbidities, we found a 27.02-fold risk (95% CI, 12.7 to 57.5) for symptomatic breakthrough infection as opposed to symptomatic reinfection (P<0.001) (Table 2b). None of the covariates were significant, except for age =60 years.

So, to get this straight – According to these highly credible researchers who conducted a massive study on hundreds of thousands of people, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine won’t just make people more likely to catch new variants – they will also be more affected by symptoms and more likely to end up hospitalized.

This latest data just adds to a mounting pile of evidence that demonstrates the experimental jab’s low efficacy when it comes to stopping the spread of the virus. Even before this most recent study, some researchers had already found that the vaccinated spread the virus as much, if not more, than the unvaxxed.

The FDA skipped out on necessary trials and rubber-stamped their experimental jab anyway.

According to available data, a third of the entire US population had contracted Covid BY THE END OF 2020.

Natural immunity is not new.. It has consistently proven to be superior to inoculation. If 1/3rd of Americans had already contracted the virus – before it had even been known for a full year – then why would “everyone” need to take their experimental vaccine?

Well…

The authoritarian health regime in the US, led by Furor Dr. Fauci, has been flip-flopping since their comrades in thee CCP unleashed the virus on the world.

They are wholly unconcerned with saving anyone and are fully invested in using lockdowns and freedom-crushing restrictions to tighten their grip on power.

Mindless compliance hasn’t worked so now they must start forcing people in other ways.
 

marsh

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Here We Go: Biden and Fauci Discuss Requiring Covid Booster Shots Every 5 Months (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published August 28, 2021 at 12:50pm
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Joe Biden on Friday said he and Dr. Fauci discussed requiring Covid booster shots every five months.

The original plan was to offer a booster shot 8 months after the second dose.

We went from 2 doses of Covid shots – to 2 doses and one booster – to 2 doses and a booster shot every 5 months real quick.

“The question raised is should it be shorter than eight months? Should it be as little as five months? That’s being discussed. I spoke with Dr. Fauci this morning about that,” Biden said in the Oval Office with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.

VIDEO:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1431317323701444609
.56 min

The Pfizer CEO gave away the game plan earlier this week during an interview with Fox News.

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla on Tuesday said a vaccine-resistant variant will likely emerge.

But don’t worry because the pharma company already has a system in place to release a “variant-specific” jab within 95 days.

A booster every 5 months is going to turn into a shot every 3 months in order to protect against “variants.”
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Army Doctor Reveals More Soldiers have died from the Vaccine than died from COVID.
Calling Rhodondobondo! What do you say to this Doctor?
While you are at it, have you read what the Japanese Government found in contaminated Covid Vaccines, about 1.6 million? Hint: something that attracts magnets..
How about the data from the UK Gov. that 2/3rds of recent hospital Covid deaths of over 50 folks were all vaccinated.
Recent data from Israel- one of the most vaccinated countries - vaccination efficacy of the inoculated from last January? To say it is low is an understatement.
I know, nothing to see here, like when all the media outlets and politicians claimed the Pfizer Vac was fully approved. Except when you call their customer service number they have a recording stating the opposite. I know, we just don’t understand the Science… :strs:
 

marsh

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“Wellcamp: The Best Way To Keep You Safe” – Australian Health Officials Produce Creepy Dystopian Propaganda For New ‘Mandatory Quarantine Camps’ (Video)

By Julian Conradson
Published August 27, 2021 at 10:15pm
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The freedom-crushing restrictions that Australians have been facing have only been getting worse, day by day.

Earlier this month, health officials from down-under announced their plans to build multiple “Mandatory Quarantine Facilities” where they would be able to house rule-breakers who have been ignoring lockdown orders, and keep them from leaving.

Authorities wont play around or ask nicely either.


Once these facilities are built – If the Australian Health Regime deems you need to be put in time-out, you’re going be taken there by a heavily armed squad of Covid Gestapo.

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Now, just a few short weeks after plans were announced to build the camps, tyrannical elected officials are putting out creepy propaganda videos and photos, as part of their campaign for mindless compliance.

Their newest dystopian lockdown facility is called “Wellcamp” and officials are saying it’s “The Best Way To Keep You Safe.”


In one of the videos that was posted by Annastacia Palaszczuk – Queensland’s Minister of Trade – she talks about their phony desire “to keep you safe.” The power-drunk official also claims that the new Vax-entration camps have received massive support from the local citizens she represents.

VIDEO:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1430739214035873795
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Second propaganda video:

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1430771545685716995
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In addition to these mandatory lockdown camps, Australia has already imposed some of the harshest Covid-19 restrictions the world has seen to date.

They even have their military assisting policemen as they go door to door to preform Orwellian checkups on people suspected of violating lockdowns. Many Australians have already been filmed as they are forced into mandatory isolation by authorities.

These oppressive measures have been put in place despite Australia seeing virtually no new cases of Covid for quite some time.

Just take a look at the most recent official reporting that shows a whopping 4(yes 4..) new cases of Covid were added to Queensland’s number of total active cases, for a grand total of 26 infected individuals in the countries second-largest state.

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Palaszczuk alludes to strong support for the project and even seems to be branding the videos with her office campaign logo, as if she is planning to use the camps in her platform when she runs again for re-election.

Questionable decision considering the massive nationwide resistance in the country – But hey with all the other draconian policies they’ve implemented, they probably have those same Covid mail-in ballots that ensured a fraudulent victory for Biden.

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If you think this is just a problem for our neighbors on the opposite side of the world, think again.

Be on the lookout, and pay very close attention, for similar forced-quarantine sites that may be coming to the US.

The CDC has already
published an approach that discusses building these types of covid-internment camps, using terms like “green zone” and “shielding approach” as euphemisms to make it more palatable.

You can bet your bottom dollar – the freedom-hating, power-crazed leftists, who control Biden, cannot wait to throw conservatives into one of these Vax-entration camps.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
(fair use applies)

Green Card Applicants Will Soon Need COVID-19 Vaccine to Be Eligible: CDC

Requirement takes effect Oct. 1
By Mimi Nguyen Ly
August 28, 2021 Updated: August 28, 2021

Most green card applicants will need to get vaccinated against the CCP virus and have proof of the vaccination to be eligible for permanent residency in the United States, starting Oct. 1, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The new CDC guidance would apply to immigrants living in the United States seeking to apply for a green card.

“COVID-19 vaccination now meets the criteria for required vaccinations and is a requirement for applicants eligible for the vaccine,” the CDC said on its website.

The agency said that a negative screening for COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, does not guarantee that they won’t have the disease when they become a permanent resident.

“A combination of vaccination and routine infection control practices will provide the best protection from COVID-19 for applicants and U.S. communities,” the CDC asserted.

As such, a green card applicant “must complete the COVID-19 vaccine series and provide documentation of vaccination to the civil surgeon in person” as part of their medical examination. The CDC emphasized that “Self-reported vaccine doses without written documentation are not acceptable.”

It adds that applicants are required to receive the vaccine “regardless of evidence of immunity or prior COVID-19 infection.”

“Laboratory tests for COVID-19 immunity must not be used for the civil surgeon exam. … The duration of immunity due to natural infection is still being investigated and might not protect the applicant throughout the immigration process,” the agency said on its website.
Some Exemptions

According to the CDC, COVID-19 “meets the definition of a quarantinable communicable disease” and specifically “the definition of severe acute respiratory syndromes” under Presidential Executive Order 13674, thus making it a “Class A Inadmissible Condition.”

Vaccine refusal without an adequate reason would render the applicant inadmissible. Specifically, the CDC said: “If an applicant refuses one or more doses of a COVID-19 vaccine series that is medically appropriate for the applicant, it should be documented that the vaccine requirements are not complete and that the applicant refuses vaccination. This applicant is Class A and is inadmissible to the United States.”

People can apply for exemptions, including to seek a waiver on religious or moral grounds, or a temporary waiver if the COVID-19 vaccine is not available in the person’s area. In the latter case, the examining Civil Surgeon has to document the matter and the person needs to arrange to get the vaccine soon after.

Other reasons allowed for green card applicants to bypass COVID-19 vaccination include being under 12 years old, since the vaccine is only authorized for those over 12 years old; and having a medical condition or allergy that prevents them from taking the vaccine.

Currently, CCP virus vaccines authorized for emergency use in the United States are the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. Under the emergency use authorizations, those 12 years old or above are authorized to receive the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and those 18 years old or above are authorized to receive the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccines.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Aug. 23 gave full approval to future doses of the COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer-BioNTech for those aged 16 and older, making it the first vaccine to receive full approval in the United States. The existing supply of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will continue to be administered under an updated emergency use authorization (EUA).

According to U.S. federal law, foreigners who apply for a green card are required to be vaccinated against other diseases, including, mumps, measles, rubella, hepatitis B, polio, and pertussis.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/go-biden-fauci-discuss-requiring-covid-booster-shots-every-5-months-video/
Here We Go: Biden and Fauci Discuss Requiring Covid Booster Shots Every 5 Months (VIDEO)
By Cristina Laila
Published August 28, 2021 at 12:50pm

Joe Biden on Friday said he and Dr. Fauci discussed requiring Covid booster shots every five months.
The original plan was to offer a booster shot 8 months after the second dose.
We went from 2 doses of Covid shots – to 2 doses and one booster – to 2 doses and a booster shot every 5 months real quick.
“The question raised is should it be shorter than eight months? Should it be as little as five months? That’s being discussed. I spoke with Dr. Fauci this morning about that,” Biden said in the Oval Office with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.
VIDEO:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1431317323701444609
.56 min

The Pfizer CEO gave away the game plan earlier this week during an interview with Fox News.

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla on Tuesday said a vaccine-resistant variant will likely emerge.

But don’t worry because the pharma company already has a system in place to release a “variant-specific” jab within 95 days.

A booster every 5 months is going to turn into a shot every 3 months in order to protect against “variants.”


that didn't take long. It was literally a week ago when I posted this:

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/main-coronavirus-thread.566780/page-1378#post-8656330

CDC director: Annual COVID-19 dose after booster not anticipated
By Joseph Choi
08/19/21 02:15 PM EDT

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky on Thursday said that while the CDC is recommending booster COVID-19 shots, annual shots going forward may not be necessary.

"You know, this virus has been humbling, so I don't want to say never, but we are not necessarily anticipating that you will need this annually," Walensky said told host Tony Dokoupil during an appearance on "CBS This Morning."

[...]
 

Mprepared

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Here We Go: Biden and Fauci Discuss Requiring Covid Booster Shots Every 5 Months (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published August 28, 2021 at 12:50pm
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Joe Biden on Friday said he and Dr. Fauci discussed requiring Covid booster shots every five months.

The original plan was to offer a booster shot 8 months after the second dose.

We went from 2 doses of Covid shots – to 2 doses and one booster – to 2 doses and a booster shot every 5 months real quick.

“The question raised is should it be shorter than eight months? Should it be as little as five months? That’s being discussed. I spoke with Dr. Fauci this morning about that,” Biden said in the Oval Office with Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.

VIDEO:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1431317323701444609
.56 min

The Pfizer CEO gave away the game plan earlier this week during an interview with Fox News.

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla on Tuesday said a vaccine-resistant variant will likely emerge.

But don’t worry because the pharma company already has a system in place to release a “variant-specific” jab within 95 days.

A booster every 5 months is going to turn into a shot every 3 months in order to protect against “variants.”

When people refuse their booster shot they become as us, unvaxxinated.
 

Mprepared

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Coming soon...
Breaking: Israel no longer considers people who have received 2 Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines "vaccinated." As of September 1, only 3x vaccinated are considered immune.
View: https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1432035350852030469?s=20

They become like us, unvaxed. It can be anything they want to give you and you have your 2 shots, but now it is not enough so unvaxed, lose job, cannot get insurance, cannot go into a restaurant.
 

Cook County judge strips mother of parental rights over vaccination status
By Dane Placko
Published 6 hours ago


CHICAGO - A Chicago mother says a Cook County judge has taken away her parental rights after learning that she is not vaccinated against COVID-19.

In what all parties agree is a very unusual and perhaps unprecedented step, a judge at Chicago’s Daley Center has stripped Rebecca Firlit of custody because she refuses to get a vaccination shot.

"I miss my son more than anything. It's been very difficult. I haven't seen him since August 10th," Firlit told FOX 32 News in an exclusive interview.

That’s the day Firlit appeared in court via Zoom along with her ex-husband for a child support hearing involving their 11-year-old son. The two have been divorced for seven years and share custody and parenting time.

She says out of the blue, Cook County Judge James Shapiro asked her whether she had been vaccinated. Firlit told Shapiro she had not because she has had bad reactions to vaccines in the past.

Shapiro then ordered that Firlit be stripped of all parenting time with her son until she gets vaccinated.

Over the past two weeks, Firlit has been able to talk to her son on the phone and through video calls, but has not seen him in person.

"I think that it’s wrong. I think that it’s dividing families. And I think it’s not in my son's best interest to be away from his mother," Firlit said.

Firlit is now appealing the court order, saying the judge has no business taking away her parenting rights simply because she’s not vaccinated.

"It had nothing to do with what we were talking about. He was placing his views on me. And taking my son away from me," Firlit said.

Annette Fernholz, Firlit's attorney, says the judge has overstepped his authority.

"In this case you have a judge, without any matter before him regarding the parenting time with the child deciding ‘Oh, you’re not vaccinated. You don't get to see your child until you are vaccinated.' That kind of exceeds his jurisdiction," Fernholz said.

"You have to understand the father did not even bring this issue before the court. So it’s the judge on his own and making this decision that you can’t see your child until you’re vaccinated," Fernholz added.

The attorney representing the father, Jeffrey Leving, says they were also surprised by the judge's decision, but they support the ruling saying that given the pandemic, the child should be protected from an unvaccinated mother.

"There are children who have died because of COVID. I think every child should be safe. And I agree that the mother should be vaccinated," Leving said.

A spokesperson for Chief Judge Tim Evans and Judge Shapiro said they couldn’t comment because of the ongoing nature of the case.

Leving believes the judge is breaking new ground that could now play out in other custody cases. There is no timetable on when the appellate court will make its decision.
Judge hasn’t heard of breakthrough infections? Could be even worse for the kid.
 
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Aug. 23 gave full approval to future doses of the COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer-BioNTech for those aged 16 and older, making it the first vaccine to receive full approval in the United States. The existing supply of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will continue to be administered under an updated emergency use authorization (EUA).
There it is, in black and white. Any idea how long the present EUA socks will last, or how long until officially approved new stock becomes available?
 

marsh

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EXCLUSIVE: U.S. Scientists Continue Their Treachery in Assisting China’s Biowarfare Program Unabated

By Joe Hoft
Published August 29, 2021 at 11:40am
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Guest post by Lawrence Sellin and Anna Chen

On June 9, 2020, the former Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department, Dr. Charles Lieber, was indicted on charges of making false statements to federal authorities regarding his participation in China’s Thousand Talents Program.

China’s Thousand Talents Program is one of the most prominent Chinese talent recruitment plans designed to attract, recruit and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent recruitment efforts seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China, and they often reward individuals for stealing proprietary information.

Beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at China’s Wuhan University of Technology and later became a contractual participant in the Thousand Talents Plan from at least 2012 through 2015.

Accusations of lying to federal investigators aside, Lieber may have significantly contributed to China’s biological warfare program.

Geng-feng Zheng is a professor of chemistry at Fudan University in Shanghai, China. He received a Ph.D. degree in Chemistry in 2007 from Harvard University under the guidance of Dr. Charles Lieber and completed postdoctoral training at Northwestern University.

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Zheng is an expert in nanotechnologies and, together with Lieber in 2004, began to investigate the use of nanowire field effect transistors to detect single viruses.

The collaboration between Zheng and Lieber continued even after 2010, when Zheng became a professor at Fudan University, together producing no less than eleven scientific publications on nanowire technologies.

But the collaboration did not end there. In accordance with China’s practice of “scientific chain migration,” Zheng’s student at Fudan University, An-Qi Zhang, continued the work with Lieber on nano-bioelectronics.

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In 2016, An-Qi Zhang, Geng-feng Zheng and Charles Lieber published a book “Nanowires – Building Blocks for Nanoscience and Nanotechnology.”

China’s People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) biosensor program is based on nanotechnologies, in particular, nanowire field effect transistor biosensors.

Since 2016, there has been a massive expansion of fused military-civilian research in China after it was mandated by the Chinese Communist Party’s Thirteenth Five-Year Plan.

A key figure in China’s military-civilian biosensor program is Mao-sheng Yao of Peking University.

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Mao-sheng Yao is an expert in the surveillance and measurement of microorganisms in the environment, who, incidentally, was entirely educated in U.S. universities, receiving a Master’s degree from the University of Alabama, a doctoral degree from Rutgers University and postdoctoral training at Yale University.

In 2018, during a kick-off seminar entitled “Bioaerosol Detection Technology Strategic Collaboration,” Mao-sheng Yao announced a fused military-civilian research program with the PLA’s National Bio-protection Engineering Center, Institute of Medical Support Technology, Institute of Systems Engineering, Academy of Military Sciences in Tianjin, led by Jian-cheng Qi.

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Mao-sheng Yao and Geng-feng Zheng, Charles Lieber’s former student, have conducted collaborative research on nanowire bio-detection, co-authoring a publication in 2018.

Also in 2018, Jian-cheng Qi’s research group at the PLA’s National Bio-protection Engineering Center in Tianjin published an article entitled “Applications of silicon nanowire FET biosensors to bacterial and viral detection.”

In December 2019, Mao-sheng Yao was granted a Chinese patent entitled “Method for rapidly detecting pathogenic microorganisms in air and respiratory tract on site.”

It is important to note that Jian-cheng Qi’s research group at the PLA’s National Bio-protection Engineering Center has operated under Major General Wei Chen, presumed chief of China’s biowarfare program, who took command in Wuhan after the outbreak of COVID-19, a response highlighted in Chinese news reports and no doubt including stolen U.S. technologies. Jian-cheng Qi was part of her team in Wuhan.

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The massive infiltration of U.S. virus research programs by China’s People’s Liberation Army and the hemorrhaging of American skills and knowledge into China’s biowarfare program remain unaddressed.

Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. is retired from an international career in business and medical research with 29 years of service in the US Army Reserve and a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq. His email address is lawrence.sellin@gmail.com.
 

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Dr. Ryan Marino Covid trends like ivermectin are deadly distractions. Why can't we stop them?
We need Americans to stop looking for false cures in the feed store — and just get vaccinated.

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Aug. 28, 2021, 2:00 AM PDT

By Dr. Ryan Marino, emergency physician and medical toxicologist
"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it." This actual tweet from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration sounds better suited for an April Fool’s Day joke than for an actual federal health advisory posted just days before the FDA fully approved Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine for those 16 and older.

It’s easy to joke about ignorant or desperate people taking horse dewormers, but misinformation like this really is deadly. Hydroxychloroquine was used off-label by many around the world, with devastating results, and the same thing is now happening again.

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The internet was supposed to revolutionize how we share information. However, as we head into the second autumn of the pandemic with cases once again surging across the United States — despite a monumental vaccination effort — misinformation is still rampant. Risky coronavirus cures and unproven treatments, from hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to oleandrin and now ivermectin, prove an epidemic of science denial has flourished online.

Ivermectin is a medication widely used to treat parasitic infections in humans and animals. Some of the more common medical uses are against worms, mites and insects, like scabies and roundworms, and tropical diseases like river blindness. If you have a dog, you may know it as a heartworm medicine, and if you have livestock, like horses, cows and pigs, then you may know it as a deworming agent.

Ivermectin has shown antiviral effects at very high doses. However, it has never been proven to effectively treat or prevent viral infections in humans. Like much in vitro data, meaning research done on cell cultures in petri dishes, any positive findings have not been replicated in vivo in actual human subjects. And a quick look at this data suggests a reason why: The doses and concentrations necessary for antiviral activity are much higher than are safe for humans, and would be toxic to human life as well as viruses. If this sounds familiar it’s because the same misapplication of in vitro science has been used to promote hydroxychloroquine and disinfectants like bleach.



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Meanwhile, the human data on ivermectin tells a much different story. The available scientific evidence has consistently shown a lack of benefit in both treating and preventing Covid-19, and empiric evidence from widespread off-label use has objectively not made a difference. Notably, the only papers that showed any significant benefit for ivermectin have been retracted because they were fraudulent, but not before being shared hundreds of thousands of times around the world. The same disgraced Surgisphere server — a data sharing and analytics company that rose to prominence early in the pandemic — that posted fraudulent hydroxychloroquine science shared another fraudulent paper on ivermectin that set off this current craze.

That paper and Surgisphere no longer exist, but the damage is done. Another popularly shared study on ivermectin, which claimed to demonstrate better success than almost any other medical intervention in modern history, was also found to be falsified and was retracted. But again, only after being shared extensively online.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not. Some of the largest scale scientific efforts ever have involved the study of ivermectin in Covid-19. Another claim is that the pharmaceutical industry does not want to lose potential profits to a relatively cheap, older drug. This claim conveniently ignores the fact that one of the only drugs with good evidence for use in Covid-19 is dexamethasone, a cheap, old drug that has been implemented worldwide during this pandemic. Even the manufacturer of ivermectin, the pharmaceutical giant Merck, has released statements warning against the use of their product for coronavirus, citing safety and efficacy concerns.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not.

Groups of contrarian physicians have emerged to promote “cures” without adding any evidence, and despite names like “America’s Front Line Doctors” and “Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance,” their members often do not work clinically — meaning they do not actually have credentials to practice medicine in any hospital settings — and do not treat Covid-19 patients. The founder of FLCCC, who is not currently affiliated with any health care institutions, recently disclosed that he and his family came down with coronavirus despite taking his unproven ivermectin protocol. The AFLD is actually selling ivermectin prescriptions online, a conflict of interest.

True believers have turned to livestock preparations, which can be obtained at feed stores and other places that sell animal supplies without a prescription and without any oversight. And now poison control centers across the country are being overwhelmed with calls related to this off-label ivermectin use, because like most drugs that are used to kill pathogens, ivermectin can also easily be toxic to human life. Animal formulations, which are not FDA approved, usually contain higher concentrations and doses, making it much easier to get sick. But even human doses of ivermectin can have significant side effects and interactions. Not only are people poisoning themselves, there are now shortages of ivermectin for its legitimate uses and prices have skyrocketed.

Furthermore, the fixation on these false cures distracts from the tremendous achievement of Covid-19 vaccines, which we know not only prevent infection but also prevent disease severity in the way that ivermectin believers hope their drug will. I am a doctor and a scientist, and I desperately hope we discover more viable therapeutics for treatment of this pandemic. But here in the United States, we already have access to something much better: safe, effective, life-saving vaccines. Now we just need people to stop looking for false cures in the feed store and get vaccinated.
 

marsh

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German State Proposes Coronavirus Lockdown for the Unvaccinated
CUXHAVEN, GERMANY - MAY 23: A room cleaner disinfect a hotel balkony following the ease of pandemic lockdown measures on May 23, 2021 in Cuxhaven-Duhnen, Germany. Authorities are easing lockdown measures across Germany, enabling restaurants to offer outdoor service, hotels to accommodate tourists, cultural institutions to perform and other activities …
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The southern German state of Baden-Württemberg has proposed severe restrictions for unvaccinated people even if they can produce a negative coronavirus test, Bild am Sonntag reported Sunday.

“If 200 to 250 intensive care beds are occupied, we will consider introducing initial contact restrictions for unvaccinated adults,” said Uwe Lahl, head of the Ministry of Social Affairs in Baden-Württemberg.

If the measure passes, unvaccinated people will be denied access to restaurants or concerts even with a negative test, the magazine reported, and will be required to have limited contact with other people, as mandated during previous lockdowns.

“If it hits the intensive care units, you have to act,” said Thomas Strobl, Deputy Minister-President of Baden-Württemberg. “It would be wrong then to hold everyone jointly liable, including those who have been vaccinated — that is why there will be different rules for those who have not been vaccinated than for those who have been vaccinated.”


A supporter holds a placard with the lettering ‘Lockdown never again’ while attending a rally of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party for the launch of the electoral campaign ahead of the September 26 federal elections, in Schwerin, northern Germany. (JOHN MACDOUGALL/AFP via Getty)

Currently some 100 coronavirus patients are being treated in intensive care in Baden-Württemberg. According to the State Health Office, the limit proposed by Lahl could be reached in a week. At the height of the pandemic, over 600 coronavirus ICU patients were cared for in the state.

Bavarian Health Minister Klaus Holetschek has voiced support for the Baden-Württemberg proposal, insisting it is right to think about measures such as contact restrictions for the unvaccinated “to protect the health system.”
Others have asserted that the proposed measures are overly harsh and even unconstitutional.

“There are certainly milder measures than the proposed plan of blanket contact restrictions for unvaccinated people, such as tests,” said Wolfgang Kubicki, Vice President of the Bundestag and Vice Chairman of the Free Democratic Party (FDP), adding that if the state adopts the harsher measures, it acts unconstitutionally.
 

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Police, protesters clash as thousands march against COVID curbs in Berlin
Author of the article:
Reuters

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Publishing date:
Aug 28, 2021 • 1 day ago • 1 minute read • Join the conversation

BERLIN — Police tussled with protesters as thousands of people marched through Berlin on Saturday chanting slogans and waving banners against COVID-19 restrictions.

Some demonstrators tried to get past barricades to the government district around the Reichstag parliament building and clashed with officers, police said.

Four officers were injured, the Berliner Zeitung reported.

About 50 people were detained, some for assaulting officers, the force said.

The protesters, few of whom wore masks, waved banners marked with the messages “I have my own opinion” and “Covid-84” in a reference to George Orwell’s book “1984” about a totalitarian state.

The marches came a month before a federal election. The leading candidates vying to replace Chancellor Angela Merkel have pledged there will be no return to the strict lockdowns of last year and earlier this year.

The country has reported more than 3.9 million coronavirus cases and is facing a fourth wave of infections. It reported 10,303 new cases and 22 fatalities on Saturday, bringing the death toll to 92,096.

To nudge more people to get vaccinated, the government has said it will stop offering free tests from Oct. 11, except for those for whom vaccination is not recommended, such as children and pregnant women.

The government will require people to be vaccinated, test negative or have a recovery certificate to enter indoor restaurants, participate in religious ceremonies or do indoor sport. (Reporting by Reuters TV, writing by Emma Thomasson, editing by Andrew Heavens)
 

Dr. Ryan Marino Covid trends like ivermectin are deadly distractions. Why can't we stop them?
We need Americans to stop looking for false cures in the feed store — and just get vaccinated.

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Aug. 28, 2021, 2:00 AM PDT

By Dr. Ryan Marino, emergency physician and medical toxicologist
"You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it." This actual tweet from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration sounds better suited for an April Fool’s Day joke than for an actual federal health advisory posted just days before the FDA fully approved Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine for those 16 and older.

It’s easy to joke about ignorant or desperate people taking horse dewormers, but misinformation like this really is deadly. Hydroxychloroquine was used off-label by many around the world, with devastating results, and the same thing is now happening again.

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The internet was supposed to revolutionize how we share information. However, as we head into the second autumn of the pandemic with cases once again surging across the United States — despite a monumental vaccination effort — misinformation is still rampant. Risky coronavirus cures and unproven treatments, from hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to oleandrin and now ivermectin, prove an epidemic of science denial has flourished online.

Ivermectin is a medication widely used to treat parasitic infections in humans and animals. Some of the more common medical uses are against worms, mites and insects, like scabies and roundworms, and tropical diseases like river blindness. If you have a dog, you may know it as a heartworm medicine, and if you have livestock, like horses, cows and pigs, then you may know it as a deworming agent.

Ivermectin has shown antiviral effects at very high doses. However, it has never been proven to effectively treat or prevent viral infections in humans. Like much in vitro data, meaning research done on cell cultures in petri dishes, any positive findings have not been replicated in vivo in actual human subjects. And a quick look at this data suggests a reason why: The doses and concentrations necessary for antiviral activity are much higher than are safe for humans, and would be toxic to human life as well as viruses. If this sounds familiar it’s because the same misapplication of in vitro science has been used to promote hydroxychloroquine and disinfectants like bleach.



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Meanwhile, the human data on ivermectin tells a much different story. The available scientific evidence has consistently shown a lack of benefit in both treating and preventing Covid-19, and empiric evidence from widespread off-label use has objectively not made a difference. Notably, the only papers that showed any significant benefit for ivermectin have been retracted because they were fraudulent, but not before being shared hundreds of thousands of times around the world. The same disgraced Surgisphere server — a data sharing and analytics company that rose to prominence early in the pandemic — that posted fraudulent hydroxychloroquine science shared another fraudulent paper on ivermectin that set off this current craze.

That paper and Surgisphere no longer exist, but the damage is done. Another popularly shared study on ivermectin, which claimed to demonstrate better success than almost any other medical intervention in modern history, was also found to be falsified and was retracted. But again, only after being shared extensively online.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not. Some of the largest scale scientific efforts ever have involved the study of ivermectin in Covid-19. Another claim is that the pharmaceutical industry does not want to lose potential profits to a relatively cheap, older drug. This claim conveniently ignores the fact that one of the only drugs with good evidence for use in Covid-19 is dexamethasone, a cheap, old drug that has been implemented worldwide during this pandemic. Even the manufacturer of ivermectin, the pharmaceutical giant Merck, has released statements warning against the use of their product for coronavirus, citing safety and efficacy concerns.

The pro-ivermectin crowd would have you believe that the science on ivermectin is being “suppressed.” It is not.

Groups of contrarian physicians have emerged to promote “cures” without adding any evidence, and despite names like “America’s Front Line Doctors” and “Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance,” their members often do not work clinically — meaning they do not actually have credentials to practice medicine in any hospital settings — and do not treat Covid-19 patients. The founder of FLCCC, who is not currently affiliated with any health care institutions, recently disclosed that he and his family came down with coronavirus despite taking his unproven ivermectin protocol. The AFLD is actually selling ivermectin prescriptions online, a conflict of interest.

True believers have turned to livestock preparations, which can be obtained at feed stores and other places that sell animal supplies without a prescription and without any oversight. And now poison control centers across the country are being overwhelmed with calls related to this off-label ivermectin use, because like most drugs that are used to kill pathogens, ivermectin can also easily be toxic to human life. Animal formulations, which are not FDA approved, usually contain higher concentrations and doses, making it much easier to get sick. But even human doses of ivermectin can have significant side effects and interactions. Not only are people poisoning themselves, there are now shortages of ivermectin for its legitimate uses and prices have skyrocketed.

Furthermore, the fixation on these false cures distracts from the tremendous achievement of Covid-19 vaccines, which we know not only prevent infection but also prevent disease severity in the way that ivermectin believers hope their drug will. I am a doctor and a scientist, and I desperately hope we discover more viable therapeutics for treatment of this pandemic. But here in the United States, we already have access to something much better: safe, effective, life-saving vaccines. Now we just need people to stop looking for false cures in the feed store and get vaccinated.
Looks like I’ll be able to fertilize my garden for a couple years...
 
The same disgraced Surgisphere server — a data sharing and analytics company that rose to prominence early in the pandemic — that posted fraudulent hydroxychloroquine science shared another fraudulent paper on ivermectin that set off this current craze.
The SurgiSphere paper was actually a hit piece on HCQ, not promoting it as implied.
Any doubts as to these drugs working, Tyson and Fareed have treated over 6000, a cardiologist in Dominican Republic over 7000. India is just incredible with IVM.
 
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BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
There it is, in black and white. Any idea how long the present EUA socks will last, or how long until officially approved new stock becomes available?
:applaud: :applaud: EUA stocks will last as long as it takes because they can’t be held liable for emergency authorization. it’s a good trick, if they can continue to pull it off. And people wonder why we don’t buy their BS. From the super sensitive PCR tests to lies about masks stopping airborne viruses, just be honest for God's sake…:shk:

The SurgiSphere paper was actually a hit piece on HCQ, not promoting it as implied.
Any doubts as to these drugs working, Tyson and Fareed have treated over 6000, a cardiologist in Dominican Republic over 7000. India is just incredible with IVM.
:applaud::applaud: Just like the hit piece in the LANCET had to be pulled… :kaid:
 
Furthermore, the fixation on these false cures distracts from the tremendous achievement of Covid-19 vaccines, which we know not only prevent infection but also prevent disease severity in the way that ivermectin believers hope their drug will. I am a doctor and a scientist, and I desperately hope we discover more viable therapeutics for treatment of this pandemic. But here in the United States, we already have access to something much better: safe, effective, life-saving vaccines. Now we just need people to stop looking for false cures in the feed store and get vaccinated.
Four Pinocchio’s.
 
:applaud: :applaud: EUA stocks will last as long as it takes because they can’t be held liable for emergency authorization. it’s a good trick, if they can continue to pull it off. And people wonder why we don’t buy their BS. From the super sensitive PCR tests to lies about masks stopping airborne viruses, just be honest for God's sake…:shk:


:applaud::applaud: Just like the hit piece in the LANCET had to be pulled… :kaid:
That was the SurgiSphere HCQ paper. There was another one for IVM, I don’t know anything about that one.
 

Jaybird

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My aunt who is a cancer survivor and her family caught the rona as well as my sister and her family. They gave my sister and her family Ivermectin at the hospital. Three days and they were good to go. My aunt and her family took the horse wormer. Same thing. Two to three days they were good. The rest of my family including my 94 year old grandfather have been taking the wormer prophetically from the start and none of us has got it yet as far as we know. It is beyond criminal for our government to do this to us. I travel a lot and have talked to a lot of people about it. There are more people self medicating than you know. Screw big pharma.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Well, I’ll wait for the actual Pfizer that is fully approved to reconsider. Won’t hold my breathe though, I don’t want to end up stuck in a vent..
In the meantime, I’m hoping to get in my order of Ivermectin from ADC. I’ll store it with the D3/Zinc/Lipo C and Quercetin and follow the FLCCC Alliance protocols if necessary. Thank the Lord in Florida it looks like you can also get a Regeneron infusion as well, beats the hell of testing positive and then you go home and take Ibuprofen…. :kaid:
 
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