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Florida adds 5,511 coronavirus cases as weekly death average ticks upward
Tampa Bay area saw record-high increases in Hillsborough and Pinellas County

By Romy Ellenbogen
Published Yesterday | Updated Yesterday

Wednesday was yet another grim day of shattered records in Tampa Bay and around the state.

Florida logged a new record for single-day recorded coronavirus cases, adding 5,511 infections on Wednesday and bringing the state total to 109,014. The previous record was Saturday, when the state logged 4,049 new coronavirus infections.

In the Tampa Bay area, Hillsborough’s positive cases hit a single-day high Wednesday of 716 new infections. Pinellas County also broke its record with 354 new cases.

Hospitalizations statewide also increased by 251 people on Wednesday, higher than in previous days. The increase is the seventh-largest since the pandemic began, with higher single-day increases recorded in April and May.

The record cases come on a day when news reports emerged that a second Florida teen had died from COVID-19, a 17-year-old girl in Fort Myers. The first to die was a 17-year-old boy from Pasco County who has not yet been publicly identified.

Florida’s surge in cases also prompted some states like New York and New Jersey to issue new travel restrictions on visitors coming from areas of the country where coronavirus cases are surging.

As cases have risen, Gov. Ron DeSantis has emphasized that the median age of those testing positive is trending younger, typically between 33 to 37.

While the bulk of coronavirus deaths are people ages 65 and older, younger people have been hospitalized because of the virus. Fifteen percent of all the state’s coronavirus-related hospitalizations have come from people 25 to 44, according to data from the health department.

How fast is the number of Florida COVID-19 cases growing?

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What’s the picture in the state?

Florida has been tracking coronavirus cases for nearly four months but about 27 percent of all infections have come in just the past seven days. Wednesday was the ninth consecutive day with a new caseload above 2,000 and the 16th day in a row above 1,000.

An estimated 1.67 million Floridians, about 8 percent of the state’s population, have been tested for the virus since the beginning of March.

Testing increased sharply in mid-May, but fell at May’s end. It has remained steady through June with an average of about 26,000 to 28,000 tests done each day.

The state recorded 44 new deaths. Statewide, 3,377 people have died from the virus.

The spike on Wednesday came as New York, New Jersey and Connecticut announced that travelers from states with spiking infection rates would have to quarantine for 14 days.

In Florida, travelers from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are still required to self-isolate for two weeks upon arrival, per a March executive order from DeSantis.

While DeSantis has highlighted that people who are now testing positive are less at risk for critical illness because they tend to be younger, the virus can lead to the death of young people, too.

A Fort Myers 17-year-old died from from COVID-19 on Tuesday, according to news accounts. Carsyn Davis was admitted to a children’s hospital on Friday. Two days later, on her 17th birthday, she was admitted to the intensive care unit and diagnosed with COVID-19. On Monday she was airlifted to receive more intensive care, and on Tuesday she died.

A 17-year-old from Pasco County has also died from the virus, according to state data.

Is Florida’s coronavirus outbreak still growing?

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What’s the picture in the Tampa Bay area?


Hillsborough and Pinellas counties saw record-breaking single-day coronavirus cases on Wednesday, and both counties now have mask orders in place to help stop community spread of the virus.

Pasco also had a larger than normal increase of 130 cases. In total, the eight Tampa Bay-area counties added 1,521 cases on Wednesday — about 28 percent of Florida’s new cases for the day.

The area recorded seven new deaths, with three in Pinellas, two in Hillsborough and two in Polk counties.

On Tuesday, Pinellas added 13 recorded deaths in one day, the worst day for any county in the Tampa Bay area since the pandemic began.

Newly identified deaths include Hillsborough women age 96, 91 and 43, Pinellas men age 76 and 63, an 84-year-old Pinellas woman, an 89-year-old Polk woman and a 65-year-old Polk man.

As of the latest counts, Hillsborough has 6,892 cases and 124 deaths; Pinellas has 4,387 cases and 134 deaths; Polk has 2,454 cases and 81 deaths; Manatee has 2,132 cases and 129 deaths; Pasco has 1,084 cases and 18 deaths; Citrus has 219 cases and 12 deaths; and Hernando has 218 cases and six deaths.

Florida coronavirus cases by age group

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Doctors say older people are at a greater risk to developing severe symptoms from COVID-19, which makes Florida especially vulnerable.

How does coronavirus data differ based on race?

The majority of Florida’s deaths, hospitalizations and cases have been among white people, but data shows there’s still a race disparity.

Black people make up 16 percent of the state’s total population, according to the latest U.S. Census Bureau data, but 18 percent of all coronavirus cases in Florida have been among African Americans. Black patients make up 26 percent of all hospitalizations and 21 percent of deaths.

Hispanic people make up 34 percent of coronavirus cases in Florida, 35 percent of hospitalizations and 25 percent of deaths.

In the Tampa Bay area, it also appears there are disparities in race and coronavirus cases. Black people make up about 10 percent of Pinellas County’s population, but are about 23 percent of the county’s cases and hospitalizations. In Hillsborough, African Americans make up about 17 percent of the population, but are 30 percent of the county’s virus-related hospitalizations and 24 percent of its deaths.

Some public health experts have emphasized that focusing on racial disparities is key to controlling and managing the spread of the virus.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Brazil registers 42,725 new cases of coronavirus, 1,185 deaths
June 24, 2020 / 5:21 PM / Updated 8 hours ago

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazil recorded 42,725 new confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus in the past 24 hours as well as 1,185 new deaths resulting from the disease, the country’s Health Ministry said on Wednesday.

Brazil has registered nearly 1.2 million cases since the pandemic began, while cumulative deaths total 53,830, according to the ministry.


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Coronavirus deaths soar in Latin America and the Caribbean, with Brazil hit hardest
June 24, 2020 / 5:47 AM

Montevideo, Uruguay — Latin America and the Caribbean on Tuesday surpassed 100,000 coronavirus deaths, more than half of them in Brazil, according to an AFP count based on official figures.

The pandemic is accelerating across the region, which now has a total of 2.1 million cases, with Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Chile the most affected countries.

Brazil has the second-highest COVID-19 death toll in the world, after the United States, at more than 52,640 fatalities out of 1,145,906 confirmed cases.

Alexandre Naime Barbosa, a medical professor at São Paulo State University, told the Reuters news agency last week that the true number of coronavirus cases in Brazil may actually be much higher, "because there is under-reporting of a magnitude of 5 to 10 times... The true number is probably at least 3 million and could even be as high as 10 million people."

A federal judge ordered Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who has famously compared the coronavirus to a "little flu," to wear a face mask in public, after the far-right leader repeatedly flouted containment measures in place in Brasilia.

"The president has a constitutional obligation to follow the laws in force in the country, as well as to promote the general welfare of the people," the judge wrote.

Mexico, also heavily hit by the virus, was struck Tuesday by a powerful 7.4 magnitude earthquake.

The quake hit as the country of 127 million people recorded its highest number of coronavirus cases in a 24-hour period, with 6,288 new infections, according to the Ministry of Health.

Peru, meanwhile, exceeded 260,000 coronavirus cases, as it marked 100 days under mandatory lockdown and received a donation of 250 ventilators from the United States.

Its neighbor to the north, Colombia, extended its quarantine Tuesday until July 15, as its coronavirus cases continue to climb. The country has registered 2,404 deaths out of more than 73,500 cases.

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naegling62

Veteran Member
I thought I'd give y'all a heads up on my latest discussion with my DR. friend.

Biggest news is what many may know but it's on the fringe of reporting, is that they are seeing serious rapid cognitive decline in 50% of patients over 60 years old. Not good at all folks especially those who don't take the virus seriously. This is due to the multitude of micro strokes.

Secondarily, he was very concerned about this whole thing back in February and March. The end of April though May he thought we could possibly get through this thing with it not being a cataclysm. Now? He really is concerned about the USA being on the precipice of an Italian level event due to the recent actions of the vacation crowd, rioters/protesters and anti maskers.

He is worried again for his own safety. Buckle up folks, we're officially in the backside of the 1st wave now.
 

marsh

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The U.S. just saw a record 45,557 new coronavirus cases in a single day
•Jun 25, 2020


CNBC Television


The U.S. saw a record number of new coronavirus cases in a single day, with 45,557 diagnoses reported Wednesday, according to a tally by NBC News. Wednesday's cases top the previous highest daily count from April 26 — during the first peak of the pandemic in the U.S. — by more than 9,000 cases, according to NBC News' tracking data.

Arizona, Florida, California and Nevada reported record spikes in confirmed Covid-19 cases on Friday as states continue their phased reopenings and ramp up testing.

The Arizona Department of Health Services reported 3,246 new positive cases, exceeding Thursday’s single-day high of 2,519 cases.

Florida health officials added 3,822 new cases Friday morning, surpassing the state’s previous single-day high of 3,207 cases also reported on Thursday.

California officials reported 4,317 new cases Friday that were confirmed on Thursday, topping the previous record of 4,084 reported on Thursday.

The Nevada Department of Health and Human Services reported 410 new cases Friday afternoon, breaking its previous single-day high of 379 from Monday.

More states are reporting record-setting daily numbers of Covid-19 cases as infections spread at a rapid pace. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention expanded its list of states where Covid-19 deaths are expected to accelerate over the next four weeks compared with the past four weeks. The list now includes Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Hawaii, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina and Utah.

While some state and federal leaders have attributed the rise in the number of confirmed coronavirus cases to increase in testing, many are seeing a climb in hospitalizations. This metric, like new cases and deaths, is also considered an important measure of an outbreak because it helps health officials gauge how severe it may be.
 
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State efforts to now fight Covid-19 will take two weeks to slow spread
•Jun 25, 2020


CNBC Television


The governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut said Wednesday visitors coming from certain high-risk states should self-quarantine for 14 days after coming to the area.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, member of the boards of Pfizer, Tempus and biotech company Illumina and former FDA commissioner, joins "Squawk Box" to discuss the effort to prevent further spread of the virus. Any policy changes that hot spot states like Texas and Florida decide to implement now likely won’t affect the spread of the coronavirus for weeks to come, former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC on Thursday. Due to the lag in how long it takes once someone is infected to develop symptoms, get tested and receive results, a confirmed case today could reflect an infection that occurred up to three weeks ago, Gottlieb said.

He added that even if states currently struggling with outbreaks implemented more stringent measures, cases would continue to rise for some time. “I think it’s going to be difficult now to get this under control,” Gottlieb said on “Squawk Box.” “

Whatever these states do right now is really going to help them in about two weeks, maybe a little bit longer than that. Whatever policy decisions they made a week or two ago, that’s what we’re seeing flow through right now.”

California, Florida and Texas all reported record high single-day jumps in new cases on Wednesday. California reported 7,149 new cases on Wednesday, bringing the state’s total to 190,222, according to the state’s health department. Florida reported 5,508 new cases Wednesday, shattering the previous record single-day increase and bringing the state’s total to 109,014, according to the state’s health department. And Texas reported 5,551 new cases Wednesday, bringing its total to 125,921 confirmed cases.

In New York City, which had been the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak, officials issued a stay-at-home order on March 20. But daily new cases did not peak until April 6, when the city reported 6,376 new cases, according to the city’s health department.

“So we know that there’s a delay between the implementation of policy and actually affecting the scope of the epidemic,” Gottlieb said. “The next week or two is largely baked in terms of what impact you can have on it from policy, so they need to start thinking a little bit longer term, where they think they’re going to be in two weeks based on the current trajectory and start implementing policy to try to affect that.”

Governors in Florida and Texas, as well as some other states that have reported signs of an expanding epidemic, have expressed doubt about ordering businesses to close again or placing more restrictions on individuals. Neither Texas nor Florida has implemented statewide mask mandates, but both recently allowed local and city officials to issue such orders for their residents.

“They’re not going to shut down their economies. It’s very clear,” Gottlieb said. “They’re going to weather this, but they need to look at some selected shut downs of congregate settings like, perhaps, bars.”

While national attention remains on the states reporting the largest spikes in new cases, Gottlieb said outbreaks now appear to be worsening in several other states as well, including Georgia, Alabama and Arkansas. Officials in those states might begin to implement restrictions again if their hospital systems begin to face pressure, Gottlieb said. “This isn’t just confined to a handful of states anymore,” he said. “When the hospitals start to get pressed, they’re going to press policymakers to try to take steps to mitigate the burden on the health-care systems.”

While governors in Florida and Texas have said there is plenty of statewide hospital capacity, some particularly hard-hit parts of those states are beginning to approach capacity. In Houston, for example, Texas Children’s Hospital said this week it will begin to admit adult patients to alleviate burdened hospitals.
 

marsh

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US Coronavirus Cases Hit New Record For A Single Day; Texas ICUs Near Capacity | TODAY
•Jun 25, 2020


TODAY
Overnight the nation saw a new record for new coronavirus cases in a single day, 45,000, and there were record numbers of hospitalizations across the Sun Belt. NBC’s Sam Brock reports for TODAY from Houston, one of the hardest-hit cities in Texas.

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Arizona Hospitals Face Crisis As US Coronavirus Cases Surge To New Levels | TODAY
•Jun 25, 2020


TODAY

The coronavirus is surging across the Sun Belt, setting new records in Texas, Arizona and Florida. NBC’s Joe Fryer reports for TODAY from Scottsdale, Arizona, where hospitals are facing a dire situation.

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Coronavirus Surge ‘Is Not Just About More Testing,’ Doctor Says | TODAY
•Jun 25, 2020


TODAY

Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, tells TODAY that the surge in U.S. coronavirus cases has come “because we opened up too quickly and we opened up without the right safeguards in place.” He adds, “we have very good evidence that this is not just about more testing,” and calls for states with surges to impose public mask laws and do more testing and tracing.
 

marsh

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New York, New Jersey And Connecticut Impose Quarantine On Visitors From Hot Spots | TODAY
•Jun 25, 2020


TODAY
As the nation sees new records for the coronavirus, former hot spots New York, New Jersey and Connecticut have imposed a 14-day quarantine on visitors from current hot spots such as Florida, where the single-day record for new cases has been shattered. NBC’s Kerry Sanders reports for TODAY from Tampa.
 

marsh

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14:46 min
102 - What Does It Mean to Call Racism a Public Health Issue?

•Jun 25, 2020


Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Public health’s focus on the root causes of disease and injury mean the intersecting crises of COVID-19 and racism provide a critical opportunity for the field. Dr. Georges Benjamin, the executive director of the American Public Health Association, talks with Dr. Josh Sharfstein about the sector’s reckoning with reality around naming, defining, and addressing racism as a critical public health problem.

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5:24 min
BONUS - The Harassment of Public Health Officials in COVID-19
•Jun 25, 2020


Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Healt

COVID-19 has seen unprecedented harassment of state and local health officials. In a bonus episode, Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, talks with Dr. Josh Sharfstein about the threats facing public health officials in the pandemic.
 

marsh

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29:10 min
Longer term issues
•Jun 25, 2020


Dr. John Campbell

Sequelae https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectio... https://www.who.int/docs/default-sour... https://covid19.joinzoe.com/post/covi... One in ten are sick for three weeks or more COVID-19, short term illness caused by SARS-CoV-2 Most health sources, people will recover within two weeks Some people report symptoms from 3 weeks to months https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-1...

Trigger diabetes? https://www.nature.com/articles/d4158... Several anecdotal reports of spontaneous diabetes mellitus type 1 after COVID infection Evidence of beta cell damage in vitro and small animal studies Direct or indirect damage Insulin lack Weight loss, thirst, polyuria Tiredness, blurred vision, local infections, ketosis

Pulmonary fibrosis https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la... Symptoms associated with acute COVID-19, mild upper respiratory tract symptoms to severe acute respiratory distress syndrome Data from SARS and MERS Emerging data from the COVID-19 pandemic Could be substantial fibrotic consequences following SARS-CoV-2 infection Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis Antifibrotic therapies, possible role in treatment Might have a role in preventing fibrosis after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Neurology https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti... Around a third of ITU patients admitted for respiratory difficulties exhibit neurologic symptoms ? hypoxia ? inflammation ? SARS-CoV-2 dissemination into brain parenchyma CoV infection can potentially lead to chronic neuroinflammation and progressive demyelination Sensorimotor dysfunctions Psychiatric disorders Brain cell degeneration and demyelination
 

marsh

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58:23 min
War Room Pandemic Ep 249 - Burn it Down
•Streamed live 5 hours ago


Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republic

Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxey, and Greg Manz discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the tearing down of monuments persists and the movement to defund the police gains steam in the House of Representatives.

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War Room Pandemic Ep 250 - A Red Contagion (w/ Maria Luisa Rossi-Hawkins and Joel Etienne)
•Streamed live 4 hours ago


Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republic


Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxey, and Greg Manz discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the Chinese Communist Party looks to Italy and Canada to expand their influence into the West. Calling in is Maria Luisa Rossi-Hawkins to discuss the situation in Italy. Also calling is Joel Etienne to give an update about the CCP's latest dust up in Canada.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
For those taking zinc/quercetin daily as a preventative, how much zinc are you taking? Medcram says not to take over 40 mg on a daily basis long term but it seems like most of the zinc for sale is 50 mg doses. Also how much will you take if sick? I think Zelenko says 220mg.
 

marsh

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Webinar – Special Edition BPEA 2020: COVID-19 and the Economy
•Started streaming 5 hours ago


Brookings Institution
Join Brookings on June 25 for a conference to discuss new research in these critical areas. While BPEA conferences are usually small, invitation-only gatherings, Brookings is opening its proceedings this month to anyone who wishes to observe the vanguard of economic thought around urgent public health and the global economic issues.
 

marsh

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US sees 3rd highest day in new COVID-19 cases l ABC News
•Jun 25, 2020


ABC News

New cases are on the rise in 27 states and states from Arizona to Mississippi are facing strains on their hospital systems.

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Florida hits 1-day record for new COVID-19 cases
•Jun 24, 2020


ABC News

ABC News’ Victor Oquendo reports on how the state is dealing with the virus as cases continue to surge.
 
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marsh

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2:57 min
Some states pause reopening after concerning surge in Covid-19 cases
•Jun 25, 2020


CNBC Television


CNBC's Meg Tirrell reports the latest numbers regarding the Covid-19 hot spots popping up around the United States.

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1:02 min
Texas pauses reopening plan as coronavirus cases spike
•Jun 25, 2020


CNBC Television


CNBC's Meg Tirrell reports on the news from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott that the state will pause its reopening plan due to a surge in new cases and hospitalizations.
 
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marsh

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5:02 min
Young adults fueling coronavirus surge in several southern and western states
•Jun 25, 2020


CBS This Morning

Coronavirus cases are surging to record levels and threatening hospital capacity in several states more than five months after the first confirmed illness in the United States. CBS News medical contributor Dr. David Agus explains what's fueling the surge and what can be done to slow it down.

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4:26 min
Tri-state area imposes mandatory quarantine on travelers from coronavirus hotspots as cases rise
•Jun 24, 2020


CBS Evening News

As coronavirus cases continue to climb across the country, New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are now requiring visitors from nine states to self-quarantine for 14 days or risk a $1,000 fine. Meanwhile, California Governor Gavin Newsom is prepared to reverse the state’s reopening. Manuel Bojorquez reports.
 

marsh

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6:36 min
India launches mass testing in Delhi +++ US cases surge | Coronavirus update
•Jun 25, 2020


DW News

Indian authorities are launching a massive coronavirus survey of the entire population of the capital Delhi. That's 29 million people, and the aim is to test everyone with symptoms by July 6. Delhi has become the worst-hit city in India, with more than 70,000 cases. Police will be deployed to enforce physical distancing and prevent the mixing of the population in the city's 266 containment zones. India as a whole has again confirmed a record increase in COVID-19 deaths in the last 24 hours. The US has recorded its biggest daily increase in cases since April. New infections are climbing sharply in several states, including Texas, Florida and Arizona. The governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut have now ordered travelers from virus hotspots to quarantine for two weeks on arrival.
 

marsh

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Airlines losing billions of dollars as coronavirus curtails travel
•Jun 25, 2020


CBS News

The coronavirus pandemic continues to wreak havoc on the airline industry. The International Air Transport Association predicts airlines will lose at least $84 billion in 2020. The agency's director general and CEO, Alexandre De Juniac, joined CBSN to discuss how airlines are dealing with the effects of the pandemic.
 

amarah

Contributing Member
For those taking zinc/quercetin daily as a preventative, how much zinc are you taking? Medcram says not to take over 40 mg on a daily basis long term but it seems like most of the zinc for sale is 50 mg doses. Also how much will you take if sick? I think Zelenko says 220mg.

I was wondering this as well.Also re:quercetin,is it safe to take daily and in what dose?I can't find any studies either which would give you an idea how well it worked compared to hydrochloroquine and what dose would be comparable to hcq to get the zinc into the cell.
 

compchyk

The Computer Chyck
For the first time in my life (and I have worked on every GOP campaign since Reagan) I am voting Biden! And Trump publicly named me as an advisor and I worked on the campaign for the early days. He needs to go to save us from COVID.
ok I believe in free choice HOWEVER exactly what or how do you believe that with him being gone and out we're going to be saved from COVID? I want to see your aspect to a resolution of the Covid problem...
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I was wondering this as well.Also re:quercetin,is it safe to take daily and in what dose?I can't find any studies either which would give you an idea how well it worked compared to hydrochloroquine and what dose would be comparable to hcq to get the zinc into the cell.


Nor, do I believe, will you find a study which tells you that.

Do you think that Pharmaceutical companies would be anxious to prove the efficacy of an over the counter supplement, especially in an environment where they won't even allow the use of HCQ? (in the US, at least...)

Perhaps not, when there are such riches at stake.

Quercetin was tested, iirc, against Ebola with some promise, in somewhat large doses. The link is somewhere in this thread, well back.

Perhaps it was MedCram #35 by Dr. Sehult.


ETA: I do not know if Quercetin is 'effective', and I am not suggesting anyone should use it. It showed promise as a Zinc Ionaphore, which is the suspected reason that HCQ+Zinc may be providing such interesting results elsewhere in the world... In other words, there are indications that it may provide some assistance, along with Zinc, Vit. D, Vit. C, N-Acytel Cystine (N-AC), Elderberry and Selenium; each has been discussed at length in this thread, long time back...

It may be all we've got at the moment, unless your last name is 'Trump', your first name is 'Donald', and you live somewhere on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Standard Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor, nor a medical professional; I'm not offering advice or recommendations, if you find anything I post interesting in any way you must, MUST, MUST do your own research to your own satisfaction, and utilize said info at your own risk, Your Milage May Vary, etc. etc. yadda yadda and etc.

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marsh

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48:52 min
Covid-19: Is The Worst Behind Us?
•Premiered 2 hours ago


Peak Prosperity
Data is increasingly suggesting that the first wave of covid-19 in a country (or state) is the worst. The most people get infected during that initial period, as expected with a virus with an R0 this high.

Many US states are still in their first waves, especially those in the South and West seeing re-surging infections. The battle there remains focused on preventing things from getting out of control and overwhelming the medical system. But it's possible that previously hard hit areas like New York, Italy and Spain may now have sufficient immunity to avoid a second wave. It's too soon to know for certain, but if true, this will be very welcome news.

Similarly encouraging is that we now have a better handle medically on how to treat covid patients successfully with early intervention (Tocilizumab, Anakina and, yes, HCQ+). So further outbreaks can hopefully quelled earlier and with fewer mortalities. Reason to hope? Yes. Can we let our guard down now? Absoultuely not.

________________________ LINKS FROM THIS VIDEO: Needless US deaths https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/f... HCQ+ works when given early https://www.sciencedirect.com/science... Infections 80 times greater than reported?https://news.psu.edu/story/623797/202... Tocilizumab works https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la... Anakinra works https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...

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marsh

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Mounting clues suggest the coronavirus might trigger diabetes
Evidence from tissue studies and some people with COVID-19 shows that the virus damages insulin-producing cells.

Smriti Mallapaty
Bottle of Insulin injection with a syringe on black table and stainless steel background.

People with type 1 diabetes can't produce the hormone insulin.Credit: Bernard Chantal/Alamy

In mid-April, Finn Gnadt, an 18-year-old student from Kiel, Germany, learnt that he had been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus despite feeling well. Gnadt’s parents had fallen ill after a river cruise in Austria, so his family was tested for virus antibodies, which are produced in response to infection.
Gnadt thought he had endured the infection unscathed, but days later, he started to feel worn out and exceedingly thirsty. In early May, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, and his physician, Tim Hollstein at the University Hospital Schleswig-Holstein in Kiel, suggested that the sudden onset might be linked to the viral infection.

In most people with type 1 diabetes, the body’s immune cells start destroying β-cells — which are responsible for producing the hormone insulin — in the pancreas, often suddenly. In Gnadt’s case, Hollstein suspected that the virus had destroyed his β-cells, because his blood didn’t contain the types of immune cells that typically damage the pancreatic islets where the β-cells live.



Diabetes is already known to be a key risk factor for developing severe COVID-191 and people with the condition are more likely to die2. “Diabetes is dynamite if you get COVID-19,” says Paul Zimmet, who studies the metabolic disease at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

Now Zimmet is among a growing number of researchers who think that diabetes doesn’t just make people more vulnerable to the coronavirus, but that the virus might also trigger diabetes in some3. “Diabetes itself is a pandemic just like the COVID-19 pandemic. The two pandemics could be clashing,” he says.

Growing evidence

Their hunch is based on a handful of people such as Gnadt, who have spontaneously developed diabetes4 after being infected with SARS-CoV-2, and on evidence from dozens more people with COVID-19 who have arrived in hospital with extremely high levels of blood sugar and ketones5, which are produced from fatty deposits in the liver. When the body doesn’t make enough insulin to break down sugar, it uses ketones as an alternative source of fuel. “In science, sometimes you have to start off with very small evidence to chase a hypothesis,” says Zimmet.

Researchers cite other evidence, too. Various viruses, including the one that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), have been linked with autoimmune conditions such as type 1 diabetes6. And many organs involved in controlling blood sugar are rich in a protein called ACE2, which SARS-CoV-2 uses to infect cells7.

The latest clue comes from an experimental study in miniature lab-grown pancreases published last week8 suggests that the virus might trigger diabetes by damaging the cells that control blood sugar.



But other researchers are cautious about such suggestions. “We need to keep an eye on diabetes rates in those with prior COVID-19, and determine if rates go up over and above expected levels,” says Naveed Sattar, a metabolic-disease researcher at the University of Glasgow, UK.

To establish a link, researchers need more robust evidence, says Abd Tahrani, a clinician–scientist at the University of Birmingham, UK. “Well-constructed epidemiological cohort studies and mechanistic and experimental studies are needed,” he says.

Diabetes database

One initiative is now under way. Earlier this month, an international group of scientists, including Zimmet, established a global database3 to collect information on people with COVID-19 and high blood-sugar levels who do not have a history of diabetes or problems controlling their blood sugar.

Cases are beginning to trickle in, says Stefan Bornstein, a physician at the Technical University of Dresden, Germany, who also helped to establish the registry. The researchers hope to use the cases to understand whether SARS-CoV-2 can induce type 1 diabetes or a new form of the disease. And they want to investigate whether the sudden-onset diabetes becomes permanent in people who’ve had COVID-19. They also want to know whether the virus can tip people who were already on their way to developing type 2 diabetes into a diabetic state.

The study in pancreatic organoids shows how SARS-CoV-2 could be damaging the organ8. Shuibing Chen, a stem-cell biologist at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York City, and her colleagues showed that the virus can infect the organoid’s α- and β-cells, some of which then die. Whereas β-cells produce insulin to decrease blood-sugar levels, α-cells produce the hormone glucagon, which increases blood sugar. The virus can also induce the production of proteins known as chemokines and cytokines, which can trigger an immune response that might also kill the cells, according to the study8 published in Cell Stem Cell on 19 June.

Chen says the experiments suggest that the virus can disrupt the function of key cells involved in diabetes — either by directly killing them or by triggering an immune response that attacks them.

The virus also attacked pancreatic organoids that had been transplanted into mice, and cells in liver organoids. The liver is important for storing and releasing sugar into the blood stream when it senses insulin.

The organoid study8 adds strength to the argument that SARS-CoV-2 might cause or worsen diabetes, but the paper itself is not enough to prove the link, says Tahrani.

There could be more going on than some scientists suggest, says Shane Grey, an immunologist at the Garvan Institute of Medical Research in Sydney, Australia. The virus could trigger an extreme inflammatory state, which would impair the ability of the pancreas to sense glucose and release insulin, and dampen the ability of the liver and muscles to detect the hormone, he says. This could trigger diabetes.

Fatigue and muscle loss caused by severe infection can also push people at risk of the condition into a pre-diabetic state, says Sattar. Only long-term studies will reveal what’s really going on, he says.

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I thought I'd give y'all a heads up on my latest discussion with my DR. friend.

Biggest news is what many may know but it's on the fringe of reporting, is that they are seeing serious rapid cognitive decline in 50% of patients over 60 years old. Not good at all folks especially those who don't take the virus seriously. This is due to the multitude of micro strokes.

Secondarily, he was very concerned about this whole thing back in February and March. The end of April though May he thought we could possibly get through this thing with it not being a cataclysm. Now? He really is concerned about the USA being on the precipice of an Italian level event due to the recent actions of the vacation crowd, rioters/protesters and anti maskers.

He is worried again for his own safety. Buckle up folks, we're officially in the backside of the 1st wave now.

Thank you for your report. I agree with your DR friend. I think we are just now seeing what we would've seen in April-May had we not done the lockdowns. Unfortunately all the good done then is going to be undone in a very quick fashion and imho a lot of people are going to be shocked at how bad it can get. No evidence for that,and I'm not a dr, it's just my impression.

This whole thing is going to blow up in the worst way possible.
Yep.
Btw, how are you feeling. You are still in my prayers for a complete recovery.

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For the first time in my life (and I have worked on every GOP campaign since Reagan) I am voting Biden! And Trump publicly named me as an advisor and I worked on the campaign for the early days. He needs to go to save us from COVID.

Where did that come from?!

I agree, Trump is not doing a good job with COVID, I've been a somewhat vocal critic on here about that. BUT NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS would that prevent me from voting for him. He's a businessman, not a scientist; he's human, he's not perfect. And he's our last chance. I don't care how bad he is screwing this up - I do not want a communist America and that's what you'll get if you don't do everything you can to keep Trump in office. Do not surrender this nation to Biden and the globalist communists no matter how disappointed you may be over his handling of the virus.

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