CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Melodi

Disaster Cat
At the moment, personally I am more concerned with the combination of the effects of a Pandemic disease and a collapsing world economy (which was already ready to start, it just got a fast-forward button) than I am genetic variations of intersexed individuals (science again).

I personally don't KNOW if the lower infection rates are because so much of the Industralizized world DID go into lockdown or if it just isn't as dangerous for most people as it seemed at first and/or what percentage of "collateral damage" (aka deaths and disability) are acceptable?

I didn't totally agree with the Atlantic Article but it made some good points and folks in several states are going to be guinea pigs - since Germany looks like may already be forced to close things down again just as they re-opened, I think those States need to pay really good attention to their actual infection numbers (good or bad) to avoid becoming Ecuador, Brazil or Northern Italy.

I do agree that at some point, such experiments have to be done (lower lockdown in some places and some people get back to work) but there has to be mental and physical preparation for outcomes that someone isn't going to like and I mean everyone when I saw that.

Some people won't like it if the number shoot up and things have to be locked down again and/or some people won't like it if the outcome turns out not to be that bad after all, that what really needs to happen is for certain groups to be protected and it would be better if social programs and society made that possible.

I don't know the answer yet, and I'm not sure anyone else - scientist or not, really does either.
 

PanBear

Veteran Member
CBS This Morning
New Age of Innovation
Mobile barriers, thermal-imaging helmets: Inventors get creative to keep people safe

The race to find solutions during the coronavirus pandemic has led to a new age of innovation. Nifty gadgets like hooks to open doors and keep hands germ-free have popped up to keep people safe during their day-to-day lives. Some places around the world have implemented high-tech inventions, including a thermal-imaging helmet to detect body temperature to help police in Dubai detect a fever -- a possible symptom of COVID-19.

video 4:16 min – April 29, 2020
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyAVzJvV7xo
 

joannita

Veteran Member
Interesting. Incubation period of more than 30 days. That means there are plenty of infected people who aren't going to show up until after most places reopen, but aren't being figured into the calculation of whether to reopen. I suspect it's even longer than 30 days in some cases.

HD
Is it that, or were there non-symptomatic sailors on board, and finally someone showed symptoms?
 

jward

passin' thru
Is it that, or were there non-symptomatic sailors on board, and finally someone showed symptoms?
Yes, Or asymptomatic sailor(s) infected others who subsequently exhibit symptoms. The totality of our experiences at this point would favor these explanations i think, as we've well documented the existence of asymptomatic spreaders.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't believe asymptomatic exist. I believe light cases exist and false positives exists. . I don't know if I've gone 14 days my entire life without one of the CCP viruses dozens of symptoms.
The idea that the virus only means high fever and a cough needs to be removed from our conscious. It's long been proven that many people don't have those symptoms.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Study: 4 Indiana counties on verge of becoming coronavirus hotspots
by: FOX59 Web
Posted: Apr 30, 2020 / 05:41 AM EDT / Updated: Apr 30, 2020 / 08:25 AM EDT

A study suggests four Indiana counties may be on the verge of becoming coronavirus hotspots as the state considers taking the first steps to slowly reopen the economy.
The analysis from technology firm Dataminr used artificial intelligence to scour through posts on several social media platforms. According to Fortune, several governments and companies use Dataminr’s technology to look for trends and predict emerging events—including the World Health Organization and the United Nations.
You can find the study here.
According to Dataminr, new emerging hotspots include the following Indiana counties:
  • Monroe County
  • St. Joseph County
  • Tippecanoe County
  • Vigo County
Dataminr’s software accurately forecast infection hotspots in 14 states between a week and two weeks before those areas saw exponential growth in cases, the company said in a March study.
Dataminr is also projecting hotspots in Georgia, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas—states that have eased or are considering easing social distancing protocols. Its data showed while COVID-19 is peaking in cities, smaller metro and rural areas could get hit next.
The company said it accurately predicted spikes in cases for places like Italy, South Korea and Spain.

Here’s what the company said about its methodology on the study:
Dataminr’s AI Platform detected social media COVID-19 clusters comprised of public social media posts ranging from people indicating they tested positive, people indicating they are experiencing symptoms, people indicating they have been exposed but not tested, first-hand accounts of confirmed cases from relatives, friends, and colleagues as well as COVID-19 related supply shortages and closures.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? He's been pushing Remsdesivir from Day 1. Even when the news was bad and the stock crashed. And he's been dismissing hydroxichloriquine for almost as long. It may not even be a personal stake, it could just be a 'favor' to friends, companies who work well for him, etc. Who knows... :shr:

HD
I was thinking this same thing. He may not personally own stocks or anything like that, but he may be dealing with people behind the scenes who have promised to pull strings and get him grant money etc if he pushes a certain drug.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Lots of folks get great board jobs paying fat loot....I suspect that will be his payoff. A few boards, a book or two, the talk shows, the view, etc............. likely CNN gig too. And a great deal on a second home somewhere nice...
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
1 America is bigger than New York city.

2. those antibody tests actually find all corona viruses and have a false positive or up to 7%

3 America isn't sweden. We need to stop comparing ourselves to them.

Do the math with a low single digits of all Americans in all 50 states plus territories. Those parroting 60,000 to 72,000 are liars. Unlike you, I want people to go into this with eyes wide open.

madam or sir,

The information in my post isn't made up, it isn't an attempt to lie, and information/data is the only things we have to try to understand the mechanism of this particular disease.

If in fact you disagree with the info used, than say so and make your argument with the countering information you think disproves the information, like your three points.

Calling people liars because you disagree with the facts someone uses and implying the other person has evil intent to mislead because of their opinions and supporting data they use is lazy.

It is almost impossible at this stage to find reliable and trustworthy information on anything involved with any of the testing or practices being used. For instance there are multiple creditable reports with evidence that many counted in the COVID-19 death tally shouldn't have been and others who died of COVID-19 that were mistakenly counted as flu.

People of good conscious can disagree, that is only natural and right. They can discuss different points of disagreement civilly, using different sources of information or opinions related to the subject.

Heck, the data on this latest pestilence is muddy, full of political bias pushing one way or the other, and much remains unknown about it as it progresses through its path of infections and deaths.

BUT, you weaken your arguments when you fall back on emotional driven points like "Those parroting 60,000 to 72,000 are liars".

If you think this strengthens your arguments of your "opinion", in fact it is only an attempt to get an emotional reaction from the person (me as OP) whose points or opinion you are trying to refute. It shows that you have strong emotions driving your opinion which usually means you've closed your mind and thought process to any disputing information or opinions.

Here is "my" latest update chart comparing COVID-19 deaths as of yesterday to the best available estimates of flu deaths through short term and against the three worst historic flu years:

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Can this get worse? Sure it can, but at this point it is still in the relative range of normal flu deaths.

"Unlike you, I want people to go into this with eyes wide open." Yet you call me a liar and attribute it to my bad intentions to fool people. Contradictory at best, emotion driven for sure.

I'm a lot of things, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who knows me or has interacted with me on a normal basis to support your "opinion".
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
The feds are reporting 30 million have lost jobs due to the virus. Add the 4 million or so who were already out of work. Then the backlog that still hasn't caught up and you are looking at a up wards of 30% unemployed.

Due to the way the feds now count UE, it should be only about 18-22% officially when the numbers come out.

It is now worse than the Great Depression levels, but not nearly as long.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
The feds are reporting 30 million have lost jobs due to the virus. Add the 4 million or so who were already out of work. Then the backlog that still hasn't caught up and you are looking at a up wards of 30% unemployed.

Due to the way the feds now count UE, it should be only about 18-22% officially when the numbers come out.

It is now worse than the Great Depression levels, but not nearly as long.

IMHO we are already at Great Depression levels in real numbers. The best source I've found to try to get a handle on Unemployment as it used to be counted before the Fed's futzed with it is John Williams' Shaddow Statistics site.

Link- Alternate Unemployment Charts

He's showing March's numbers through March ending is:

The seasonally adjusted ShadowStats Alternate Unemployment Rate for March 2020 is 22.9%
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IMHO we are already at Great Depression UE levels now and still face increasing numbers for at least the next several month's as government bumbles its way to allowing the economy to restart.

Being a pessimist, the demon-crats will do every possible thing in their power to make this worse and drag it out as long as possible to try to win in November. It's bad enough as it is and the politicos and NWO's will only increase their attempts to break this country once and for all.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
I still don't understand people comparing this to the flu and saying it's no worse than a bad flu season.

The charts for flu show flu deaths for the year. We have not been dealing with CV19 for a year. We've only been dealing with it for a short period of time. It is not a fair comparison. You should be comparing number of flu deaths for the same short time period. When was the last time seasonal flu killed 60K people in a matter of weeks? In my state, there was a headline back in December that said during a week's period 6 people died from the flu. When CV19 started to take off here, the headline (posted at 7pm) changed to 7 people died today since 12 noon. That's a difference between almost 1 per day and 1 per hour.

It's like me saying (hypothetically) that my town was devastated due to heavy rains. We got 10 inches over the last 24 hours. Then my friend says, "what's the big deal? Your town gets 10 inches of rain every year."

The difference is the rain fell in a 24 hour time frame. That is why it devastates the town with flooding.

People who say this kills at the same rate as the flu are like people who say 'well your town gets 10 inches of rain every year, when you tell them 10 inches fell in 24 hours.

Oh well. I know this is a dead horse and no one will change their minds.
 
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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

COVID-19 Data for Pennsylvania*
* Map, tables, case counts and deaths last updated at 12:45 p.m. on 4/30/2020
Source: Pennsylvania National Electronic Disease Surveillance System (PA-NEDSS) as of 12:00 a.m. on 4/30/2020


Case Counts, Deaths, and Negatives
Total Cases*DeathsNegative
45,7632,292175,602


* Total case counts include confirmed and probable cases.



Hospital Data
Trajectory Animations


Positive Cases by Age Range to Date
Age RangePercent of Cases*
0-4< 1%
5-12< 1%
13-181%
19-246%
25-4938%
50-6427%
65+26%
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding


Hospitalization Rates by Age Range to Date
Age RangePercent of Cases
0-292%
30-495%
50-6410%
65-7920%
80+19%



County Case Counts to Date
CountyTotal CasesNegatives Deaths
Adams13715314
Allegheny12891581594
Armstrong516752
Beaver405205565
Bedford 241931
Berks26985471117
Blair239580
Bradford316782
Bucks28708232205
Butler17821706
Cambria2811691
Cameron1490
Carbon175104215
Centre968951
Chester13755249111
Clarion234801
Clearfield164230
Clinton312380
Columbia28359713
Crawford196870
Cumberland343144916
Dauphin584351525
Delaware36968677235
Elk31560
Erie8718922
Fayette8017654
Forest7290
Franklin28428136
Fulton5830
Greene264190
Huntingdon382740
Indiana636934
Jefferson43110
Juniata831391
Lackawanna913240982
Lancaster17657590104
Lawrence657246
Lebanon67625359
Lehigh2796713874
Luzerne2143484988
Lycoming6810980
McKean61620
Mercer657151
Mifflin386650
Monroe1127265254
Montgomery430717072351
Montour4729570
Northampton2050624794
Northumberland935530
Perry302131
Philadelphia1229727510424
Pike378120814
Potter4800
Schuylkill36819866
Snyder331921
Somerset265810
Sullivan1310
Susquehanna842728
Tioga162461
Union365270
Venango72460
Warren11700
Washington11520792
Wayne1005115
Westmoreland391444725
Wyoming201502
York64169659

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Incidence by County


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Incidence is calculated by dividing the current number of confirmed and probable COVID-19 cases reported to the Department by the 2018 county population data available from the Bureau of Health Statistics. The counties are divided into 6 relatively equally-sized groups based on their incidence rate (i.e. sestiles). Cases are determined using a national COVID-19 case definition. There currently is no way to estimate the true number of infected persons. Incidence rates are based on the number of known cases, not the number of true infected persons.


Case Counts and Deaths by Sex to Date







SexPositive Cases Percent of Cases*Deaths
Female24,78354%1089
Male20,38445%1191
Neither20%0
Not reported5941%12
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding

Case Counts and Deaths by Race to Date*



RacePositive CasesPercent of Cases** Deaths
African American/Black475310%226
Asian4871%26
White9,77421%836
Other213<1%7
Not reported30,53667%1197
* 67% of race is not reported. Little data is available on ethnicity.
** Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding



Case Counts by Region to Date








RegionPositiveNegativeInconclusive
Northcentral 707809213
Northeast97212647889
Northwest27460449
Southcentral28342133337
Southeast2904681787533
Southwest25723186823

EpiCurve by Region


EpiCurve%20by%20Region.png

Case counts are displayed by the date that the cases were first reported to the PA-NEDSS surveillance system. Case counts by date of report can vary significantly from day to day for a variety of reasons. In addition to changes due to actual changes in disease incidence, trends are strongly influenced by testing patterns (who gets tested and why), testing availability, lab analysis backlogs, lab reporting delays, new labs joining our electronic laboratory reporting system, mass screenings, etc. Trends need to be sustained for at least 2-3 weeks before any conclusions can be made regarding the progress of the pandemic.

COVID-19 Cases Associated with Nursing Homes and Personal Care Homes to Date

Facility CountyNumber of Facilities with CasesNumber of Cases Among ResidentsNumber of Cases Among EmployeesNumber of Deaths
ADAMS11634
ALLEGHENY342909071
ARMSTRONG1340
BEAVER32562258
BERKS194646475
BUCKS45638124147
BUTLER512102
CAMBRIA11.0
CARBON243412
CENTRE23.0
CHESTER273924398
CLARION1110
CLEARFIELD22.0
COLUMBIA2742217
CUMBERLAND41603814
DAUPHIN4961517
DELAWARE42780110173
ERIE4320
FAYETTE13.1
FRANKLIN41832
INDIANA31314
LACKAWANNA133615164
LANCASTER263929381
LAWRENCE2020
LEBANON33544
LEHIGH223476549
LUZERNE152663256
LYCOMING21130
MERCER11.0
MIFFLIN2110
MONROE81082822
MONTGOMERY77134738280
NORTHAMPTON1245810155
NORTHUMBERLAND1420
PERRY14.0
PHILADELPHIA5112825163
PIKE22244
SCHUYLKILL41610
SUSQUEHANNA344129
WASHINGTON3621
WAYNE1010
WESTMORELAND81322922
YORK4720
PENNSYLVANIA468811210321505
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
IMHO we are already at Great Depression levels in real numbers. The best source I've found to try to get a handle on Unemployment as it used to be counted before the Fed's futzed with it is John Williams' Shaddow Statistics site.

Link- Alternate Unemployment Charts

He's showing March's numbers through March ending is:

.

View attachment 194749

IMHO we are already at Great Depression UE levels now and still face increasing numbers for at least the next several month's as government bumbles its way to allowing the economy to restart.

Being a pessimist, the demon-crats will do every possible thing in their power to make this worse and drag it out as long as possible to try to win in November. It's bad enough as it is and the politicos and NWO's will only increase their attempts to break this country once and for all.
Agreed.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
I still don't understand people comparing this to the flu and saying it's no worse than a bad flu season.

The charts for flu show flu deaths for the year. We have not been dealing with CV19 for a year. We've only been dealing with it for a short period of time. It is not a fair comparison. You should be comparing number of flu deaths for the same short time period. When was the last time seasonal flu killed 60K people in a matter of weeks? In my state, there was a headline back in December that said during a week's period 6 people died from the flu. When CV19 started to take off here, the headline (posted at 7pm) changed to 7 people died today since 12 noon. That's a difference between almost 1 per day and 1 per hour.

It's like me saying (hypothetically) that my town was devastated due to heavy rains. We got 10 inches the last 24 hours. Then my friend says, "what's the big deal? Your town gets 10 inches of rain every year."

The difference is the rain fell in a 24 hour time frame. That is why it devastates the town with flooding.

People who say this kills at the same rate as the flu are like people who say 'well your town gets 10 inches of rain every year, when you tell them 10 inches fell in 24 hours.

Oh well. I know this is a dead horse and no one will change their minds.
The way I look at is this way:

The flu you get it real bad and a week or two later you are back to normal. 1/10 of 1% may die who get really sick.
This virus, if you get it real bad, you have a better than 5% chance of dying.

If you have a system that prevents you from getting real sick, congrats! If not, this is a deadly virus.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hfGcTokiY
8:17 min
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 64: Remdesivir COVID-19 Treatment Update
•Apr 30, 2020

MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY
COVID-19 Update 64 with critical care specialist and pulmonologist Roger Seheult, MD on Remdesivir treatment trial updates.

Dr. Seheult breaks down two studies on remdesivir that were released yesterday. One remdesivir study was published in the Lancet (the study was conducted in China) and the other was published by the NIH (the study was conducted in the United States). The results of these studies on remdesivir coronavirus treatment vs placebo were dramatically different.

Links referenced in this video: MedCram Live Webcast - https://www.medcram.com/pages/covid-1... Johns Hopkins - https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html NIH - https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-... The Lancet - https://www.thelancet.com/action/show...

Roger Seheult, MD Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Disease, Critical Care, and Sleep Medicine. MedCram provides videos to a variety of medical schools, education programs, and institutions (

Join Dr. Seheult for a live question and answer session, and free CME today, April 30 (4 PM ET): https://www.medcram.com/pages/covid-1...
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
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24:58 min
Thursday 30th April
•Apr 30, 2020

Dr. John Campbell

Global Deaths doubled in last 17 days Cases, 3, 207, 248 Deaths, 227,971 Commonwealth, (Patricia Scotland) Increase in domestic and sexual violence Indonesia Cases + 347 = 10,118 Deaths + 8 = 792 UK Deaths, US, Italy, UK Deaths 765 = 26,166 Cases, 166,441

Testing needs to be linked with contact tracing False negatives Clinical observation Devolved action Build up contact tracing locally 100,000 community antigen tests 100,000 antibody tests next NY State exmple State randomly tested 3,000 people at grocery stores and shopping locations across 19 counties in 40 localities 19.4 million people, preliminary results 2.7 million New Yorkers have been infected with Covid-19. NY State 13.9% NY City, 21% South Korea Cases 10, 765 Deaths 247 (CFR = 2.3) No locally acquired transmission in 24 hours 4 imported cases Early testing and contact tracing, including phone records Emergency text alerts then sent Test, track, trace, isolate Risk of second wave

Germany Deaths 6, 467 (CFR = 4%) Robert Koch Institute, latest reproduction number 0.75. Social distancing until 10th May Will take 2 weeks to tell Cases, Thursday + 1,478 = 161,539 Wednesday 29th = 1,600 Tuesday 28th = 1,200 Monday 27th = 988 Lockdown eased on 27th Sunday 26th 1,300 860,000 tests a week 476,000 tests were carried out last week, out of which 5.4% were positive. Czech Republic Cases, Deaths, Cautiously opening Below 100 new daily cases for past eight days Reproduction rate of the virus 0.7 So far we do not see a negative trend resulting from previous relaxations. We will proceed with caution, gradually in the upcoming waves, and I believe we are on a good path. Yemen Reports first 2 deaths Russia Record daily rise Thursday + 7,099 = 106,498. Deaths + 101 = 1,073 Deaths doubles in last 8 days Poland Cases, 12,781 Deaths, 628 Lockdown since the middle of March Mandatory masks wearing in public spaces Social distancing and we use sanitisers or gloves in shops Nature medicine https://www.nature.com/articles/s4159... Australia vaccine https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/20... Animation video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC1ue...
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33:46 min
Thursday 30th Part 2
•Apr 30, 2020

Dr. John Campbell
Australia Cases, 6,754 Deaths 92 (CFR = 1.4) “More than two million people downloaded the coronavirus tracking app in the first 24 hours, a take-up Health Minister Greg Hunt described as "magnificent". The University of Queensland’s COVID-19 vaccine has passed another important milestone, showing the ability to raise high levels of antibodies that can neutralise the virus in early pre-clinical testing Professor Paul Young; “We were particularly pleased that the strength of the antibody response was even better than those observed in samples from COVID-19 recovered patients.”

US Cases, 1, 040, 488 Deaths, 60, 999 Meat packing plants in the USA and Canada Many workers black or brown Somalis gravitate to this type of work Chemicals used for processing meat in the USA may affect respiratory health Crowded conditions: people work elbow to elbow Poor ventilation Limited access to hygiene Workers who are foreigners or migrants often live in dormitory-style residences Take a crowded van or bus to work Access to fresh food Senegal Cases, 933 Deaths, 9 Dr Sall, director Pasteur institute, Senegal Zika and Ebola experience

Suitcase laboratories, produced in country Contain at source Afghanistan Biggest daily rise of cases Cases Thursday + 232 = 2,171. Deaths 64 Limited and patchy lockdown Most cities streets still crowded

WHO, Dr. Margaret Harris Nature medicine Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks N=246 111 were infected by human (seasonal) coronavirus, influenza virus, rhinovirus 3 co-infected We tested viral shedding in nasal swabs, throat swabs, respiratory droplet samples and aerosol samples compared viruses in respiratory droplet samples and aerosol samples between with or without a face mask Viral RNA was identified from respiratory droplets and aerosols for all three viruses We detected coronavirus in respiratory droplets and aerosols in 4 of 10 of the samples collected without face masks but did not detect any virus in respiratory droplets or aerosols collected from participants wearing face masks Our results indicate that aerosol transmission is a potential mode of transmission for coronaviruses as well as influenza viruses and rhinoviruses.

We also demonstrated the efficacy of surgical masks to reduce coronavirus detection and viral copies in large respiratory droplets and in aerosols This has important implications for control of COVID-19, suggesting that surgical face masks could be used by ill people to reduce onward transmission.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xkk7M_R2EQ
1:00:33 min
War Room: Pandemic EP 150
•Streamed live 5 hours ago

Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republi
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Steve Bannon, Jack Maxey, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the media continues to act in the dark about the Chinese Communist Party's role in the global viral outbreak.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q93Jz5uTXQc
59:19 min
War Room: Pandemic EP 151


Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republic

Steve Bannon, Jack Maxey, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the media continues to act in the dark about the Chinese Communist Party's role in the global viral outbreak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZzjKLuAU6w
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
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1:56 min
Why We Need Contact Tracing: It Will Work for COVID-19
•Apr 30, 2020

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
The purpose of contact tracing is to break chains of transmission, explains Crystal Watson, a senior scholar with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. It is a very well-used public health intervention which has been used for decades to track a variety of infections.

Find out why the practice will be so crucial to controlling the spread of the novel coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. Learn more about how the practice can be scaled up and implemented in the United States by reading this report from the Center for Health Security: https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.o...

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfu318QwuYs
16:22 min
Social Media, Scientific Uncertainty, and Political Polarization—COVID-19’s Misinformation Storm
•Apr 30, 2020

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Misinformation about COVID-19 can have real human costs in the forms of physical harm and “straining the fabric of democracy.” But where does misinformation come from and how can it be prevented when so much is still unknown about the virus? Guest host Dr. Colleen Barry, chair of the Department of Health Policy and Management, talks with Dr. Brendan Nyhan, an expert in the politics of misinformation about health, about why people might believe false claims, the role of politics, and how to keep science at the center of the discussion. Learn more: jhsph.edu/covid-19
 
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marsh

On TB every waking moment
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1:47 min
UK COVID-19 death rate 26,71 second only to US while government falls 20,000 short of testing target
•Apr 30, 2020

The Sun

BORIS Johnson has tonight admitted the government is almost 20,000 coronavirus tests short of its target - as the deadline for 100,000 tests per day by the end of April. Health Secretary Matt Hancock had pledged that there would be 100,000 tests a day by the end of April. But during tonight's Downing Street press conference, the prime minister - who returned to work on Monday after battling Covid-19 - said yesterday 81,611 tests were carried out. The number of tests done either by the NHS or at temporary, mass testing sites around the country rises every day - and we won't know until tomorrow if the country has hit its target. In total, 901,905 have been completed. There are 15,043 people in hospital at the moment battling with the disease. In total, 26,711 have now died. Read more Boris Johnson reveals government is still nearly 20,000 short of coronavirus test target ahead of tonight’s deadline
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
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8:38 min
U.S.-China tensions escalate over COVID-19 response
•Apr 29, 2020

CBS News

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is accusing China of purposely destroying early samples of the coronavirus, rather than share them with the world. "Face the Nation" moderator and CBS News senior foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan joins CBSN's Reena Ninan for a closer look at the latest disagreement between the two economic powers.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I still don't understand people comparing this to the flu and saying it's no worse than a bad flu season.

The charts for flu show flu deaths for the year. We have not been dealing with CV19 for a year. We've only been dealing with it for a short period of time. It is not a fair comparison. You should be comparing number of flu deaths for the same short time period. When was the last time seasonal flu killed 60K people in a matter of weeks? In my state, there was a headline back in December that said during a week's period 6 people died from the flu. When CV19 started to take off here, the headline (posted at 7pm) changed to 7 people died today since 12 noon. That's a difference between almost 1 per day and 1 per hour.

It's like me saying (hypothetically) that my town was devastated due to heavy rains. We got 10 inches over the last 24 hours. Then my friend says, "what's the big deal? Your town gets 10 inches of rain every year."

The difference is the rain fell in a 24 hour time frame. That is why it devastates the town with flooding.

People who say this kills at the same rate as the flu are like people who say 'well your town gets 10 inches of rain every year, when you tell them 10 inches fell in 24 hours.

Oh well. I know this is a dead horse and no one will change their minds.

Actually, we're almost six months in now. Some reports already put the first COVID-19 death in the United States back in December. Tomorrow is May.
 

marsh

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Businesses United to
“OPEN FOR BUSINESS”
(on or Before May 1st)


MAYDAY: A universal broadcast of distress.
Our great country is in grave distress.


MAYDAY USA is a genuinely grassroots movement to revive our economy.
As a free people we are not waiting for government to give us permission to exercise our fundamental rights.

How can government prohibit us from earning a living while requiring us to pay them? Our legislators are Public Servants of “We the People.”
The more businesses that STAND UP FOR LIBERTY the more we will all be liberated.


CALL TO ACTION
DOWNLOAD, PRINT, POST and DISTRIBUTE
Download your “Open For Business” Flyer here

* Business owners: POST at your place of business to inform your customers that you will reopen on or before May 1st.
* Customer’s: Hand the flyers out to your favorite businesses.
(Feel encouraged to distribute this website & flyer.)


A sincere Thank You to all business owners and their employees for your valued service to your local community and contributions to the economic strength of our Great Nation!
 

marsh

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Modoc County may be the first in California to reopen since stay-at-home order began
By Deb Anderaos

Posted: Apr 29, 2020 10:40 AM
Updated: Apr 29, 2020 10:43 AM
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MODOC COUNTY, Calif. — The Modoc County Sheriff’s Office announced a strategic plan to reopen the county on Friday, May 1. The plan was signed by the Modoc County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday.

This could make Modoc the first county in the state of California to allow businesses to reopen since Governor Gavin Newsom initiated the stay-at-home order on March 19.

Modoc County borders Oregon's Klamath and Lake counties on the southern side, and lies just east of Siskiyou County.

In a press release, Sheriff William Dowdy said starting May 1, all businesses essential and non-essential will be allowed to open but must be able to adhere to the following guidelines:
  • Proper physical distancing with six feet of space between one another.
  • Washing hands often
  • Staying home if sick or feeling unwell
  • Proper sanitation practices
  • All residents 65 or older or having underlying health conditions should continue to self-isolate
  • No large gatherings where proper physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Schools, churches, public transit companies, and private/government sectors will also be able to return to operations if they follow the guidelines. The Sheriff said that restaurants and bars may open for inside dining, but only at half-capacity of maximum occupancy.

The Sheriff warned, as the county moves through this staged approach to reopen, they will include reasoning to reinitiate previous measures as necessary.

They said examples of measures needing to be reverted would include confirming two or more coronavirus cases, medical surge, and/or substantially increased death rate within the county.

Modoc County remains at zero confirmed cases, however the Sheriff’s Office posted on Facebook April 28, that they received news of a possible COVID-19 case in the county.

“Public Health received a call requesting a contact investigation of a Modoc County Resident who recently traveled out of state,” the Sheriff’s Office said. “We are in the midst of this investigation and we currently know that the resident has been self-isolating since returning to Modoc.”

The plan will be reassessed on May 15 as well as June 1, according to the Sheriff’s Office.

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1st in California, rural Modoc County to drop shelter-in-place orders, open for business Friday
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Kurtis Alexander
April 29, 2020 Updated: April 30, 2020 8:51 a.m.


Downtown Cedarville in Modoc County. The rural county expects to lead California out of its nearly 2-month-old shutdown.

1of3Downtown Cedarville in Modoc County. The rural county expects to lead California out of its nearly 2-month-old shutdown.Photo: Brant Ward / The Chronicle 2009

Alturas is the county seat of Modoc County, complete with Western murals on some downtown corners. The county plans to be the first in the state to drop shelter-in-place orders.

2of3Alturas is the county seat of Modoc County, complete with Western murals on some downtown corners. The county plans to be the first in the state to drop shelter-in-place orders.Photo: Brant Ward / The Chronicle 2009

Members of the McGarva family ride down a country road near their home in Likely (Modoc County) to move some cattle to another pasture.


3of3Members of the McGarva family ride down a country road near their home in Likely (Modoc County) to move some cattle to another pasture.Photo: Brant Ward / The Chronicle 2009

The handful of burgers and breakfast sandwiches that Nikki French has been making for pickup each day isn’t paying the bills.

Her eight-table diner in rural Modoc County, which used to serve gobs of pancakes and chicken-fried steak to local ranchers and travelers off Highway 395, has seen sales plunge since the coronavirus put a lid on most commercial activities last month, including sit-down dining.

On Friday, however, the Auction Yard Cafe in Alturas, along with the small town’s movie theater, bars, hair salons and other shops and restaurants, plans to reopen its doors and get back to business.

“It’s time,” said French, 48, who was forced to stop table service in mid-March. “You see everybody going out to the grocery store now, and the hardware business is booming. You might as well let us and everybody else open, too.”

Modoc County, once a gateway for horse-drawn wagons settling the West, expects to lead California out of its nearly 2-month-old shutdown. Facing frustrated shopkeepers and a public antsy from social isolation, the county’s Board of Supervisors approved plans this week to allow businesses, schools, churches and doctors’ offices to resume operation — with added safety precautions.

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The move comes as the rest of California remains idled by state shelter-in-place orders, which have forced services considered nonessential to close. Six Bay Area counties, including San Francisco, have even extended local stay-at-home directives through the end of May.

The different actions across California reflect the stark contrast in how different parts of the state have been affected by the virus and how they view the threat. Rural areas, where the number of sick people and deaths is much lower, have recently ramped up pressure on Gov. Gavin Newsom to ease restrictions.

Last week, six counties in California’s sparsely populated north — Sutter, Yuba, Butte, Colusa, Tehama and Glenn — along with the region’s Republican state lawmakers sent a letter to the Democratic governor asking permission for businesses to reopen, but to little avail. The counties together claim fewer than 100 of the state’s more than 46,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19. Statewide, more than 1,900 people have died.

Modoc County, meanwhile, has had zero cases of COVID-19. Like the counties that petitioned the governor for leniency, the leaders there also have sent Newsom a letter, this one notifying him of their intention to drop the state sanctions Friday.

“At some point, there needs to be a beginning of the reopening process and, quite honestly, what better county for it to occur in,” said Ned Coe, a county supervisor and longtime cattle rancher. “We got a small population and we’re COVID-19 free.”

Coe said that county officials have made certain that their reopening plan meets the terms the governor laid out as necessary before shelter-in-place orders can be safely lifted. They include ensuring that businesses can provide adequate social distancing and having the means to test sick residents for the virus.

The governor, however, has not left it to local jurisdictions to decide when they’re ready to drop state directives. Newsom’s office did not respond to requests from The Chronicle for comment. Newsom, in the past, has said that his office would resist pressure to rescind the shelter-in-place orders until health officials think it’s safe.

While acknowledging that circumstances differ in different areas, state health officials have worried that prematurely lifting the regulations in one place would lead to outbreaks of the virus that could spread elsewhere.

Modoc County’s plan for reopening comes with several conditions. Restaurants and bars must operate at half capacity. Churches and schools have to keep people 6 feet apart. It also advises those over 65 to stay home.

The county only has about 8,800 residents, about a third of whom live in Alturas, the only incorporated community. There’s a small hospital, a casino, several schools and a number of small towns across the 4,200 square miles of largely pine forests, alpine lakes and mountains. But for many services, residents in Alturas drive an hour and a half to Klamath Falls in Oregon or three hours to Reno or Redding.

“We don’t have a mall or a Walmart,” said Heather Hadwick, the county’s deputy director of the Office of Emergency Services, who is helping to spearhead the reopening. “Our movie theater is never packed, so we’re already social distancing. ... And most of our hair salons have only one chair.”

Hadwick said it will be easy for most businesses to meet the county’s new rules for operation and, if not, they’ll do what’s necessary to comply.

Only one business in the county has so far qualified for a federal small business loan, county officials say, leaving most eager to reopen and begin making money again.


[COMMENT: Gov. Newsom said today that the county may have more stringent, but not less stringent, rules from the state of CA. As usual, my Supervisor friends in Modoc are among the first for freedom in the north state. Historically, Siskiyou would go with them, but they have had 5 cases. ]
 
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Vacaville hair stylist defies shelter-in-place order, opens up shop

Posted: Apr 28, 2020 / 05:03 PM PDT / Updated: Apr 28, 2020 / 05:05 PM PDT

VACAVILLE, Calif. (KRON) – A Vacaville hair stylist is defying the shelter-in-place order amid the coronavirus pandemic.

On Tuesday, she re-opened her salon to existing clients despite not being an essential business.

KRON4’s Philippe Djegal reports the woman is willing to risk a fine or the possibility of her business being shut down.

Six weeks without working is long enough for Lia Rivera, the owner of Hairendipity Salon in downtown Vacaville.

Her business is considered non-essential and has been closed during the shelter-in-place but Rivera says she can no longer afford to keep clients away.
”It’s a survival tactic at this point,” Rivera said.

On Tuesday, Rivera welcomed back existing clients only despite the Solano County Health Officer extending the shelter-in-place order through May 17th.

By re-opening, Rivera could face a stiff fine and possibly jail time but she believes staying closed would be more costly than getting penalized by the county.

”It costs me about seven grand in overhead to keep the salon going, and then my personal income that I earn as a stylist behind the chair to take home to my family is about equal to that, so we’re talking 15-grand a month that I’m guaranteed to lose. I mean, I think it’s worth taking the risk,” Rivera said.
Her client Stacy Roudebush agrees.

Roudebush is a nurse and has no health reservations about taking an appointment at the salon.

”I’m not concerned because it’s just the two of us, we both have masks on,” Roudebush said.

Nicole Fahey owns True Roots Juice and Eats next door which has been allowed to remain open during the pandemic unlike most of her neighbors.

”All of us down here are pretty much small business owners. So, I sympathize with them everyday,” Fahey said.

As for Rivera, she says she has been unsuccessful so far in applying for small business loans and unemployment.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
God is good, all the time! Prayers answered

I have had a few family members fighting for their life for more than a month. Dominick was on a vent for weeks. His wife also had it and recovered. Their two children, with new families of their own, isolated from both of them through all of this, not knowing if they would lose their mother, father or both.

Dominick has now beat it. He is still recovering, but was sent home from the hospital this morning.

The sign in Italian says "People like us, never give up"
 

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‘Is my dad alive?’: Deaths mount at Holyoke Soldiers’ Home
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by: Associated Press and Nexstar Media Wire
Posted: Apr 30, 2020 / 02:31 PM EDT / Updated: Apr 30, 2020 / 02:35 PM EDT
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Susan Kenney with her late father Charles Lowell, when he resided at the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home in Holyoke, Mass. Lowell died April 15, 2020, after contracting the new coronavirus while residing at the veterans’ home. He was 78. (Susan Kenney via AP)
HOLYOKE, Mass. (AP) – Desperate for information as coronavirus deaths mounted at the Massachusetts veterans home where her father lived, Susan Kenney drove there with her question written in big letters on her car window: “Is my dad alive?”
He was. But not for long.
Kenney’s father and 81 others as of Wednesday who served their country have died after contracting the virus at the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home in what has become the deadliest known outbreak at a long-term care facility in the U.S. As state and federal officials investigate what went wrong, outrage is building among family members and workers who say leadership failed to protect the veterans and allowed the virus to spread unchecked.
“Somebody screwed up there,” Kenney said, choking back tears. “Somebody needs to be held responsible.”
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(Susan Kenney via AP)
Officials and health care workers at the state-run home are now racing to curb the spread of the disease while tending to the roughly 100 veterans who remain there. Dozens of residents have been moved away, including about 30 to a nursing unit at Holyoke Medical Center. In addition to the dead, about 80 other veterans and 80 employees have contracted the virus, officials said.
The home’s superintendent was placed on administrative leave on March 30 and the CEO of Western Massachusetts Hospital, Val Liptak, took over operations.
This week, eight “coaches” were brought into the home to ensure staff are using personal protective equipment properly, officials said. And dozens of National Guard members have been sent there to help, but staffers say it’s too little, too late.
“The truth is the damage has already been done,” said Kwesi Ablordeppey, a certified nursing assistant who has worked there for about 20 years. “All we can do now is do our best to salvage,” he said.
Workers say they weren’t given adequate personal protective gear at the beginning of the outbreak and management didn’t properly isolate the first veteran to test positive for COVID-19. Staffing shortages that employees have been complaining about for years helped the virus spread quickly as nurses were forced to move from unit to unit to help out, they said.
“We sounded the alarm. The state knew… and nobody wanted to listen to us,” said Joe Ramirez, another staffer who contracted the virus himself. “Unfortunately this virus hits and now they are looking into it,” said Ramirez, vice president of the union that represents many of the facility’s workers.
The home’s superintendent, Bennett Walsh, has defended his response and accused state officials of falsely claiming they weren’t notified quickly enough about the spread of the virus. His lawyer, William Bennett, said Wednesday that Walsh wants to let investigations into the home unfold before commenting further.
For most people, the coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough, that clear up in two to three weeks. For some, especially older adults and the infirm, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia.
The dead include World War II veterans and those who served during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. They were husbands, fathers and grandfathers, already weakened by other health issues, and in need of camaraderie and a quiet place to spend the remainder of their lives.
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Charles Lowell when he was a member of the United States Air Force. Lowell died April 15, 2020, after contracting the new coronavirus while residing at the Holyoke Soldiers’ Home in Holyoke, Mass. He was 78. (Susan Kenney via AP)
When Kenney heard about the problems at the home, she started frantically calling to get details about her father, Charlie Lowell, she said. After failing to get a hold of anyone for hours, she took a blue grease pencil and wrote on her car windows: “Is my dad alive? Shame on Soldiers Home. Over 30 hours with no call back.”
When she arrived at the home, she shouted at a woman wearing scrubs: “Who the hell is in charge here?” Kenney said.
Lowell, 78, died on April 15, nearly two weeks after Kenney drove her car to the home searching for answers. The Air Force veteran was an air launch missile guide technician for the 17th Airborne Missile Maintenance Squadron until 1965 before working at IBM. He leaves behind a wife of almost 60 years.
To Keri Rutherford, it had looked like her father was going to be one the lucky ones to escape the virus. Francis “Fran” Foley, an 84-year-old Army veteran, initially tested negative and was moved to the Holyoke Medical Center with others who didn’t have COVID-19, she said. But soon, he was running a 104 degree fever. Days later, he died.
“I think a lot of people have the mindset, ‘Oh, they were old. They already had issues,’” Rutherford said. “It’s almost like because they were old and in a nursing home, it didn’t really matter,” she said.
Several investigations into the deaths are underway.
Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey said she is looking into whether legal action is warranted. And the Massachusetts U.S. attorney’s office and Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division are investigating whether officials violated residents’ rights by failing to provide them proper medical care.
Family members say they are hopeful those investigations will provide answers and perhaps justice. The veterans deserved to be protected by the country they gave so much of their lives to, they say.
“You’re dealing with a population who either volunteered or was drafted and throughout the duration of their lives have always put the welfare of others in front of themselves,” said state Rep. John Velis, a major in the Army Reserve who visited the home last week.
“The least we can do for them as a commonwealth, the least we can do for them as a nation is to make sure that they can live a peaceful, safe remaining time period they have on this earth,” he said.

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