Yeah, it definitely does not bode well....
CORONA Main Coronavirus thread
- Thread starter Heliobas Disciple
- Start date
-
- Tags
- coronavirus
Yeah, it definitely does not bode well....
Truthsearch
Doom is ALWAYS 6 Months Away...
I don’t think everyone realizes the seriousness of this issue, but from what I can determine it appears AN ENGINEERED DISEASE ESCAPED FROM A BIOWARFARE FACILITY
I hope and pray to God that I’m wrong.
I hope and pray to God that I’m wrong.
There are also the issue of being considered a hoarder and thus an enemy of the people.....
Though not impossible, and it has happened before in many countries, Mother Nature is more than capable of sticking it to us self important humans.....
The only thing I've read (and I don't know if there is any supporting data) is that, for some reason, young children don't seem to be as susceptible. And if you read the names and ages of those who died, many are over 60...
Summerthyme
colonel holman
Veteran Member
LYME DISEASE
desert_fox
Threadkiller
I always get a bit concerned about things like this. Reading the Jakarta Pandemic got me thinking seriously about what a flu bug can do. That and I also play The Division which is about a manufactured bug that causes pandemic in New York.
That may be O.K. for you and I try to do the same But I Don't know what others are doing, I myself can't address what they do. I just don't know????? Just one possibility.
Heliobas Disciple
TB Fanatic
There was more than one doctor infected. I posted about two different doctors who got infected. One doctor (see post 246 above) who was infected was part of a pulmonology group that was initially investigating the disease. Ironically he came out afterwards and said it was nothing to worry about, and then got sick himself. This doctor could have caught it from someone coughing in his face, spraying their cough in his eyes. If so, it must have been an 'oh crap' moment for him when it happened, and he probably started worrying as soon as he got conjuctiva. The other doctor caught it during neuro-surgery (see post 245 above) on a patient who didn't display symptoms until after the surgery. If he caught it in his eyes, possibly it was from blood or other fluid splatter. I don't think the patient would have been coughing during surgery. I think the doctor and nurses who caught it during that surgery is something that they should be looking at - exactly how did they catch it from a patient who was unconscious (not coughing), when they were wearing gloves and masks? Really interesting question (for me at least).
Bottom line, unless the news reports which doctor it was, we really don't know at this time and it does make a difference - from a cough or from something else? (If he was just in the room and caught it, why only him? Is his immune system compromised or is he genetically more disposed? things to be considered)
The other take-away of course is masks may not be enough. And if you are in close proximity of someone coughing, you do need googles or other protective eye coverings.
HD
Krayola
Veteran Member
Sorry, I edited my earlier comment but you probably did not see it. I basically agreed with you that it is worrisome that people may decide to take a pill to lower fever so they can hop on a plane to flee the area or get back to their home country undetected.
WanderLore
Veteran Member
i read just a little bit ago that there is now a confirmed case is Seattle? It was on Citizens free press, direct link from nbc report from cdc today. sorry typing with one hand
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Didn't wear "googles"?
Krayola
Veteran Member
HD,
It unnerved me when I heard that the surgical team (something like 1 doctor and 12 nurses??) caught it during neurosurgery. Like you said, patient was unconscious. Surgery team should have been gowned up with gloves and mask etc. How did they get it? It just sounds more contagious then we are being led to believe.
It unnerved me when I heard that the surgical team (something like 1 doctor and 12 nurses??) caught it during neurosurgery. Like you said, patient was unconscious. Surgery team should have been gowned up with gloves and mask etc. How did they get it? It just sounds more contagious then we are being led to believe.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Have you seen videos on their surgical theaters over there, and how they do surgery?
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
New one or the one reported yesterday?
Krayola
Veteran Member
No. I just assumed it would be similar to how it is done in the West. Is it different?
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Lets just say I'd rather have surgery performed on me in my living room than a hospital in china.
desertvet2
Veteran Member
Just a hop skip and a jump from today to ...two weeks from now.
.Eponentiality.
.Eponentiality.
Krayola
Veteran Member
Exclusive — Tom Cotton Urges Trump Administration to Consider Banning Travel from China over Coronavirus
MATTHEW BOYLE 22 Jan 2020 Washington, D.C
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) is urging President Donald Trump’s administration to consider implementing a ban on travelers from China to the United States over the Chinese Communist Party’s mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak that has left more than a dozen people dead.
In a letter to Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar obtained exclusively by Breitbart News ahead of its public release, Cotton raises serious public health concerns over the coronavirus and in particular the disease making its way to America’s shores through weak screening that could cause an outbreak here.
“I write to you today about the continued spread of the Wuhan coronavirus, which has now arrived on American soil,” Cotton wrote in the Wednesday letter, which came after the first U.S. case of coronavirus was confirmed in Washington state earlier this week. “Once again, a deadly virus is emanating from the People’s Republic of China. The Wuhan coronavirus has infected hundreds of people in China, killing at least seventeen individuals so far. The disease has now spread to Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, and South Korea. At least one case has been confirmed in the United States. I’m confident that the United States Government is undertaking all possible measures to contain the spread of the disease, but I’m deeply concerned that waging an efficient and successful campaign against this virus depends on the trustworthiness and transparency of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), an organization with a horrendous history in these matters.”
A Cotton aide told Breitbart News that the Chinese Communist government’s history with such disease outbreaks—pointing specifically to the SARS outbreak—is “terrible,” especially when it comes to transparency. The outbreak origins of the Wuhan coronavirus, the Cotton aide noted, is “eerily similar” to the SARS outbreak—something even the New York Times agrees with. Cotton, the aide told Breitbart News, wants to be sure that HHS and the whole U.S. government approach the Chinese Communists’ handling of this disease scare with “extreme skepticism” and “prepare for the worst.”
“The numbers we have now are almost certainly underreported, and in the event that this continues to grow rapidly, we have to prepare the strongest possible measures to protect Americans: screening people arriving from China, and possibly a travel ban,” the Cotton aide told Breitbart News.
Sen. Cotton noted in his letter to Azar that the Chinese Communist Party has a history of providing misleading and false information on public health scares.
“As you know, in the past the CCP has lied, falsified statistics, and suppressed information about the outbreak of disease in order to protect its political standing and cover for its own incompetence,” Cotton wrote. “In 2002 and 2003, the SARS virus killed nearly 800 people and infected over 8,000 worldwide after the CCP denied there was even a health crisis. During the outbreak, CCP officials imposed a months-long blackout on media coverage of the disease. The CCP, with its totalitarian Marxist-Leninistideology, reflexively covers up scandals that could threaten its power.”
He urged Secretary Azar to immediately brief Congress if the administration becomes aware of misinformation from the Chinese Communists with regard to the coronavirus.
“For these reasons, the CCP’s calls for transparency about the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus are deeply suspect,” Cotton wrote. “I urge the Department of Health and Human Services to carefully vet any information being passed from its contacts in Beijing. If you have reason to believe that U.S. officials are being provided with false or misleading information about the disease from Chinese government officials, I ask that you notify Congress immediately.”
Cotton then noted that the administration should be considering banning travel from China to the United States to prevent spread of the disease to America’s shores.
“Moreover, given China’s dismal record on these matters, your Department and all relevant agencies of the U.S. Government must be proactive in planning for scenarios where this infection continues to spread,” Cotton wrote. “Measures such as screening all travelers from the People’s Republic of China and, if necessary, banning entry to those traveling from China must be contemplated and prepared in order to keep Americans safe. It is imperative that the United States, China, and other relevant governments and international bodies cooperate to prevent this virus from becoming a pandemic. This cooperation must be conducted on the basis of facts, not the CCP’s political fiction.”
President Trump’s travel ban issued at the beginning of his administration banned travel into the United States from several countries, including North Korea, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen. The ban was challenged by Democrats, but the U.S. Supreme Court upheld it. Trump has considered in recent days expanding the travel ban to several other countries, including reportedly Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Nigeria, Sudan, Tanzania, and Myanmar—also known as Burma.
The president could expand the travel ban on a temporary basis to China, as Cotton is urging consideration of, if the Chinese cannot get control of the coronavirus.
www.breitbart.com
MATTHEW BOYLE 22 Jan 2020 Washington, D.C
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) is urging President Donald Trump’s administration to consider implementing a ban on travelers from China to the United States over the Chinese Communist Party’s mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak that has left more than a dozen people dead.
In a letter to Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar obtained exclusively by Breitbart News ahead of its public release, Cotton raises serious public health concerns over the coronavirus and in particular the disease making its way to America’s shores through weak screening that could cause an outbreak here.
“I write to you today about the continued spread of the Wuhan coronavirus, which has now arrived on American soil,” Cotton wrote in the Wednesday letter, which came after the first U.S. case of coronavirus was confirmed in Washington state earlier this week. “Once again, a deadly virus is emanating from the People’s Republic of China. The Wuhan coronavirus has infected hundreds of people in China, killing at least seventeen individuals so far. The disease has now spread to Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, and South Korea. At least one case has been confirmed in the United States. I’m confident that the United States Government is undertaking all possible measures to contain the spread of the disease, but I’m deeply concerned that waging an efficient and successful campaign against this virus depends on the trustworthiness and transparency of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), an organization with a horrendous history in these matters.”
A Cotton aide told Breitbart News that the Chinese Communist government’s history with such disease outbreaks—pointing specifically to the SARS outbreak—is “terrible,” especially when it comes to transparency. The outbreak origins of the Wuhan coronavirus, the Cotton aide noted, is “eerily similar” to the SARS outbreak—something even the New York Times agrees with. Cotton, the aide told Breitbart News, wants to be sure that HHS and the whole U.S. government approach the Chinese Communists’ handling of this disease scare with “extreme skepticism” and “prepare for the worst.”
“The numbers we have now are almost certainly underreported, and in the event that this continues to grow rapidly, we have to prepare the strongest possible measures to protect Americans: screening people arriving from China, and possibly a travel ban,” the Cotton aide told Breitbart News.
Sen. Cotton noted in his letter to Azar that the Chinese Communist Party has a history of providing misleading and false information on public health scares.
“As you know, in the past the CCP has lied, falsified statistics, and suppressed information about the outbreak of disease in order to protect its political standing and cover for its own incompetence,” Cotton wrote. “In 2002 and 2003, the SARS virus killed nearly 800 people and infected over 8,000 worldwide after the CCP denied there was even a health crisis. During the outbreak, CCP officials imposed a months-long blackout on media coverage of the disease. The CCP, with its totalitarian Marxist-Leninistideology, reflexively covers up scandals that could threaten its power.”
He urged Secretary Azar to immediately brief Congress if the administration becomes aware of misinformation from the Chinese Communists with regard to the coronavirus.
“For these reasons, the CCP’s calls for transparency about the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus are deeply suspect,” Cotton wrote. “I urge the Department of Health and Human Services to carefully vet any information being passed from its contacts in Beijing. If you have reason to believe that U.S. officials are being provided with false or misleading information about the disease from Chinese government officials, I ask that you notify Congress immediately.”
Cotton then noted that the administration should be considering banning travel from China to the United States to prevent spread of the disease to America’s shores.
“Moreover, given China’s dismal record on these matters, your Department and all relevant agencies of the U.S. Government must be proactive in planning for scenarios where this infection continues to spread,” Cotton wrote. “Measures such as screening all travelers from the People’s Republic of China and, if necessary, banning entry to those traveling from China must be contemplated and prepared in order to keep Americans safe. It is imperative that the United States, China, and other relevant governments and international bodies cooperate to prevent this virus from becoming a pandemic. This cooperation must be conducted on the basis of facts, not the CCP’s political fiction.”
President Trump’s travel ban issued at the beginning of his administration banned travel into the United States from several countries, including North Korea, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen. The ban was challenged by Democrats, but the U.S. Supreme Court upheld it. Trump has considered in recent days expanding the travel ban to several other countries, including reportedly Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Nigeria, Sudan, Tanzania, and Myanmar—also known as Burma.
The president could expand the travel ban on a temporary basis to China, as Cotton is urging consideration of, if the Chinese cannot get control of the coronavirus.
Exclusive — Cotton Urges Trump to Consider China Travel Ban over Virus
Cotton is urging administration to consider implementing a ban on travelers from China to the United States over the coronavirus outbreak.
www.breitbart.com
I would request U.S. nationals to get out of China and then implement a travel ban to and from China within 48 hours.
It sends a clear message that -any- dealings with the Godless Communist Regime are always fraught with peril.
If the situation stabilizes and clarifies itself in a couple of weeks, I don't see any great harm done.
Plus it would establish a precedent for future enhancements of our border security.
Last edited:
AlfaMan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
there's a interesting and detailed (and too big to drag over here) update on coronavirus at Pro Med.
www.promedmail.org
www.promedmail.org
TxGal
Day by day
Hey AlfaMan (and others in Virginia) - I know the school mentioned isn't near your AO (I think), it's still the county!
wtop.com
Chinese students on exchange program won’t attend classes in Fairfax County, school system says
Rick Massimo
January 22, 2020, 5:27 PM
More than 20 children from an area of China where the coronavirus has hit hard are still visiting Fairfax County, Virginia — they just won’t be going to school while they’re there.
Fairfax County Public Schools spokeswoman Lucy Caldwell told WTOP Wednesday that the 21 students, all 12 years old, from Yichang, in China’s Hubei province, are visiting the area as part of an exchange program. Some of them are staying with families from Longfellow Middle School, in Falls Church, Virginia, and they have five adult chaperones with them.
The outbreak has been centered in Wuhan, the capital of the Hubei province.
The children and adults from China arrived in the past 48 hours, Caldwell said, flying through John F. Kennedy Airport, in New York — one of the five U.S. airports conducting enhanced screening for the coronavirus.
Caldwell said no one had any signs of being sick, and the risk of transmission was low.
“While health officials believe the risk of illness transmission … from these students is extremely low, we felt it necessary to make this adjustment,” principal Carole Kihm said in a letter to parents.
The program was to begin Wednesday and run through Jan. 29. The children would attend classes at Longfellow, but after a meeting among health and school officials, as well as parents, that part of the trip has been scrapped out of what the school system called an abundance of caution, Caldwell said.
Instead, the children will tour the D.C. area and take in other cultural sites, under the auspices of the travel company coordinating the exchange.
Families from Longfellow are meant to send their children to school in Yichang during the April vacation; it’s not known yet whether they’ll be able to, Caldwell said.
Chinese students on exchange program won’t attend classes in Fairfax County, school system says - WTOP News
More than 20 young students from an area of China where the coronavirus has hit hard are still visiting Fairfax County — they just won’t be going to classes.
wtop.com
Chinese students on exchange program won’t attend classes in Fairfax County, school system says
Rick Massimo
January 22, 2020, 5:27 PM
More than 20 children from an area of China where the coronavirus has hit hard are still visiting Fairfax County, Virginia — they just won’t be going to school while they’re there.
Fairfax County Public Schools spokeswoman Lucy Caldwell told WTOP Wednesday that the 21 students, all 12 years old, from Yichang, in China’s Hubei province, are visiting the area as part of an exchange program. Some of them are staying with families from Longfellow Middle School, in Falls Church, Virginia, and they have five adult chaperones with them.
The outbreak has been centered in Wuhan, the capital of the Hubei province.
The children and adults from China arrived in the past 48 hours, Caldwell said, flying through John F. Kennedy Airport, in New York — one of the five U.S. airports conducting enhanced screening for the coronavirus.
Caldwell said no one had any signs of being sick, and the risk of transmission was low.
“While health officials believe the risk of illness transmission … from these students is extremely low, we felt it necessary to make this adjustment,” principal Carole Kihm said in a letter to parents.
The program was to begin Wednesday and run through Jan. 29. The children would attend classes at Longfellow, but after a meeting among health and school officials, as well as parents, that part of the trip has been scrapped out of what the school system called an abundance of caution, Caldwell said.
Instead, the children will tour the D.C. area and take in other cultural sites, under the auspices of the travel company coordinating the exchange.
Families from Longfellow are meant to send their children to school in Yichang during the April vacation; it’s not known yet whether they’ll be able to, Caldwell said.
naturallysweet
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I understand it's traditional for the older family members to do the shopping for the household. Which could explain why older people are catching it first. They are in the markets exchanging saliva with everyone who breathes near them. No clue on the gender difference. Unless the area has more men than women.
We should find out in a couple weeks, if kids start coming down with it. That pesky 10 day plus incubation period....
We should find out in a couple weeks, if kids start coming down with it. That pesky 10 day plus incubation period....
Truthsearch
Doom is ALWAYS 6 Months Away...
Just read that 10,000, yes, ten thousand people have been exposed to it and infected with it. Looking for more information now to confirm
goosebeans
Veteran Member
'The program was to begin Wednesday and run through Jan. 29. The children would attend classes at Longfellow, but after a meeting among health and school officials, as well as parents, that part of the trip has been scrapped out of what the school system called an abundance of caution, Caldwell said '
But it's ok for them to be cheek by jowl with all the tourists from all over the world, in DC!
But it's ok for them to be cheek by jowl with all the tourists from all over the world, in DC!
Shooter
Veteran Member
I thought with all the severe flue talk, it might be a good place to ask, What mask is best for this type outbreak, I went to amazon to look. and did a search, WOW 388 results for 3M N95 masks, and the pics dont look at all alike. some look like a standard dust mask, others have a valve, so redid search for just 3M brand, even then all the different models,, 8511, 8200, 8210, 8210V and 8210 plus, I figured Id buy a bulk pack, looks like 80 to 100 masks in a bundle, but what one is better ?
Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
That, and the Alpha-gal allergy. I don’t believe for a second that a naturally occurring tick-borne disease can make people allergic to red meat. Too convenient for the whole vegan movement.
If you really think you might end up wearing one for longer than a few minutes at a time, the masks with one-way valves are more comfortable. They're also better for those who already have breathing problems.
But it sounds like even a fabric surgical mask is effective... although I sure wouldn't want to count on that with something like Ebola!
One thing, touched on by the doctor who believes he caught it through his eyes... every time one of these "potential pandemic" viruses shows up, I think about how many people wear contact lenses. I think they're much better than they were years ago, but I still see people adjusting them, pok8ng at their eyes, etc...
That's fine in normal times, but if you are worried enough about catching something that you're wearing a mask, dump the contacts and wear glasses for the duration.
Summerthyme
Shooter
Veteran Member
Thank you, one problem I ran into while painting cars, I wear glasses and the mask would cause my glasses to fog up. because when you exhale it came out allover, would the valve help with that ?
samus79
Veteran Member
Not really, I’ve shot lacquer a few times using a N95 and the full on 3M respirator with the canisters and I can’t wear glasses while doing it, they fog up no matter what I try
AlfaMan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Hey AlfaMan (and others in Virginia) - I know the school mentioned isn't near your AO (I think), it's still the county!
Chinese students on exchange program won’t attend classes in Fairfax County, school system says - WTOP News
More than 20 young students from an area of China where the coronavirus has hit hard are still visiting Fairfax County — they just won’t be going to classes.
Chinese students on exchange program won’t attend classes in Fairfax County, school system says
Rick Massimo
January 22, 2020, 5:27 PM
More than 20 children from an area of China where the coronavirus has hit hard are still visiting Fairfax County, Virginia — they just won’t be going to school while they’re there.
Fairfax County Public Schools spokeswoman Lucy Caldwell told WTOP Wednesday that the 21 students, all 12 years old, from Yichang, in China’s Hubei province, are visiting the area as part of an exchange program. Some of them are staying with families from Longfellow Middle School, in Falls Church, Virginia, and they have five adult chaperones with them.
The outbreak has been centered in Wuhan, the capital of the Hubei province.
The children and adults from China arrived in the past 48 hours, Caldwell said, flying through John F. Kennedy Airport, in New York — one of the five U.S. airports conducting enhanced screening for the coronavirus.
Caldwell said no one had any signs of being sick, and the risk of transmission was low.
“While health officials believe the risk of illness transmission … from these students is extremely low, we felt it necessary to make this adjustment,” principal Carole Kihm said in a letter to parents.
The program was to begin Wednesday and run through Jan. 29. The children would attend classes at Longfellow, but after a meeting among health and school officials, as well as parents, that part of the trip has been scrapped out of what the school system called an abundance of caution, Caldwell said.
Instead, the children will tour the D.C. area and take in other cultural sites, under the auspices of the travel company coordinating the exchange.
Families from Longfellow are meant to send their children to school in Yichang during the April vacation; it’s not known yet whether they’ll be able to, Caldwell said.
Falls Church city is just down from the Tysons Corner mall area, down rt.7 Leesburg Pike. We're about 25 minutes away .Thank God they're staying over in Falls Church rather than where we're at. FFX CO schools made a good decision not to have these kids attend schools. One of few, to be honest.
Besides, the Chinese kids get a nice break from school. And it's cold too; that will help limit spread if any of them do end up showing symptoms.
Martinhouse
Deceased
I have breathing problems but my face is so small and bony that no rigid mask will fit properly. I also have that problem of my glasses fogging up. I've learned to fold a paper mask in half and wear it over only my mouth and inhale through the mask and exhale out my nose. No more fogged glasses. I still feel like I'm not getting enough oxygen (I'm probably not!) but breathing this way is a habit now for me and it's the best I can do.
The bill of a ball cap can also contribute to glasses getting fogged, especially in addition to a face mask.
The bill of a ball cap can also contribute to glasses getting fogged, especially in addition to a face mask.
JMG91
Veteran Member
The Organic Prepper has a great article about different masks, and what each one is good for.
A Prepper's Guide to Respirator Masks - The Organic Prepper
A respirator mask is a prep that is potentially lifesaving, doesn’t cost a lot of money, and is oft-overlooked in the prepper world. Some folks like to invest in gas masks (which, of course, are irreplaceable during certain types of disasters) or they forget about respiration altogether.
The importance of something that can help you breathe without sucking harmful particles or vapors into your lungs cannot be overstated. After all, in the prepper’s adage of 3, air comes first:
3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food
I recommend keeping disposable masks on hand. They aren’t just for people whose budget is tight. Disposable masks can be used in many different scenarios in which a gas mask may not be practical.
It’s interesting to note that in China, the particulate levels due to pollution are so high that many people won’t leave their homes without donning a protective mask. (source)
Classifications of masks
A major question when purchasing respirator masks is which kind to get.
There are many different classifications, but today, we’ll discuss 3 popular types: the N, R, and P series masks.
The letter in the classification indicates the resistance of the mask to oil.
- N – is not resistant to oil
- R – is resistant to oil
- P – is oil-proof
Then there are numbers, generally between 95 and 100. The number indicates the percentage of potential leakage.
- 95 – filters out 95% of airborne particles
- 99 – filters out 99% of airborne particles
- 100 – filters out 99.97% of airborne particles
The type of filter you need depends on the type of threat you are facing. I don’t spend money on anything less than 100 series filters unless it is for something very minor, like working with sawdust. These will screen out the smallest of particulates and because you never know what type of disaster you’ll be facing, it seems to me the best idea to filter out as much as possible.
If you’re only getting one kind, get the P100 type because this will be resistant to just about any threat. It comes in a reusable ($16.95 at the time of posting) and disposable ($8.21 apiece at the time of posting) version. If you get the reusable type, be sure to stock up on replacement filters.
10 Reasons Why Preppers Need Respirator Masks
There are many different situations in which a respirator mask could be handy – or even life-saving.
- Evacuating from a fire: Having lived in wildfire country for the past few years, my vehicle kit contains swim goggles and N100 masks for everyone. In the event of a fire, the goggles will protect our eyes from the smoke, and the respirator mask will help us breathe despite the ash and smoke. These would also be helpful bedside during a house fire.
- In the event of a nuclear strike: If a nuclear strike were to occur, as I’ve written before, it wouldn’t automatically be a death sentence if you are outside the initial blast zone. If you must travel to get away from the radioactive aftermath, wearing gear like a P100 mask, goggles, and a Tyvek suit will provide some protection from radiation.
- During a pandemic: If an airborne contagious illness is spreading, you can prevent inhaling the virus with an N100 or P100 mask. It all depends on the size of the virus (this information will generally be available from the CDC. Ebola, for example, is .02 microns, so the protection of a 100 series mask is essential.
- During search and rescue: After a building collapse, many dangerous particles will be floating through the air. A huge number of first responders and people working at the WTC on 9-11 ended up with multiple myeloma, a cancer of the blood. Thousands of people have fought off the cancer, only to have it reoccur repeatedly. (source) During search and rescue after any type of structural collapse, after an earthquake, for example, protect your lungs from the toxic debris floating through the air. An N-series mask will work in this situation.
- When performing work that involves particles: Protect your lungs with the appropriate masks if you are doing any type of work in which dust particles are prevalent. For concerns about sawdust, for example, an inexpensive N95 mask will suffice. If you’re cleaning up an area in which rats have been present, you’ll need to be concerned about hantavirus, and an N100 is in order. Particles from welding can be very small, also necessitating an N100 mask.
- When performing work that involves fumes: If you are spray painting or using strong chemical solvents, protect your lungs with a P100 mask.
- During a chemical attack…sort of: A P-100 mask may provide some protection during a chemical attack, but some weaponized gases will also absorb into your body through your skin. As well, unless you are expecting the attack and already wearing the mask when the chemical weapon was dispersed, it’s unlikely that you’d be able to get your protective gear on before the damage was done.
- During a riot: Of course, I always recommend avoiding large angry crowds, but if for some reason you’re in the midst of one, be prepared for the opposition to use a method like tear gas to disperse the crowd. Only a P-series mask will help in this situation.
- After a volcano: This seems like a far-fetched scenario, but with all of the recent seismic activity at Yellowstone, the possibility of a volcanic eruption isn’t totally out of the question. One of the biggest risks if you survive the eruption is breathing in the volcanic ash. An N-series mask will protect your lungs.
- Working in an area with mold: Mold spores can be a cause of severe chronic illness. If you’re working in an area in which mold is suspected, an N100 mask will protect you from the spores.
If you are going to add respirator masks to your preparedness supplies, practice putting them on. If you are in a situation during which you need them, seconds may count and there won’t be time to be bumbling around.
Below, you can find links to some of the respirator masks that I recommend:
- Reusable P100 Mask and replacement filters
- N100 mask
- N95 mask (this is a 30-pack)
- Child-sized N-95 mask (2 pack)
- Family-sized N99 (This has adjustable straps and weight guidelines for ordering – some sizes will fit children. Here’s a calculator to convert kilograms to pounds)
In most situations when you’ll need a mask, safety goggles will also be necessary. Get the kind with an elastic band around the back and rubber around your eyes to ensure a good, snug fit. In a pinch, you can use anti-fog swim goggles.
forpetesake
Senior Member
Goosebeans, is this a public school trip that was cancelled? I just wondered if anyone else has school aged children in public school. Is anyone aware of any pandemic plan schools may have? I don't want to send my kid to school if there's a pandemic. I wonder if schools would close.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
It's China, it's a wonder that they even wore surgical masks and gloves! I've read horror story after horror story of women being sterilized with dirty instruments, and the doctors not wearing gloves with filthy hands and finger nails.