Welcome to the dark side!We bought it, a 6 can case, in June of 2011. It has a (edit) - "Best By" - date of December 2013. I did heat it to a boil for a few minutes, and I am still alive.
I think I am immortal, feels good man.
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FOOD Last night I ate 9 year old Hormel chili
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At least welcome his drawers to the dark side.
Is there a known issue on that?
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
I guess it could be considered bio warfare?I was around Fort Meade today. I remember seeing a huge cloud of something in the air to the south-it was at least 3000 feet in the air and dark and menacing. Was that you?
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yes. There is an issue with those lids not staying sealed. I've lost cans that were only a year old. Several members here have had the same problem with them. I'm not saying not to buy them at all, but I only buy them to use short term. Certainly before the expiration date on the cans.
Loretta Van Riet
Trying to hang out with the cool kids.
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Profit of Doom
Dismember
On “Lost”, they showed some cans that were supposedly from the time of Dharma, they had the easy opening lids, which had not been invented yet.
Turret Buster
Gruntpa
I'm alive and well, and living the dream.....thanks for asking.
I kinda remember something about cans being found in a camp from one of the first arctic expeditions, Shackleton maybe?
IIRC, they were sealed with lead and not safe to eat because of that?
Meadowlark
Has No Life - Lives on TB
You should have had vanilla ice cream after, to give you something to look forward too as you scream come on Vanilla Ice CREAM!!!
Profit of Doom
Dismember
I thought there was bird shot or something in the food? Not sure at all, but they figured it out while on the expedition, but could not do anything about it.
Canned Food Sealed Icemen's Fate
Questions are raised about the death of men in John Franklin’s 1845 Arctic expedition.
Sheila Rowbotham | Published in History Today Volume 37 Issue 10 October 1987
Poster offering a reward for help in finding the expedition
Dramatic evidence that lead poisoning was a key element in the failure of Sir John Franklin's 1845 Arctic expedition has come from the result of postmortems conducted on the preserved bodies of three of Franklin's crewmen taken from their frozen graves on Beechey Island in the Canadian Arctic.
The last trace of Franklin's expedition to search for the North-West passage to Asia, with two lavishly- equipped ships and 129 crewmen, came in April 1848 when the surviving crew (Franklin and 23 other members already having died) abandoned HMS Erebus and Terror for a march across the ice. Subsequent search expeditions discovered abandoned equipment, clothing and some human remains, but without finding either the majority of the crew or an explanation for the disaster.
Then in 1984 Dr Owen Beattie, a Canadian anthropologist from the University of Alberta, exhumed the body of John Torrington, the first of Franklin's crew to die, from the grave where he had been buried by his shipmates in January 1846. The twenty-year old sailor had been almost perfectly preserved in the icy ground and a book to be published next month tells how postmortems carried out on hair, bone and soft tissue from the bodies of Torrington and two fellow crewman also buried on Beechey Island, have revealed lead concentrations up to twenty times more than normal, levels that would have resulted in acute lead poisoning.
The results tally with other findings from the skeletal remains of one of Franklin's crew found on King William Island in 1981 and with tests carried out on cans of tinned food collected on Beechey Island. The technology of tinned preserved foods was still relatively new at the time of the Franklin expedition – the patent for tin containers was taken out in England in 1811 – and some of the side seams of the Beechey samples were incompletely sealed.
Documentation of the original contract at Deptford in April 1845 reveals that the order for the tins was rushed, and strengthens the view that a significant portion of the expedition's supply was contaminated.
The authors of the book speculate that the regular consumption of this tinned food, particularly (as a luxury item) by the officers, played a fatal role in the mental and physical decline of the expedition. (Nine of the twenty-one deaths prior to April 1848 were of officers, including that of Franklin.) Insidious ingestion of lead weakened its members to a point where tuberculosis and pneumonia wrought havoc, conditions identified by the postmortems on the Beechey Island bodies. Anorexia, weakness and paranoia would have compounded the effects of starvation and scurvy, leading to the final horrors of cannibalism.
Beattie's tests on the skeletal remains found on King William Island indicated that the body had been deliberately dismembered, bone marrow removed, and what were identified as knife marks, were visible on scattered bones from the arms and the legs. This confirms the early tales of the Eskimo natives to the Hudson Bay search-party of 1854 (which Charles Dickens denounced as slander on the 'flower of the trained English navy'). '... from the mutilated state of many of the corpses and the contents of the kettles, it is evident that our wretched countrymen had been driven to the last resource – cannibalism – as a means of prolonging existence'.
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Questions are raised about the death of men in John Franklin’s 1845 Arctic expedition.
Sheila Rowbotham | Published in History Today Volume 37 Issue 10 October 1987
Poster offering a reward for help in finding the expedition
Dramatic evidence that lead poisoning was a key element in the failure of Sir John Franklin's 1845 Arctic expedition has come from the result of postmortems conducted on the preserved bodies of three of Franklin's crewmen taken from their frozen graves on Beechey Island in the Canadian Arctic.
The last trace of Franklin's expedition to search for the North-West passage to Asia, with two lavishly- equipped ships and 129 crewmen, came in April 1848 when the surviving crew (Franklin and 23 other members already having died) abandoned HMS Erebus and Terror for a march across the ice. Subsequent search expeditions discovered abandoned equipment, clothing and some human remains, but without finding either the majority of the crew or an explanation for the disaster.
Then in 1984 Dr Owen Beattie, a Canadian anthropologist from the University of Alberta, exhumed the body of John Torrington, the first of Franklin's crew to die, from the grave where he had been buried by his shipmates in January 1846. The twenty-year old sailor had been almost perfectly preserved in the icy ground and a book to be published next month tells how postmortems carried out on hair, bone and soft tissue from the bodies of Torrington and two fellow crewman also buried on Beechey Island, have revealed lead concentrations up to twenty times more than normal, levels that would have resulted in acute lead poisoning.
The results tally with other findings from the skeletal remains of one of Franklin's crew found on King William Island in 1981 and with tests carried out on cans of tinned food collected on Beechey Island. The technology of tinned preserved foods was still relatively new at the time of the Franklin expedition – the patent for tin containers was taken out in England in 1811 – and some of the side seams of the Beechey samples were incompletely sealed.
Documentation of the original contract at Deptford in April 1845 reveals that the order for the tins was rushed, and strengthens the view that a significant portion of the expedition's supply was contaminated.
The authors of the book speculate that the regular consumption of this tinned food, particularly (as a luxury item) by the officers, played a fatal role in the mental and physical decline of the expedition. (Nine of the twenty-one deaths prior to April 1848 were of officers, including that of Franklin.) Insidious ingestion of lead weakened its members to a point where tuberculosis and pneumonia wrought havoc, conditions identified by the postmortems on the Beechey Island bodies. Anorexia, weakness and paranoia would have compounded the effects of starvation and scurvy, leading to the final horrors of cannibalism.
Beattie's tests on the skeletal remains found on King William Island indicated that the body had been deliberately dismembered, bone marrow removed, and what were identified as knife marks, were visible on scattered bones from the arms and the legs. This confirms the early tales of the Eskimo natives to the Hudson Bay search-party of 1854 (which Charles Dickens denounced as slander on the 'flower of the trained English navy'). '... from the mutilated state of many of the corpses and the contents of the kettles, it is evident that our wretched countrymen had been driven to the last resource – cannibalism – as a means of prolonging existence'.
Canned Food Sealed Icemen's Fate | History Today
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Copperhead Road
Contributing Member
not chili , but I’ve been using spaghetti sauce almost that old in glass jars, and it has been fine. Seems to have kept well in glass jars.
Oh come on people. I've eaten stuff all the time that is 7,8,10 years after "Best Buy" date. Those small 16 oz canned hams, Tuna in cans 7 yrs old, Dennison chili 8-9 yrs old. Peanut butter from 2012 no problem.
By the way when did Dennisons change their chili to more like Hormel's? Hormels always seem to have a "sauce", Dennisons did not, so I preferred it. Now Dennisons is almost identical to Hormel. I miss that tablespoon of orange grease on top that Dennisons had.
Canned fruit? nope, not going to eat anything older than 4 years old. Peaches, any form of pineapple, fruit cocktail, nope not if it's older than 4 years.
My dad was a school age kid during the Great Depression, he used to say "when your hungry son your going to eat anything" I was a picky eater kid, not so much anymore. Maybe my taste buds have lost sensitivity since I got into my 60's....wait uh oh.... - COVID19!
By the way when did Dennisons change their chili to more like Hormel's? Hormels always seem to have a "sauce", Dennisons did not, so I preferred it. Now Dennisons is almost identical to Hormel. I miss that tablespoon of orange grease on top that Dennisons had.
Canned fruit? nope, not going to eat anything older than 4 years old. Peaches, any form of pineapple, fruit cocktail, nope not if it's older than 4 years.
My dad was a school age kid during the Great Depression, he used to say "when your hungry son your going to eat anything" I was a picky eater kid, not so much anymore. Maybe my taste buds have lost sensitivity since I got into my 60's....wait uh oh.... - COVID19!
Canned Food Sealed Icemen's Fate
Questions are raised about the death of men in John Franklin’s 1845 Arctic expedition.
Sheila Rowbotham | Published in History Today Volume 37 Issue 10 October 1987
Poster offering a reward for help in finding the expedition
Dramatic evidence that lead poisoning was a key element in the failure of Sir John Franklin's 1845 Arctic expedition has come from the result of postmortems conducted on the preserved bodies of three of Franklin's crewmen taken from their frozen graves on Beechey Island in the Canadian Arctic.
The last trace of Franklin's expedition to search for the North-West passage to Asia, with two lavishly- equipped ships and 129 crewmen, came in April 1848 when the surviving crew (Franklin and 23 other members already having died) abandoned HMS Erebus and Terror for a march across the ice. Subsequent search expeditions discovered abandoned equipment, clothing and some human remains, but without finding either the majority of the crew or an explanation for the disaster.
Then in 1984 Dr Owen Beattie, a Canadian anthropologist from the University of Alberta, exhumed the body of John Torrington, the first of Franklin's crew to die, from the grave where he had been buried by his shipmates in January 1846. The twenty-year old sailor had been almost perfectly preserved in the icy ground and a book to be published next month tells how postmortems carried out on hair, bone and soft tissue from the bodies of Torrington and two fellow crewman also buried on Beechey Island, have revealed lead concentrations up to twenty times more than normal, levels that would have resulted in acute lead poisoning.
The results tally with other findings from the skeletal remains of one of Franklin's crew found on King William Island in 1981 and with tests carried out on cans of tinned food collected on Beechey Island. The technology of tinned preserved foods was still relatively new at the time of the Franklin expedition – the patent for tin containers was taken out in England in 1811 – and some of the side seams of the Beechey samples were incompletely sealed.
Documentation of the original contract at Deptford in April 1845 reveals that the order for the tins was rushed, and strengthens the view that a significant portion of the expedition's supply was contaminated.
The authors of the book speculate that the regular consumption of this tinned food, particularly (as a luxury item) by the officers, played a fatal role in the mental and physical decline of the expedition. (Nine of the twenty-one deaths prior to April 1848 were of officers, including that of Franklin.) Insidious ingestion of lead weakened its members to a point where tuberculosis and pneumonia wrought havoc, conditions identified by the postmortems on the Beechey Island bodies. Anorexia, weakness and paranoia would have compounded the effects of starvation and scurvy, leading to the final horrors of cannibalism.
Beattie's tests on the skeletal remains found on King William Island indicated that the body had been deliberately dismembered, bone marrow removed, and what were identified as knife marks, were visible on scattered bones from the arms and the legs. This confirms the early tales of the Eskimo natives to the Hudson Bay search-party of 1854 (which Charles Dickens denounced as slander on the 'flower of the trained English navy'). '... from the mutilated state of many of the corpses and the contents of the kettles, it is evident that our wretched countrymen had been driven to the last resource – cannibalism – as a means of prolonging existence'.
Canned Food Sealed Icemen's Fate | History Today
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