John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
If that was a neighbors dog, I hope they paid you for replacement chicks.
POL Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog and Political Future in the Head
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I kilt one with a bicycle, it was after my baby sister as she was on her girls bike back in the 80’s we were riding to grade school I think I was about 6th her 4th grade
I ran back with my bike, threw it on top of the dog and commenced to jumping up and down on the bike with the dog under it
Near as I can figure the cross bar broke all its ribs and punctured organs and that was that
Groucho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I agree with others. She should have kept quiet. City folks have us outnumbered 1000 to 1 or so. They don't handle their own "icky" tasks and have lots of "feelz" (in general. Not all. Put the daggers away)
"Shoot Muffy? You barbarian, you." Never mind Muffy just ripped the throats out of two of your calves.
"Shoot Muffy? You barbarian, you." Never mind Muffy just ripped the throats out of two of your calves.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
If any communist makes comments to me about her having killed her dog, herself, I will simply reply that she aborted the dog, she didn't kill it. And then wait for their heads to explode.
gunnersmom
Veteran Member
Loose lips sink ships. I tend to live my life my way. And that includes limiting what I tell and to whom I tell it. I keeps life so simple. Just because you know something doesn't mean you have to spill your guts.
Samuel Adams
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Wyominglarry
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I wrote her and asked if she did house calls. I have a neighbor with a barking dog problem.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
A lot of you are going to have a really hard time adapting when the SHTF! Just saying.
dstraito
TB Fanatic
maybe
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
There’s no maybe about it!
33dInd
Veteran Member
For doing what needed done?
How does that make Noem a piece of shit
She did exactly what you said
“What needs to be done”
That's an interesting characterization. Would you please offer your opinion on why you think she's a piece of shit?
This isn't a gotcha or a trap question; I just would like to understand where you're coming from - if your feeling about her is because you disagree with her animal stewardship, her political views or decisions, or her personal life. Or something else.
Thanks in advance.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
The general population does not elect the President and Vice President. State appointed electors do.
Mongo
Veteran Member
Not true. They absolutely can tell the difference.
We have raised chickens for years - free range (they run around the yard). During this time we have had several dogs. Only one dog "couldn't tell the difference".
Guess what happened to him?
EDIT: On re reading the quoted post perhaps THOSE dogs could not tell the difference. This can likely be chalked up to lack of proper puppy training/socialization. In any given group, there are some who just won't get it but this should not be an entire team
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
So Kristi is a farmer or rancher meaning, animal cruelty does not aply to these speacil morality beings regarding animals? I did not read where that poor puppy was sucking eggs or killing her chickens, it was actully playing?
She should not have brought it on the hunt if it was not trained. Any person with an ounce of kindness would have found a home for Cricket.
Kristie just shit her political britches with her animal cruelty boasting, she should be arrested for abuse of an animal!!
She should not have brought it on the hunt if it was not trained. Any person with an ounce of kindness would have found a home for Cricket.
Kristie just shit her political britches with her animal cruelty boasting, she should be arrested for abuse of an animal!!
FreedomoftheHills
Contributing Member
Mongo, I have a lot of respect for you, sir, but you've clearly not spent time around sled dogs!
Huskies are notoriously high prey drive, cat killers and chicken killers. Of course not all. My Mal's best friend was my mom's cat. Still, it's one of those factors that has to be taken into account when people choose a breed.
A bird dog (pointer) shouldn't be so whacked in the head that it escapes from a truck at the neighbors and starts massacring chickens. Still, I'm guessing the final straw was when the goofy thing bit the owner in her frenzy. Sounds like Noem had little kids at the time, and well, you don't take chances with your babies. Time to take out the trash.
Personally, I couldn't care less about her political ambitions, and this story is much ado about not a hell of a lot.
A bird dog (pointer) shouldn't be so whacked in the head that it escapes from a truck at the neighbors and starts massacring chickens. Still, I'm guessing the final straw was when the goofy thing bit the owner in her frenzy. Sounds like Noem had little kids at the time, and well, you don't take chances with your babies. Time to take out the trash.
Personally, I couldn't care less about her political ambitions, and this story is much ado about not a hell of a lot.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
No, but Cricket wasn't a sled dog.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I'm watching the fallout, too.
I don't have a problem with her actions. I just think all that should've been kept private, and that it wasn't makes me wonder about her judgment. While she'll still have a lot of local support, I agree that she's shot herself in the foot for the national stage, and I don't think that was her intention.
We'll see what happens this summer. I still think Trump's VP will be Kari Lake. If not, my second guess is Dr. Ben Carson.
I don't have a problem with her actions. I just think all that should've been kept private, and that it wasn't makes me wonder about her judgment. While she'll still have a lot of local support, I agree that she's shot herself in the foot for the national stage, and I don't think that was her intention.
We'll see what happens this summer. I still think Trump's VP will be Kari Lake. If not, my second guess is Dr. Ben Carson.
I rescue retired military dogs. The one I have now is 9 years old and has more strength and drive than dogs half her age.
I could not handle her when I got her. She chased chickens and ducks along with the occasional feral cat. I got a dog training collar and she is now as good as can be. Killing her was never an option. Yes this woman is a POS in my book and will remain so. She tried nothing but a gun.
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Not quite. Enough said.
Thank you for your answer; it helped me - and hopefully everyone following this thread - understand your point of view. It's not the same as mine, obviously, but it's to be respected.
What a story, thank you.
I can relate to the stories here about tears and crying in the midst of shooting a dog. Having to kill a dog is - with one exception I can remember as a pre-teen - the hardest killing I've had to do. (The exception isn't worth talking about) The fact that it isn't easy and how it causes such an emotional turmoil is just that - it's a fact.
I've never had a problem harvesting food such as cattle, chickens, rabbits, etc. but killing a companion when it becomes necessary for whatever reason is as hard as it gets. And excuse me ladies because I don't mean to demean your contributions when you have to do it, but when it's time to man up and get the job done, I wouldn't want anyone else to do it.
That's true. Watching my first Iditarod (at the TV start in Anchorage, admittedly), I was surprised at how small the racing dogs were. When I was expecting to see bigger Huskies or Malamutes, these dogs were more like border collies with greyhound or something in them. After watching a few years, you could tell that these dogs lived to pull and race. Their joy when they were turned loose to pull the sleds was fun to watch.
They were definitely not well-socialized. They'd fight each other just as much as they'd fight other teams. Some of the mandatory rest checkpoints hosted some real doggie donnybrooks. Probably some musher ones, too, but that was kept under wraps because they were competing for serious money.
This is about the same as the story above. It's another one which is easy to relate to.
DD brought home a manic BM bite dog rescue from a bad place, it wanted to eat me any chance it got
Took me better than a month to touch it, longer to pet it
Now sweetest dog ever, but don’t fafo when DD is walking her sweet malagator dog
I didn’t shoot it even though I thought it would be best for humanity sake, before some poor dude got ate, but I believe it’s a pretty safe dog now and someone would have to really be eff’n around to find out
Took me better than a month to touch it, longer to pet it
Now sweetest dog ever, but don’t fafo when DD is walking her sweet malagator dog
I didn’t shoot it even though I thought it would be best for humanity sake, before some poor dude got ate, but I believe it’s a pretty safe dog now and someone would have to really be eff’n around to find out
bracketquant
Veteran Member
To those who think this story is a nothingburger, it may, or may not, be a nothingburger in South Dakota. I have no idea how that voting population feels about her, and in what numbers. Nationally, she likely has no chance.
The MSM will frame her as one singular thing, a puppy killer, for the rest of her life.
Therefore, no chance for VP. And, most likely no chance for Congress. I don't believe her party would allow her to run, or the national Republican party will then be known as the party of puppy killers. Understand that the average low-information voter is urban/suburban, and that rural folk are only about 15% of the country's population. That makes 85% of the population who treat their dogs as one of their family members. Those are numbers that she never will be able to overcome, and shows how, nationally, she is completely out of touch with the average American.
The MSM will frame her as one singular thing, a puppy killer, for the rest of her life.
Therefore, no chance for VP. And, most likely no chance for Congress. I don't believe her party would allow her to run, or the national Republican party will then be known as the party of puppy killers. Understand that the average low-information voter is urban/suburban, and that rural folk are only about 15% of the country's population. That makes 85% of the population who treat their dogs as one of their family members. Those are numbers that she never will be able to overcome, and shows how, nationally, she is completely out of touch with the average American.
BadMedicine
Would *I* Lie???
Story time:
"Sled dog teams" didn't become a thing until the Russia fur traders made forts/posts on the Yukon river, Aleutians and gulf of alaska. This was because they would trade "big money" -rifles, ammo, teas, coffee, material goods, metal goods, for FURS. So natives started travelling FAR AND WIDE from their territories to trade with inland natives and become brokers/middlemen/wholesalers of hides. (Edited to add the russians took many natives as slaves, and native families as hostages to FORCE the aleuts and others to "work" for them in the fur trade. Those closes to the waters edge got it worst because the ruskies could only control small forts and areas at a time and never got far inland.- thus the "broker" middle men, some of whom were surely free and doing it for enterprise.) To do this they needed to harness TEAMS of their big malemute-style working dogs. Northern native dogs remained closely resembling wolves,
PRIOR to Russian contact these dogs were used in as litterla PACK animals with baggage on their backs, or travois, or occasional hooked to sledged, sometimes multiple dogs, hooked in a "fan" layout with each dog hooked directly to the sledge, not in the strait lline you see for racing today. These people moved only seasonally, moved all their goods, and moved slow. A big strong dog was best, and also used for hunting/ companionship/ food if needed.
These big dogs were the norm for sled-dogs ALL THE WAY UNTIL JOE REDDINGTON RE-INTRODUCED/INVENTED the IDITAROD to re-enact the Diptheria-run of the 1925... when famous lead dog 'Balto' (whome we have a bronze memorial of in downtown anchorage, and whom we have STUFFED here in the museum) was (as locals know, a SMALL PART OF) the DASH from Seward to Nome to deliver syrum to an outbreak there. It was a relay-race of teams and Balto was ONE dog on ONE of the teams. 1925 serum run to Nome - Wikipedia
So Reddington Sr started the race up, (Iditarod Race History) sled dogs from all over the world begin competing for the prizes and money. It became a HUGe marketing thing with sponsors, media and big money... now we need FAST dogs with STAMINA.. There was already some sled-dog stock in Russia, and they begin breeding with, YES GREYHOUNDS for legs and lungs. Also other types of hounds and longevity dogs. This why "Alaskan Huskys" as they are now called, come in many coat styles, ear, snout and tail styles. They are a huge mutt-working dog and they only thing they are bred for is ENDURANCE & SPEED. Most racing huskys are about 35-45# And now you know..."The REST of the story.."
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
How is different than being the party of human baby murderers? Not asking for a friend.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
The MSM doesn't frame them as baby killers. They frame them positively as protecting health care and reproductive rights.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Doesn't matter what they frame them as, call them what they are... baby killers. If I were asked about killing my dog to protect others, I'd ask them how this is different than killing a human baby to protect the mothers life? We need to start playing their game, and quit being so damned nice!
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Everything matters as to how it's framed by others, because so many people can't/won't think for themselves. Your question is too confusing for those not able to think for themselves. The MSM frame things in a positive or negative way, in order to coerce the masses into the direction they want them to go. Most people are followers.
And, it's not a matter of being nice. It's a matter of who has a voice. It's who's in near total control of mass media. I'm sure you've heard the news that there isn't a single conservative person working at NPR. Then there's the auto industry that doesn't equip new cars with AM radios. Almost all of AM radio talk shows are hosted by conservative people. A simple coincidence? We can't play their game, because we often can't get on the playing field.
Jeez. The big one wasn't a pit - looked like one of those Cane Corsos or along that same line of thinking. That guy was a goner without some help. Urban packs. God help us.
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