Kerry supporters struggle with disappointment and frustration

potemkin

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6417285

Many Americans suffering post-election blues
Kerry supporters struggle with disappointment and frustration

The Associated Press
Updated: 5:48 p.m. ET Nov. 5, 2004


NEW YORK - It’s a long way from the Manhattan office of psychoanalyst Sherman Pheiffer to the Cambridge, Mass., practice of psychologist Jaine Darwin. But both are in blue states that voted heavily for John Kerry, and on the day he conceded, they heard plenty of distress about the election.

“My patients were incredulous, depressed, angry, very frightened,” Pheiffer said. “Everyone talked about feeling frightened (about) the future of this country.”

Darwin heard the same kinds of reactions. At the end of the campaign, Massachusetts Democrats “kind of let themselves hope Kerry would pull it out,” she said, so patients felt “the roller coaster had crashed. I think we all had a little post-Red Sox magical thinking.”

And among Kerry campaign volunteers, of course, the loss was still stinging the day after the concession.

“If I happened to be on a tranquilizer or Prozac, I would have to triple my dose,” joked Sam Feldman, a 75-year-old retired businessman who lives on Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts but who volunteered for Kerry in Florida.

Elizabeth Marshall, a volunteer at the Centre County Democrats headquarters in Pennsylvania, said people there showed “bereavement, almost. People feel that something they had, which was hope for imminent change, has been taken from them.”

Better moods ahead
The good news, mental health experts say, is that most Kerry supporters will get over their disappointment on their own. In fact, maybe sooner than they think.

“Right now you’ve got them at the depths of their despair,” said Daniel Gilbert, a Harvard psychologist who has studied voters’ emotional reaction to elections. “They’re not going to feel worse in a week. They’re going to feel better.”


In fact, Gilbert said, his work has shown that voters get over their election-day disappointments faster than they predict they will.

“They don’t think they’ll be over it in a month, but they will be,” he said.

Even now, Pheiffer, Darwin and other mental health professionals said they weren’t getting any new patients because of the Kerry defeat. And Dr. David Rissmiller, chairman of the psychiatry department at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-School of Osteopathic Medicine, said there’s been no election-related jump in calls at two New Jersey crisis centers he’s familiar with.

Sadness, anxiety and concern
Temporary sadness, anxiety and concern about the future are understandable responses among Kerry supporters, said Dr. Charles Goodstein, a psychiatrist at the New York University Medical Center.

So when is it time to call a mental health professional? “When something goes on longer than you’re comfortable with, then talk to somebody,” Darwin advised. “You don’t have to have major depression to talk to somebody.”

Healthy reactions to post-election disappointment include talking about it with others and becoming or remaining politically active, experts said.

“I think it’s important to give yourself a little bit of time to grieve,” said Mary McClanahan, a psychologist in State College, Pa., who volunteered along with Marshall at the local county Democratic headquarters.

She described herself as “incredibly disappointed” but also galvanized.

Her fellow volunteers felt the same way, she said. And for both civic and psychological reasons, she said, such people should re-invest that energy in politics.

“Whenever we suffer a disappointment, and there’s a chance to have a future success experience and we don’t take advantage of that, it leaves people with greater regrets in the long run,” she said.
 

timbo

Deceased
It gets down to what my FIL said,"Hold out your hands. You can shit in one and wish in the other. Guess which one fills up?"

They shoulda tried holding their collective breath.
 

sleepymarie

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I have yet to talk to anyone here, (here being New Jersey) who are not upset about the election. But also alarmed that our region of the country is so different inoutlook from the interior. It feels to some like we are two different countries and that has people upset sa well.
 

Satanta

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wow. wonder how many times I get to post this?
 

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cipher

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There are two countries. The red country and the blue country. It seems that they have opposed views about who should do what. Too bad that both have forgotten what freedom really means.
 

SouthernGal

"Don't retreat...reload"
sleepymarie said:
I have yet to talk to anyone here, (here being New Jersey) who are not upset about the election. But also alarmed that our region of the country is so different inoutlook from the interior. It feels to some like we are two different countries and that has people upset sa well.


I keep seeing "we're 2 different countries" popping up - on Christian boards and the DU (I'm just scanning!) board.

It's scary.

Does anyone TRULY feel that we will have a Civil War in this country and split in 2?

Could it really happen?

It seems like the Democrats are just festering out there.
 

NVBadBoy

Senior Member
Now 'they' know what 'we', or at least some of us, felt like during the Clinton regime. I wasn't very happy after the '92 and '96 election results, but I never went on a war path or as irate as some of these people (to say it nicely) on DU. These folks have a lot of anger, resentment and hostility bottled up inside.

I'm reading some other boards (FR, for example) and it's our side that is trying to reach out with an olive branch to their side. However, from what I can gather, their side has no intention of reaching a peaceful and center-line resolution. They are set on absolute and complete political warfare because of the election outcome. Talk about a strife!

Until the next election comes around, I, too, have to say, "Oh well."


NVBadBoy
 
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Satanta

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NVBadBoy said:
Now 'they' know what 'we', or at least some of us, felt like during the Clinton regime. I wasn't very happy after the '96 and '00 election results, but I never went on a war path or as irate as some of these people (to say it nicely) on DU. These folks have a lot of anger, resentment and hostility bottled up inside.

I'm reading some other boards (FR, for example) and it's our side that is trying to reach out with an olive branch to their side. However, from what I can gather, their side has no intention of reaching a peaceful and center-line resolution. They are set on absolute and complete political warfare because of the election outcome. Talk about a strife!

Until the next election comes around, I, too, have to say, "Oh well."


NVBadBoy


What is really funny is here on this board, election night, one of the Libs posted a "Nyah-Nyah-Nyah, I'm gonna have to leave after we win because the Conserves are gonna be rendering their clothing and gnashing their teeth!" kinds of threads and now the shoes is on the other foot and guess what? :rolleyes:

Well, I really wish they would reconsider moving to Canada anyway.... Too damned close.
 

luvfriedokra

Contributing Member
I can only imagine how much prozac and zanax that has been dished out to those poor "blue" depressed Kerry folks in the last couple of days. Typical liberal cure.

IMO, until the democrats kick the liberals completely out of their party, they have no hope to ever succeed against the republicans again. Unlike years ago, the democratic party has changed and is now cocooned with a side of society that most people, even within their own party, can identify with.

It seems to me that democrats and liberals are two different groups and there should be a distinguish between the two. Perhaps a new third party is in order........namely the liberal party. Now that would be interesting.
 

Capt Teach

Veteran Member
Sleepy, you are not alone in NJ. Almost half the state voted for Bush. That's the half in their "right" mind. :D

Several generations of sports where all the CHILDREN get to play, and no one loses. Math tests where 2 + 2 doesn't have to = 4 because it might make the child feeeel baaad, and we have millions of "adults" who can't cope with loosing.
Grow up. Christ, I felt like shit when I was 17 and we lost a football game. I even cried. I thought that was late for growing up. They need to get over it.

In 08 they can run Hillery and we can get a threefer. Maybe by then they'll callous up a bit.

Capt Teach
 

old bear

Deceased
I can remember a bunch of "Conservatives" whining after Clinton was elected for a second term too. Almost none of us expected that to happen. On the other hand, the Dems. make themselves so darn hard to vote for. Kerry's going goose hunting one time did not make up for eleven years of his voting for anti-gun laws. I would have thought that the Dems. would wake up to the fact that Americans do not want their Second Amendment rights infringed, but the liberals tend to live in their own little world. I make no bones that I was and still am against Bush. I think he may be the worst President since the Civil War. On the other hand I can't say that I think Kerry would have been better. The Dems had this election in the bag, if they had just came up with a middle of the road candidate that people could vote for. Bunches of people don't like Bush, but just could not bring themselves to vote for Kerry. Voting for Kerry would be a bit like kissing a pig.
 

vikan

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Yup, if the demo creeps had fielded a decent person as their candidate, I would have voted for that one. But they let the national socialists take over their party votes.

If the US breaks up, the break will be into three parts, the left coast tree hugging ELFs, the greatlakes and new england brahmins, and the rest of us.
 
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