Or if you’re discussing hypothetical comparisons you could just as easily say:
“Now, the key thing to remember, and it's something that rarely gets mentioned: the numbers are about the same for the Wuhan virus and the flu, but there's a vaccine for the flu and none for Wuhan. So in reality the seasonal influenza is a far more dangerous virus overall. Imagine how much worse every flu season would be if we didn't have a seasonal flu vaccination? “
- but we decided to combat the ccp virus by enacting the largest shutdown in American history, we closed school, businesses, colleges, parks across the entire country and still double the number of deaths that occur from a flu season occurred from the ccp virus in the equivalent of half a flu season.
Imagine how much worse it would have been if we hadn’t.
A typical flu season is about 4 months, and we're now 5 months into this. And if you've been following the information here on the board, the actual number of deaths directly attributed to the Wuhan virus is about half the number the media have been throwing around. Half of those Wuhan deaths are nursing home deaths in NY, and a large fraction of the total deaths in the rest of the country are the very elderly as well.
It seems I'm going to have to copy-paste the whole thing after all, because no one remembers how footnotes work anymore. Note item 4 in the list in particular for refutation of your claim about it being twice as bad as a flu season:
James Madison once
said, “A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both.” The coronavirus fascists have succeeded in cementing their illogical, immoral, and illegal policies through the prism of false information about the timing of the virus, the specific nature and severity of the overall fatality rate, the number of actual deaths, and the utility (or perhaps harm) of lockdown policies in actually mitigating deaths – all the while obfuscating the much higher collateral deaths and damage caused by the lockdown itself.
Every day we learn new information demonstrating the lies driving lockdown. Here are some of the most important ones from over the weekend.
1) The shocking inflation of COVID-19 death numbers: From day one, we were
warned that states are ascribing every single death of anyone who happens to test positive for the coronavirus — even if they are asymptomatic — to the virus rather than the clear cause of death. Now, thanks to a lawsuit in Colorado, the state was forced to
revise its death count down by 23 % over the weekend — from 1,150 to 878. The state is now
publishing numbers of deaths “with” COVID-19 separate from deaths “from” COVID-19. As I
reported on Thursday, county officials started accusing the state’s department of health of reclassifying deaths of those who tested positive for the virus but died of things like alcohol poisoning as COVID-19 deaths just to insidiously inflate the numbers. This revision in Colorado is a bombshell story that, of course, will remain unknown to most Americans. Every state needs to do this, and if they did, we would find an across-the-board drop in numbers by at least 25%, the same %age by
which Dr. Birx reportedly believes the count is being inflated,
according to the Washington Post. For example, in Minnesota,
state officials are now admitting that every single person who dies in a nursing home after testing positive is now deemed to have died from the virus, never mind the fact that 25% of all natural deaths in a given week occur in nursing homes and that most cases of COVID-19 are asymptomatic, which means more often than not, they died exclusively of
other causes.
2) States with longer lockdowns had worse results: Kyle Lamb posted a solid analysis on Twitter, grouping states by how long they implemented a lockdown and averaging out the deaths per 100,000 people by each grouping. The results are stounding, as there is a perfectly inverse relationship between how long a state implemented a lockdown and how successful it was in keeping the deaths down. I independently cross-checked these numbers, and they appear to be accurate.
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While this doesn’t necessarily prove that lockdowns cause more COVID-19 deaths (although they
definitely cause other deaths), it’s nearly impossible to assert the other way around – that lockdowns prevent deaths – if we see zero correlation in the data. This is especially true given that Florida is the third most populous state and has the highest concentration of seniors, yet
deaths and hospitalizations are way down since the state reopened on May 4. Florida is more densely populated than Michigan and Pennsylvania, yet
has one-sixth and one-fourth of the deaths per capita, respectively. The same holds true for Georgia, which is a fairly densely populated state. Infections
are down over 40% and deaths are down 31% since reopening. As Secretary of Health Alex Azar
said yesterday, “We are seeing that in places that are opening, we’re not seeing this spike in cases. We still see spikes in some areas that are, in fact, closed.”
3) Outside nursing homes, the fatality rate never warranted such action, even if it would work: Every day we find more hard data showing that the overwhelming majority of cases
are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic, and outside nursing homes, the chance of dying is very low and very limited to a population we can more efficiently shield. For those who are younger and healthier, deaths are almost nonexistent. Spain was one of the hardest-hit countries and has a higher overall fatality rate than others, yet its age-stratified fatality rates mirror what we have
seen in the Netherlands,
Denmark,
France,
and elsewhere. One Twitter commentator has broken down the age-based fatality rates of the comprehensive
Spanish antibody study, and the results are similar to what we’ve seen elsewhere:
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Based on the most accurate antibody testing data available (Spain, 60k, countrywide), you would not be correcr.
IFR is less than 0.7% in Spain, but deaths of old skew the numbers. India is a much younger population so the IFR would be much lower.
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He used
public information to calculate the case data and the population age data, and I have spot-checked some data points and they all seem on target. It’s identical to
what the Netherlands found.
Remember, Spain was one of the hardest-hit countries, but even there,
57% of all deaths and the overwhelming majority of deaths of those above age 80 were in senior care facilities. When you take them out of the equation, the death rates are shockingly low. Yet the same politicians who focused on locking up an entire country failed to care for those in nursing homes. This demographic COVID-19 death
chart from Massachusetts speaks volumes about the targeted scope of the danger.
It’s essentially the same story in every state.
4) Outside New York, this is barely worse than bad flu seasons: While
Europe is opening its schools, almost every U.S. state continues to keep schools shut. Yet according to the
CDC’s latest weekly report, “For children (0-17 years), COVID-19 hospitalization rates are
much lower than influenza hospitalization rates at comparable time points during recent influenza seasons.” Even the World Health Organization’s top scientist just
admitted that children “seem less capable of spreading the virus.” As for everyone else, if you
look at the bump in overall deaths for most states (outside the tristate area), they are either at, slightly below, or slight above the 2018 flu season. But at
this point, everything is way below a typical flu season in the winter, yet you wouldn’t know it from listening to the media.
According to the CDC, hospitalizations and deaths have been declining in all 10 designated regions for the past 3-7 weeks. Still, we are now being more fascist that
even Italy in violating civil rights.
5) Excess deaths are from the lockdowns, not the virus: While there is zero evidence that lockdowns saved any lives of coronavirus patients, there is
clear evidence they cost other lives. It has been observed in a number of states that there are excess deaths being detected, primarily from people dying at home. The CDC is predicting
21,462-40,097 excess deaths NOT due to COVID-19, likely from those too scared to come to the ER because of the exaggerated risk being associated with COVID-19. Also, a recent
analysis of excess deaths in England
shows that they are seeing thousands of people dying at home from other symptoms because of the lockdown.
6) Social distancing was invented by a high-school kid and politicians, not scientists: Jeffrey Tucker of the American Institute for Economic research reports that the origin of this cult of “social distancing” being used for totalitarian lockdowns was
the brainchild of a high schooler’s sociology paper in 2006, promoted by the Bush administration during the avian flu. It was widely mocked by the epidemiological community, including by Johns Hopkins, for “causing the potential for a
‘serious adverse outcome,’” thereby ensuring that “a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe.”
How have we allowed such an illogical approach to crush our liberties, economy, hospitals, education, and criminal justice? How have we lost our freedoms?
The answer is that the public is not getting the right information. This is why the political class is doing everything in its power to censor anyone who dares question the idolatry of this lockdown cult. YouTube has
censored the videos of Knut Wittkowski, who was a top epidemiologist in Germany and then served as the head of biostatistics, epidemiology, and research design at Rockefeller University. One would think we’d want to hear his opinion, but there is only one view that is allowed to gain traction. Why is it that only one side is scared of the information of the other side?
As James Madison warned, “Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”