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paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Folks , THIIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE.... HAVE someone you know who is comfortable with mathematics double check your dosage.

PS: grammer and spellin mistakes are mine, i am not a native English speeker.


1. you need to know how much you or your dog weigh, in kilograms. 1 kilogram = 2.23 pounds so take
your weight (in pounds) and divide by 2.23 (pounds per Kg) will give your weight in kg or kilograms. Example: 100lb human / 2.23 kg/lb=44.8,kg

2. Next you need the recommended dose for humans. A very conservative dose for " Mr Iver" is 0.2 milligrams (200 micrograms) per kilogram (kg) per day in one dose by mouth once a day (the day you are exposed to virus or you start filling sick) on days 1 and 3. Example: 0.2mg/kg dose = 0.2 x 44.8 kg small human, = approx 8mg

3. Next you need the drug concentration in the dosage form you are going to use, IV vial or horse paste.

4 All drug concentrations are expressed as a percent..... Example 1% Ivermectin solution = 1 gram per 100ml volume

5. To calulate your dose of "oral Mr Ivermectin paste" you : 8mg total dose divided by the strength of your stock medication (the tube of paste or the sterile glass vial )

Example 1000 mg = 1 gram, take 8mg dose and divide by 1 then times 100 to get your volume of stock paste or liquid. You must use the same units of measurement, so you have to convert back and forth between pounds (lbs) and kilograms (kg) and grams to milligrams.

6. 8mg dose = 0.8 grams, 0.8 grams / 1 gram/ kg x 48kg (100 lbs) = 9 grams or 9000 milligrams

Tablets are available from outside the USA and they maybe 12mg tablets (India)

So in the about example, a 100 pound dog or human would take a approximately 2/3rds, two thirds of a tablet. You do not need a pharmacy balance or scale to measure.... Art vs science.

Chemistry/ Pharmacy refresher education.


Reading time: 0.1 Arn



The Solution to Dilution
Posted on January 7, 2014 by Andrew Coggins


When put on the spot can you tell ‘how many milligrams of Lignocaine (lidocaine) there are in 5mls of a 1 percent solution?
Well, don’t worry if you are not sure, panic is most people’s initial thought. In healthcare the classic confusion exists with “%” solutions and “1:1000” dilutions.
injectable drugs_PR.jpg

In this post we would like to talk about drug dilutions for injectable medications. There is a particular focus on adrenaline (epinephrine). We set out a helpful introduction for average people like us to the supposedly simple yet confusing concepts.
KEY POINTS
  • It is easy to confuse when rushing or in an emergency.
  • It is critical to know Drug Dilution by heart for drugs such as Adrenaline (Epinephrine).
Paediatric Entertainment Solution (1:1000) Paediatric Entertainment Solution (“P.E.S.”) (1:1000 dilution or 0.1%) RSS icon
The Boring Bit

just 2 minutes (promise) of back to school chemistry:
  • If you recall back to school, in chemistry class ‘weights’ rather than ‘volumes’ are often used in reference to chemical substances.
  • Using weight of a chemical or drug can be confusing when we are dealing with medications that are diluted because diluted drugs have different concentrations
  • In this post we make a Basic Assumption for the properties of fluids using water at 4 degrees celsius as an example (shown in the blue picture below)
Screen shot 2014-01-08 at 9.20.48 AM
What does this mean?
It means that 100mls of Water has a weight of 100g (at 4 Degrees Celsius**).
From this we can say that a 100% solution would be 1 gram of drug in 1ml of volume
Key Applications for Healthcare:
  • There is 1 gram in 1 ml
    • Therefore, as far as medications are concerned a 1 in 1 (1 gram per 1ml) Solution is the same as a 100% Solution. These Solutions have 100g of drug in 100mls of Fluid
    • 1% is a common drug dilution. A 1% (the same as 1:100)
      • This solution would have 1g per 100mls:
      • There are 1000mg in 1 gram
      • So this is also 1000mg per 100ml
      • = 1000mg per 100ml
      • = 10mg per 1ml
** Why 4 degrees? – Water is at its ‘most dense’ at 4 Degrees Celsius. Upon freezing, the density of water decreases by about 9% (If this was not the case the world would be a much different place where Ice would sink in your drink and to the bottom of the ocean). From our point of view the difference between 4 degrees and room temperature where drugs are stored is minimal
We will talk more below about this below in terms of two important examples:
(1) Lignocaine – ‘1%’ (can also be known as 1:100 dilution)
(2) Adrenaline (epinephrine) – ‘0.1%’ (also commonly known as 1:1000 dilution)

If you have time have these drug vials to hand to look at as you read the rest of this post.

Concentration
(Percentages and Ratios)
Medications in solution can be used for injection (e.g. IM, IV, SC, IO, IT) and administered by the various other routes.
Medications in solution have various different concentrations and potencies (e.g. IV adrenaline (epinephrine) is very potent and therefore a vial is relatively ‘dilute’). ‘Potency’ refers to the amount of drug required to produce an effect. Some drugs produce a powerful effect at minute doses (0.01 grams of IV adrenaline) and others need a large dose to have a therapeutic effect for our patient (5 grams of Magnesium)
 
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Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Folks , THIIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE.... HAVE someone you know who is comfortable with mathematics double check your dosage.

PS: grammer and spellin mistakes are mine, i am not a native English speeker.


1. you need to know how much you or your dog weigh, in kilograms. 1 kilogram = 2.23 pounds so take
your weight (in pounds) and divide by 2.23 (pounds per Kg) will give your weight in kg or kilograms. Example: 100lb human / 2.23 kg/lb=44.8,kg

2. Next you need the recommended dose for humans. A very conservative dose for " Mr Iver" is 0.2 milligrams (200 micrograms) per kilogram (kg) per day in one dose by mouth once a day (the day you are exposed to virus or you start filling sick) on days 1 and 3. Example: 0.2mg/kg dose = 0.2 x 44.8 kg small human, = approx 8mg

3. Next you need the drug concentration in the dosage form you are going to use, IV vial or horse paste.

4 All drug concentrations are expressed as a percent..... Example 1% Ivermectin solution = 1 gram per 100ml volume

5. To calulate your dose of "oral Mr Ivermectin paste" you : 8mg total dose divided by the strength of your stock medication (the tube of paste or the sterile glass vial )

Example 1000 mg = 1 gram, take 8mg dose and divide by 1 then times 100 to get your volume of stock paste or liquid. You must use the same units of measurement, so you have to convert back and forth between pounds (lbs) and kilograms (kg) and grams to milligrams.

6. 8mg dose = 0.8 grams, 0.8 grams / 1 gram/ kg x 48kg (100 lbs) = 9 grams or 9000 milligrams

Tablets are available from outside the USA and they maybe 12mg tablets (India)

So in the about example, a 100 pound dog or human would take a approximately 2/3rds, two thirds of a tablet. You do not need a pharmacy balance or scale to measure.... Art vs science.

Chemistry/ Pharmacy refresher education.


Reading time: 0.1 Arn



The Solution to Dilution
Posted on January 7, 2014 by Andrew Coggins


When put on the spot can you tell ‘how many milligrams of Lignocaine (lidocaine) there are in 5mls of a 1 percent solution?
Well, don’t worry if you are not sure, panic is most people’s initial thought. In healthcare the classic confusion exists with “%” solutions and “1:1000” dilutions.
injectable drugs_PR.jpg

In this post we would like to talk about drug dilutions for injectable medications. There is a particular focus on adrenaline (epinephrine). We set out a helpful introduction for average people like us to the supposedly simple yet confusing concepts.

Paediatric Entertainment Solution (1:1000) Paediatric Entertainment Solution (“P.E.S.”) (1:1000 dilution or 0.1%) RSS icon
The Boring Bit

just 2 minutes (promise) of back to school chemistry:
  • If you recall back to school, in chemistry class ‘weights’ rather than ‘volumes’ are often used in reference to chemical substances.
  • Using weight of a chemical or drug can be confusing when we are dealing with medications that are diluted because diluted drugs have different concentrations
  • In this post we make a Basic Assumption for the properties of fluids using water at 4 degrees celsius as an example (shown in the blue picture below)
Screen shot 2014-01-08 at 9.20.48 AM
What does this mean?
It means that 100mls of Water has a weight of 100g (at 4 Degrees Celsius**).
From this we can say that a 100% solution would be 1 gram of drug in 1ml of volume
Key Applications for Healthcare:

** Why 4 degrees? – Water is at its ‘most dense’ at 4 Degrees Celsius. Upon freezing, the density of water decreases by about 9% (If this was not the case the world would be a much different place where Ice would sink in your drink and to the bottom of the ocean). From our point of view the difference between 4 degrees and room temperature where drugs are stored is minimal
We will talk more below about this below in terms of two important examples:
(1) Lignocaine – ‘1%’ (can also be known as 1:100 dilution)
(2) Adrenaline (epinephrine) – ‘0.1%’ (also commonly known as 1:1000 dilution)

If you have time have these drug vials to hand to look at as you read the rest of this post.

Concentration
(Percentages and Ratios)
Medications in solution can be used for injection (e.g. IM, IV, SC, IO, IT) and administered by the various other routes.
Medications in solution have various different concentrations and potencies (e.g. IV adrenaline (epinephrine) is very potent and therefore a vial is relatively ‘dilute’). ‘Potency’ refers to the amount of drug required to produce an effect. Some drugs produce a powerful effect at minute doses (0.01 grams of IV adrenaline) and others need a large dose to have a therapeutic effect for our patient (5 grams of Magnesium)
Thank you! Excellent post. It's been a long time since I've been in a Chemistry class. Printing it out for future reference!
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Thank you for pointing that out, ST (the paste is 1.87% ivermectin) because I was going to add another question to the formula provided above (thank you, Mr. P. Bunyan). I simply cannot compute with accuracy when confronted with conversions. I'm sorry to be taking up time of others here but appreciate your assistance. Seeker
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thank you for pointing that out, ST (the paste is 1.87% ivermectin) because I was going to add another question to the formula provided above (thank you, Mr. P. Bunyan). I simply cannot compute with accuracy when confronted with conversions. I'm sorry to be taking up time of others here but appreciate your assistance. Seeker
I'm of no help to you, Seeker, but that's the great thing about this forum. Someone who has the expertise, will help and you should ask! This is a wonderful family.
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
No, but I would certainly get one if it would help. Does my weight then translate it to grams of the paste because I'm so petite? I'm lost reading the charts. Thanks for any clues.
Sorry I haven't answered earlier.
I had a problem with the markings on the horse paste syringe. The paste apparently got hot at some point before I got it, so it ran down the inside of the syringe body. When the plunger was pushed, the paste started coming out way before the markings could be used. In other words, the marking wouldn't work. You might not have this problem. But I worked out an alternative way to measure, by weight of the paste.

Since the amounts used are so small, a scale that measures small amounts was needed. I used a scale that had a maximum capacity of 10 grams. (The scales are available on ebay, amazon, etc.). There's about 6 grams of paste in the syringe. It is adequate for 1250 pounds. So I divided 6 grams by 1250 pounds. That comes out to .0048 grams per pound.

So let's say you weigh 100 pounds. 100 X .0048 = .48 grams, or .50 is close enough.
Just multiply your weight by .0048 and that's the amount you take.
BTW, there was a video posted a few days ago where a doctor said that a person could take up to 10X the dose normally taken, and that the results are better when more is taken. I would still be conservative with this stuff, however.

Tip: when weighing this stuff out, I used a very, very thin rolling paper to smear the paste on so that I could use the tare function on the scale, but not effect the scale by using something else too heavy. When you get the right amount of paste on the rolling paper, just pop it in your mouth and swallow the whole thing. Wash it down with water, followed by a small amount of something to alleviate the awful taste.

I hope this helps.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I can not locate the thread here in TB, but here’s the story:


EDMOND, Okla. —
When you tell someone a medicine for dogs cured your cancer, you better be ready for some skeptics, but Joe Tippens says it saved his life, and the lives of others.

Now, even cancer researchers are open to the possibility it might be true.


My stomach, my neck, my liver, my pancreas, my bladder, my bones -- it was everywhere," Tippens said.

Tippens said he was told to go home, call hospice and say his goodbyes two years ago.

The doctors were unanimous, he was going to die of small cell lung cancer.


"Once that kind of cancer goes that far afield, the odds of survival are less than 1 percent, and median life expectancy is three months," Tippens said.

Tippens said he went from 220 pounds to 110.

"I was a skeleton with skin hanging off of it," he said. "It was difficult."

But that was January of 2017. Today, Tippens is very much alive and what he credits for his survival has doctors scratching their heads, and the rest of us raising eyebrows.

"About half the people think I'm just crazy," he said. "And about half the people want to know more and dig deeper."


Tippens said he received a tip from a veterinarian, of all people. And in his desperation, he turned from people medicine to dog medicine.

Specifically, something you give your dog when it has worms.

"The truth is stranger than fiction, you know?" Tippens said, laughing.

Just three months later, Tippens says, his cancer was gone.

"I'm usually skeptical, and I was and maybe still am about this one," said Stephen Prescott, president of the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation. "But there's interesting background to this."

Cancer researchers like Prescott are skeptical, but they also are not dismissing this anti-parasitic's potential.

He says Tippens is not the first person to potentially benefit, and not the last.

"Scientists and many credible places have done work on this for years," Prescott said.

But was it the de-wormer, or was it something else?

Tippens took the dog medicine with daily vitamin E supplements and CBD oil.

He was also taking an experimental cancer-fighting drug. But Tippens says out of the 1,100 patients on that clinical trial, he was the only one cleared of cancer.

Tippens says he was saved by the dog de-wormer and he plans to take it for the rest of his life.

"My insurance company spent $1.2 million on me with traditional means before I switched to a $5 a week medicine that actually saved me," he said.


Prescott says he's now working with Tippens to organize a case study.

"We're going to do it and see if we can confirm, in a very rigorous and clinical sort of way, that these patients had that kind of response," Prescott said.

As for Tippens: "I've got over 40 success stories other than me," he said.

He's sharing his story on an online blog that has been read more than 100,000 times. Most of the feedback is positive, or curious.

Some accuse Tippens of giving cancer patients false hope.


"Oh, how do I answer that?" he sighed. "I mean, if I've saved one other person other than me, it's worth it to me."

All we know for sure is that Tippens is alive.

In time, perhaps we'll also know if this medicine made for man's best friend might also be man's newest cancer cure.
Last time I checked, he was up to more than 75 success stories.

Southside
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Are you confusing fenbendazole with ivermectin? I make no claim on either.
I vaguely remember the discussion on fenbendazole long before covid.

Due diligence on our part is critical.

Yes, I did. Both are for de-worming, and FenBen contains Ivermectin 1.87%. You are correct, they are not the same.

Thank you.

Southside
 

summerthyme

Administrator
_______________
Yes, I did. Both are for de-worming, and FenBen contains Ivermectin 1.87%. You are correct, they are not the same.

Thank you.

Southside
Or, not! Fenben is *fenbendazole*, an antiparasitic which has a completely different mode of action than ivermectin. Fenbendazole has been showing promise against some types of cancer, and ivermectin apparently is a fairly potent antiviral.

Summerthyme
 

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Sorry I haven't answered earlier.
I had a problem with the markings on the horse paste syringe. The paste apparently got hot at some point before I got it, so it ran down the inside of the syringe body. When the plunger was pushed, the paste started coming out way before the markings could be used. In other words, the marking wouldn't work. You might not have this problem. But I worked out an alternative way to measure, by weight of the paste.

Since the amounts used are so small, a scale that measures small amounts was needed. I used a scale that had a maximum capacity of 10 grams. (The scales are available on ebay, amazon, etc.). There's about 6 grams of paste in the syringe. It is adequate for 1250 pounds. So I divided 6 grams by 1250 pounds. That comes out to .0048 grams per pound.

So let's say you weigh 100 pounds. 100 X .0048 = .48 grams, or .50 is close enough.
Just multiply your weight by .0048 and that's the amount you take.
BTW, there was a video posted a few days ago where a doctor said that a person could take up to 10X the dose normally taken, and that the results are better when more is taken. I would still be conservative with this stuff, however.

Tip: when weighing this stuff out, I used a very, very thin rolling paper to smear the paste on so that I could use the tare function on the scale, but not effect the scale by using something else too heavy. When you get the right amount of paste on the rolling paper, just pop it in your mouth and swallow the whole thing. Wash it down with water, followed by a small amount of something to alleviate the awful taste.

I hope this helps.

please buy a new syringe of horse past so you can use the markings on the syringe...

The ivermectin standard dose for an adult, in India, is 12mg given once a day, number of days is up to you and your advisors
 

summerthyme

Administrator
_______________
please buy a new syringe of horse past so you can use the markings on the syringe...

The ivermectin standard dose for an adult, in India, is 12mg given once a day, number of days is up to you and your advisors
Not really necessary. I've used a lot of tubes of ivermectin paste worming horses, and I'll just say the dosing using the paste syringe is, er... less than exact.

Here's a couple of posts I made earlier:

The human dosage of ivermectin is 68 mcg/pound (micrograms... 1/1000 of a milligram). For 190#, you'd want 12.9 milligrams. Human tablets of ivermectin come in 6 and 12 mg tablets.

(Note... this is a slightly lower dose than the "1 ug/pound" dose most are using. I oulled it off the Mayo Clinic site)


You can take the paste worker designed for horses instead, as it is flavored and formulated specifically for oral use. But it's harder to get accurate dosing with the paste. 650 mgs of paste provides just about 12 mgs of active ivermectin. For the bigger folks, a gram equals aboupt 19 mgs ivermectin. Gram scales are available everywhere and are inexpensive.

Summerthyme
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
please buy a new syringe of horse past so you can use the markings on the syringe...

The ivermectin standard dose for an adult, in India, is 12mg given once a day, number of days is up to you and your advisors
Why? Weighing it is more accurate, by far.
The Indian dose doesn't account for weight, which is not the best way to handle this med.
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
Run time 35:38

This video was in another thread, but I thought that although very dull and parochial, has some good information.
FF to 29:30 minute mark to hear the doc say that up to 10X the standard dose is OK.
He's used Ivermectin in patients and probably knows what he's talking about.
Personally, I would be reluctant to go past the minimum dose, unless I was showing symptoms.
 
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nwillitts

Veteran Member
This video was in another thread, but I thought, that although very dull and parochial, has some good information.
FF to 29:30 minute mark to hear the doc say that up to 10X the standard dose is OK.
He's used Ivermectin in patients and probably knows what he's talking about.
Personally, I would be reluctant to go past the minimum dose, unless I was showing symptoms.
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told ya.
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Actually, in India, you can buy ivermectin in tablets in 3, 6, 9 and 12 mg strengths. A combination of them is given depending on bodyweight.

Summerthyme


Just got my order, but will have to check for dosage. Saving for "if".

Bumping thread due to recent interest....
 

LittleYellowFlower

Flower Whisperer
The dosing I've seen is taking it twice, either on day 1 and 2, or 1 and 3. DO NOT take it daily, or multiple times in a month. It stays in the body, and can build up to toxic levels.

Summerthyme

“People I know” take dose one on the first day, ten days later they take the second dose and continue every 45 days after that as a preventative. The horse paste can be bought on Amazon as well.
 
What is the price from ADC? I can't afford to buy any now, but maybe another time. I am using the paste now. If the price is under $20 i can probably afford it and put money on the Walmart card. No more credit cards as ex stopped paying on them.
 
Give us an approximate body weight and we'll do the math...

For a 150# person, 650 mgs of paste provides almost exactly 12 mgs of ivermectin.

Summerthyme
I am confused too. I am very bad at numbers. All i have is the horse paste. I put the marker past the 250 lb mark where the next one should be half which is 125 and i weigh about 125 or more since i'm eating more this winter. In Dec in the hosp i weighed 122. Then a week ago i weighed 127 so around there somewhere. I'm gonna start to take it 2x a month. I was doing it once a month, but i see on FLCCC it says every 2 wks. The next mark on the tube does not SAY 125. It's just a mark, but it's the lower mark to the left. The higher marks are to the right and they are numbered. I guess i'm confused cuz that lower mark is not numbered. The last number on the tube is 250 so i am assuming that the next mark to the left would be half of that which would be 125?

Oh i thought i read take every 2 wks? Now i see it says 4 wks. I was reading on my phone before which has small print. So is it two or four weeks?
 
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Saturday December 26 was tested for virus said I was positive have been taking ivermectin paste every other day it’s the 30th and seem to be getting better.
They have a lot of false positives. They cycle it at 40 which makes more people false positive. Supposed to cycle at 30 i read, and then less people would be positive.
 
Thank you for pointing that out, ST (the paste is 1.87% ivermectin) because I was going to add another question to the formula provided above (thank you, Mr. P. Bunyan). I simply cannot compute with accuracy when confronted with conversions. I'm sorry to be taking up time of others here but appreciate your assistance. Seeker
I too have a hard time understanding numbers and conversions. In school i got D's in math and A's in English.
 
Actually, in India, you can buy ivermectin in tablets in 3, 6, 9 and 12 mg strengths. A combination of them is given depending on bodyweight.

Summerthyme
I get Indian pills from India. Called Mukta Vati. It SAYS it lowers blood pressure AND lowers heart beat. I don't check the bl pr anymore, but i know it did help. It DOES lower my heartbeat to 58-60 bpm which is good. If my heart goes to 80 then i know i am either sick or i am having a panic attack. ( I do sometimes cuz living alone scares me.)
 

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
I can't find the de wormer mentioned anywhere in the article.

It's like the PTB's have made writers take the name out.

This is the dewormer that they are talking about. V


NO NO NO................. do not take fenbendazole !!!! You want Ivermectin!!!

I am not screaming, I am Greek, this is how we talk hahahahah
 
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summerthyme

Administrator
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Yes. Fenbendazole has shown real promise for certain cancer treatments, but you want ivermectin alone for COVID.

Summerthyme
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I used the Horse Paste (1.87%) Ivermectin counted out by the notches on the syringe. Put the paste on a slice of apple and down it went. No problem. I was going to dose with the Argentina study of once a month but am now considering changing my mind. Might dose again in two days and then go to once every 30 days. Currently having no symptoms so this is strictly preventive.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
The dosing I've seen is taking it twice, either on day 1 and 2, or 1 and 3. DO NOT take it daily, or multiple times in a month. It stays in the body, and can build up to toxic levels.

Summerthyme


Do you think that this is correct? I decided to look it up, out of concern...4 days?

An 18-year-old female asked:
i am taking ivermectin and applying crotamiton cream on my whole body to cure scabies. when can i drink alcohol after taking the ivermectin?
Dr. Michael Fisher

Dr. Michael Fisher answered
32 years experience Dermatology
Ivermectin: After you take ivermectin, it stays in your body for a little over 4 days. Thus, after 4 days you can drink alcohol.

1 doctor agrees

 

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
vessie said:


I can't find the de wormer mentioned anywhere in the article.

It's like the PTB's have made writers take the name out.

This is the dewormer that they are talking about. V



Amazon.com : Panacur C Canine Dewormer (Fenbendazole), 1 Gram : Panacur For Dogs : Pet Supplies
Amazon.com : Panacur C Canine Dewormer (Fenbendazole), 1 Gram : Panacur For Dogs : Pet Supplies

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NO NO NO................. do not take fenbendazole !!!! You want Ivermectin!!!

I am not screaming, I am Greek, this is how we talk hahahahah
 
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