The Snack Artist
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Every one you can. They will be trying to do the same to you.
WAR It Begins – Representative Ocasio-Cortez Requests Immediate Enemies List for Targeting After Biden Takes Office
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vector7
Dot Collector
The Establishment Media is coming for Trump supporters.
View: https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1325455285452943361?s=19
View: https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1325455285452943361?s=19
INVAR
Sword At-The-Ready
Yes. In fact, they were the ones helping to impeach him. They are the ones pretending they will be neutral while the Left kept promising that they would use the military to purge Trump from office.
vector7
Dot Collector
Angry Michelle Obama Trashes Trump Voters as Supporters of "Hate" and "Chaos" -- After Trump Smashes Her Hubby's Vote Haul Record
View: https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1325518051475906562
View: https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1325518051475906562
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
hey yo - big mike STFU - cuz you STILL jus a nigaho tranny beeeatch
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
They idolize their Communist heros.
The ones that rose to power with enough courage to remove whole populations if needed to create their Marxist Utopia.
The USSR didn't like the reluctance of Ukraine to toeing the Communist line.
So----they TOOK ALL THEIR HARVEST--leaving NONE for the people.
I've read HORRIFYING stories of the starvation / GENOCIDE in Ukraine.
How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY
Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
www.history.com
How will they do it NOW?
Issue ID's--that only "LOYAL PATRIOTS" (to THEM) get--you probably have to swear an oath of loyalty to them--
And DON'T LET THEM BE ABLE TO HOLD A JOB, BUY, OR SELL WITHOUT ONE.
It's not prophecy now--it's VERY REAL AND POSSIBLE to soon become reality.
StarryEyedLad
désespéré pour le ciel
Remember when the media told us that the okay hand sign was a secret white supremacy signal? Guess somebody didn't get the memo!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
So did Russia.
I remember watching their (VERY) old leaders (they weren't called Prime Ministers, but I forget now what they WERE called). Mnay of them were old, overweight, and hardly ever allowed to speak in public--so it was pretty clear they were too mind-gone to be trusted by those REALLY in power, in the background, to reveal their incompetency.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I am on the list several times.....
72 Types Of Americans That Are Considered “Potential Terrorists” In Official Government Documents- You can now be considered a “potential terrorist” just because of your religious or political beliefs.
Posted byKlark JoussOctober 8, 2020
Posted inUncategorized
Are you a conservative, a libertarian, a Christian or a gun owner? Are you opposed to abortion, globalism, Communism, illegal immigration, the United Nations or the New World Order? Do you believe in conspiracy theories, do you believe that we are living in the “end times”?
If you answered yes to any of those questions, you are a “potential terrorist” according to official U.S. government documents.
At one time, the term “terrorist” was used very narrowly. The official definition of terrorism is “The use, or threat, of force with the intention of achieving a political goal.” That makes it pretty clear what sort of people are covered, and for decades it worked well. The government applied the label “terrorist” to people like Osama bin Laden and other Islamic jihadists. But the Obama administration removed all references to Islam from terror training materials, and instead the term “terrorist” was applied to large groups of American citizens.
And if you are a “terrorist”, that means that you have no rights and the government can treat you just like it treats the terrorists that were being held at Guantanamo Bay. So if you belong to a group of people that is now being referred to as “potential terrorists”, please don’t take it as a joke. The first step to persecuting any group of people is to demonize them. And right now large groups of peaceful, law-abiding citizens are being ruthlessly demonized.
Guns have been referred to as “the great equalizer,” and there’s no weapon which can come close to them in that regard.
A lot of the popularity of firearms is due to the fact that anyone can use them effectively, not only the strong and agile. The young, the old, men, women and child can take up firearms in defense of home and family and do so effectively.
But what do you do if you can’t use a gun – or if you don’t have a gun — to protect yourself?
Below is a list of 72 types of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” and “potential terrorists” in official U.S. government documents. To see the original source document for each point, just click on the link. As you can see, this list covers most of the country…
1. “Those that talk about “individual liberties”
2. “Those that advocate for states’ rights
3. “Those that want “to make the world a better place”
4. “The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule”
5. “Those that are interested in “defeating the Communists”
6. “Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations”
7. “Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful,or undesirable”
8. “Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions”
9. “Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”10. “Anti-Gay”
11. “Anti-Immigrant”
12. “Anti-Muslim”
13. “The Patriot Movement”
14. “Opposition to equal rights for gays and lesbians”
15. Members of the Family Research Council
16. Members of the American Family Association
17. Those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union”
18. Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol
19. Members of the Federation for American Immigration Reform
20. Members of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition
21. Members of the Christian Action Network
22. Anyone that is “opposed to the New World Order”
23. Anyone that is engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”
24. Anyone that is opposed to Agenda 21
25. Anyone that is concerned about FEMA camps
26. Anyone that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations”
27. The militia movement
28. The sovereign citizen movement
29. Those that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”
30. Anyone that “complains about bias”
31. Anyone that “believes in government conspiracies to the point of paranoia”
32. Anyone that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies”
33. Anyone that “visits extremist websites/blogs”
34. Anyone that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views”
35. Anyone that “attends rallies for extremist causes”
36. Anyone that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance”
37. Anyone that “is personally connected with a grievance”
38. Anyone that “suddenly acquires weapons”
39. Anyone that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”
40. “Militia or unorganized militia”
41. “General right-wing extremist”
42. Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N.
43. Those that refer to an “Army of God”
44. Those that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”
45. Those that are “anti-global”
46. Those that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”
47. Those that are “reverent of individual liberty”
48. Those that “believe in conspiracy theories”
49. Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack”
50. Those that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism”
51. Those that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)”
52. Those that would “insert religion into the political sphere”
53. Anyone that would “seek to politicize religion”
54. Those that have “supported political movements for autonomy”
55. Anyone that is “anti-abortion”
56. Anyone that is “anti-Catholic”
57. Anyone that is “anti-nuclear”
58. “Rightwing extremists”
59. “Returning veterans”
60. Those concerned about “illegal immigration”
61. Those that “believe in the right to bear arms”
62. Anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”
63. Anyone that exhibits “fear of Communist regimes”
64. “Anti-abortion activists”
65. Those that are against illegal immigration
66. Those that talk about “the New World Order” in a “derogatory” manner
67. Those that have a negative view of the United Nations
68. Those that are opposed “to the collection of federal income taxes”
69. Those that supported former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr
70. Those that display the Gadsden Flag (“Don’t Tread On Me”)
71. Those that believe in “end times” prophecies
72. Evangelical Christians
The groups of people in the list above are considered “problems” that need to be dealt with. In some of the documents referenced above, members of the military are specifically warned not to have anything to do with such groups.
We are moving into a very dangerous time in American history. You can now be considered a “potential terrorist” just because of your religious or political beliefs. Free speech is becoming a thing of the past, and we are rapidly becoming an Orwellian society that is the exact opposite of what our founding fathers intended.
72 Types Of Americans That Are Considered “Potential Terrorists” In Official Government Documents- You can now be considered a “potential terrorist” just because of your religious or political beliefs.
FACELIES WILL NOT ALLOW posting of anything from the original link you posted, Cub--they call it "spam" now--but I found the same article at American terrorists – dailyoddsandends and WAS able to post it (for now).
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
simple questions require simple answers Carl . . . they will CONTINUE to sit there with their thumb in their butts and do
N O T H I N G
N O T H I N G
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Look what she tweeted at the end---"NO MARGIN FOR ERROR"----code-speak for they've got the engine rev'vd up to DO THE VOTE-SNATCH AGAIN--"in two years and in four years"
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Th
That is to Terrorize And intimidate away any Trump supporters away from backing him for a 2024 run for President! That is the very definition of a TERRORIST!Mixchael Simon's Tweet has already been removed---but the NEW YORK POST is ON this:
AOC facing heat for wanting to archive online posts by ‘Trump sycophants’
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is facing heat for urging her supporters to create an archive of online postings by “Trump sycophants” who may later regret their affiliation with the president. “Is a…nypost.com
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, if true, at that point I've got nothing to lose.
rob0126
Veteran Member
That's the 64 billion dollar question.
Because without the manpower and force to dish out justice, who will?
vector7
Dot Collector
Once the Left re-gain power and they'll alllow levels of normalcy to return. They will manage all things.
We will never have free elections again. Rural America will cling to their Bibles and their Guns. Don't become complacent in the eerie calm.
Their coming. The Marxist will assimilate or annihilate the last remaining resistance to their dictatorship.
An armed Independent American Middle Class.
We will never have free elections again. Rural America will cling to their Bibles and their Guns. Don't become complacent in the eerie calm.
Their coming. The Marxist will assimilate or annihilate the last remaining resistance to their dictatorship.
An armed Independent American Middle Class.
West
Senior
So have I. Then I asked the preacher why he doesn't preach the evils of FIAT currency and taxes on ones (the working poor) laborers.
And his eyes glazed over and had nothing to say.
Because most peoples are brainwashed on the mighty Fed Dollar they sold their souls for.
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Milkweed Host
Veteran Member
This is genuine crazy history in the making. Many years from now, when students read about history,
(our current time period) they will be in disbelief. They will wonder why normal people didn't just shoot
these crazies. Instead we pay them to breed and beat us. We just laid down and let the tracks drive over us.
At some point, we'll have to acknowledge that these infected boils need to go away.
(our current time period) they will be in disbelief. They will wonder why normal people didn't just shoot
these crazies. Instead we pay them to breed and beat us. We just laid down and let the tracks drive over us.
At some point, we'll have to acknowledge that these infected boils need to go away.
A whole lotta supporters are documented at faceborg and the twits.
Followers on both sides.
Time to re-read, "What I saw at the Coup".
Followers on both sides.
Time to re-read, "What I saw at the Coup".
Neither of which affects their value as reactive targets.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
I've got a sneaking suspicion that more than a few of them will be lanced and drained before the show's over
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Hind sight will always be 2020 ! We look back at the Jew's in Germany and wonder how it happened now we know.
I was an Un-person when I was Homeless. Funny thing about being an Un-Person is you have Mobility, Freedom of Movement and no one Sees you. That leaves a lot of Opportunities someone with a home, pets' family that ties them down does not have.
A bicycle or motorcycle and a roadmap. There are homeless shelters, food banks and other resources to take advantage of where you remain an Un-Person as you do what needs be done.
A bicycle or motorcycle and a roadmap. There are homeless shelters, food banks and other resources to take advantage of where you remain an Un-Person as you do what needs be done.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
AOC is walking on thin ice and CAN BE IMPEACHED BEFORE SHE BARELY WARMS HER SEAT.
INVAR
Sword At-The-Ready
rob0126
Veteran Member
so the staff are commies too?
Hummmmm..........
Posted for fair use.....
www.theguardian.com
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party
New York representative denies Movement for Black Lives and Green New Deal cost seats
Tom McCarthy
@TeeMcSee
Email
Sun 8 Nov 2020 05.21 EST Last modified on Sun 8 Nov 2020 14.28 EST
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has criticised the Democratic party for incompetence in a no-holds-barred, post-election interview with the New York Times, warning that if the Biden administration does not put progressives in top positions, the party would lose big in the 2022 midterm elections.
Signaling that the internal moratorium in place while the Democrats worked to defeat Donald Trump was over, the leftwing New York representative sharply rejected the notion advanced by some Democrats that progressive messaging around the Movement for Black Lives and the Green New Deal led to the party’s loss of congressional seats in last week’s election.
The real problem, said Ocasio-Cortez, was that the party lacked “core competencies” to run campaigns.
“There’s a reason Barack Obama built an entire national campaign apparatus outside of the Democratic National Committee,” she told the Times’ Astead Herndon. “And there’s a reason that when he didn’t activate or continue that, we lost House majorities. Because the party – in and of itself – does not have the core competencies, and no amount of money is going to fix that.”
Ocasio-Cortez, who defeated a longtime Democratic politician in 2018 and who won re-election in her Bronx district by more than 50 points, endorsed the Vermont senator, Bernie Sanders, over Joe Biden in the Democratic presidential primary.
Since then, Ocasio-Cortez and her closest allies in Congress – a four-woman group known as “the squad” who all won reelection last week – toed the party line while calling on grassroots activists to boost Biden and Democrats down-ticket.
The truce is over. The failure of the party to operate an online strategy “in a real way that exhibits competence”, Ocasio-Cortez told the Times, made it hypocritical for the party to advance criticism of progressive messaging.
“If I lost my election, and I went out and I said: ‘This is moderates’ fault. This is because you didn’t let us have a floor vote on Medicare for all.’ And they opened the hood on my campaign, and they found that I only spent $5,000 on TV ads the week before the election?” Ocasio-Cortez said. “They would laugh. And that’s what they look like right now trying to blame the Movement for Black Lives for their loss.”
Grassroots activism that produced large turnout in Detroit, Philadelphia and Georgia was crucial to Biden’s win, and if the Democratic party fails to recognise that and incorporate the grassroots, the party disintegrates at the ballot box, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“It’s really hard for us to turn out nonvoters when they feel like nothing changes for them. When they feel like people don’t see them, or even acknowledge their turnout,” Ocasio-Cortez said.
“If the party believes after 94% of Detroit went to Biden, after Black organisers just doubled and tripled turnout down in Georgia, after so many people organised Philadelphia, the signal from the Democratic party is the John Kasich won us this election? I mean, I can’t even describe how dangerous that is.”
Kasich is a former Republican governor of Ohio who campaigned for Biden, endorsing him as a centrist that moderate Republicans could get behind. Such an appeal might have had traction in some places, such as northern Michigan and western Omaha. But Trump beat Biden in Ohio by eight points and half a million votes.
The Ocasio-Cortez interview is full of frank impressions freely shared. Asked what her “macro takeaway” was from the election, she said: “Well, I think the central one is that we aren’t in a freefall to hell anymore.” Asked whether there was anything about the election that surprised her, she said: “The share of white support for Trump. I thought the polling was off, but just seeing it, there was that feeling of realising what work we have to do.”
While there were concerns about the reliability of exit polls this year with so much voting happening over mail and the failure of polls generally, Trump appeared to have won white voters in 2020 by about as much as he did in 2016 – 15 points.
The coming period of presidential transition and the Biden administration’s early days will be crucial to determining whether the Democratic party will incorporate in a permanent way its grassroots progressive engine – or veer off down a path toward defeat, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“So I need my colleagues to understand that we are not the enemy,” she said. “And that their base is not the enemy. That the Movement for Black Lives is not the enemy, that Medicare for all is not the enemy. This isn’t even just about winning an argument. It’s that if they keep going after the wrong thing, I mean, they’re just setting up their own obsolescence.”
Appearing on CNN later in the day, Ocasio-Cortez said: “Progressives have assets to offer the party that the party has not yet fully leaned into... Every single swing seat member that co-sponsored Medicare for All won their re-election, and so the conversation is a little bit deeper than saying anything progressive is toxic.”
Posted for fair use.....
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party
New York representative denies Movement for Black Lives and Green New Deal cost seats
www.theguardian.com
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party
New York representative denies Movement for Black Lives and Green New Deal cost seats
Tom McCarthy
@TeeMcSee
Sun 8 Nov 2020 05.21 EST Last modified on Sun 8 Nov 2020 14.28 EST
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has criticised the Democratic party for incompetence in a no-holds-barred, post-election interview with the New York Times, warning that if the Biden administration does not put progressives in top positions, the party would lose big in the 2022 midterm elections.
Signaling that the internal moratorium in place while the Democrats worked to defeat Donald Trump was over, the leftwing New York representative sharply rejected the notion advanced by some Democrats that progressive messaging around the Movement for Black Lives and the Green New Deal led to the party’s loss of congressional seats in last week’s election.
The real problem, said Ocasio-Cortez, was that the party lacked “core competencies” to run campaigns.
“There’s a reason Barack Obama built an entire national campaign apparatus outside of the Democratic National Committee,” she told the Times’ Astead Herndon. “And there’s a reason that when he didn’t activate or continue that, we lost House majorities. Because the party – in and of itself – does not have the core competencies, and no amount of money is going to fix that.”
Ocasio-Cortez, who defeated a longtime Democratic politician in 2018 and who won re-election in her Bronx district by more than 50 points, endorsed the Vermont senator, Bernie Sanders, over Joe Biden in the Democratic presidential primary.
Since then, Ocasio-Cortez and her closest allies in Congress – a four-woman group known as “the squad” who all won reelection last week – toed the party line while calling on grassroots activists to boost Biden and Democrats down-ticket.
The truce is over. The failure of the party to operate an online strategy “in a real way that exhibits competence”, Ocasio-Cortez told the Times, made it hypocritical for the party to advance criticism of progressive messaging.
“If I lost my election, and I went out and I said: ‘This is moderates’ fault. This is because you didn’t let us have a floor vote on Medicare for all.’ And they opened the hood on my campaign, and they found that I only spent $5,000 on TV ads the week before the election?” Ocasio-Cortez said. “They would laugh. And that’s what they look like right now trying to blame the Movement for Black Lives for their loss.”
Grassroots activism that produced large turnout in Detroit, Philadelphia and Georgia was crucial to Biden’s win, and if the Democratic party fails to recognise that and incorporate the grassroots, the party disintegrates at the ballot box, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“It’s really hard for us to turn out nonvoters when they feel like nothing changes for them. When they feel like people don’t see them, or even acknowledge their turnout,” Ocasio-Cortez said.
“If the party believes after 94% of Detroit went to Biden, after Black organisers just doubled and tripled turnout down in Georgia, after so many people organised Philadelphia, the signal from the Democratic party is the John Kasich won us this election? I mean, I can’t even describe how dangerous that is.”
Kasich is a former Republican governor of Ohio who campaigned for Biden, endorsing him as a centrist that moderate Republicans could get behind. Such an appeal might have had traction in some places, such as northern Michigan and western Omaha. But Trump beat Biden in Ohio by eight points and half a million votes.
The Ocasio-Cortez interview is full of frank impressions freely shared. Asked what her “macro takeaway” was from the election, she said: “Well, I think the central one is that we aren’t in a freefall to hell anymore.” Asked whether there was anything about the election that surprised her, she said: “The share of white support for Trump. I thought the polling was off, but just seeing it, there was that feeling of realising what work we have to do.”
While there were concerns about the reliability of exit polls this year with so much voting happening over mail and the failure of polls generally, Trump appeared to have won white voters in 2020 by about as much as he did in 2016 – 15 points.
The coming period of presidential transition and the Biden administration’s early days will be crucial to determining whether the Democratic party will incorporate in a permanent way its grassroots progressive engine – or veer off down a path toward defeat, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“So I need my colleagues to understand that we are not the enemy,” she said. “And that their base is not the enemy. That the Movement for Black Lives is not the enemy, that Medicare for all is not the enemy. This isn’t even just about winning an argument. It’s that if they keep going after the wrong thing, I mean, they’re just setting up their own obsolescence.”
Appearing on CNN later in the day, Ocasio-Cortez said: “Progressives have assets to offer the party that the party has not yet fully leaned into... Every single swing seat member that co-sponsored Medicare for All won their re-election, and so the conversation is a little bit deeper than saying anything progressive is toxic.”
Cabal
Pissed off Patriot
The military is giddy for Biden because Trump was pulling us out of wars and brining troops home. The General's need war to buy new shiny things.. it's true, that's how it works...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
They had America to run to, if they could get OUT of Germany.
Where can WE go?
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
She SOOOO wants to be relevant!Hummmmm..........
Posted for fair use.....
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party
New York representative denies Movement for Black Lives and Green New Deal cost seats
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party
New York representative denies Movement for Black Lives and Green New Deal cost seats
Tom McCarthy
@TeeMcSee
Sun 8 Nov 2020 05.21 EST Last modified on Sun 8 Nov 2020 14.28 EST
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has criticised the Democratic party for incompetence in a no-holds-barred, post-election interview with the New York Times, warning that if the Biden administration does not put progressives in top positions, the party would lose big in the 2022 midterm elections.
Signaling that the internal moratorium in place while the Democrats worked to defeat Donald Trump was over, the leftwing New York representative sharply rejected the notion advanced by some Democrats that progressive messaging around the Movement for Black Lives and the Green New Deal led to the party’s loss of congressional seats in last week’s election.
The real problem, said Ocasio-Cortez, was that the party lacked “core competencies” to run campaigns.
“There’s a reason Barack Obama built an entire national campaign apparatus outside of the Democratic National Committee,” she told the Times’ Astead Herndon. “And there’s a reason that when he didn’t activate or continue that, we lost House majorities. Because the party – in and of itself – does not have the core competencies, and no amount of money is going to fix that.”
Ocasio-Cortez, who defeated a longtime Democratic politician in 2018 and who won re-election in her Bronx district by more than 50 points, endorsed the Vermont senator, Bernie Sanders, over Joe Biden in the Democratic presidential primary.
Since then, Ocasio-Cortez and her closest allies in Congress – a four-woman group known as “the squad” who all won reelection last week – toed the party line while calling on grassroots activists to boost Biden and Democrats down-ticket.
The truce is over. The failure of the party to operate an online strategy “in a real way that exhibits competence”, Ocasio-Cortez told the Times, made it hypocritical for the party to advance criticism of progressive messaging.
“If I lost my election, and I went out and I said: ‘This is moderates’ fault. This is because you didn’t let us have a floor vote on Medicare for all.’ And they opened the hood on my campaign, and they found that I only spent $5,000 on TV ads the week before the election?” Ocasio-Cortez said. “They would laugh. And that’s what they look like right now trying to blame the Movement for Black Lives for their loss.”
Grassroots activism that produced large turnout in Detroit, Philadelphia and Georgia was crucial to Biden’s win, and if the Democratic party fails to recognise that and incorporate the grassroots, the party disintegrates at the ballot box, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“It’s really hard for us to turn out nonvoters when they feel like nothing changes for them. When they feel like people don’t see them, or even acknowledge their turnout,” Ocasio-Cortez said.
“If the party believes after 94% of Detroit went to Biden, after Black organisers just doubled and tripled turnout down in Georgia, after so many people organised Philadelphia, the signal from the Democratic party is the John Kasich won us this election? I mean, I can’t even describe how dangerous that is.”
Kasich is a former Republican governor of Ohio who campaigned for Biden, endorsing him as a centrist that moderate Republicans could get behind. Such an appeal might have had traction in some places, such as northern Michigan and western Omaha. But Trump beat Biden in Ohio by eight points and half a million votes.
The Ocasio-Cortez interview is full of frank impressions freely shared. Asked what her “macro takeaway” was from the election, she said: “Well, I think the central one is that we aren’t in a freefall to hell anymore.” Asked whether there was anything about the election that surprised her, she said: “The share of white support for Trump. I thought the polling was off, but just seeing it, there was that feeling of realising what work we have to do.”
While there were concerns about the reliability of exit polls this year with so much voting happening over mail and the failure of polls generally, Trump appeared to have won white voters in 2020 by about as much as he did in 2016 – 15 points.
The coming period of presidential transition and the Biden administration’s early days will be crucial to determining whether the Democratic party will incorporate in a permanent way its grassroots progressive engine – or veer off down a path toward defeat, Ocasio-Cortez said.
“So I need my colleagues to understand that we are not the enemy,” she said. “And that their base is not the enemy. That the Movement for Black Lives is not the enemy, that Medicare for all is not the enemy. This isn’t even just about winning an argument. It’s that if they keep going after the wrong thing, I mean, they’re just setting up their own obsolescence.”
Appearing on CNN later in the day, Ocasio-Cortez said: “Progressives have assets to offer the party that the party has not yet fully leaned into... Every single swing seat member that co-sponsored Medicare for All won their re-election, and so the conversation is a little bit deeper than saying anything progressive is toxic.”
I found this in the comments, at an article that was linked in another thread.
Believe it when I see it. This could be interpreted in exactly the opposite way.
I ran some back-of-the-envelope calculations based on historic patterns for the rise of insurgencies.
1. Rising expectations that go unmet is what produces the insurgency. The expectations went up; they're going to go unmet.
2. 3/30. 3% of the target demographic will become active insurgents. 30% will lend assistance to varying degrees (material, financial, intelligence-gathering, security/deception).
3. The 3% figure gives you an active insurgent force roughly the size of the entire US military (active AND reserve), including cooks, clerks, bakers, and candlestick makers across the entire DoD--including Navy and Space Force, who are not going to play any opertional role (indeed, they are a security LIABILITY that will divert force to protecting USN/USSF assets). You're going to have maybe 60,000 skilled infantry dismounts available. That's roughly 35 shooters per grunt.
4. The 30% figure gives you approximately 25 auxiliaries per LEO in the country.
5. We can expect that the government response will focus on the 67% who aren't in the insurgency, because of laziness and incompetence.
6. Hello, you're now at 2x the active military. And the ratio is now 50 aux/cop.
7. 500 Provo active force and maybe 1,200 auxiliaries tied down the equivalent of two mech infantry divisions in Northern Ireland.
8. You sure you want to go ahead with those enemies lists, AOC? You still have time remaining at this station.
Believe it when I see it. This could be interpreted in exactly the opposite way.
I ran some back-of-the-envelope calculations based on historic patterns for the rise of insurgencies.
1. Rising expectations that go unmet is what produces the insurgency. The expectations went up; they're going to go unmet.
2. 3/30. 3% of the target demographic will become active insurgents. 30% will lend assistance to varying degrees (material, financial, intelligence-gathering, security/deception).
3. The 3% figure gives you an active insurgent force roughly the size of the entire US military (active AND reserve), including cooks, clerks, bakers, and candlestick makers across the entire DoD--including Navy and Space Force, who are not going to play any opertional role (indeed, they are a security LIABILITY that will divert force to protecting USN/USSF assets). You're going to have maybe 60,000 skilled infantry dismounts available. That's roughly 35 shooters per grunt.
4. The 30% figure gives you approximately 25 auxiliaries per LEO in the country.
5. We can expect that the government response will focus on the 67% who aren't in the insurgency, because of laziness and incompetence.
6. Hello, you're now at 2x the active military. And the ratio is now 50 aux/cop.
7. 500 Provo active force and maybe 1,200 auxiliaries tied down the equivalent of two mech infantry divisions in Northern Ireland.
8. You sure you want to go ahead with those enemies lists, AOC? You still have time remaining at this station.
How would that work ainit, where the minority party gets a majority vote to impeach someone who the majority party loves? How would the minority party draft Articles of Impeachment when they have to be approved by the Speaker, who is in the majority party?
I’m all ears.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
According to Orion Commander this topic came up on our towns local FB group and there are a LOT of people who support AOC's ideas, especially on keeping lists.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
The ONLY way I see this happening is if AOC oversteps her bounds and goes after Nancy.