CORONA In perspective, how is Wuhan virus different from SARS and MERS?

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
So how is the Wuhan virus different from the SARS and MERS outbreak? Below are the raw numbers I've located of three prior major pandemic outbreaks in the last 100 years.

1918-1920 - Spanish Influenza. Cause of infection - H1N1 Influenza virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm. Possible origin host: Birds.
The global mortality rate from the 1918–1919 pandemic is not known, but an estimated 10% to 20% of those who were infected died. With about a third of the world population infected, this case-fatality ratio means 3% to 6% of the entire global population died.[2] Influenza may have killed as many as 25 million people in its first 25 weeks. Older estimates say it killed 40–50 million people,[3] while current estimates put the death toll at probably 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million.[41][5] These estimates would correspond to three to five percent of Earth's human population at the time.[42]

2002–2003 SARS - Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome: Cause of infection - a new Corona virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm. Possible origin host: Civets (wild cats). 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries, with the majority of cases in China mainland and Hong Kong (9.6% fatality rate)

2012–2013 MERS - Middle East Respiratory Syndrome:
Cause of infection - a new Corona virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm. Possible origin host: Camels. Outbreaks have been reported in 24 countries, with over 1,000 cases of the virus and over 400 deaths. (36% fatality rate)

2019-2020 WARS - Wuhan Acute Respiratory Syndrome:
Cause of infection - a new Corona virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm . Possible origin host: Bats & Snakes? (estimated fatality rate: 2-3% +/-..... based on initial limited "questionable" information)

So is this outbreak better, worse, or simply too soon to tell yet?
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
So how is the Wuhan virus different from ... SARS and MERS

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As to comparison with previous virus outbreaks, the others are history and this one is still breaking news. We won't know how it differs till it is over (or at least under control). Keep in mind there are still cases of SARS and MERS every year...
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
So how is the Wuhan virus different from the SARS and MERS outbreak? Below are the raw numbers I've located of three prior major pandemic outbreaks in the last 100 years.

2002–2003 SARS - Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). Cause of infection - a new Corona virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm. 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries, with the majority of cases in China mainland and Hong Kong (9.6% fatality rate)

2019-2020 Wuhan:
Cause - a new Corona virus. Cause of death: cytokine storm . (estimated fatality rate: 2-3%)

So is this outbreak better, worse, or simply too soon to tell yet?

Look at the correlation here..... 2002 -2003 SARS was originally stated as a minor and don't worry about this issue. The mortality was under reported by the Chinese government. It wasn't until the rest of the world began catching it, that they began to do things about it.

They are doing the same thing here... official deaths 56. Yeah right! How do you make a deadly disaster seem less deadly? You stop counting the dead and sick.

That is how the Chinese save face.
 

Snyper

Veteran Member
So is this outbreak better, worse, or simply too soon to tell yet?
It's very similar to the flu that kills people every year.

The World Health Organization has determined that the flu kills between 250,000 to 500,000 people each year. About 10% of U.S. residents get influenza each year. About 100,000 are hospitalized and 36,000 Americans die each year from the complications of the flu.
Reference: sharecare.com/health/cold-and-flu/how-common-is-influenza

CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT
Sep 26, 2018 · In recent years, flu-related deaths have ranged from about 12,000 to — in the worst year — 56,000, according to the CDC.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
One would think that China has a good reason for the actions they have taken which could really trash their economy. Death rate? Well, there would be corpses littering the streets if 90,000 infected with 10% death rate. Kind of hard to hid corpses. Yet there must be something.

Back to Machiavelli. There have been rumors on the Street that the Chinese economy is on the verge of major collapse, the reason being the Commies lie, to them selves and everybody else. Thus the econ books are cooked (metaphor there) everywhere and the Chinese Gov is just now finding out. What better way to cover the lies and the subsequent crash by blaming it on this rogue virus.
 

marsofold

Veteran Member
It's too early to conclude a 3% fatality rate, considering that the main source for the fatality numbers is the Chinese government, which has a history of lying about past such numbers. It could actually be higher. Time will tell soon, since it has left China and is so catchy.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
It's too early to conclude a 3% fatality rate, considering that the main source for the fatality numbers is the Chinese government, which has a history of lying about past such numbers. It could actually be higher. Time will tell soon, since it has left China and is so catchy.

Yeah, you need to add another digit to any numbers they give you and it should be a lot closer to the truth.
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Yeah, you need to add another digit to any numbers they give you and it should be a lot closer to the truth.

The number of infected and dead probably exceeds 100 to 1 reported....

Time will tell especially when the WARS Virus hits ghettos across the world....

The bodies will be burned in pits than can be seen from space....

Texican....
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Don't let the "numbers" fool you about the seriousness of this outbreak. WE - DON'T - KNOW - THE - TRUTH!! and probably won't for a long time....if we ever do.

Only time will tell. The important thing to always keep in the forefront of our
minds that it is not IF we will have to face a runaway PANDEMIC.....just WHEN!
 
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