I think I can VOTE- Virgil Goode

[LightEcho]

OK.... I got an absentee ballot and have been so disgusted with the corrupt options that I resigned myself to not voting. I happened to see a blurp on 3d party candidates and was fairly disgusted with something about them..... axcept for one of them.

So, I am asking everyone here if they know a good reason for me NOT to vote for:

Virgil Goode

http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/the-issues.html


btw- for me to vote for someone corrupt or the less corrupt of two front-runners is throwing my vote away. I want a real choice of someone with courage, righteousness and not beholden to the global elite.

 

[Jubilation T. Cornpone]

HA HA HA

"I want a real choice of someone with courage,
righteousness and not beholden to the global elite."

You MUST be young and idealistic.

You are expecting the impossible.
Name me ANY president, and I will show you "feet of clay".

If you want to cast a protest vote, find the guy closest to
your "ideal candidate".

Don't delude yourself, though, that ANYONE
(except maybe your candidate)
is going to notice or care.

 

[LightEcho]

"I want a real choice of someone with courage,
righteousness and not beholden to the global elite."

You MUST be young and idealistic.

You are expecting the impossible.
Name me ANY president, and I will show you "feet of clay".

If you want to cast a protest vote, find the guy closest to
your "ideal candidate".

Don't delude yourself, though, that ANYONE
(except maybe your candidate)
is going to notice or care.

This is not about a "protest vote". Not at all. It is about maintaining my honor. I take it that you found no fault in Virgil Goode. As far as feet of clay goes, I am not looking for a perfect man. I am just looking for someone with principles who is not owned by evil masters. I do not compromise on principles.

 

[Jubilation T. Cornpone]

This is not about a "protest vote". Not at all. It is about maintaining my honor. I take it that you found no fault in Virgil Goode. As far as feet of clay goes, I am not looking for a perfect man. I am just looking for someone with principles who is not owned by evil masters. I do not compromise on principles.

I didn't even click the link.
I "get it", I just don't agree with it.
Either Romney or Obama is going to be president, period.
I happen to believe that Romney is a far far better person
than Obama.
It isn't even a close decision for me.
Romney, though he's a liberal, (like McCain who I also voted for)
is a decent person, at least everything I've seen about him
leads me to believe that.

I don't think Obama is a decent person AT ALL.
He is a socialist. He stands for everything I despise.

Therefore, I'll be voting for Romney.

Any vote for other than Romney or Obama
IS a protest vote, because there is no chance AT ALL
of any third party candidate even appearing on the radar.

So, stick with your "principles" and exercise your
right to be stupid.

 

[FREEBIRD]

And once again, we are told that sticking to principle is stupid, when not doing that is what got the country into trouble in the first place.

 

[soccerdad3]

Since I live in Illinois, Obama is going to win my state no matter what we outside of Chicago people want.... In my humble opinion, any vote for Obama or Romney is therefore a wasted vote. I've met with and talked with Virgil Goode. Voting for him is NOT a vote for the lessor of two evils, it is a vote I can be proud of. If you are in Illinois or other states where he is not on the ballot, then write him in. You will be able to live with yourself for the next 4 years..... Also, look for other Constitution Party candidates on the ballot, and if they aren't there, then get to work to get them on the ballot! www.constitutionparty.com

Whoever you think is good, Goode is better!!

 

[Publius]

Perhaps Write In Vote "None of The Above".

 

[TerryK]

Since I live in Illinois, Obama is going to win my state no matter what we outside of Chicago people want.... In my humble opinion, any vote for Obama or Romney is therefore a wasted vote. I've met with and talked with Virgil Goode. Voting for him is NOT a vote for the lessor of two evils, it is a vote I can be proud of. If you are in Illinois or other states where he is not on the ballot, then write him in. You will be able to live with yourself for the next 4 years..... Also, look for other Constitution Party candidates on the ballot, and if they aren't there, then get to work to get them on the ballot! www.constitutionparty.com
Whoever you think is good, Goode is better!!

So what have you done to advance your party besides saying you are going to vote for a constitutionalist candidate.
Have you donated money? Worked a phonebank? Gone door to door handing out flyers?
Do you expect a perfect candidate to just drop out of the sky?
Do you expect the constitutionalist party to gain a following all by itself with no help from you?

People who say they are voting for a candidate in a party that will get less than 1% of the vote, are throwing their vote away if they havent done their level best to build support for that party so their candidate at least has a chance of winning.
A person who votes for a condidate and a party that they know has no chance of winning does not care about what happens to the country.
Feeling good about yourself is NOT reason we vote. We vote for what is realistically best for our country.
You have the right to vote for whoever you want but at least be honest about why.

 

[LightEcho]

Dogshit and monkeyshit are displayed on the sidewalk. Either one has a chance of being stepped in. Off the beaten path there is a patch of clover growing. Very few will go there. I think I will make my bed in the clover patch. Some prefer to make their beds on the sidewalk because this is where everyone else seems to walk. As I walked over to my patch of clover, a man wearing a fine suit and rolling around in the monkeyshit yelled at me: "Racist!" I have gotten used to such insults and they mean nothing to me anymore. Another man wearing clean working clothes was rolling around in the dogshit. He looked over at me and said: "You are stupid! You are not picking a winner and surely you don't care about this sidewalk."

So what have you done to advance your party besides saying you are going to vote for a constitutionalist candidate.
Have you donated money? Worked a phonebank? Gone door to door handing out flyers?
Do you expect a perfect candidate to just drop out of the sky?
Do you expect the constitutionalist party to gain a following all by itself with no help from you?

People who say they are voting for a candidate in a party that will get less than 1% of the vote, are throwing their vote away if they havent done their level best to build support for that party so their candidate at least has a chance of winning.
A person who votes for a condidate and a party that they know has no chance of winning does not care about what happens to the country.
Feeling good about yourself is NOT reason we vote. We vote for what is realistically best for our country.
You have the right to vote for whoever you want but at least be honest about why.

 

[Willow]

I watched the third party debate last night and was not impressed with anyone. There were no specifics...same complaint as the main stream candidates. They showed no grasp of foreign politics and like it or not that is an issue. One candidate said he would immediately balance the budget...but offered no insight as to how he would do that. The Green Party candidate could have been given a position in Obama's cabinet based on what she said last night. The big topics were getting rid of the two party system and abolishing drug laws. Once in a while someone would say something that I could relate to but for the most part I was incredibly disappointed in the quality of the candidates. I agree that our choices in this election are not good. But I don't see where any of the third party options improve that situation.

I've heard all sorts of reasons to vote third party.... principle, honor, make a statement, hate the other two options. In the end we should all be voting for the person that can START the process of digging us out of the hole we have allowed our politicians to put us in over the last 100 years. That person needs to have a strong grasp of the economy and how it works, a good knowledge of foreign policy AND hopefully win in a landslide to stop all those who will say whoever wins...other than Obama...stole the election. Without a landslide we are very likely to sink into major civil unrest by those who will riot...for Obama.

I say start the process because from this election on....none of us should fall asleep. We ALL need to hold the president's feet to the fire...for four years. We can't go back to video games, the game of the week or whatever else keeps us preoccupied. We are the ones that put ourselves in this mess because of apathy and lack of motivation to focus on things we aren't really interested in. If Obama wins...we have no chance at all of saving this country. If Romney wins...maybe. But from what I saw of those third party candidates last night....putting any of them in office will make us a world wide laughing stock. Maybe Gary Johnson...maybe...but I doubt it.

The goal is to save our country....not worry about changing the political system in this specific election or legalizing drugs. We have to at least stop the progressive/Islamic forward motion and then we can really get into the weeds and the details.

Willow

 

[Jubilation T. Cornpone]

And once again, we are told that sticking to principle is stupid, when not doing that is what got the country into trouble in the first place.

Yes, wasting your vote is stupid.

If a better candidate had even a remote chance
of winning, I'd say mount a write in campaign.

Otherwise protest votes are less than meaningless.

 

[LightEcho]

I have not gotten any feedback on Virgil Goode except that he has no major flaws.... and is better than the rest. Thanks for that endorsement soccerdad3. There are many decent leaders in this country who could do us a world of good if we even knew about them and we had a fair election system. I am not happy to accept the MSM candidates as if one of them would actually carry out their oath of office.

It looks like I write in Virgil Goode. My only other option was to trash my ballot.

For the naysayers- my existence is not established so that I can support your candidate. I am not causing Romney to lose. I am not taking a vote away from Romney. He never had my vote. He never qualified. Don't be surprised to see Romney continue to bow to Obama. Bowing seems to run in the family of the globalist candidates.

 

[Floratrek]

I am sure Gary Johnson is my best "stand in" for R Paul. Watch it here, if anyone missed it.

http://special-events.rt.com/US-presidential-election-2012-up-close/

 

[LightEcho]

I watched the third party debate last night and was not impressed with anyone. There were no specifics...same complaint as the main stream candidates. They showed no grasp of foreign politics and like it or not that is an issue. One candidate said he would immediately balance the budget...but offered no insight as to how he would do that. The Green Party candidate could have been given a position in Obama's cabinet based on what she said last night. The big topics were getting rid of the two party system and abolishing drug laws. Once in a while someone would say something that I could relate to but for the most part I was incredibly disappointed in the quality of the candidates. I agree that our choices in this election are not good. But I don't see where any of the third party options improve that situation.

Did you go to the link for Virgil Goode? It clearly states his positions.

I've heard all sorts of reasons to vote third party.... principle, honor, make a statement, hate the other two options. In the end we should all be voting for the person that can START the process of digging us out of the hole we have allowed our politicians to put us in over the last 100 years.

Here is a hint. When you are in a deep hole, stop digging. The existing candidates are owned by the banksters and debt is their power. It is too late now to stop their next phase. They are already completing their asset-grab phase. They have already infiltrated every institution in every western nation. You propose to fight them by doing what has empowered them all along- elect their candidate.

That person needs to have a strong grasp of the economy and how it works, a good knowledge of foreign policy AND hopefully win in a landslide to stop all those who will say whoever wins...other than Obama...stole the election. Without a landslide we are very likely to sink into major civil unrest by those who will riot...for Obama.

Margin of election is moot. What yo have described is many bank CEOs. Would you like Lloyd Blankfein or Jamie Dimon? Maybe Christine LaGarde is more your flavor. Don't worry... US citizenship is optional.

I say start the process because from this election on....none of us should fall asleep. We ALL need to hold the president's feet to the fire...for four years.

And exactly how do you propose to "hold his feet to the fire"? Try it now with Obama..... show us how it is done. BTW- I like my beauty sleep.... and get plenty of it, sans the beauty.

We can't go back to video games, the game of the week or whatever else keeps us preoccupied. We are the ones that put ourselves in this mess because of apathy and lack of motivation to focus on things we aren't really interested in. If Obama wins...we have no chance at all of saving this country. If Romney wins...maybe. But from what I saw of those third party candidates last night....putting any of them in office will make us a world wide laughing stock. Maybe Gary Johnson...maybe...but I doubt it.

We are beyond worrying about being a joke to the world. Nobody could beat Obama on that. Got any good video games you would like to send me?

The goal is to save our country....not worry about changing the political system in this specific election or legalizing drugs. We have to at least stop the progressive/Islamic forward motion and then we can really get into the weeds and the details.

LOL... save what country? You bought into the near-sighted delusion provided by the mind-benders.

 

[TerryK]

Dogshit and monkeyshit are displayed on the sidewalk. Either one has a chance of being stepped in. Off the beaten path there is a patch of clover growing. Very few will go there. I think I will make my bed in the clover patch. Some prefer to make their beds on the sidewalk because this is where everyone else seems to walk. As I walked over to my patch of clover, a man wearing a fine suit and rolling around in the monkeyshit yelled at me: "Racist!" I have gotten used to such insults and they mean nothing to me anymore. Another man wearing clean working clothes was rolling around in the dogshit. He looked over at me and said: "You are stupid! You are not picking a winner and surely you don't care about this sidewalk."

You never answered my question. What have you done to make sure Goode has a good chance at being elected, or do you think all you have to do is stroll down to the polls on election day and you have done your duty as a citizen?
Have you given money to his campaign?
Have you went to his campaign headquarters and volunteered to work for the campaign?
What exactly have you done to make sure your lone vote isn't just a gnat fart in a hurricane?

 

[Stonewall]

It's that nasty lesser of two evils again. It is not going to do a bit of good to vote for Mitt Romney here in Illinois. Obama is going to win this state. He will win all of Illinois electoral votes and that will be that............Think about what I just said. If he wins Illinois by one vote he will recieve all twenty electorial votes.........I am going to try and do some good with my vote......I plan on voting for the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode.
The two dominating political parties in Illinois have made it extremly hard for a third party to get on the ballot. It seems they do not want any competition........The Republican Party in Illinois is'nt worth a hill of beans. They have been drifting to the left for years. Illinois deserves better and the Constitution Party is much much better....Check out the Constitution Party web site....http://www.constitutionparty.com/ Read their platform, it's some good stuff. Check out Virgil Goode. He is an ex six term congresman from Virginia. I believe he is a good man to carry the torch for the party this year, and while you are at it check out the other Constitution Party candidates who are on the ballot.

You will probably say I am wasting my vote by voting for Goode. As I said earlier, Obama is going to win his so called "home state"............Obama will recieve all twenty electoral votes, Mitt Romney will recieve zero......So what will you have achieved by voting for Romney.....You can say you voted for the lesser of two evils and that is about it. So if I am right you are wasting your vote by voting for Mitt Romney. If it was going to be a tight race here in Illinois I have to honestly say I would probably have to hold my nose and vote for Romney, but that is not going to be the case. It's sad to say but Illinois belongs to Obama
We all know that Virgil Goode is not going to be the next president.......Him being president is not the point..........The point is what he and the Constitution Party stand for and what they can do for Illinois.........I honestly think a vote for Virgil Goode could change the face of politics here in Illinois.........For you see, if a third party presidential candidate gets five percent or more of the Illinois vote in the general election it means they have to be considered an official political party in the entire state of Illinois. That means when the next election cycle comes around the Constitution Party would automaticaly be on the ballot and instead of their candidates jumping through hoops and being shot down by the powers that be they would simply do as the other parties do and run in a primary. That means there would be many more Constitution Party Candidates in the General Election. I would personally hope to see some of their candidates elected to office. I think that would be a wonderful thing for Illinois.


On the other hand the Constitution Party would maybe wake up the Republican Party and make them take notice.The Constitution Party would be competing with the Republican Party for votes and and votes seem to be the biggest concern of both the democrats and the Republicans. For the most part both parties seem to
vote to keep their jobs and power. They dont seem to do a whole lot of voting for what is best for the state or country. It seems the RP would have to start putting up some conservative candidates and that would be good for Illinois.It sounds like a win, win situation to me, either we will have the Constitution Party candidate in office or possibly a more conservative Constitututionaly aware Republican in office So I am voting for Virgil Goode for president and there is no way any one can convince me I am wasting my vote..................All he needs is 5% of the Illinois vote in November. This is the perfect year to do it. God Knows We Need A Change............Give the Constitution Party a chance...................... I intend to.

 

[TerryK]

Whose fault is it that the Constitution party isn't on the ballot??
If enough people would have gotten out a built support for the party over the last 4 years they might have been.
People sit on their butts for 3 years 11 months and then wonder why their ideal candidate hasn't got anyone else supporting them.
A lot of support could have been generated in the last 4 years. None was.

Whose fault is that?? The people that want to vote for him, thats who.

You want to vote for him, go ahead. You have the right to vote for anyone you want to.
What gets me is people who try to be all smug and self righteous just because they cast their vote on their principles of what they consider good for themselves but not the country. Yet they did absolutely nothing to make sure their candidate had a snow balls chance in hell of even coming close on election day.

It is like voting for Mickey Mouse. In fact Mickey Mouse gets as many as 20,000 votes each election. Donald Duck somewhat less.
I'm guessing Goode will be a little higher than Mickey. He will never live it down if Mickey beats him

 

[TerryK]

Dogshit and monkeyshit are displayed on the sidewalk. Either one has a chance of being stepped in. Off the beaten path there is a patch of clover growing. Very few will go there. I think I will make my bed in the clover patch. Some prefer to make their beds on the sidewalk because this is where everyone else seems to walk. As I walked over to my patch of clover, a man wearing a fine suit and rolling around in the monkeyshit yelled at me: "Racist!" I have gotten used to such insults and they mean nothing to me anymore. Another man wearing clean working clothes was rolling around in the dogshit. He looked over at me and said: "You are stupid! You are not picking a winner and surely you don't care about this sidewalk."

Sure, go sit in the clover while the adults work at the dirty job of cleaning up the country.

Light Echo I like their platform much better than the libertarian platform. I am not as radical as they are on abortion. They believe that abortion should still be illegal even if the life of the mother is in danger or in cases of rape. I don't believe that. I like their stand on government spending and most of the other parts of their platform.
It's just a shame that people haven't worked over the last 4 years to build up more support for the constitution party. There have been several mergers with other parties proposed over the last few years.
Anyway, good luck.

 

[LightEcho]

You never answered my question. What have you done to make sure Goode has a good chance at being elected, or do you think all you have to do is stroll down to the polls on election day and you have done your duty as a citizen?
Have you given money to his campaign?
Have you went to his campaign headquarters and volunteered to work for the campaign?
What exactly have you done to make sure your lone vote isn't just a gnat fart in a hurricane?

1. You did not ask me that question.
2. As I posted, I just learned about this guy today.
3. I do not contribute to parties or campaigns as I have no idea who they will put up for election.
4. What have you done to help the Constitution party? I hear your big mouth flappin. If you gave time or money to the GOP or Demoncrats, you are one sick individual.
5. I talk with people every day. They are hell-bent on devils like Obama to be their master. I don't have any hopes for this country. I only select the side I will stand on. I don't prep for other people. I prep for me and mine. I don't expect Amerika to survive.

Sure, go sit in the clover while the adults work at the dirty job of cleaning up the country.

Light Echo I like their platform much better than the libertarian platform. I am not as radical as they are on abortion. They believe that abortion should still be illegal even if the life of the mother is in danger or in cases of rape. I don't believe that. I like their stand on government spending and most of the other parts of their platform.
It's just a shame that people haven't worked over the last 4 years to build up more support for the constitution party. There have been several mergers with other parties proposed over the last few years.
Anyway, good luck.

Anyone who does not protect the life of a baby- regardless of how it was conceived, has no clue about rights, liberty or law. The excuse of protecting the life of the mother can become the easy out for anyone seeking the convenience of an abortion. Just how often is a mother's life threatened by pregnancy in this age?

We all choose where we stand. Why should anyone EVER choose to stand on a battlefield among evil men facing an enemy of other evil men, just so they can be on the winning side? I choose not to stand in that battlefield. I will be accountable for my choices. They determine where I stand.

 

[Songbird7777777]

Light Echo,

I am with you all the way! I just found out about Virgil Goode two weeks ago. I immediately contacted him and left him know he has my vote. They sent me my bumper stickers.

I cannot in good concious vote for Romney or Obama.

I decided I wasn't going to vote this year until I came across Goode.

I too will have to write in Virgil Goode/Jim Clymer on the ballot here in Pennsylvania!

He also has my daughter's vote!