I predicted that if O won a close election, he will have stolen it. Guess what?

Troke

On TB every waking moment
As the 2012 election approached, conservative enthusiasm grew. Mitt Romney was drawing huge crowds while Barack Obama spoke in half-filled stadiums. All the passion lay on the right, while the left was discouraged with a promised messiah who proved merely a politician. And the prediction was that, in contrast to 2008, Republican turnout would dwarf the tuned-out and carry the day. Hence the shock November 6 eve. How could Romney lose, especially by such a wide electoral margin?

Maybe he didn't

At least not legitimately.

When I predicted Obama's re-election, I stated that, despite our country's inexorable leftist slide, Romney would still win on Election Day were it not for vote fraud. I explained that the Democrats could steal more than enough votes in crucial swing states to turn the election. And I still believe what I did then: electoral criminality put Obama over the top.

At the time, we heard stories about electronic-machine "glitches" switching Romney votes to Obama ones. And Patrick Moran, son of Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA), was caught on tape facilitating vote fraud while Bridgeport, CT mayor Bill Finch essentially promised to commit same for a political partner in crime.

Since then, the indications of electoral criminality have been overwhelming. First there are the anecdotes, such as the court-appointed Republican poll watchers illegally expelled from thirteen Philadelphia polling places in wards that, in most cases, went 99 percent for Obama; the poll observers who noted what they considered vote fraud but were powerless to stop; and the Democrats who actually bragged about voting more than once.

Then there are the statistics, such as this staggering fact: in 59 Philadelphia districts, Romney failed to get even one vote. Final Obama-Romney tally: 19,605 to 0.

Huh? Not even one person voted GOP accidentally? I mean, there even was a Washington, D.C. councilman who inadvertently voted to approve faux marriage, saying that he didn't know what he was voting for (that would be Marion Barry).

Next, consider this report from The Columbus Dispatch:

More than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.

In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population: Northwestern Ohio's Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it's a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.

Another 31 counties show registrations at more than 90 percent of those eligible, a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts. The national average is a little more than 70 percent.

[...]Of the Buckeye State's 7.8 million registered voters, nearly 1.6 million are regarded as "inactive."

Understand the significance. Years ago I was contacted by a Washington, D.C. community leader (who'll remain anonymous) who told me that he had "done some computer work for several candidates over the years in DC" and had conducted his own study of urban vote fraud. He said that inner cities' great transiency ensures that any given large metropolis will have a great number of voters who no longer live in their precinct of registration. These areas also have Democrat operatives known by the get-out-the-vote term "block captains" or "apartment captains" -- people who know the lay of the land and thus what registered voters have left town. So all they need do, then, is vote for these people or have others do so. This is very easy, too, with few voter-ID laws. And this is why Democrats oppose these laws so vehemently.

Now consider that Obama "won" Ohio by 100,000 votes. This means that to flip the state, Democrat surrogates had to illegally "activate" only 6.25 percent of its 1.6 million inactive voters.

Note also that Ohio secretary of state Jon Husted did ask Eric Holder's DOJ for help negotiating conflicting federal laws pertaining to purging ineligible voters could be removed from the rolls. The DOJ's ultimate response? "No comment."

Yet a voter doesn't even have to be inactive -- just disengaged. For example, when the aforementioned Patrick Moran offered advice on surrogate voting, he told an undercover reporter to masquerade as a pollster and call a targeted individual to make sure he wasn't planning to vote. And this is nothing new. In fact, liberal leg-thriller Chris Matthews himself admitted that it has been going on for years.

Then there is the case of the missing military ballots. As Rachel Alexander at Town Hall reported:

The conservative-leaning military vote has decreased drastically since 2010 due to the so-called Military Voter Protection Act that was enacted into law the year before. It has made it so difficult for overseas military personnel to obtain absentee ballots that in Virginia and Ohio there has been a 70% decrease in requests for ballots since 2008. In Virginia, almost 30,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots than in 2008. In Ohio, more than 20,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots. This is significant considering Obama won in both states by a little over 100,000 votes.

Frankly, it is inconceivable that military interest in voting could've dropped so drastically, given conservatives' passion this election season. The damning conclusion? The Obama machine wants our soldiers to shed blood while it sheds their votes.

Striking as all this is, however, it's likely just a partial picture. As with all crime, it's a given that the discovered vote fraudsters represent only a tiny percentage of the total. And what about vote-fraud methods we haven't even thought of yet? Remember, the Democrats have been honing this act for many, many years.

And vote fraud is Democrat domain. Liberals are the situational-values set, people who for years insisted that right and wrong is relative and that if it feels good, do it. And what feels good to them at election time is stealing votes to win -- and they do it. They relish it, in fact. Like the liberal who addressed Bill Clinton's it-depends-on-what-is-is infidelity and adamantly told me, "He did the right thing," leftists love the con. To pull a fast one like private eye Jim Rockford, fool everyone, and get away with it is like winning the Nobel Prize in Prevarication in their world. Thus, it's assured that there's no small number of liberals who are currently brimming with pride at having negated the votes of countless knuckle-dragging conservatives.

Having said this, we can't be sure about the exact magnitude of the vote fraud. But my judgment is this:

The election was likely stolen.

And whatever Barack Obama is presently, I don't believe he will be a legitimate president come January 20.

This is why Congressman Allen West was right not to concede his Florida race. And, frankly, if Romney believes that the election may have been stolen nationally, he should withdraw his concession.

Radical?

Unprecedented?

Yes, but so is vote fraud on the scale perpetrated by Obama's minions. And people needn't fear creating a national crisis -- we are already in a national crisis. The only question is whether good Americans will stand and be counted or allow 2012 to mark our official descent into banana-republic status.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html#ixzz2C6esj5Uv
 

AddisonRose

On loan from Heaven
Having said this, we can't be sure about the exact magnitude of the vote fraud. But my judgment is this:

The election was likely stolen.
The election was stolen. Plain and simple. Where is the outcry from the populace? When did we become so apathetic to allow our country to slide into Socialism without a whimper?
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
no marxist has ever simply lost an election. they can only be removed by a military coup.

we have a marxist in the white house. oh sure, he may also be a sodomite, a liar, a druggie, a muslim. but he kowtows to the world socialist marxist line. no doubt about it. if there ever was a domestic enemy, he and those around him, and those who support him, and those who bow to him (Supreme Court justices and certain Senators come to mind) are Domestic Enemies of the Republic, just sneering at us peasants, daring us to make a move to defy them.
 

gunnersmom

Veteran Member
And why are our Republican leaders willing to allow this to happen? What is the sense in spending all that money and time if you are just going to be cheated out of it in the end?

Go to a little league baseball game and see how cheating is tolerated there.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
seems to me that evidence of voter fraud that led to the re-election of a communist president deserves to remain on the main page...
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
what is the voting system in the USA, in the UK you have to be on the electoral roll, maintained by the local authority (District Council), you are issued with a voting card (or a postal vote form), without the card you cannot vote. You fill out a form before an election to maintain the roll, i.e who at your address is eligible to vote.
There are no voting machines, you present your voting card at the polling station, they cross out your name from the list, you are issued with a ballot paper, then vote and put it in the ballot box, all votes are counted manually.
 

meandk0610

Veteran Member
what is the voting system in the USA, in the UK you have to be on the electoral roll, maintained by the local authority (District Council), you are issued with a voting card (or a postal vote form), without the card you cannot vote. You fill out a form before an election to maintain the roll, i.e who at your address is eligible to vote.
There are no voting machines, you present your voting card at the polling station, they cross out your name from the list, you are issued with a ballot paper, then vote and put it in the ballot box, all votes are counted manually.
sounds like the right to do it!

The election was stolen. Plain and simple. Where is the outcry from the populace? When did we become so apathetic to allow our country to slide into Socialism without a whimper?
at least for me, i feel like there's no use. we're not listened to anyway.
 

WingChun

Contributing Member
I love crazy posts. The election was not stolen. Romney was a shitty candidate and the repubs screwed Ron Paul and paid the price.

Fact Obama got 8 million fewer votes than in 2008. Obama was first president since FDR to win reelection with fewer votes than the last election. Hardly stealing with that many fewer votes. Fact Romboy got 2.1 million fewer votes than McCain in 2008. That is what lost the election. Fewer people voted for Romney than voted for McCain. No theft, was Romboy's election to lose and he and the Repub's lost it.
 

primrose

Member
When I predicted Obama's re-election, I stated that, despite our country's inexorable leftist slide, Romney would still win on Election Day were it not for vote fraud. I explained that the Democrats could steal more than enough votes in crucial swing states to turn the election. And I still believe what I did then: electoral criminality put Obama over the top.
Couldn't agree more. If you eliminate the dead people, people who voted several times and illegals, Obama would have had even millions less than 8 and Romney would have won. Same thing happened to a great Congressman right here in Florida, Allen West. The crooks at the SOE made sure of it and one county who had only 7 registered voters turned in 900 ballots. DUH!
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
I love crazy posts. The election was not stolen. Romney was a shitty candidate and the repubs screwed Ron Paul and paid the price.

Fact Obama got 8 million fewer votes than in 2008. Obama was first president since FDR to win reelection with fewer votes than the last election. Hardly stealing with that many fewer votes. Fact Romboy got 2.1 million fewer votes than McCain in 2008. That is what lost the election. Fewer people voted for Romney than voted for McCain. No theft, was Romboy's election to lose and he and the Repub's lost it.
Well, the latest word is that Romney equaled McCain's total vote. But not in the right places. O knew where the right places were, R didn't or acted that way anyway. Number crunchers claim that if R could have lured just 300,000 votes away from O in the right places, he'd have won.

As for Ron Paul, I fail to see where somebody who looks like Calvin Coolidge and sounds like Herbert Hoover could rouse the Lesser Classes into doing much of anything. But, if he had the eloquence of a Winston Churchill, how he looks would not have mattered. If he had such eloquence, it was carefully kept from me.

As it happens, RP's chance was the 2008 election and he muffed it. By 2012, the PTB had been alerted by the emergence of the Tea Party and they were ready for outliers.
 
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