I am beginning to think Obama may be the greatest political genuis since FDR.

Troke

On TB every waking moment
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/u...=rss&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Teaching Law, Testing Ideas, Obama Stood Slightly Apart
By JODI KANTOR
CHICAGO — The young law professor stood apart in too many ways to count. At a school where economic analysis was all the rage, he taught rights, race and gender. Other faculty members dreamed of tenured positions; he turned them down. While most colleagues published by the pound, he never completed a single work of legal scholarship.

At a formal institution, Barack Obama was a loose presence, joking with students about their romantic prospects, using first names, referring to case law one moment and “The Godfather” the next. He was also an enigmatic one, often leaving fellow faculty members guessing about his precise views.

Mr. Obama, now the junior senator from Illinois and the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, spent 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School. Most aspiring politicians do not dwell in the halls of academia, and few promising young legal thinkers toil in state legislatures. Mr. Obama planted a foot in each, splitting his weeks between an elite law school and the far less rarefied atmosphere of the Illinois Senate.

Before he outraised every other presidential primary candidate in American history, Mr. Obama marched students through the thickets of campaign finance law. Before he helped redraw his own State Senate district, making it whiter and wealthier, he taught districting as a racially fraught study in how power is secured. And before he posed what may be the ultimate test of racial equality — whether Americans will elect a black president — he led students through African-Americans’ long fight for equal status.

Standing in his favorite classroom in the austere main building, sharp-witted students looming above him, Mr. Obama refined his public speaking style, his debating abilities, his beliefs.

“He tested his ideas in classrooms,” said Dennis Hutchinson, a colleague. Every seminar hour brought a new round of, “Is affirmative action justified? Under what circumstances?” as Mr. Hutchinson put it.

But Mr. Obama’s years at the law school are also another chapter — see United States Senate, c. 2006 — in which he seemed as intently focused on his own political rise as on the institution itself. Mr. Obama, who declined to be interviewed for this article, was well liked at the law school, yet he was always slightly apart from it, leaving some colleagues feeling a little cheated that he did not fully engage. The Chicago faculty is more rightward-leaning than that of other top law schools, but if teaching alongside some of the most formidable conservative minds in the country had any impact on Mr. Obama, no one can quite point to it.

“I don’t think anything that went on in these chambers affected him,” said Richard Epstein, a libertarian colleague who says he longed for Mr. Obama to venture beyond his ideological and topical comfort zones. “His entire life, as best I can tell, is one in which he’s always been a thoughtful listener and questioner, but he’s never stepped up to the plate and taken full swings.”

Mr. Obama had other business on his mind, embarking on five political races during his 12 years at the school. Teaching gave him satisfaction, along with a perch and a paycheck, but he was impatient with academic debates over “whether to drop a footnote or not drop a footnote,” said Abner J. Mikva, a mentor whose own career has spanned Congress, the federal bench and the same law school.

Douglas Baird, another colleague, remembers once asking Mr. Obama to assess potential candidates for governor.

“First of all, I’m not running for governor, “ Mr. Obama told him. “But if I did, I would expect you to support me.”

He was a third-year state senator at the time.

Popular and Enigmatic

Mr. Obama arrived at the law school in 1991 thanks to Michael W. McConnell, a conservative scholar who is now a federal appellate judge. As president of The Harvard Law Review, Mr. Obama had impressed Mr. McConnell with editing suggestions on an article; on little more than that, the law school gave him a fellowship, which amounted to an office and a computer, which he used to write his memoir, “Dreams From My Father.”

The school had almost no black faculty members, a special embarrassment given its location on the South Side. Its sleek halls bordered a neighborhood crumbling with poverty and neglect. In his 2000 Congressional primary race, Representative Bobby L. Rush, a former Black Panther running for re-election, used Mr. Obama’s ties to the school to label him an egghead and an elitist.

At the school, Mr. Obama taught three courses, ascending to senior lecturer, a title otherwise carried only by a few federal judges. His most traditional course was in the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law. His voting rights class traced the evolution of election law, from the disenfranchisement of blacks to contemporary debates over districting and campaign finance. Mr. Obama was so interested in the subject that he helped Richard Pildes, a professor at New York University, develop a leading casebook in the field.

His most original course, a historical and political seminar as much as a legal one, was on racism and law. Mr. Obama improvised his own textbook, including classic cases like Brown v. Board of Education, and essays by Frederick Douglass, W. E. B. Dubois, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, as well as conservative thinkers like Robert H. Bork.

Mr. Obama was especially eager for his charges to understand the horrors of the past, students say. He assigned a 1919 catalog of lynching victims, including some who were first raped or stripped of their ears and fingers, others who were pregnant or lynched with their children, and some whose charred bodies were sold off, bone fragment by bone fragment, to gawkers.

“Are there legal remedies that alleviate not just existing racism, but racism from the past?” Adam Gross, now a public interest lawyer in Chicago, wrote in his class notes in April 1994.

For all the weighty material, Mr. Obama had a disarming touch. He did not belittle students; instead he drew them out, restating and polishing halting answers, students recall. In one class on race, he imitated the way clueless white people talked. “Why are your friends at the housing projects shooting each other?” he asked in a mock-innocent voice.

A favorite theme, said Salil Mehra, now a law professor at Temple University, were the values and cultural touchstones that Americans share. Mr. Obama’s case in point: his wife, Michelle, a black woman, loved “The Brady Bunch” so much that she could identify every episode by its opening shots.

As his reputation for frank, exciting discussion spread, enrollment in his classes swelled. Most scores on his teaching evaluations were positive to superlative. Some students started referring to themselves as his groupies. (Mr. Obama, in turn, could play the star. In what even some fans saw as self-absorption, Mr. Obama’s hypothetical cases occasionally featured himself. “Take Barack Obama, there’s a good-looking guy,” he would introduce a twisty legal case.)

Challenging Assumptions

Liberals flocked to his classes, seeking refuge. After all, the professor was a progressive politician who backed child care subsidies and laws against racial profiling, and in a 1996 interview with the school newspaper sounded skeptical of President Bill Clinton’s efforts to reach across the aisle.

“On the national level, bipartisanship usually means Democrats ignore the needs of the poor and abandon the idea that government can play a role in issues of poverty, race discrimination, sex discrimination or environmental protection,” Mr. Obama said.

But the liberal students did not necessarily find reassurance. “For people who thought they were getting a doctrinal, rah-rah experience, it wasn’t that kind of class,” said D. Daniel Sokol, a former student who now teaches law at the University of Florida at Gainesville.

For one thing, Mr. Obama’s courses chronicled the failure of liberal policies and court-led efforts at social change: the Reconstruction-era amendments that were rendered meaningless by a century of resistance, the way the triumph of Brown gave way to fights over busing, the voting rights laws that crowded blacks into as few districts as possible. He was wary of noble theories, students say; instead, they call Mr. Obama a contextualist, willing to look past legal niceties to get results.

For another, Mr. Obama liked to provoke. He wanted his charges to try arguing that life was better under segregation, that black people were better athletes than white ones.

“I remember thinking, ‘You’re offending my liberal instincts,’ ” Mary Ellen Callahan, now a privacy lawyer in Washington, recalled.

In his voting rights course, Mr. Obama taught Lani Guinier’s proposals for structuring elections differently to increase minority representation. Opponents attacked those suggestions when Ms. Guinier was nominated as assistant attorney general for civil rights in 1993, costing her the post.

“I think he thought they were good and worth trying,” said David Franklin, who now teaches law at DePaul University in Chicago.

But whether out of professorial reserve or budding political caution, Mr. Obama would not say so directly. “He surfaced all the competing points of view on Guinier’s proposals with total neutrality and equanimity,” Mr. Franklin said. “He just let the class debate the merits of them back and forth.”

While students appreciated Mr. Obama’s evenhandedness, colleagues sometimes wanted him to take a stand. When two fellow faculty members asked him to support a controversial antigang measure, allowing the Chicago police to disperse and eventually arrest loiterers who had no clear reason to gather, Mr. Obama discussed the issue with unusual thoughtfulness, they say, but gave little sign of who should prevail — the American Civil Liberties Union, which opposed the measure, or the community groups that supported it out of concern about crime.

“He just observed it with a kind of interest,” said Daniel Kahan, now a professor at Yale.

Nor could his views be gleaned from scholarship; Mr. Obama has never published any. He was too busy, but also, Mr. Epstein believes, he was unwilling to put his name to anything that could haunt him politically, as Ms. Guinier’s writings had hurt her. “He figured out, you lay low,” Mr. Epstein said.

The Chicago law faculty is full of intellectually fiery friendships that burn across ideological lines. Three times a week, professors do combat over lunch at a special round table in the university’s faculty club, and they share and defend their research in workshop discussions. Mr. Obama rarely attended, even when he was in town.

“I’m not sure he was close to anyone,” Mr. Hutchinson said, except for a few liberal constitutional law professors, like Cass Sunstein, now an occasional adviser to his campaign. Mr. Obama was working two other jobs, after all, in the State Senate and at a civil rights law firm.

Several colleagues say Mr. Obama was surely influenced by the ideas swirling around the law school campus: the prevailing market-friendliness, or economic analysis of the impact of laws. But none could say how. “I’m not sure we changed him,” Mr. Baird said.

Because he never fully engaged, Mr. Obama “doesn’t have the slightest sense of where folks like me are coming from,” Mr. Epstein said. “He was a successful teacher and an absentee tenant on the other issues.”

Leaving the Classroom

As Mr. Obama built his political career, his so-called groupies became an early core of supporters, handing out leaflets and hosting fund-raisers in their modest apartments.

“Maybe we charged an audacious $20?” said Jesse Ruiz, now a corporate lawyer in Chicago. Mr. Obama was sheepish asking for even that, Mr. Ruiz recalls. With no staff, Mr. Obama would come by the day after a fund-raiser to stuff the proceeds into a backpack.

Mr. Obama never mentioned his humiliating, hopeless campaign against Mr. Rush in class (he lost by a two-to-one margin), though colleagues noticed that he seemed exhausted and was smoking more than usual.

Soon after, the faculty saw an opening and made him its best offer yet: Tenure upon hiring. A handsome salary, more than the $60,000 he was making in the State Senate or the $60,000 he earned teaching part time. A job for Michelle Obama directing the legal clinic.

Your political career is dead, Daniel Fischel, then the dean, said he told Mr. Obama, gently. Mr. Obama turned the offer down. Two years later, he decided to run for the Senate. He canceled his course load and has not taught since.

Now, watching the news, it is dawning on Mr. Obama’s former students that he was mining material for his political future even as he taught them.

Byron Rodriguez, a real estate lawyer in San Francisco, recalls his professor’s admiration for the soaring but plainspoken speeches of Frederick Douglass.

“No one speaks this way anymore,” Mr. Obama told his class, wondering aloud what had happened to the art of political oratory. In particular, Mr. Obama admired Douglass’s use of a collective voice that embraced black and white concerns, one that Mr. Obama has now adopted himself.

In class, Mr. Obama sounded many of the same themes he does on the campaign trail, Ms. Callahan said, ticking them off: “self-determinism as opposed to paternalism, strength in numbers, his concept of community development.”

But as a professor, students say, Mr. Obama was in the business of complication, showing that even the best-reasoned rules have unintended consequences, that competing legal interests cannot always be resolved, that a rule that promotes justice in one case can be unfair in the next.

So even some former students who are thrilled at Mr. Obama’s success wince when they hear him speaking like the politician he has so fully become.

“When you hear him talking about issues, it’s at a level so much simpler than the one he’s capable of,” Mr. Rodriguez said. “He was a lot more fun to listen to back then.”

Notice how he left no tracks. No articles, few votes (had the record of "present" I think). He has associated with some unsavory characters to gain status but his campaign people have innoculated him against that....so far. Anyway, to have come this far on absolutely nothing is pretty impressive IMHO. Hillary must get up each morning wondering where this guy came from and why she was not warned until it was too late. Another sign of his ability. He saw that she was beatable in the primaries when nobody else did. However, his very success seems to have gone to his head and that may well do him in.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
According to the Foreign Press, his press team is the best that they have seen in generations. Best for message, best for framing him and his views, etc. etc. etc.

And add in fairly high powered and high pressured.
 

Topusaret

Deceased
Oh boy. If the New York Times has turned on Obama, he is toast. If this becomes more of trend, it will snowball and derail him quicker than McCain ever could. McCain's best bet is to continue to lay low for another week or two and let Obama trip all over himself some more.

ETA:

Does this have the gentle shove over the cliff trademark of the Clintons all over it?
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
. . . According to the Foreign Press, his press team is the best that they have seen in generations. . .

Just not very knowledgeable about basic American history ("the" bomb over Pearl Harbor?), geography (57 states?), or government (division of power, 3 separate entities, not one, all-powerful execuvitve branch.) Not to mention the total adoration and cooperation of the MSM.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
You don't need to be a political genius when you have been annointed by TPTB. They could even make me look good if they wanted to.
 

D_el

Veteran Member
Try as the might, they can't keep a good man down.....or Obama either for that matter.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
"...You don't need to be a political genius when you have been annointed by TPTB. They could even make me look good if they wanted to.."

Why do I have a feeling that Obama had a pretty good idea that they would anoint him. That's part of the genius.

I think this guy has played his part to perfection. Who in their right mind 6 yrs ago would have predicted this?

The other genius is his PR team. They have not missed a step no matter how many gaffes Obama has pulled. I admire craftsmanship no matter where found and I am beginning to think this guy has it.

One caveat: He may start believing his own press clippings, an occupational hazard for politicos. He does that, he is toast, assuming McCain notices.

Ha! McCain may win this like he won the primary...the last man standing.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
He's pretty charasmatic, I'll give him that. A lot like Klinton. Pretty much an empty suit above the waist but has the looks and the charms, add a little magic fairy dust from a complicit media and they have people thinking that a savior from all that is wrong draws near.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I am a tenured professor in a major university, and I can guarantee you that no non-minority professor would EVER been allowed to do what Obama did at Chicago Law School.


At my university (The University of Memphis), there are so few black professors that they hire black folks BEFORE they get their doctorates at higher salaries than whites who already have their doctorates. Then when they finally get their doctorates, they hold out for lots more money and if they do not get it, they move on to other universities.


It is easy for them to get what they want because many universities (including all state institutions in Tennesssee and many other states as well) are under court order to hire more minorities, and yet there are so few who can meet the criteria for hiring.


And where there is not actual court orders in place forcing the hiring of minorities into professorships, politically correct, liberal expectations are forcing alot of the other institutions to do it.


We have new hire minorities at this university who are making more than their white department heads who have 25 years of experience.


And because these folks are NEEDED by the universities to just fill their "minority slots", they are allowed to do whatever they want to do. Nobody CAN stand up to them, because the universities HAVE TO HAVE these minority professors to meet court ordered mandates or PC expectations.


That situation is not even rare. Not at the University of Memphis. And not at universities around the country.


It is just a unique way that the race card is played inside the "hallowed halls" of higher education. Sounds like Obama honed his skills playing this game while at the U of Chicago...


And you wonder why university curricula has gotten so "PC" during the last 15 years or so...


(P.S. You can accuse me of being a racist if you choose, but what I say can only be considered racist if it is either a boldfaced lie, or a massive distortion of the truth.

If it is an accurate representation of what actually happens outside of public view at a major university such as the one I teach at -- then it is not racist to simply tell the truth.

Although most of you do not know what happens behind the scenes at major universities, I promise you -- this really is an accurate representation of what happens.

I'm not being racist. I'm telling you the truth of what I see happening everyday where I work.)
 

denfoote

Inactive
Yeah OK, whatever, commielibs.

I want some of whatever you are smoking!!

Oh wait!!!

I don't do recreational pharmaceuticals!!!

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
If you are supporting Obama,

Do you also support gun control? The banning of all semi-auto firearms?

Do you support the foundation of a new internal security force, with the same powers of arrest as other federal law enforcement agencies, but with the armament of the US army?

Do you support paying higher taxes?

Do you support late term abortion?

Do you support the President of The US talking to those countries that have spent their considerable wealth in killing US citizens and US servicemen and women? Talking to them without pre-conditions? Killing your fellow citizens for decades.

Do you support the announcement of pulling US troops out of Iraq, which is still a combat zone, causing more murder and mayhem?

Do you support having racist preachers, and religious leaders such as Farrakhan being able to stay and speak at the Whitehouse?

Do you really support a candidate who in college sought the council of members of the Weathermen, who bombed targets in the United States, murdering US citizens?

Do you support a candidate who cannot even compliment his grandmother, who raised him because none of his parents could take the time to do it? He called his grandmother a typical white person.

I mean no offense, if these issues do not bother you, then I respect your decision. I am just a little shocked that you would be posting on a board that is primarily a preparedness board, with info and news being second to the large amount of preparedness posted here. Part of my preparedness is being armed. Obama is against any American being armed and has said so on many occasions. That should be enough for any sane thinking person to not support him. But gun-control is not on everyone's most important list.

Have a good evening!

Infoscout
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Micro

Veteran Member
Oh there is genius behind him alright. The more I watch this show the more ancient that genius appears to be...:ld:
 
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