…… How Can I Attend Family Funeral Safely?

[Barry Natchitoches]

My SIL recovered from cancer, but had permanent damage from radiation and chemo, including congestive heart failure.

Her doctor recommended she get vaxxed. So she did. Within 48 hours, she was in the ER with major breathing problems. She spent several days in the hospital with that. She got out and short time later, she got the second jab.

That is when all hell broke loose. She soon began internal bleeding. They did every imaging test imaginable, and could never find the source of the bleeding. They finally said it is bleeding in her capillaries, and that is why they cannot locate a specific source.

She has spent more time in the hospital than at home since that second shot.

It does not look like she is going to make it.

She will have a traditional funeral with a viewing and a service inside the chapel of a very popular Memphis funeral home. This is an indoor area that I will be trapped in, probably for several hours, with many other people. Many who have been vaxxed (and might be shedding the virus), and some who might even have Covid right now themselves.

In addition, I have no idea how many people who died of Covid that they have provided a final service for in that same room. Delta varient is all around these parts.

I CANNOT get out of attending this funeral. I an unvaccinated by choice (I am not convinced of their safety), but heck - there are vaccinated people all over the place who are getting Covid anyway, so why would I ever consider the vaccination to be a hedge of protection?

But I also have a wife at home who is immunocompromised. I must protect myself for her sake, as well as my own.

I CANNOT refuse to attend this funeral (for reasons I cannot discuss here, so please do not ask). It really is non-negotiable.

So I am in need of suggestions how I can protect myself - and keep myself from bringing the virus home to her, given the situation.

Your insights and suggestions will be appreciated.

 

[Buick Electra]

Make some quinine and do some the night before and a big 4oz shot right before you leave for the funeral.

Also dose yourself with some Ivermectin (I only use the horse paste) 1" of paste for up to 100lbs of body weight. NO MORE THAT 1 7/8" if over 200 lbs. I would do this a few days before the funeral as well as the day of.

Quinine Recipe Homemade HCQ (quinine)

• HOME RECIPE FOR HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE (HCQ):
  
  THE DRUG THAT IS CURRENTLY TREATING THIS VIRUS…..WATCH BELOW AS I SHOW YOU THE RECIPE AND HOW TO MAKE THIS SOLUTION AT HOME, MINUS BIG PHARMAS FILLERS AND PRESERVATIVES.
  
  2. THAT’S RIGHT……..THIS IS THE REAL REASON THAT THE DRUG COMPANIES WERE FURIOUS ABOUT THIS CURE. NOT ONLY HAS IT PROVEN TO ELIMINATE THIS VIRUS….BUT OTHERS AS WELL. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG KEPT SECRET…BUT TRUMP BLEW THAT FOR THEM RIGHT AWAY.
  
  3. WHAT IS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE EXACTLY? IT IS NOTHING BUT QUININE. SOMETHING THAT ANYONE CAN MAKE AT HOME….AND SOMETHING THAT IS BEING MANUFACTURED EACH AND EVERY DAY IN THE FORM OF SOMETHING WE HAVE ALL SEEN AT THE GROCERY AND LIQUOR STORES………NONE OTHER THAN TONIC WATER.
  
  4. THIS DRUG BEING USED TO TREAT THE COVID VIRUS HAS. THIS WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE LEAKED OUT…BECAUSE EVEN A FULL TREATMENT REGIME OF PILLS FROM THE DOCTOR IS LESS THAN A 100.00 FOR SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE.
  
  5. SOMETHING ELSE YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN THEY CREATED THIS VIRUS, THEY ALSO PUT A STRAIN OF HIV IN IT. THIS WAS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE FATAL. BUT... GUESS WHAT?
  
  6. THE QUININE KILLED THAT PART OF THE AIDS VIRUS AS WELL. CAN YOU SEE NOW WHY THEY WERE SCREAMING THAT THIS WAS A DANGEROUS DRUG AND NOT TO DARE USE IT. BEHIND THE SCENE STUDIES ARE NOW COMING FORTH THAT SHOW IT BEING EFFECTIVE OTHER DISEASES AS WELL AND EVEN ON CANCERS.
  
  7. I THINK IN THE DAYS TO COME, WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE EVER THOUGHT WE KNEW. IF YOU LISTENED TO OUR PRESIDENT THIS WEEK, HE SAID THAT “IN ONE YEAR, EVERY TREATMENT THAT WE ARE NOW USING IN THE HOSPITALS WILL BE OBSOLETE”. WHAT DOES HE KNOW?
  
  8. HE KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE WITHHELD THESE CURES TO KEEP PEOPLE SICK AND TO MAKE MILLIONS OFF OF INSURANCE COMPANIES.
  
  9. QUININE HAS MANY USES AND APPLICATIONS. IT IS ANALGESIC, ANESTHETIC, ANTIARRHYTHMIC, ANTIBACTERIAL, ANTIMALARIAL, ANTIMICROBIAL, ANTIPARASITIC, ANTIPYRETIC, ANTISEPTIC, ANTISPASMODIC, ANTIVIRAL, ASTRINGENT, BACTERICIDE, CYTOTOXIC, FEBRIFUGE, FUNGICIDE, INSECTICIDE, NERVINE,
  
  10. STOMACHIC, TONIC…….SO YOU CAN BE SURE THAT BIG PHARMA IS SCARED TO DEATH AT THIS POINT AND SCREAMING THAT THIS DRUG DOES NOT WORK…WHEN THE ENTIRE WORLD SEES THAT IT IS WORKING.
  
  11. IF YOU EVER FEEL A CHEST COLD COMING ON OR JUST FEEL LIKE CRAP…. MAKE YOUR OWN QUININE. IT IS MADE OUT OF THE PEELINGS OF GRAPEFRUITS AND LEMONS, …BUT ESPECIALLY GRAPEFRUITS. I WILL GIVE YOU THE RECIPE HERE AND YOU TAKE THIS CONCOCTION THROUGHOUT THE DAY…
  
  12. OR YOU CAN MAKE A TEA OUT OF IT AND DRINK IT ALL DAY. THIS SHOULD TAKE AWAY ALL YOUR FEARS ABOUT THIS VIRUS, BECAUSE YOU NOW HAVE THE DEFENSE AGAINST IT AND MANY OTHER THINGS.
  
  13. IF YOU TAKE ZINC WITH THIS RECIPE, THE ZINC PROPELS THE QUININE INTO YOUR CELLS FOR A MUCH FASTER HEALING.
  
  14. HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE YOUR VERY OWN QUININE……………………………TAKE THE RIND OF 2-3 GRAPEFRUITS. TAKE THE PEEL ONLY AND COVER IT WITH WATER ABOUT 3 INCHES ABOVE THE PEELS.PUT A GLASS LID ON YOUR POT IF YOU HAVE ONE….A METAL ONE IS FINE IF YOU DON’T.
  
  15. LET IT SIMMER FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS. DO NOT TAKE THE LID OFF OF THE POT TILL IT COOLS COMPLETELY AS THIS WILL ALLOW THE QUININE TO ESCAPE IN THE STEAM.
  
  16. SWEETEN THE TEA WITH HONEY OR SUGAR SINCE IT WILL BE BITTER. TAKE 1 TABLESPOON EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS TO BRING UP THE PHLEGM FROM YOUR LUNGS. DISCONTINUE AS SOON AS YOU GET BETTER.
  
  17. PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH THOSE THAT NEED TO REDUCE FEAR AND ALLOW THEM TO SEE THAT GOD IN ALL OF HIS GLORY, PROVIDES US WITH ALL THAT WE NEED
  
  18. JUST FOR TRUTHS SAKE, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS, DOCTORS ARE ALSO PRESCRIBING THE ANTIBIOTIC AZYTHROMICIN (ZPACK). FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT A DOCTOR OF ANY SORTS AND ONLY OFFER THIS FROM MY OWN DATA RESEARCH.
  
  19. I AM NOT PRESCRIBING THIS IN ANY WAY, AND IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL READING THIS TO DO WITH THIS INFORMATION WHAT THEY WANT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR FREEDOM FROM THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
  
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• To make LARGE QUANTITY (Quarts/ Half-Gallons)…

12 grapefruits, gutted (quarter up the peals)

4 lemons, gutted (quarter up the peals)

I use a stock pot that is 6.5" tall and 11.25" wide and you need a cover for it!!!! (If you have a smaller pot, just cut the number of grapefruits and lemons in half)

Fill pot with water up to 3/4's to the top

Put in peals

Turn on high until water starts to boil then turn to low simmer for 6-8 hours (Burn candles when you cook this or else your house will stink!) NEVER REMOVE LID FROM POT (quinine is in that steam! Lift the lid and you're releasing the quinine).

I usually put my pot on around 1:00 pm. That way it's done between 7-9pm. Then I turn the stove off and let it sit over night COVERED.

The next morning I pull out the peals, then ladle the quinine into jars, zip-lock bag them and freeze.

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How To Make Quinine Water (COVID Prophylactic) | Principia Scientific Intl.
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[greysage]

Take your zinc and vit D. Load up on IVM beginning the day before and day of. Mainly make sure you’ve got plenty on your system. Maybe give your wife some at the same time.

 

[Shadow]

I am sorry for your situation and potential loss.

The suggestions above and add vitamin c. If you do not have HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE obtain some quercerin (SP). I understand that both help zinc to get into the cells to do it's work.

Shadow

 

[adgal]

Start taking Vitamin D today. Vitamin D coats the receptors and stops the virus from attaching itself to you.

 

[Pinecone]

Not a doctor or medical professional. I took a dose of IVM the day before my trip to Costco and then the day of, 500 quercitin and some zinc (forgot how much), and a couple doses of 1000mg of C. Oh, and D3, too. You'll have to research this to make sure it won't interfere with any meds you are currently on, or affect any conditions that you have. We'll all different.

Hand sanitizer when you can. When you get home, take a shower and change. Also maybe use XClear. Basically, it's what I did this week after going to Costco, except for the shower and change of clothing. So far, so good.

I'm curious as to what others would do, myself.

Most of all, keep a positive attitude that you won't get it. I'm sorry to hear about your SIL. Prayers that you all stay safe while you celebrate her life and mourn her passing.

 

[momma_soapmaker]

I would seriously look into an N100 mask. N95 at the very least.

I'm sorry your family is going through this.

 

[Ragnarok]

How Can I Attend Family Funeral Safely?

Honestly?

Not blowing smoke up your ass?

You can't attend safely.

What you have to decide is, "Is the risk worth the end result?"

Only you can answer that.

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Barry Natchitoches please, breathe, several deep calming breaths. You sound like you're about to kick off a full bore panic. Can't imagine the pressure you're under. Grief? Delta? Family, yes family can cause helping heaps of drama and pressure and stress.

There are volumes of info on this board. You'll have to decide what path is right for you. One thing not mentioned, usually never mentioned. Is that by now you may have already been exposed to the Delta and maybe even several slightly driffed variants of it as well.

The reason you might not have it might be due to you already having acquired immunity from surviving a bout(s) of the virus, the whole nasty little virus not just the tiny piddleass chunk of RNA in the vaccine? RNA that may have mutated to the point the vaccine may be useless against strains in current circulation? You may have survived several bouts of asymptomatic Delta? How would you know or anyone else know, if its asymptomatic? The infamous test? The test the CDC has already admitted is bogus? The same test the .gov will stop using in December?

Much as I hate to admit my age, I predate some vaccines now routinely given to kids. I had those nasty childhood diseases of yesteryear. Remember the stories of chicken pox parties? Acquired immunity!!!!!

I know I've had a few run ins with Covid already because the symptoms really don't fit flu. Guess I was in the lucky what is it? 99.8% who survives the stupid thing without any major issues? Like your sister I've some issues and because of them I've no intentions of getting the jab, ever!

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Barry Natchitoches don't know if would help you and I'm not giving medical advice. What I've been doing is anytime I feel a sore throat coming on I take Vit C, enjoy some some sunshine and gargle with Listerine several times a day.

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

If you've had COVID, you may still have natural immunity. I read (here) that there are labs that will test your antibodies without a prescription. You'll have to do a search, I think it was Quest. Knowing you have the antibodies will ease your mind a lot.

One thing I've heard about is xylitol - you can get it in a mouth spray and a nose spray. (I posted the studies in the main covid thread months ago, you can do a search here to find it if you are interested). The brand is XClear. If you really have to attend the funeral - I would spray your nose before you go in and when you leave and continually spray your throat as you're there (spraying your mouth is not as obnoxious to do in a crowd, I don't know how you can politely spray up your nose). I've bought it at Swansons - they had it for a lot less than Amazon did.

They are out of the nasal spray but the children's version is the exact same formula, just a different bottle:

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But I will echo others who say - you don't have to go. You are choosing to go. No matter what obligation you think you have to your brother, your wife's health should come first and I am sure they will have a zoom component for you and your wife to watch. That being said, if you have antibodies, they work better than the vaccine (but are NOT fool proof, I've read of people who had covid, and who were vaxxed, who still got Delta).

HD

 

[Old Gray Mare]

That being said, if you have antibodies, they work better than the vaccine (but are NOT fool proof, I've read of people who had covid, and who were vaxxed, who still got Delta).

HD

Nothing is foolproof. This is a disease and people are dying from it. With a 99.8% survival rate? That's pretty good odds.

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

Nothing is foolproof. This is a disease and people are dying from it. With a 99.8% survival rate? That's pretty good odds.

Exactly. Nothing is foolproof. that was my point

HD

 

[Publius]

Load up on Colloidal Silver like a cup a day before and a cup of it just hours before attending and I would suggest Iodine treatment as most are deficient.

 

[Dennis Olson]

You could get a PAPR respirator. That’s what the CDC and some hospital workers use. If she hasn’t passed yet, you still have time to get one. They cost $500-$1500 depending on model. That will keep you from getting Covid. But hurry…


That’s what that doofy-looking thing I got last year is. But I only paid $300 for it, which was why I got it.

 

[ainitfunny]

You know you can't go in there wearing a PAPR or other elaborate respirator in front of everybody. Some people will not even be wearing masks or will be ripping them off wherever they are are not FORCED to put them on and the litte kids won't be masked, but with COVID "D" VARIANT they now can spread it.

You have to get a backbone and say " I loved my sister but I love my immuno-compromised wife MORE, so I am deeply sorry I cannot attend the funeral and take the chance of bringing COVID home to her." Period.
MAKE SURE YOU SEND A FLOWER BASKET TO THE FUNERAL HOME FOR YOUR SISTER.
You might buy a big box of candy also for the wake or after funeral reception.

 

[Luddite]

Consider limiting exposure to your wife as much as possible when you return home. For a week to 10 days.

Sorry for your loss.

Consider being fearless & prudent at the same time...
easier said than done

eta: many good suggestions posted above

 

[wvstuck]

Ivermectin, but no one really knows. I hear you saying that you must attend, but if you had a fever and sore throat the day before would you still go and risk everyone there getting Covid from you? You must take your wife's health into account also. Good advice on this thread, the best hope is a cocktail of things and a PAPR device, but these are unproven theories.

I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, but I can honestly say there is nothing in my life non-negotiable when it comes to my health or my wife's health first

 

[psychgirl]

You know you can't go in there wearing a PAPR respirator in front of everybody.

You have to get a backbone and say " I loved my sister but I love my immuno-compromised wife MORE, so I am deeply sorry I cannot attend the funeral and take the chance of bringing COVID home to her." Period.
MAKE SURE YOU SEND A FLOWER BASKET TO THE FUNERAL HOME FOR YOUR SISTER.
You might buy a big box of candy also for the wake or after funeral reception.

I’m going to chime in here to agree with this solution.
Now, if it was my sister and NOT sister in law (no matter how much I cared for a SIL!) then if course, I’d find the best way to attend.

I had to turn down going to the funeral last fall for an uncle I really thought the world of, but between Covid and trying to rearrange my work schedule to attend an out of town get together, it just wasn’t going to happen. I wasn’t feeling well anyway myself, so with a huge amount of guilt, I sent my condolences and flowers.

 

[City Marm]

Add to your good quality N-95 or better mask
one of those face shields. They are cheap!
Go in at the last minute. Leave as soon as you
can. Don’t HUG or shake hands! It’s difficult
but Don’t do it. I recently attended a wake
but just stopped by to pay my respects and left. Sign the book say hello and Leave!
People should understand due to your wife’s situation. When I stopped by that wake I
got an uncomfortable feeling because the room was too crowded. Listen to your instinct.
I would also take those suggested supplements!! My condolences to you!

 

[Kathy in FL]

I haven't heard yet anyone asking what the funeral home is going to do. Check with your state and see if there are limits on the number of people that can attend, sitting arrangements, etc. Ask what policies the funeral home has in place above and beyond what the state mandates.

 

[Marseydoats]

Not beating you up about it, but I wouldn't go.
You've already gotten some very good advice. I'd take off all my clothes in the garage, spray the bottom of my shoes with bleach solution. Jump in the shower, and scrub good. Throw on a robe or something and go and hang all your clothes out in the sun, and put your shoes outside as well. Take another shower. I'd let clothing sit out all day in the sun, and then bag up suit to take it straight to the dry cleaners.
Good luck!

 

[flying screwdriver]

I’ve dealt with immunity issues half a lifetime, and had to take funerals off my list of things I can do.

People go even if they’re sick, they bring their kids, everyone is clustered, potluck dinners for the evening wake. Sniveling, weeping, hugging, shaking hands, it’s a petri dish of everything.

Guilt and grief drives them to go.
There will be sick people there.

Don’t be there.

 

[SmithJ]

The only advice written on this thread that will assure that you do not get Covid at the funeral is, do not go to the funeral. The delta variant is extremely contagious.

Only you can decide if the risk is worth it, to yourself and by extension to your wife.

We here all know the extent that you have went to over the past year to protect your wife. Only you can decide if this is an acceptable risk.

 

[Thunderbird]

Making Quinine sounds as if it is an Instant pot job.

 

[WalknTrot]

If you insist on going, it's going to be a huge risk to your wife no matter what precautions you take. The best, surest suggestion I've seen so far is to quarantine yourself away from her for 10-15 days after the gathering.

Send the substantial hotel bill to whoever/whatever is pressuring you to attend.

 

[1911user]

BTDT a few months ago - that's when I started actually taking previously purchased ivermectin.
This is how I'd do it if I had to be there.

BEFORE:
build immunity with daily vitamins and supplements starting now (C, D3, quercetin, zinc, NAC, etc.)
start taking ivermectin doses at least weekly to make sure you don't expose others at the funeral or during the funeral planning.

JUST BEFORE:
take elderberry syrup

AT FUNERAL:
wear a fitted N95 or better mask and don't remove it for any reason while there. Eat before you go.
keep a small packet or 2 of disposable clorox type wipes in your pocket and use to decon your hands and surfaces if you must touch them. Try hard to not touch your face. Have a handy wipe ready if you must touch your face.
If you have an option between glasses or contacts, wear glasses and decon them them after the funeral.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER:
gargle with scope then more elderberry syrup
consider some type of cleansing nasal spray
assume you've been exposed and take a heavy dose of ivermectin then another heavy dose 2 days later (heavy dose=2-3x normal dose)
change clothes before going home, bag them in a clean new bag, shower/decon with wipes, take the bagged clothes to a dry cleaner
wipe down all the common touch places in your vehicle.

THE FOLLOWING WEEK:
minimize contact/exposure to your wife
monitor your temperature and pulse-ox levels several times each day for subtle clues you might be getting sick.
continue the elderberry syrup several times per day.
continue prophylactic ivermectin dosing.

 

[Homestyle]

Go see the people that must see you there, and then quietly leave.

 

[bartp40]

Drink lots of Maine Chaga tea from Amazon... lots of Vitamin D...

 

[marsofold]

Take all of the stuff recomended above, then, after the funeral, stay at a hotel for at least a week until you know that you haven't caught it. Then go home,,,

 

[Meemur]

Saying prayers!

 

[SSTemplar]

If you really think that your wife’s safety could be placed in jeopardy then you have a moral obligation to her to not attend that funeral in person.

 

[SackLunch]

Airflow. Would there be anyway to increase airflow at the event? Open windows? More fans? Meet and greet outside?

Imagine someone smoking a cigarette in the funeral home room (representing the aerosolized virus spread), and trying to reduce the odor (or concentration of the virus).

(N95, N100 masks help here if you can't "smell" the cigarette smoke.)

The goal is to avoid the long time spent in the same stuffy room as the virus shedder thus greatly increasing risk.

High airflow and low exposure times help explain why we aren't all getting Covid from our quick trips to Costco and why being outdoors poses almost no risk.

The funeral home may be very interested in mitigation, such as increasing airflow, since funerals can be superspreader events and their business doesn't need the negative publicity.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

How Can I Attend Family Funeral Safely?

Wear a real mask with a real filter. When you get back to your house, strip naked and get hosed down outside in the sun and de-mask. I’ll bet you real money you won’t get sick…

 

[fish hook]

No way to go into that situation safely. My daughter attended a funeral for a friend that died of covid and 22 people in attendance came down with it. For your wifes sake, don't go.

 

[TammyinWI]

I surely would not go- no ands, ifs, or buts about it. Prayers added here!

 

[Ku Commando]

That’s what that doofy-looking thing I got last year is.

Really now.......

 

[aznurse]

Given your wifes situation there is no safe. She is priority. Vaxed people still spread, so there is no safe.

 

[Jeep]

If you go, N95 mask is a must, stand in the back, don't shake hands, leave as quick as you can, when you get home go in the back door, strip off and put all of your clothes in the washer (don't wear a suit) and wash in hot water, then you get in the shower and wash everything including your hair. Then spray your nasal passages out with saline, and confine yourself for about a week if that is possible. In addition to taking vitamin C and Zinc to boost your immune system.

 

[Redcat]

Hand sanitizer when you can. When you get home, take a shower and change. Also maybe use XClear. Basically, it's what I did this week after going to Costco, except for the shower and change of clothing. So far, so good.

This is our gold standard. When we go out where there are a lot of people (groceries, drug store), we simply shower and wash our clothing. We also will spray our shoes with purell spray (I wash mine with the clothes, they're sketchers). Both of us have a bottle of xClear and I chew xylitol gum. We already use C,D and Zinc daily.