Here They Come After The Guns -Get Ready For A Massive Struggle

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Oh, Puh-lease! Get real!!!

They cannot read and comprehend the english language very well! Congress and senate cannot just pass such a law without going threw the constitutional amendment process and the bill must originate in congress, then it must be sent out to the legislature's of every state and they must agree (Ratify) and send their Collective Yea or Nay back to congress where each state vote is duly recorded by the house sergeant at arms and if enough states say yes it then it's called Ratified by the states and then moves on to become law of the land and the second amendment of the United States Constitution is then null and void without force or effect and the new law takes its place as law.
There have been Executive Orders since 1789. The Dictator has never rescinded any- just added more... After getting the NDAA 2012 on the books, he has only to use his pen... He can kill you, imprison you, take all that is yours, and force you to do forced labor. In all, there isn't ANYTHING he can't do to you- LEGALLY...

You no longer have any rights, freedoms, or privileges, as according to the US Constitution...

Wake-up, Folks. By Congress and the Supreme's sitting on their dead asses, you've been enslaved...

You're now in Enemy Territory, and it'll remain that way until you die, or enough people take our country back...

OA, out...
 

Demodave

Member
Let's see

Via Executive Order
Via UN Treaty
Via reversal of Heller Decison
Martial Law

all kinds of ways that the socialists can Outlaw Guns

Impossible to confiscate. After trying my block alone, the casualties would discourage them from coming to your block...

But Legislate, stop production, tax, etc, you bet

They can stop the increase, but can't stop possession, or use.....
 

Captain D

Senior Member
Impossible to confiscate. After trying my block alone, the casualties would discourage them from coming to your block...
Yeah, I been running this through my mind all evening. There ain't no way they could track down all the ARs and AKs that are out there. It's cost prohibitive, not to mention dangerous to those assigned to collect them. The best they could do would be to outlaw manufacture and possession, but taking them away, I can't see it.
 

Boise Rocker

Conservative Rock Guru
Don't bury your guns, don't try to hide them, don't say they were lost in a boating accident or a fire, none of that. So what if you've filled out 4473s or bought weapons and ammo with credit cards? The federales know what you have, or they suspect you do, and that's good enough for the tyrants.

If there's an assault on our RKBA, it'll be time to use the 2nd Amendment for the purpose it was intended.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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While I'm in the same boat as the rest is their any verification on this from other sources?

Preferably something a bit more lamestream as I'm getting some feedback including "Some half-assed gun-paranoia sites!' on a different forum.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
OK - Take a deep breath - again

The Dems put these bills out every year - nothing new

As long as the Reps hold the House they are all going nowhere.

An AWB is beyond the powers of an EX Order - not going to happen
 

undead

Veteran Member
it's not about confiscating guns

it will be about making them so damn expensive no one can afford them
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
it's not about confiscating guns

it will be about making them so damn expensive no one can afford them
First realistic statement in a while. Now, the way I would do it is to make a gun owner personally liable for any crime that might be committed by someone who stole his gun. Rack up a couple of million $ judgments published far and wide about some little old lady who had her pistol stolen from under her pillow and see what happens.

Shooting ranges are another. For years, the limp weenie, gutless, sell-out NRA has been working on zoning ordinances to 'grandfather' ranges in. That will be stopped and no new rangers allowed when the new regime get going.

Then require that shooting at a range is required for CCW but there are no ranges.

What a shame!

Nope, they are not going to come get your guns, just make them difficult if not impossible to own. So it takes a couple of generations. They can wait.
 

undead

Veteran Member
they'll focus big time on ammo

You've noticed the Feds have already been making MASSIVE purchases of ammo. The ammo manufacturers first will cater to the Fed order, since they will pay top dollar. All manufacturing will go to them, driving up the decreasing availability of what's left for the masses.

Next, they'll put new requirements on guns and ammo, driving up the prices further. Things like additional ammo markings, and gun manufacturing changes.

I can think of a billion ways to jack up the costs, and I'm sure they already are planning most of them.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
coming for we the people's guns started the 1st revolution

took the elites a pretty long time to undo that little revolution

are they really sure they want Revolution2?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
coming for we the people's guns started the 1st revolution

took the elites a pretty long time to undo that little revolution

are they really sure they want Revolution2?
Particularly since it really doesn't impact their ability to wield and enjoy the power they already have. Indeed why stir up the populace when it isn't necessary.
 

JackieD

Contributing Member
My son, who is a gun dealer, called today to tell his dad one of the suppliers he deals with had sold 4000 AR's since yesterday.
 

Warthog

Shits & Giggles ARE OVER!
Proof: Obama Is Coming for Your Guns


Infowars.com
November 9, 2012

While ignorant Obamanoids can’t get past “their” victory in re-electing the president they identify with, our Constitutional republic is quickly crumbling under a second term authoritarian no longer restricted by the prospect of facing another election.

The Obama Administration has openly announced their intent to bring back the Assault Weapons Ban that was “law” for ten years, but this time Dianne Feinstein and the gun-grabbing liberals aren’t just restricting new weapons & ammo purchases, but seeking legislation to require arms be turned in and private sales be barred. Simultaneously, the Obama Administration is helping to revive the United Nations Small Arms Treaty, which will undermine the sovereignty of the 2nd Amendment by putting international control over the flow of weapons and civilian ownership, inevitably affecting gun rights inside the U.S. particularly in border zones.

This is not speculation, this is not hyperbole, this is not myth– but the admitted plan now underway. We must awaken to this authoritarian control measure and stop it through political pressure before it is too late. Get this special report, featuring research by Alex Jones and Infowars reporters David Knight and Aaron Dykes, out to everyone you know!

Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/obama-calls-for-renewal-of-assau…

Globalists Pull Out All Stops to Grab Guns After Obama Victory
http://www.infowars.com/globalists-pull-out-all-stops-to-grab-guns-after-obam…

Turn Them Over: Feinstein Moves To Ban ALL Assault Rifles, High Capacity Magazines, and Pistol Grips
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/turn-them-over-feinstein-moves-to-ban-a…

After Obama win, U.S. backs new U.N. arms treaty talks
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-arms-treaty-un-idUSBRE8A627J2012…

Senator Feinstein looking to introduce new assault weapons ban
http://www.examiner.com/article/senator-feinstein-looking-to-introduce-new-as…

U.N. Celebrates Obama Re-election by Pushing Global Gun Control, says Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.infowars.com/u-n-celebrates-obama-re-election-by-pushing-global-gu…

Hours After Reelection, Obama Green Lights UN Gun Grab
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/13586-hours-after-re-election-obama…



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http://www.infowars.com/proof-obama-is-coming-for-your-guns/
 

Murt

Veteran Member
many are willing to lose their life to keep their guns --how many are willing to do the same for someone in another city or county or state
 

momof23goats

Has No Life - Lives on TB
By law, Congress can override any executive order within a certain time period after the President signs it. So, if that happens, Congress will also be culpable and complicit.
that is right , they could have stopped obama care, and all the taxes and gun grabbing that is in it . but none of them have theback bone to stand up and just get'er done.
 

kendwell

Inactive
UN Gun Control & Heller Decision

The UN gun control will prohibit civilian possession of Military Weapons, of any age, manufacture, copies of, or designs derived from.

CAREFULLY read HELLER for the "new" definition of "Arms", and see how this correlates:

@ pg 53 of the pdf, the all important definitions, Roberts opined there was a difference between civilian "arms" and military arms, re-defining the definition of "ARMS" and thus opening the door to the UN treaty.

Note the lack of response from NRA, GOA, ect.
 

My Adonai

Veteran Member
Here's more info on the broadly written UN arms agreement that has people worried. (email I received)
" This is not a joke nor a false warning

The Full Article Here: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015


U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth?

Obama and the truth have never met.

He is the most consummate liar there is.

What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.

We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).


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