RACE WAR Here Are The Thousands Of Teachers Who Say They’re Willing To Violate Law To Keep Pushing CRT

[PghPanther]

Well it means this whole thread is about black people being lesser humans. Or am I missing something?

Wrong it means that they are different that Whites and we are both adapted to different environments as a result............humans are not the same with just different paint jobs...........there are deep genetic and phenotypic traits that are upstream from behavior and culture which determine that. Read my response to your first claim of racism to my explanation of some differences.

 

[PghPanther]

Some clarification on IQ and genetics/environment impact on that.

There have been 100s of studies of identically tested IQ twins who early in life were removed from a variety of situations (most divorce or other family changes) where one twin ended up in the idea situation for maximizing IQ and the other twin in the worst possible situation for increasing IQ testing and when they've been brought back together as adults and tested for IQ again have no more than a 5 point difference in IQ.

How is it that Asians in this country with the worst possible socio economic environment within one generation occupy most of the STEM post grade classes in America universities today?.............Whereas Blacks have been around here for generations and show little such success?...........you can argue that Asian culture is different that Black culture but that is missing the fact that culture is down stream from genetics in cognitive functioning..

By all real world results IQ is overwhelmingly genetic.............just like running fast or the belly length of your muscles for increasing strength and size are..............no amount of nutrition/training or even drugs can put you into a league of those born with those physical attributes if you weren't born with them.........the same with cognitive functioning of the brain.

The problem is we have a tendency to define what is human by our brains so that can't be addressed for any variation.

and that's further compounded by gender and race today............we are trying to shove round pegs into square holes in cognitive situations and with gender in physical situations and presume the result will be the same..........

.......pure Marxism pushed on the White race by those afraid of Whites figuring out whose behind all this stuff..

 

[West]

Still say that this subject of IQ would not be even debated the way we are today, if we had never gone to a fiat money system in conjunction with this socialist government we have.

Instead it would more clear. And the true racist on both sides would be more in the open. And segregation would be more apparent and wide spread from coast to coast.

However I muse that the American African families would be more stronger and together. If there was no socialist safety nets.

 

[PghPanther]

It all happens during early childhood where 30-50% of IQ is formed. That I am finding in varying percentages in research psych papers.





All very true. The 20% intermixing to which you refer, alludes to the potential for more IQ. A few points can be altered that I believe is a potential. how many points is the key argument.

Doing some digging it appears about ~50% of IQ is genetic. The rest is at home culture, time in school, learning resource availability at home, safety and food security also contributed to greater IQ.

Causes of Intelligence - Child Development Theory: Middle Childhood (8-11)

Much intelligence research has focused on trying to explain the causes of intelligence; where intelligence comes from. At various points in history, particular psychological theorists have suggested that intelligence is primarily an inherited quality (e.g., something formed by biological and geneti

www.gracepointwellness.org

Much intelligence research has focused on trying to explain the causes of intelligence; where intelligence comes from. At various points in history, particular psychological theorists have suggested that intelligence is primarily an inherited quality (e.g., something formed by biological and genetic forces, and inherited from one's parents) or, instead, primarily something influenced by children's environment (e.g., something influenced by school and parental teachings and by exposure to life experiences and opportunities). Both of these views have merit, as it turns out. Currently, most researchers agree that a combination of both genetic and environmental factors contribute to the development of intelligence.

Genetic Influences on Intelligence
One of the ways that researchers can determine whether intelligence is influenced by genetics is to generate "heritability estimates." Heritability estimates are a mathematical way of representing the extent to which genetics contribute to individual differences in observed behavior such as IQ test scores. Heritability is represented as a numerical proportion that ranges from 0.0 (a case where genes do not contribute at all to differences) to 1.0 (a case where genes explain all of the observed differences between IQ scores). A heritability estimate of .40 would suggests that on average, about 40% of observable differences on a particular trait are caused by genetics. Often, heritability estimates are generated based on studies of identical twins who share identical genetics but who have experienced different environments and opportunities while growing up.
Based on such studies of identical twins' IQ scores, researchers have determined that the heritability of intelligence is approximately .50. This heritability value suggests that about half of intelligence is more or less determined or caused by a child's genetics and biology. The other half is determined by environmental factors which include children's socioeconomic status (a measure of family wealth and social status), parent and caregiver attitudes towards education (whether they believe it is important), cultural and educational opportunities, and other similar social factors.

Cultural Influences on Intelligence
IQ scores are influenced by specific cultural experiences, such as exposure to certain language customs and knowledge from an early age. For instance, many low-income African American children are raised with a language style which may be characterized by an emphasis on story telling and the recounting of personal experiences (e.g., "Did you hear about what Mrs. Smith did this morning?"). Many questions appear in this conversational style, but a fair portion of the time, they function more as rhetorical devices designed to engage a conversation rather than as specific requests for precise information. This style of questioning encourages social bonding but it is not particularly good preparation for traditional intelligence tests which typically demand that children generate a specific single correct response to an examiner's questions. Being used to thinking and responding differently in their day to day lives versus what is demanded of them during testing, such children can end up scoring lower on IQ tests than equally-intelligent peers simply because the testing situation itself does not well fit their life preparation.
In contrast, caregivers in middle income (and above) white and Asian families tend to spend a fair amount of time asking children specific knowledge-based questions that have a single "correct" answer (e.g., What is this word? What shape is a stop sign?). These knowledge-based questions are more like the questions that are used in traditional IQ tests. Therefore, these children may feel more comfortable dealing these types of tasks, and therefore score maximally well (in relationship to their actual intelligence) on such tests.
Socioeconomic Influences on Intelligence
Family socioeconomic status (SES) also affects children's development of intelligence. Specifically, research suggests that children from low SES families tend to have lower IQ scores.

Socioeconomic status has to do with a family's economic and social hierarchy status. Higher SES families have higher family incomes and greater access to necessary and optional but desirable resources than lower SES families. Correspondingly, it is much easier for higher SES families to provide for children's needs in terms of food, clothing, shelter and health care, and to offer them an enriched array of opportunities such as education and daycare than for lower SES families.
Children who feel safe, well-fed, and rested, who are healthy, and whose parents value their intellectual development will be better able and motivated to concentrate their energy and attention on mental tasks and tests. In contrast, children who constantly feel afraid for their safety; who are hungry, sick, or chronically exhausted; and whose parents are overwhelmed and not focused on children's education will simply not have as much energy or motivation to spend pursuing their cognitive development. As well, parents who are not struggling to simply meet children's basic needs have the luxury of energy and time they can spend reading to children, playing games with them, and becoming involved in their homework and school related activities. This extra time and attention builds children's intellectual skills and also communicates to children that education is highly valued and important, giving them an advantage over children whose parents cannot provide such attention.

Educational Influences on Intelligence
Researchers have also found that the amount of time children spend in school is highly related to IQ scores. The more time children spend in school, the higher their IQ scores tend to be. The likely explanation for this finding is that teachers train children to answer factual questions, solve problems, and learn specific bodies of knowledge which then prepares them to answer questions appearing in IQ tests which have been formulated along similar lines and which draw upon the same bodies of knowledge taught in school. It follows that children who have more frequent exposure to educational environments are more prepared to respond to IQ style questions in a testing situation, and thus tend to do better on IQ tests than children who do not have as much of this sort of preparation. Therefore, children who miss out on educational opportunities because they're often absent or truant from school, or because they change schools frequently can end up disadvantaged when taking an IQ test.

Your source of information is from an applied behavior scientific organization for the treatment of people not a the research on IQ but the idea that behavior modification impacts it in ways that has not be established by research in the area of biological physics and anthropology............it is their position and claim not fact.....

 

[Millwright]

I really don't give a damn what other people think of my beliefs.

The Constitution gives a lot of leeway for such AND the right to voice opinions on them.

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Some clarification on IQ and genetics/environment impact on that.

There have been 100s of studies of identically tested IQ twins who early in life were removed from a variety of situations (most divorce or other family changes) where one twin ended up in the idea situation for maximizing IQ and the other twin in the worst possible situation for increasing IQ testing and when they've been brought back together as adults and tested for IQ again have no more than a 5% difference in IQ.

How is it that Asians in this country with the worst possible socio economic environment within one generation occupy most of the STEM post grade classes in America universities today?.............Whereas Blacks have been around here for generations and show little such success?...........you can argue that Asian culture is different that Black culture but that is missing the fact that culture is down stream from genetics in cognitive functioning..

By all real world results IQ is overwhelmingly genetic.............just like running fast or the belly length of your muscles for increasing strength and size are..............no amount of nutrition/training can put you into a league of those born with those physical attributes if you weren't born with them.........the same with cognitive functioning of the brain.

The problem is we have a tendency to define what is human by our brains so that can't be addressed for any variation.

The problem is with gender and race today............we are trying to shove round pegs into square holes in cognitive situations and with gender in physical situations and presume the result will be the same..........

.......pure Marxism pushed on the White race by those afraid of Whites figuring out whose behind all this stuff..

This is most of what I was trying to get at. All the reports I was running across indicated a 50% tie of genetics to IQ potential. But the bulk are cultural influences and family/friend/home environmental factors.

DCS actually breaks down intelligence in to different areas such as:
self care
cooking
social skills
reading
talking
comprehension
etc...

Those are used to determine if a child is thriving developmentally and what percentile they are in developmentally in their age group and in their locality.

Culture does tend to have a genetic tie in as a culture is a collection of like individuals be it by ethnicity or by other defined traits or dynamics. But some habits in some cultures lend themselves well to encouraging a higher quotient. Asain culture tends to instill human relational dynamics as part of the learning process which increases IQ along with a high focus on learning everything inside and out.

Much of the stuff I had read indicates that it is early childhood that determines what IQ a person will get beyond anything they would innately possess.

The brainwashing in schools is going to cause a general IQ drain across the board. Common core will also cause this. CRT is another prong to push lowering that. In order for leadership to have more control it is easier to have everyone as dumbed down as is possible.

 

[krf248]

This is most of what I was trying to get at. All the reports I was running across indicated a 50% tie of genetics to IQ potential. But the bulk are cultural influences and family/friend/home environmental factors.

DCS actually breaks down intelligence in to different areas such as:
self care
cooking
social skills
reading
talking
comprehension
etc...

Those are used to determine if a child is thriving developmentally and what percentile they are in developmentally in their age group and in their locality.

Culture does tend to have a genetic tie in as a culture is a collection of like individuals be it by ethnicity or by other defined traits or dynamics. But some habits in some cultures lend themselves well to encouraging a higher quotient. Asain culture tends to instill human relational dynamics as part of the learning process which increases IQ along with a high focus on learning everything inside and out.

Much of the stuff I had read indicates that it is early childhood that determines what IQ a person will get beyond anything they would innately possess.

The brainwashing in schools is going to cause a general IQ drain across the board. Common core will also cause this. CRT is another prong to push lowering that. In order for leadership to have more control it is easier to have everyone as dumbed down as is possible.

I think we can definitely agree on the fact that our education system is failing our youth. I'll abstain from the genetics=>IQ conversation but that is what it really boils down to. What our kids are being taught at peak neuroplasticity

 

[PghPanther]

I'll add that as a senior software engineer I may be as hesitant to hire you as you would me. Not losing sleep over it, just food for thought

You are showing your ignorance in your subjective claim..........that you may be one of a few Blacks capable of such functioning and assume because you can all Blacks or most can..........but the evidence says you are the exception not the rule.

Point of case.............100 yard dash..................there hasn't been a White world class sprinter in 50 years................but soon there may be one.....but that doesn't mean there will be more White sprinters in the future. Just that he's the exception.

One other thing..............IQ testing has a correlation of .8 in potential success in life (which you should know from the Pearson Product movement in Statistical analysis is gold for accuracy at that level) ............

That stated 120 is considered for post grade work.......130 for Doctors.............140 is gifted and 160 is genius.

There is a rare area of 170 and above that are the game changers in society.......where inventions and discoveries of brilliance change profoundly the applied sciences as they relate to progress in civilization............

Among the millions of humans in all races tested very few Black have ever tested in the 140 range...............

Northern Asians have a slight advantage in their mean IQ over Whites ..............and women in all races are very close to their male counterparts to be consider the same.

But there is one exception...................the IQ 170 and above is dominated by White males ...............either gender of any other races (Asians included) and White females in particular are unheard of testing in this area.

Makes one wonder why White males and their Western culture split the atom and were walking on the moon when the rest of the races were still trying to figure out how to get enough food and clean water to drink........

But the cultural Marxist call out White males as the oppressors and they must be eliminated or socially compromised to irrelevancy..........

I contend BTW...............that cultural Marxism.......(because of the the source of most people behind it) is a ploy.........a bait and switch. The goal is to make the White race irrelevant to societies. In a way to where they tell you everyone will finally get that level playing field................a noble claim on their part.

But once Whites are reduced or race mixed into an irrelevant group........then the switch takes over and they now have people they can control through their centralized global power.................

Whites...........White men in particular with their 2nd amendment gun rights are the speed bump in the way.

Whites in 1950 were 85% of America and 30% of the Worlds population.

Today Whites are 59% of Americans and less than 11% of the Worlds population.............Whites are disappearing and with it a new dark age of Global feudalism will rule the world.

Non elite Marxists who are not the source of this movement better be careful what they ask for as they will end up in a World wide prison over their claims of being oppressed in now.

 

[krf248]

You are showing your ignorance in your subjective claim..........that you may be one of a few Blacks capable of such functioning and assume because you can all Blacks or most can..........but the evidence says you are the exception not the rule.

Point of case.............100 yard dash..................there hasn't been a White world class sprinter in 50 years................but soon there may be one.....but that doesn't mean there will be more White sprinters in the future. Just that he's the exception.

One other thing..............IQ testing has a correlation of .8 in potential success in life (which you should know from the Pearson Product movement in Statistical analysis is gold for accuracy at that level) ............

That stated 120 is considered for post grade work.......130 for Doctors.............140 is gifted and 160 is genius.

There is a rare area of 170 and above that are the game changers in society.......where inventions and discoveries of brilliance change profoundly the applied sciences as they relate to progress in civilization............

Among the millions of humans in all races tested very few Black have ever tested in the 140 range...............

Northern Asians have a slight advantage in their mean IQ over Whites ..............and women in all races are very close to their male counterparts to be consider the same.

But there is one exception...................the IQ 170 and above is dominated by White males ...............either gender of any other races (Asians included) and White females in particular are unheard of testing in this area.

Makes one wonder why White males and their Western culture split the atom and were walking on the moon when the rest of the races were still trying to figure out how to get enough food and clean water to drink........

But the cultural Marxist call them the enemy and they must be eliminated...................be careful what you ask for.

That's a very round about way of saying that I'm an outlier, which I've admitted to and agree with. I disagree with the assertion that the color of my skin had anything to do with it. I was adopted by a well off white family. That is probably more significant in my development than my genetics. I'm not going to argue the point beyond that

 

[PghPanther]

This is most of what I was trying to get at. All the reports I was running across indicated a 50% tie of genetics to IQ potential. But the bulk are cultural influences and family/friend/home environmental factors.

DCS actually breaks down intelligence in to different areas such as:
self care
cooking
social skills
reading
talking
comprehension
etc...

Those are used to determine if a child is thriving developmentally and what percentile they are in developmentally in their age group and in their locality.

Culture does tend to have a genetic tie in as a culture is a collection of like individuals be it by ethnicity or by other defined traits or dynamics. But some habits in some cultures lend themselves well to encouraging a higher quotient. Asain culture tends to instill human relational dynamics as part of the learning process which increases IQ along with a high focus on learning everything inside and out.

Much of the stuff I had read indicates that it is early childhood that determines what IQ a person will get beyond anything they would innately possess.

The brainwashing in schools is going to cause a general IQ drain across the board. Common core will also cause this. CRT is another prong to push lowering that. In order for leadership to have more control it is easier to have everyone as dumbed down as is possible.

Evidence once again demonstrates that the cognitively gifted are born and will remain that way..........doesn't mean they may find their potential in society so the environment is important to keep someone gifted from losing ambition or discipline however, we should be realistic and those that cognitively test at the low end be considered for training in trades or other areas..........and not shove them into areas of education that they will fail and only further fuel their social frustration.

 

[West]

I think we can definitely agree on the fact that our education system is failing our youth. I'll abstain from the genetics=>IQ conversation but that is what it really boils down to. What our kids are being taught at peak neuroplasticity

Indeed!

The socialist school system paid by government who first steals the currency from land owners to provide the government education, has failed us.

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

I think we can definitely agree on the fact that our education system is failing our youth. I'll abstain from the genetics=>IQ conversation but that is what it really boils down to. What our kids are being taught at peak neuroplasticity

Most science argues that, but, I think they are limited to not address the home environment equates to IQ, not genetics. But I do tend to agree that the bulk of all IQ comes from the home environment. I really think that there are too many political egos that scientific groups are incapable of touching let alone bruising and true findings on the matter are not something we will see until science becomes non political.

I once went to school with a super genius. He kept flunking because he was bored out of his ever loving gourd. Our education system can not handle smart folk nor can they handle gifted folks. His tests basically indicated that his quotient was at a scale that they could not accurately measure. I honestly think he could have done even better had the school system offered him even more mental acquity challenges. I was always floored that they would punish him for being able to do everything mentally and still give the correct answer.

 

[PghPanther]

That's a very round about way of saying that I'm an outlier, which I've admitted to and agree with. I disagree with the assertion that the color of my skin had anything to do with it. I was adopted by a well off white family. That is probably more significant in my development than my genetics. I'm not going to argue the point beyond that

not round about......a very direct way.

However, I will conclude by wishing you well and the fortunate situation you found......

..but whether it makes a difference or not in just a few generations there won't be any more White successful families left for that to even happen anymore......

 

[Millwright]

Evidence once again demonstrates that the cognitively gifted are born and will remain that way..........doesn't mean they may find their potential in society so the environment is important to keep someone gifted from losing ambition or discipline however, we should be realistic and those that cognitively test at the low end be considered for training in trades or other areas..........and not shove them into areas of education that they will fail and only further fuel their social frustration.

Social potential is met when they can sign their name on a voter's registration and check the box by every D candidate.

Government cheeze is structured to farm those votes....plantation style.

THAT'S what the education system is geared to produce in blue areas....more blue voters.

 

[PghPanther]

Most science argues that, but, I think they are limited to not address the home environment equates to IQ, not genetics. But I do tend to agree that the bulk of all IQ comes from the home environment. I really think that there are too many political egos that scientific groups are incapable of touching let alone bruising and true findings on the matter are not something we will see until science becomes non political.

I once went to school with a super genius. He kept flunking because he was bored out of his ever loving gourd. Our education system can not handle smart folk nor can they handle gifted folks. His tests basically indicated that his quotient was at a scale that they could not accurately measure. I honestly think he could have done even better had the school system offered him even more mental acquity challenges. I was always floored that they would punish him for being able to do everything mentally and still give the correct answer.

If you look at the history of public education K-12 it was started and fueled by corporations needing obedient workers to fill their jobs not for enlightenment, crticial thinking and a path to higher education.........

 

[krf248]

Most science argues that, but, I think they are limited to not address the home environment equates to IQ, not genetics. But I do tend to agree that the bulk of all IQ comes from the home environment. I really think that there are too many political egos that scientific groups are incapable of touching let alone bruising and true findings on the matter are not something we will see until science becomes non political.

I once went to school with a super genius. He kept flunking because he was bored out of his ever loving gourd. Our education system can not handle smart folk nor can they handle gifted folks. His tests basically indicated that his quotient was at a scale that they could not accurately measure. I honestly think he could have done even better had the school system offered him even more mental acquity challenges. I was always floored that they would punish him for being able to do everything mentally and still give the correct answer.

That I can relate to that. I dropped out. I got in to the navy on college credits. They clocked me at 165

 

[PghPanther]

That I can relate to that. I dropped out. I got in to the navy on college credits. They clocked me at 165

Good Gawd...........165?.....................that's Nobel prize winning physics area.........

 

[krf248]

Good Gawd...........165?.....................that's Nobel prize winning physics area.........

Yes I'm a high school drop out senior software engineer... at a bleeding edge medical company.

 

[artichoke]

I previously linked a medical journal article stating that IQ is 50% (the percentage varies based on article and research methodologies used) genetic. Here is another one:

Is intelligence determined by genetics?: MedlinePlus Genetics

Factors that affect intelligence include genes, education, nutrition, and others. Learn more about how genetics impacts intelligence.

medlineplus.gov

The IQ issue is outside of genetics. I have consistently said that.

William lynch taught fellow slave owners a methodology by which to more easily control slaves and this eventually became ingrained in black culture

https://www.saberesafricanos.net/phocadownloadpap/libros/Lets_Make_A_Slave_The_Making_Of_A_Slave.pdf

I never said anyone owes them more.

The core issue if anything is culture and home environments as causes of the issue. The medical papers consistently say that home environment is the biggest determining factor in developmental IQ advancement.

Effect of environmental factors on intelligence quotient of children | Request PDF

Request PDF | Effect of environmental factors on intelligence quotient of children | Introduction A child's intelligence quotient (IQ) is determined by both genetic and environmental factors that start from the prenatal period... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

The psychiatry journals are very odd reads and more or less point out that a multitude of home factors determine that ability to obtain a higher IQ score.

There is also a lot of psychiatric information regarding trauma and regressive behaviors. You have to learn that sort of stuff as part of being a foster parent. The person's mind will regress back to the state of first experience trauma until that trauma is processed. Again this regression will have a direct affect on IQ development. And there is some indications that those with a higher IQ are less likely to have experienced child hood traumas.

Trauma and Stressor-related Disorders in Children | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Trauma and stressor-related disorders are a group of emotional and behavioral problems that may result from childhood traumatic and stressful experiences.

www.chop.edu

Age Regression: What It Is, Why It Happens & When It May Be Helpful

Age regression is the term for when an individual mentally and emotionally returns to a younger age. This can be a choice to help relieve stress, a symptom of a mental illness, or a therapeutic aid. We'll explore what age regression really means and when it might be helpful.

www.healthline.com

Evidence That the Impact of Childhood Trauma on IQ Is Substantial in Controls, Moderate in Siblings, and Absent in Patients With Psychotic Disorder

Research suggests that childhood trauma is associated with cognitive alterations, but it is not known whether the cognitive alterations observed in patients with psychotic disorder, and their relatives, is trauma-related. Patients with a schizophrenia-spectrum ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

High IQs May Help Thwart Post-Traumatic Stress

www.scientificamerican.com

The reading on "Let's make a slave" is very clear and reveals the social engineering being done now on whites as well as on blacks. Black males are ending up in prison a lot, and also we set up the welfare system to encourage the man to go away or be pushed out. The independent female isn't all that independent, and the man is a powerless mess.

The "women's movement" did the same among whites. Recently black women have horned in and claimed those feminist benefits via intersectional feminism, displacing white females whenever they could, and they have been very aggressive about it. So they may be righting white slave / peasant society (everything, including middle class, below the ruling class) to a small extent.

Among the ruling class, it's still done to have the man work and the wife stay home and raise 4 or 5 children. The gay and transgender movements throw some weird twists into it. But despite the great furor about them, they've always been small numbers. We've always had eunuchs. They are mentioned in the Bible, not in condemnation.

Regarding trauma, I certainly hope that children have lives with minimal trauma. All childhoods have some. Not sure if there's any correlation with race or economic circumstance.

"The Bell Curve" (Herrnstein and Murray) concluded that IQ is far more than 50% nature. This book has been roundly condemned in professional circles, but that condemnation is essentially a form of political correctness. Charles Murray has even disavowed the work (which did not save him by being assaulted by thugs enrolled as undergraduate students at Middlebury College a few years ago), but it's notable that he did so on political grounds and did not cite substantive grounds -- because substantive grounds to dismiss the work do not exist.

 

[artichoke]

Good Gawd...........165?.....................that's Nobel prize winning physics area.........

When Feynman said he was 124, he was about a point off ----------- in the left column. 124 doesn't even try the Putnam competition, let alone win it.

For context, note that Terman and others after him have consistently found that the IQ distribution is not Gaussian, but has fat tails. There is no theoretical reason it should be Gaussian (it's unrelated to the sum of flips of a coin, where heads is 1 and tails is 0, for example), and it isn't, not even close. So 165 is less rare than it would be, based on a Gaussian curve with mean and standard deviation estimated from the meaty mass at the center of the curve.

Test publishers put out tables of IQ percentiles based on the Gaussian assumption, and it's way off in the tails. Psychometricians, who aren't very mathy and don't apparently have to read Terman, are taught that this is very advanced and add this very wrong set of numbers to the arsenal of professional knowledge they're so proud of.

 

[Marie]

Saw two old coworkers on that list. Doesn't surprise me. They were flaming idiots then.