bbbuddy
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Ivermectin discovered in 1975. Not in general use immediately, of course, so would have been late 70s probably...
CORONA Heads up for HD Post on COVID this morning.
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Meadowlark
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Firebird
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psychgirl
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Yes
Any evidence to support this?
I just got off the phone with a customer, an ER Doc in a western state. He said there is an uptick in cases coming ino the ER, but just what you expect for this time of year. He said many times a patient recovers much faster from the covid strains going around than from the RSV Flu and RINO virus going around. Some come in sick, are treated and come back two weeks later saying they never got well. A new test shows that they got something else as they were healing from the first thing.
He said the test they are using tests for 20 different things so they know what treatment to use.
He said the test they are using tests for 20 different things so they know what treatment to use.
I would have to Google. I did research on it way back so it's probably in my computer somewhere.
A quick Google search:
The Most Important Question About Long COVID
And why answering it holds the key to treating and preventing this condition and others like it
Is there a link between long COVID and Epstein-Barr virus?
Two small studies suggest that reactivation of the Epstein-Barr virus may have associations with more severe COVID-19 and long COVID.
www.medicalnewstoday.com
Epstein-Barr virus reactivation may be the cause of long COVID symptoms
Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) reactivation resulting from the inflammatory response to coronavirus infection may be the cause of previously unexplained long COVID symptoms -- such as fatigue, brain fog, and rashes -- that occur in approximately 30% of patients after recovery from initial COVID-19...
www.news-medical.net
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For These 17 COVID Long Haulers, Reactivated Viruses May Be to Blame
Because of the compromised state of long haulers' bodies, previously dormant viruses are reactivating and becoming chronic infections.
Epstein Barr Virus Reactivation during COVID-19 Hospitalization Significantly Increased Mortality/Death in SARS-CoV-2(+)/EBV(+) than SARS-CoV-2(+)/EBV(−) Patients: A Comparative Meta-Analysis
Epstein–Barr virus (EBV) reactivation in acute-phase of COVID-19 disease was recently discovered but it is not clear in terms of degree of mortality caused, and this was the aim of the current study. Six databases and three non‐databases ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
There are loads more, but these should get you started.
Seeker22
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So far, my ass remains unchapped, but I will admit to my trigger finger getting a wee bit itchy.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
A lot of people that bought into the vaccines are dead.
bw
Fringe Ranger
From the lack of feedback I'm hearing, my extended family appears to be as yet untouched. I feel very lucky for us to have gotten this far.
et2
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Same here
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Just because:
COVID AKA SARS-COV-19 is a CORONAVIRUS. And it sits on the CORONAVIRUS limb of the biologic tree, with several COV variants.
"The FLU" is an INFLUENZA VIRUS, which sits on a whole different BRANCH (a VERY different branch) on that tree.
There is NO RELATIONSHIP between the 2.
ALLA YA FOLKS who keep saying "It's ALL FLU", whether through misinformedness or misunderstanding, are liars as much as Dr. Mengele-Fauci.
COVID AKA SARS-COV-19 is a CORONAVIRUS. And it sits on the CORONAVIRUS limb of the biologic tree, with several COV variants.
"The FLU" is an INFLUENZA VIRUS, which sits on a whole different BRANCH (a VERY different branch) on that tree.
There is NO RELATIONSHIP between the 2.
ALLA YA FOLKS who keep saying "It's ALL FLU", whether through misinformedness or misunderstanding, are liars as much as Dr. Mengele-Fauci.
bw
Fringe Ranger
No, people may be wrong but they are not liars.
momma_soapmaker
Disgusted
Covid is NOT the flu. We have stacks of hospital records to prove it.
No shots.
We had two different specialists tell us the VIRUS ITSELF is causing damage to the body, whether or not someone took the shots. They've seen heart and lung damage, autoimmune diseases, etc.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Nope, not completely. Some of this came out before Nightwolf died. He used his Ph.D. level brain to not only go over the original papers given to doctors (and published in medical journals) but also had all his medical school classes. He only failed to get his MD license because his health started to fail trying to do a residency still designed for 20-somethings, and he was in his early 50s.
His Dad and my Father-in-Law (now in his 90s) was rather famous in his field (I've seen him on TV and in the newspapers) and was also the administrator of a major Texas hospital for many years. The reason we ended up in Ireland is that Nightwolf was born with physical issues that made him uninsurable in the United States in 1996. His Father couldn't believe it and looked everywhere, and afterward, it shook his faith in the American medical system because there was nothing that would cover the things that might go wrong with him. Unless I went back to work for the Federal Government, which, by law, congress has required that any health insurance company insuring Federal Employees must cover all pre-existing conditions and those of their families. Or they can't be part of the Federal system. I know the laws have changed since then, but it didn't change soon enough for us to return to the USA.
I also worked in bankruptcy court and later did the starter paperwork for security clearance for the US government (Dept of Justice). One of the things we had to do was to copy and verify work on bankruptcies. This was from 1989 to 1991. At that time, most bankruptcies in the US were about 50/50 credit card or medical debt. Some of the medical debts were both sad and horrible. The two worst were the woman who was her husband's secretary, and they were insured. He had a heart attack and spent about six weeks in the ICU before he died. The insurance topped out, and the poor women had to declare bankruptcy because the bill was hundreds of thousands of dollars in the late 1980s. The other was a young married couple, both employed and insured. They had a baby that was severely disabled and was in the hospital for six months before it died. Their bills topped way over a million dollars again in 1980s dollars. They had insurance and good jobs, but the insurance cap didn't begin to cover this. So they were also forced into bankruptcy - these were professional and insured people.
I could go on, but I am well aware that while 12,000 dollars is next to nothing in today's medical bills (especially in the United States), it is better than the hospital getting nothing (or very little) because the person is self-employed and has no insurance at all; the family can't pay because they can't come up with gigantic co-pays now required before their employer's coverage will kick in, or because they are employed in a low-level job doesn't pay much and again if they have insurance the co-pays are so high they can never pay them.
So, the cash-strapped hospital not only has a billing system that no one can understand, but they are desperate for any money they can get, especially with patients they know they may only get a little out of.
I know people who have worked in insurance (I worked for the worker's compensation oversight board in Colorado and also dealt directly with claims when the employer was uninsured and the like). Often, their job is to deny as many claims as possible or refuse to approve treatment, or they get demoted and fired. These jobs can be so stressful for a normal and caring person that mental breakdowns are not uncommon.
Finally, after much research, 20 years later (his, not mine), my father-in-law told my husband that we probably should not return to the US. Because the US healthcare system, especially the hospital system, was so out of whack, many hospitals no longer provide insurance for the families of their doctors. By this time, I already had underlying conditions myself, and I wasn't 65 yet, so I did not yet qualify for that magical age when most Americans qualify for the socialist government health care, which many claim to hate until they reach that age (often really need it, often from previously untreated conditions).
So we decided as an extended family that had he gotten his license to practice, we would stay here. Because we simply couldn't afford to live in the US and risk my having a health crisis. Or if he were to have one between jobs or something.
This was about 20 years after the first time....
Do you have any other questions about my not knowing anything or simply doing my own research? Always happy to write a very long and sometimes rather boring post; I'm rather famous for it after 20 plus years on this forum...lol
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
I got back in 1980, so it would have been out for five years, and boy, did it make me er...a.. "go"...
Melodi
Disaster Cat
This is a known side effect of many vaccines [Epstine-Barr]. My father-in-law has been paralyzed with it for about 15 years now; he still keeps working and came out of retirement to treat patients when the veteran's waiting lists were so long at the VA a few years ago. But he got him as a side effect of a flu vaccine. This is just a terrible condition that can happen with a lot of vaccines - traditional or mRNA.A quick Google search:
The Most Important Question About Long COVID
And why answering it holds the key to treating and preventing this condition and others like ithms.harvard.edu
Is there a link between long COVID and Epstein-Barr virus?
Two small studies suggest that reactivation of the Epstein-Barr virus may have associations with more severe COVID-19 and long COVID.
Epstein-Barr virus reactivation may be the cause of long COVID symptoms
Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) reactivation resulting from the inflammatory response to coronavirus infection may be the cause of previously unexplained long COVID symptoms -- such as fatigue, brain fog, and rashes -- that occur in approximately 30% of patients after recovery from initial COVID-19...
For These 17 COVID Long Haulers, Reactivated Viruses May Be to Blame
Because of the compromised state of long haulers' bodies, previously dormant viruses are reactivating and becoming chronic infections.www.verywellhealth.com
Epstein Barr Virus Reactivation during COVID-19 Hospitalization Significantly Increased Mortality/Death in SARS-CoV-2(+)/EBV(+) than SARS-CoV-2(+)/EBV(−) Patients: A Comparative Meta-Analysis
Epstein–Barr virus (EBV) reactivation in acute-phase of COVID-19 disease was recently discovered but it is not clear in terms of degree of mortality caused, and this was the aim of the current study. Six databases and three non‐databases ...
There are loads more, but these should get you started.
Samuel Adams
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Which is fraud.
Or…..coming from an “elected representative”…..or, a “trusted medical industry representative”……far worse.
When the medical community interchanged the two, partially to make more money because of the CV spiffs and partially because they sold their souls on the alter of 'go along to get along', then JQPublic didn't have a chance at understanding anything about this mess.
What you brought up, Chuck, is another example of the CV19 fraud.
It's all lies. All of it.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yes, vaccines for sure. Any kind of stress can do it: major surgery, trauma, COVID and other intense illness.
My naturopath is great with reactivated EBV; most doctors don't even know to do all the tests. The best resource I've found is this Facebook group:
Log into Facebook
Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.
www.facebook.com
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Sorry, gang, my spell checker (and grammar) did it again. My father-in-law retired for the last time just before COVID. His illness and my MIL's fading away from dementia meant he needed to stay home. Until recently, he still did research and some writing on his computer. But during COVID, his eyesight worsened, and he could no longer do this. He couldn't have surgery until COVID was over, and at his now advanced age, he has weighed the risks and decided his late-twilight years will be spent listening to audiobooks and other forms of mental stimulation.
Yes, this is sad, but he has reached an age many people never see with his brilliant mind intact. My SIL, her husband, and nephew spend as much time as possible, flying across the county to be with him and keep him company. My Mother-in-law is happy in her own home and watching football. So much better than a certain Resident in the White House with a similar condition, who I gather is angry, over-medicated, and probably feeling abandoned and lost most of the time. I mean, I don't have Uncle Biden's medical information, but I have eyes to see and ears to hear.
Yes, this is sad, but he has reached an age many people never see with his brilliant mind intact. My SIL, her husband, and nephew spend as much time as possible, flying across the county to be with him and keep him company. My Mother-in-law is happy in her own home and watching football. So much better than a certain Resident in the White House with a similar condition, who I gather is angry, over-medicated, and probably feeling abandoned and lost most of the time. I mean, I don't have Uncle Biden's medical information, but I have eyes to see and ears to hear.
Thank you! Just ordered some!
Tristan
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Every gastro guy I spoke with (they happened to all be guys) admitted they had bowel perforations in their portfolio during colonoscopies. (Interestingly, when I looked it was very difficult to find statistics on that possible outcome - surely the data is kept somewhere?)
One stood out, however. When asked if he had experienced bowel perforations during colonoscopies, He first said no, then kinda winced, then said yeah, he'd had one, but they're very rare, then said the several he had had were 'largely due' to adhesions and/or other anomalies...
The way he presented that info was not inspiring of confidence.
Some patients expire under anesthesia. I've heard of cases myself, although I hear it's much less common today...
Some folks don't like invasive procedures, especially when they can go south like that pretty quickly.
Tristan
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kenny1659
Veteran Member
My DW is down with the latest strain, she had the other new strain in October. I felt bad for a couple of days both times but shook it off and got over it. DW had to take the first 2 shots so she could get into the hospital to see me. I have had none of the vaccines but was very sick the first go around.
A colonoscopy. Yes there are risks to any procedure. There are no real substitutes.
Profit of Doom
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Flu is easy to treat with a little knowledge. Adequate D3, elderberry, and a couple other nutraceuticals.
Zoner
Veteran Member
Many see it and the vaccines as a bio weapon.
briches
Veteran Member
Off topic (kinda). I truly believe a colonoscopy helped save my life last year.
Prepping today for one tomorrow. I would get them yearly if I could. (will be curious to see when they recommend I come back now that I am a year post surgery).
They are preventative (when they remove polyps) and diagnostic. The polyp that I had surgically removed last year (along with 15 inches of my colon) would not have been detected by a cologuard. It was precancerous. My best friend (at the age of 53) passed of colon cancer when it spread everywhere when she discovered it. (She never got her 50 year check) I am lucky that same story wasn’t me.
The prep certainly isn’t fun, but in the grand scheme of things, I choose this path (for me).
(and the new recommended age to get one is 45).
Back to the covid talk ….
SSTemplar
Veteran Member
Sorry but I will not be falling for the least amount of the propaganda this time around. The last time THEY kept me in my house for two weeks for nothing and worse it was months before I saw any of my grandchildren. This time I expect half of the population to fall over dead from the preventive action most people took last time and hope the smell doesn’t get to bad.
SmithJ
Veteran Member
A lot of people that got Covid before the vaccines are dead.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
How many names and faces will you continue to ignore? We have literally pages on this forum of died suddenlies. We have many athletes in their prime years having issues. Here is one more for you to ignore:
Frederik Andersen is out indefinitely with a blood clotting issue.
The 34-year-old hasn't played since Nov. 2, when he made 24 saves for the Carolina Hurricanes in a 2-1 loss to the New York Rangers. He is 4-1-0 with a 2.87 goals-against average and .894 save percentage in six starts this season.
"During recent medical testing, it was discovered that Frederik Andersen had a blood clotting issue that needed to be addressed," Hurricanes general manager Don Waddell said. https://www.nhl.com/player/frederik-andersen-8475883
Frederik Andersen is out indefinitely with a blood clotting issue.
The 34-year-old hasn't played since Nov. 2, when he made 24 saves for the Carolina Hurricanes in a 2-1 loss to the New York Rangers. He is 4-1-0 with a 2.87 goals-against average and .894 save percentage in six starts this season.
"During recent medical testing, it was discovered that Frederik Andersen had a blood clotting issue that needed to be addressed," Hurricanes general manager Don Waddell said. https://www.nhl.com/player/frederik-andersen-8475883
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A lot of people that that were not treated with HCQ or IVM because of Fauci and others are dead. Tyson and Fareed were successfully treating patients by March 2020. If you started early enough, you didn’t die. If Public Health actually cared about the health of the public, millions would still be alive, both from successful treatment, and from EUA vaccines not used because there was effective treatment.
In addition, I do believe that using the vaccines killed more than they saved from Covid.
bev
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Just wondering why you had so much of your colon removed if the polyp was just precancerous?
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Would this have been clearing out parasites?
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Yes.