CORONA Heads up for HD Post on COVID this morning.

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
COVID, 9mm, traffic accidents, muggings and any of thousands of other ways to check out from this life are hazards that are constantly all around you. Most people don't consciously think about these things, but no one gets out of this life alive.

The best you can do is live honorably and intelligently.

Best
Doc
 

Bones

Living On A Prayer
Multivitamin gummy, B Complex, Double dose C gummy, D3, N actylel L cistine, quercetin, zinc. No vxcn.

I've knowingly been in close contact with 4 cases, 2 times was my wife. Not ever had a sniffle during the hell they unleashed upon us.

**BIG hat tip to my bestest nurse who has become as family to my heart.**
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Any insights on how to prepare for this one? Still on the vitamin D, Vitamin C, zinc, melatonin protocol here.
Well, I got good news that most people don't wanna hear.
The spike protein in Covid attaches to NICOTINE RECEPTER cells all over your body.
If you are wearing a nicotine patch ( or smoking )
the nicotine will evict the spike Covid protein from the nicotine receptor cells, as it PREFERS nicotine.
Now you know, do with it what you will.
 
Agreed. Just pointing out, when the hospital gets $5,000 for treating the flu, and $12,000 for Covid, which has no approved treatment besides RunDeathIsNear, and ventilator, charging more the longer you live in their care, and more money if you die from it, it’s no wonder things went south.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
It is curious that diagnosed influenza dropped precipitously just when Covid blossomed. Apparently it was profitable to call it Covid no matter what it really was.
Influenza is spread by droplets. You had lower transmission because everyone was wearing masks. Covid was aerosol so less effective unless everyone is wearing N95 or better.

Masks were always used to mitigate droplet spread, long before COVID was a thing.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Isn't that EXACTLY what it is ?! :shr: "test is negative"........2 years later stage four colon cancer. "test is positive"......3 months later after an expensive and uncomfortable 'scope'....all good ! LOL
Nope. It's meant to placate patients who refuse to go get colonoscopies which is the best way to screen for malignancies.
The same thank is done when you look for blood in the stool. If its there does it mean cancer? No, not necessarily. could be ulcers or diverticulitis or hemorrhoids.

People want fast, easy, and convenient. You trade accuracy for that.

Every diagnostic tool has false positives and false negatives. Sometimes the predictive value is when a test is negative. I don't know where the assumption that everything is 100% reliable 100% of the time came about. Nothing works that way.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Well, I got good news that most people don't wanna hear.
The spike protein in Covid attaches to NICOTINE RECEPTER cells all over your body.
If you are wearing a nicotine patch ( or smoking )
the nicotine will evict the spike Covid protein from the nicotine receptor cells, as it PREFERS nicotine.
Now you know, do with it what you will.
Several studies going on about this now, mostly related to if this competitive binding on those receptors can mitigate the longer term effects. Unfortunately it won't keep you from getting it (primary binding is the ACE2 receptor--interestingly enough a competitive binding approach was postulated early on that BP medications like Losartan (an angiotensing 2 receptor blocker) may lower the transmissibility of covid but didn't pan out that I am aware of.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Agreed. Just pointing out, when the hospital gets $5,000 for treating the flu, and $12,000 for Covid, which has no approved treatment besides RunDeathIsNear, and ventilator, charging more the longer you live in their care, and more money if you die from it, it’s no wonder things went south.
It would be interesting if any of that were actually true.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I have a friend who is a physician (still qualified) in her 90s. She said that when she was in medical school (I think in the 1940s), she studied under doctors who practiced before Penacillian was found. She said that Ivermectan was one of the drugs they used against viruses, especially respiratory viruses and other ones that seemed like super-colds. Aka, Corona or related viruses.

Common sense would also suggest D (lots of people who died of COVID-19 were low in it), Elderberry tinctures (they used it in Israel in hospitals), and other common-sense stuff.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I have a friend who is a physician (still qualified) in her 90s. She said that when she was in medical school (I think in the 1940s), she studied under doctors who practiced before Penacillian was found. She said that Ivermectan was one of the drugs they used against viruses
Ivermectin isn't that old, as I read it.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I have run tons of articles (some in the mainstream media) that the Federal Government would pay up to 12,000 dollars in Federal funding for treating (or some treatments) COVID-19 patients. So yes, you don't have to believe in any conspiracy to see how cash-strapped, failing hospitals might be encouraged to diagnose nearly everyone they can with COVID-19.

Not only that, but I remember both the news and people here discussing how because the funding was to treat these patients, patients who died were being tested and recorded as "Died of COVID" (later changed to WITH COVID). But that was changed because the mainstream news got ahold of the records of the guy who was killed when decapitated in a motorcycle accident, and he was listed on the death certificate as "Died of COVID-19). The hospital got extra cash to cover his "treatment." The family was not amused, and I gathered and demanded an investigation.

I always hear stories like this from friends and family in the US. The federal government also only paid for treatments like reservoirs. Hundreds of people (many of whom have written about their experience) were not only not treated with much of anything until they were sick enough for the hospital. However, the Federal Government would pay for some of their medical care if the hospital only provided the approved treatments. One of which had such bad results during the original drug trials that it was not a best seller.

Otherwise, RoundtheBend, I am going to suspect that at the very least, like many medical people, you are too busy to have followed this story, so you might want to look at the long thread and do some of your own checking.

These things did happen. I'm sure there are many links to articles on the long COVID thread. If you have other information that contradicts this that is verified; I'd be interested to see it.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Ivermectin isn't that old, as I read it.
OK, I'll ask my friend tomorrow (she goes to bed early) because I obviously got the dates wrong. But she said they did use it and had her entire extended family using it before the stories broke in the press. I'll ask her what time period this was. I mean I was given it (I think) in the 1970s when I came back with uninvited "guests" in my digestive tract, probably from the edges of the Amazon River.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
"Long Covid" = vaccine injuries.

Long COVID = GOF Original Intent.

The b@$+@r9’$ designed a gift that keeps on giving.

I’ve not been vaX’ed that I know of in any conventional - traditional manner. DELTA hit me in 2021 as immunity fell (not enough rest) and pushing myself physically.

I was 8-days down. Two months to recovering Top-Tier breathing over fatigue in former physical pursuits.

The co-worker 18 years younger that I caught it from, was down 3-weeks, and lost his mother and a FIL, who were at the same social gathering and came down with it.

Long COVID…. Hmmm. About a year later, I experienced balance problems getting out of bed at night walking to the bathroom. I had to use my extended arms as outriggers to prevent plunging to one side. This went on for over a week before…

During my CV-19 DELTA experience I recalled throwing a traditional Washoe (North American) Indian flu remedy at it, but a bit late into the symptom stage, at 3-days in. Did it lessen my 8-day vigil…?

I had read that the Washoe Indians did not lose a soul to The 1918 Spanish Flu, as documented by a U.S. doctor out of Carson City NV in the era. Dr. Kriebs or a name similar.

I had also recalled reading that modern (recent-research) 2020+ declared that CV-19 could “sleep in the nerve cells” for (?how long?)

I considered my balance problem a neurological or inner ear infection of unknown origin, yet the sleeping in the nerve cells (((seemed))) like a possibility.


I recalled the Washoe would treat herpes, a virus that is also said to ‘sleep in the nerves cells’ with the local wild crafted plant of Lomatium Dissectum. Used fresh in a tea, the traditional manner of digging up the fibrous resin root, and slicing longitudinal and allowing the golden resin to weep out and dry, scraping ‘some’ of the dry resin off later to put in the rolling boil teapot for a few minutes.

The other way was to use a small amount of the ground dry herb compounded, and in boiling water for ten minutes, steeped another 10.

My experience of placing a few drops of tincture under my tongue for 60-seconds, then swallowing 3-ounces of water on a empty stomach ENDED my week long balance issue, that has never returned.

COVID in any <-[vector]-> form is LONG. It is a opportunistic-man-made-GOF BWFA with opportunistic and possible tech-no activation.

We’re over a century past 1918. Trust The INTENT of Science beyond what you thought you knew about it.

The historical use is presented as best I can recall from documents by a University of Nevada medical school IIRC.

My experience is personal. It is not medical advice. It’s a testimonial. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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rondaben

Veteran Member
What points of that are false?
The entirety of the reimbursement argument. First, payment isn't uniform. You are talking medicaid/medicare reimbursement. It is usually differerent with commercial insurance.

Next, there is a central diagnosis. For covid there were additional supplemental payments based on the severity and complexity of the case. It makes sense that this would be higher when comparing a severe case of influenza vs. a severe case of influenza. The average cost of treating a severe case of each was ~52k higher for treating covid than influenza.

Finally there is a misunderstanding of hospital finance. Inpatient treatment is almost always a loss for a hospital because of the additional cost of staffing, materials, and DME. The money is in outpatient managment and why you see everything trying to be managed on an outpatient basis.

If you think anyone in healthcare--at lease the providing of care part of it--made out like a bandit you are mistaken. unless you want to count rediculous amounts of overtime that was paid out.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
I have run tons of articles (some in the mainstream media) that the Federal Government would pay up to 12,000 dollars in Federal funding for treating (or some treatments) COVID-19 patients. So yes, you don't have to believe in any conspiracy to see how cash-strapped, failing hospitals might be encouraged to diagnose nearly everyone they can with COVID-19.

Not only that, but I remember both the news and people here discussing how because the funding was to treat these patients, patients who died were being tested and recorded as "Died of COVID" (later changed to WITH COVID). But that was changed because the mainstream news got ahold of the records of the guy who was killed when decapitated in a motorcycle accident, and he was listed on the death certificate as "Died of COVID-19). The hospital got extra cash to cover his "treatment." The family was not amused, and I gathered and demanded an investigation.

I always hear stories like this from friends and family in the US. The federal government also only paid for treatments like reservoirs. Hundreds of people (many of whom have written about their experience) were not only not treated with much of anything until they were sick enough for the hospital. However, the Federal Government would pay for some of their medical care if the hospital only provided the approved treatments. One of which had such bad results during the original drug trials that it was not a best seller.

Otherwise, RoundtheBend, I am going to suspect that at the very least, like many medical people, you are too busy to have followed this story, so you might want to look at the long thread and do some of your own checking.

These things did happen. I'm sure there are many links to articles on the long COVID thread. If you have other information that contradicts this that is verified; I'd be interested to see it.
How far do you think 12k gets you for 15 days on a vent; PEG tube, tracheostomy, 6-12 months of rehab, medications and 1:1 nursing?

Not far.

Another episode of "I did my own research".
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Can someone who knows elaborate on that?

What is white and where,
and what other associated side effects or symptoms?
White is the appearance on CXR. Normal air filled spaces like the lungs are black on CXR. "white out" means the lungs are filled with fluid and/or inflammation. Not related but as an example:

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The lung on the patient's right (your left) shows a clear, black outline of the lung. There are some infiltrates towards the middle. The patient's left side is "whited out" and filled with fluid, mucus, junk--but not air.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Well, I got good news that most people don't wanna hear.
The spike protein in Covid attaches to NICOTINE RECEPTER cells all over your body.
If you are wearing a nicotine patch ( or smoking )
the nicotine will evict the spike Covid protein from the nicotine receptor cells, as it PREFERS nicotine.
Now you know, do with it what you will.
Chew the nicorete??
I do.
 

ambereyes

Veteran Member
Only thing going around here is some kind of intestinal bug. Friend is kindergarten teacher, just imagine sudden bouts of diarrhea in a group of little ones!



As to covid, never got it, only a couple in my large family did. Kinda like a light flu. We were all exposed to covid multiple times. Maybe genetics, who knows.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
I highly recommend having mullein tea in your cabinet. I had read about this before covid and now keep it on hand (Amazon) It offers great lung support.

Curious to hear what others recommend.

I’m waiting on anyone’s experience or knowledge of the white spot syndrome.

Details please, then perhaps I can add to the experience pool.
 

sssarawolf

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Remember what old Gatey boy said, depopulation through Vaccination. Now we have all kinds of off shoots of this thing, besides what the shot has done to folks.
 
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