LEGAL Hanging of 'Truck Nuts' Grows into a Free Speech Debate

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Hanging of 'Truck Nuts' Grows into a Free Speech Debate

By Elizabeth Robichaux Brown

Published August 02, 2011 | FoxNews.com

'Don't touch my junk,' is taking on new meaning.

"Truck nuts," fake bull testicles made of plastic or metal that drivers hang on the back of their pickups to make a truck look more manly, have been around for years. Some find them funny, while others find them offensive, prompting at least three states to try to ban them -- unsuccessfully.

But a recent case in South Carolina is fueling debate over whether these ornaments violate a state's indecency laws and if attempting to regulate them infringes on freedom of speech.

On July 5, Virginia Tice, 65, from Bonneau, S.C. pulled her pickup truck into a local gas station with red, fake testicles dangling from the trailer hitch. The town's police chief, Franco Fuda, pulled up and asked her to remove the plastic testicles.

When she refused, he wrote her a $445 ticket saying that she violated South Carolina’s obscene bumper sticker law.

The South Carolina code of laws reads, “a sticker, decal, emblem, or device is indecent … in a patently offensive way, as determined by contemporary community standards, sexual acts, excretory functions, or parts of the human body.”

Tice lawyered up and said that she was preparing to challenge Fuda in court. But before she could ask for a jury trial, Fuda, in a rare move, beat her to it.

Fuda says he is pushing for a jury trial and hopes the outcome will clarify the state’s obscenity laws, leaving no room for misinterpretation.

“The law is very clear, and I am prepared to take it all the way,” Fuda told FoxNews.com.

Scott Bischoff, Tice’s lawyer, says his client is not bowing down because “this whole thing was caused by the arresting officer, who is arbitrarily interpreting a statute incorrectly.”

Bischoff will argue whether these large, red, plastic testicles are “really an accurate depiction of a human body part.”

“He is nuts,” says Jay Bender, a lawyer and professor at the University of South Carolina, referring to Fuda and his interpretation of the law. Bender says although tasteless and stupid, they are not illegal, and adds, “Chief Fuda is abusing his arrest powers.” He says the statute is very clear about what material is obscene and “it doesn’t have anything to do with artificial bull testicles.”

David Hudson, a First Amendment attorney and scholar, says laws banning these types of decals, emblems or bumper stickers are problematic, but often someone just hasn’t challenged them.

Hudson believes Tice and her lawyer can make a good case the South Carolina law is “unconstitutionally vague and unconstitutionally board, and it violates the First Amendment.”

In the past, lawmakers in Tennessee, Virginia, Maryland and Florida have proposed legislation to ban these types of decals and other explicit bumper stickers.

Hudson detailed many cases where law enforcement officials cited individuals for the content of their bumper stickers, and in the majority of those cases, a judge tossed them out because “the First Amendment protects a great deal of offensive expression.”

Hudson also cites the Supreme Court’s opinion that “the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.”

Even though the attempts to ban "truck nuts" have been unsuccessful, customers are still leery about their legality.

Trick Trucks, a truck accessory chain, has been selling them for years and has had customers question whether they are illegal. Keith Dillard says sales at his Lanham, Md., store are hit and miss, but “when people talk about outlawing or banning them, they come in to buy them up.”

“I can’t see a piece of plastic being offensive, it’s not like you can’t see that along the road, there are farms all over,” says Ron Pelletier, assistant manager of the Trick Trucks in Waldof, Md. Both say most people buy them as gag gifts.

Neither side in Bonneau, S.C., is laughing over this legal mess, but they do agree the public interest in the case is shocking. Fuda said that he’s been getting a lot of feedback from people, including one Florida woman who stopped by the police station to say she was glad he wrote the ticket, while another man called to ask, “if we didn’t have anything better to do?”

“We concur with the sentiments of people in our community and across the nation that this whole thing is a big waste of time, but it was all started by Chief Fuda,” says Bischoff.

The case goes to trial next month.
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rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
What about the poor bulls in the pasture? I wonder if I can sell the government bull pants?
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
There is a LOT of EQUALLY TASTELESS stuff in a Spencer store at your local mall...

TASTELESS and GROSS are not legally obscene.
 

RVM45

Senior Member
If we allow the Government to outlaw Brass Balls on our Trucks--and honestly, l never had the slightest urge to buy any, till the Gubbmint started trying to forbade them.....

How much longer will it be, until the Laws start stopping grown men on the street, and telling them to tuck in their shirts, or shave? :ecrz:

If I'd have wanted to live under a Dictatorship--I'd find one and move there.

Pretty soon, I won't have to bother moving.

Oh, and about that compensation thing--

IF I wasn't buying Faux Bull Testicles just to Freak the Squares--I would be gently trying to build up the Self Esteem of my Truck. He's the one who came from the factory without any. (Don't tell him though--he doesn't seem to mind.)

.....RVM45 :cool::sht::cool:
 

mbabulldog

Inactive
So the gov't has decided that FAKE testicles hanging from a truck are offensive/illegal?

What about the FAKE breasts hanging from all the shallow women out there? Is that now illegal/offensive?

Good lord, doesn't TPTB have ANYTHING better to do?
 

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
Low level, low middle class at the best. Crude ,offensive.


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gelatinous

Eyes WIDE Open
If the wife didn't drive our 4x4 truck I'd certainly have a pair hanging off the hitch. Her sense of humor isn't quite as "crude" as mine. But when I see them swinging off of trucks around in the liberal city I work in, I just roar with laughter. Most of them have NO sense of humor. They're to sophisticated, too intelligent, and would never stoop to gutter humor unless it was about a conservative.
 

TeapotTempest

Turbulent Teakettle
Of course, being at the pinnacle of both taste and class demands that one have not just truck nuts, but CHROMED truck nuts.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
I always thought they were stupid and assumed the owner was overcompensating...

My thoughts also, that's why you won't see them hanging from my trucks hitch. This is freedom of expression though, so, hands off that junk! We have enough trouble with the TSA handling junk! Wonder if anyone has ever put them in their pants in the TSA line?
 

Irish

Veteran Member
Obviously most of you haven't been around rodeo folks or bull riders.......

Just sayin'...........
 

mbabulldog

Inactive
It's ok to afix a fixed dog with "neuticals" and have them hanging out there for everyone to see, but heaven forbid your truck have nuts!
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
Let's see... elder lady (unlikely protagonist for this 'form' of free-speechery)...
Bright Red pseudo testicle bag In-Your-Face to hapless motorists who find themselves behind of her vehicle,
refusal merely to remove 'em when asked...

Yeppers, another nail in the Free-Speech coffin.

Useful Idiots do so abound.

bleh

She is so fond of pseudo bull-bags, she can hang 'em around her house, or off her rear-view mirror.

Seriously: Free Speech?

What, exactly, is the 'speech' she is meaning to convey upon others, here?

I mean, is there an actual message or something?
 

hypoluxo

Veteran Lurker
So, I can strap a 10" dildo to my trailer hitch? I don't find a penis any more or less offensive than testicles. Devil's advocate here.
 

mbabulldog

Inactive
It would be kind of funny to have a pro-Tea Party bumper sticker hanging right above the bulls balls...Tea baggers and all...

I crack myself up sometimes....
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
It would be kind of funny to have a pro-Tea Party bumper sticker hanging right above the bulls balls...Tea baggers and all...

I crack myself up sometimes....

Well, it would be entirely in keeping with the bull-bag 'statement', although only sewer-minds would likely 'get' the juxtaposition.

ETA: Ya need to add a 2nd acorn to yer avatar, methinks :whistle:
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
This is not important, let them get on with it, it will not change the world

Well, in the land of rapidly-shrinking 'rights' and freedoms, I suspect you are mistaken.

If this moronic "issue" results in legislation... yanno it shall be broadly-worded. :(
 

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
So, I can strap a 10" dildo to my trailer hitch? I don't find a penis any more or less offensive than testicles. Devil's advocate here.


There ya go, another possible money making idea, we already have several different rubber/plastic ornaments to install over the hitch ball to protect it or protect you from it when you run into it in the dark, why not a penis? I think we also need 'truck boobs', that way you can tell people what sex you see your vehicle as . . and YES, here in Cowboy country there are a lot of trucks sporting them . . goes with the territory . . bull riders . . so, bulls balls . . yep



NP
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
If animal testicles are offensive, what are we going to do about all the animals walking around with them? Mandatory castration for the males of every species?
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
If animal testicles are offensive, what are we going to do about all the animals walking around with them?
Mandatory castration for the males of every species?

Animal testicles ought to be represented in every schoolchilds books, yes?

They presently aren't. Not even (for the most part) are anuses.

Children are free to gaze at ACTUAL testicles, in barnyard or pet context.

...even in pedophiliac or incestual context,
though such contexts might make the child un-comfortable.

Yes, we all do have sexual and scatalogical parts, but 'polite society' averts eyes.

Are we to damn 'polite' society, by pasting sexual parts on folkses windshields?

When the child asks: "What is that, hanging off the (vehicle) in front of us?"

Seriously, you regressed 'adults'. Keep it a Little Bit less In-Your-Face, would ya?

Seriously.

Yes, honestly... sometimes CHILDREN view those Red-Hot bull-bags.

YOU want to explain 'em why YOU have some deep need to place 'em there?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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So, I can strap a 10" dildo to my trailer hitch? I don't find a penis any more or less offensive than testicles. Devil's advocate here.

You beat me to it. But I'd hand a 14" "John Holmes" latex penis on it. I mean, WTH, right? Free speech and all.

It would be kind of funny to have a pro-Tea Party bumper sticker hanging right above the bulls balls...Tea baggers and all...

I crack myself up sometimes....

mba - SPANK!!! :groucho:
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
The South Carolina code of laws reads, “a sticker, decal, emblem, or device is indecent … in a patently offensive way, as determined by contemporary community standards, sexual acts, excretory functions, or parts of the human body.”

I think the good Sheriff, lost the war on this one because the law SPECIFICALLY identifies the contraband as HUMAN body parts. No law against BULL testicles as I read it. They only appear somewhat similar, to those ignorant of the difference.

As that poorly written law reads, it would actually make the hanging of a green orange or purple plastic HUMAN SHAPED HAND from the bumper illegal.
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
I think the good Sheriff, lost the war on this one because the law SPECIFICALLY identifies the contraband as HUMAN body parts. No law against BULL testicles as I read it. They only appear somewhat similar, to those ignorant of the difference.

As that poorly written law reads, it would actually make the hanging of a green orange or purple plastic HUMAN SHAPED HAND from the bumper illegal.

SO, are you Pro- or Con- hanging Bright Red or Day-Glo- etc ball-bags fom vehicle butts?

Seriously, I think that's not such an intelligent place for a Freedom of Speech Line in the Sand.

Hang hands of any color off your tail and guess what? Not likely to have any complaints. (Unless, of course, they be offal)

Honestly.
 

timbo

Deceased
I suppose that a red vagina on the hitch is probably not possible in that town either?

Then again, how would you hang it?

Never mind, way too graphic in my imagination.
 

Kronos

Veteran Member
I suppose that a red vagina on the hitch is probably not possible in that town either?

Then again, how would you hang it?

Never mind, way too graphic in my imagination.

Hehe... yeps.

Rather close-minded of 'em, dontchya think? (not) ;)
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
Animal testicles ought to be represented in every schoolchilds books, yes?

They presently aren't. Not even (for the most part) are anuses.

Children are free to gaze at ACTUAL testicles, in barnyard or pet context.

...even in pedophiliac or incestual context,
though such contexts might make the child un-comfortable.

Yes, we all do have sexual and scatalogical parts, but 'polite society' averts eyes.

Are we to damn 'polite' society, by pasting sexual parts on folkses windshields?

When the child asks: "What is that, hanging off the (vehicle) in front of us?"

Seriously, you regressed 'adults'. Keep it a Little Bit less In-Your-Face, would ya?

Seriously.

Yes, honestly... sometimes CHILDREN view those Red-Hot bull-bags.

YOU want to explain 'em why YOU have some deep need to place 'em there?



Are you kidding me?

We are not talking about incest, pedophilia, or any other human body parts. We are talking about animal testicles. They use them to reproduce. It is not pornographic, it is nature.

No, I don't want to explain to them why I put them there, because I haven't. However, I would be happy to explain to MY child that I don't know why this or that person has placed animal testicles in or on their vehicle....and whats more I don't need to know, and neither do they. This is America. People do weird things, and as long as those weird things are not harmful to others, they are free to be as weird as they want to be. Isn't America great?

Animal testicles are not harmful to anyone, and if a child is damaged by seeing, or knowing about, animal testicles then I have to think that was one damaged child to begin with.

Jeez, it is a sad day when something like this is offensive to people. Really, get over it.
 

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
I suppose that a red vagina on the hitch is probably not possible in that town either?

Then again, how would you hang it?

Never mind, way too graphic in my imagination.

Oh it could be done with a hitch cover or a magnet.

And yeah, a giant dildo on the hitch (call it a bull or donkey dong) and that makes it ok?

I think there's a good reason for obscenity laws and testicles are sexual body parts.

I don't understand people think it's no big deal if sex organs are used as ornaments that children can see everywhere they go. Sure they see them on animals and that's natural, but we don't have to pervert it.

Mrs.Cw
 

timbo

Deceased
Somehow my post didn't make it. Try again.

They need to pull all Dodge Ram trucks off the road and get rid of the ram on the hood!
It has made the net in several places that the ram head is a perfect rendition of the female reproductive system including the vagina.

The Washington monument needs to be covered.
Could be worse I guess.
They could put two large world globes at the base.
 
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Garryowen

Deceased
It would be kind of funny to have a pro-Tea Party bumper sticker hanging right above the bulls balls...Tea baggers and all...

I crack myself up sometimes....

I rather think you will have trouble minding that combo. If you do, post a pic, unless, of course, you have to set it up yourself to find one.
 

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
Animal testicles ought to be represented in every schoolchilds books, yes?



Well ......back when I was in grade school, that's what NatGeo books were for.. lmao..



I remember back when a few friends and I had first discovered them in our 3rd grade class... lookin at them African knee knockers and snickering ..


It's like this ... a curious child is gonna seek out porn or naked pictures of things.. in some form or another at some point .. whether we like it or not .. and whether it is available in a health-class book or a Nat Geo mag , as in my story above ...


Don't you know......... In EVERY wooded area , there just happens to be a porn stash of playboys mysteriously left in a hidden cache , for pubescent teens to find .....
I thought that was common knowledge.... heh

As far as animal testicles, it's NOT that bigga deal .. Not really an issue.. It's a part of life... and seen by everyone (yes, including kids)
... in their everyday life... and no-one makes a big deal out of it and turns it into an issue .. (except maybe those who seem to WANT to be offended, and seek things out to be offended by)

As far as a few posts talking about some boobies , a dildo or penis of some sorts mounted on a vehicle... BIG BIG difference than a pair of red plastic balls .. both in connotation and presentation .. lol At least in my opinion ..
Now if they were flesh colored, wrinkley and had hair on them , THEN , we would have a problem... lmao

To me , a pair of fake colored balls are certainly less offensive than a huge erect schlong.. or the pointer sisters attatched as a hood ornament ... but again, that's just my opinion ..




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Kronos

Veteran Member
Are you kidding me?

We are not talking about incest, pedophilia, or any other human body parts.

We are talking about animal testicles.

They use them to reproduce.

It is not pornographic, it is nature.

<snip>

You are serious, here?

No, we are not talking about animal testicles...
we are talking about pseudo scrotums coloured brightly and hanging on vehicle rears.

They don't come with tags saying: ANIMAL TESTICLES.

They are just ho-ho-ho suggestive virtual scrotums,
for all and sundry to get a huge laff off of (or be puzzled, offended by).

Kinda like using the F-word every 3 seconds or so.

About right?

Or is that some personal-identity thang, kinda like being flamboyantly gay? Yanno, for the 'shock and offense' value?
 

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
Don't people EAT bull balls? Rocky Mountain Oysters or something or another?

When at the grocery , how do you explain that one to your child? lol

"Oh Timmy , those are bull testicles.... and they are what's for dinner" yum yum ..
hehe
 
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