Damned bastards! They have had human cases since early April & poultry outbreaks. The news has been leaked although ProMed is desperately seeking confirmation. Article first, then comments:
http://www.promedmail.org/pls/prome..._BACK_PAGE,F2400_P1001_PUB_MAIL_ID:1000,29040
***AVIAN INFLUENZA, HUMAN - CHINA: SUSPECTED, REQUEST
FOR INFORMATION
Date: 25 May 2005
From: ProMED-mail <promed@promedmail.org>
Source: Boxun.com, Mon 23 May 2005 [translated from Chinese,
edited]
<http://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/china/2005/05/200505232206.
shtml>
Severe bird flu causes several human deaths, officials begin disease control measures
------------------------------------
Recently, many people died of avian influenza in Qinghai province. The affected localities reveal that, as of early April 2005, there have been several deaths of migratory birds. Because of lack of reporting, the news has not traveled widely. Toward the end of April 2005, cases of human infection started to emerge. After 1 May 2005, some tourists who visited the areas were severely affected, and 6 of them died.
During the month of April 2005, a large-scale dissemination of the infection took place involving both humans and domesticated animals. The affected area is vast but sparsely populated. Thus, the problem of large-scale of infection involving both humans and domesticated animals is relatively unnoticeable. The feral birds
migrate freely and so expand the area of transmission. The Chinese authorities have admitted the outbreaks and started to seal off the affected area.
Because of this, Mrs. Yi Wu (Chinese Minister of Health) has cut short her visit to Japan and returned home. According to the local news in the affected locality, the number of human casualties is higher than 6.
The deceased persons are all foreign tourists (i.e. not local residents): 2 (a man and a woman) from Chengdu, and one man from Chongqing, Sichuang province. It is unknown from where the remaining casualties come.
The information was provided by someone who has visited the area
of the outbreaks.
--
ProMED-mail
<promed@promedmail.org>
[This unofficial information needs substantiation; any available
information will be very much appreciated. - Mod.AS]***
Okay first, nice big round of cleansing breaths - although I'l admit to hurling a few minutes after reading this. The news has YET TO BE CONFIRMED. But I trust China the way I'd trust a hundry three year old in front of a plate full of cookies fresh from the oven. ProMed will post anonymous reports but usually only if they have reason to believe they may have merit. They don't often have to issue retractions.
The Minister of health has been brought back expeditiously - that alone is reason to be concerned.
Tourists: it's unclear what is meant. One part states that it's simply Chinese not from that area but other parts of that item aren't quite as clear. The area is not well populated but this may easily have been seeded outside the area. I wonder, poultry to human transmission has not yet proven efficient. The hemagglutinen is changing but that's the case in the North Vietnamese evolving subtype - not ther south. Not a clue what they might be dealing with in China. We need to find out NOW. I suspect the WHO is having kittens.
Okay, transmission not efficient but at least 6 dead & an unknown # of people sick, some very sick & some tourists with, (I'm assuming), not exactly cheek by jowl contact with poultry or migratory waterfowl. That MAY indicate a subtype that is more easily transmitted.
I must stress & stress again, I don't KNOW any of this - I'm guessing based on what I know of flu. The report may be a flat out lie sent to ProMed by someone with malicious intent. I'm afraid I highly doubt that though. ProMed jealously guards it's credibility.
So I don't know what this is, what's going on. I wish to Gawd, I had time to do the digging I feel I need to do but I'm moving on Monday, working tonight & tomorrow & the timing couldn't have been worse. I'll do what I can but for now would highly recommend three things.
1) Don't panic.
2) Find all the info you can & TRY for CONFIRMED info, bearin in mind we're dealing with China.
3) Get your N-95 masks, nitrile or latex gloves & bleach NOW & get ready to top up preps.
This could be ther start of First Wave pandemic. The timing is chillingly, eerily similar to 1918.
http://www.promedmail.org/pls/prome..._BACK_PAGE,F2400_P1001_PUB_MAIL_ID:1000,29040
***AVIAN INFLUENZA, HUMAN - CHINA: SUSPECTED, REQUEST
FOR INFORMATION
Date: 25 May 2005
From: ProMED-mail <promed@promedmail.org>
Source: Boxun.com, Mon 23 May 2005 [translated from Chinese,
edited]
<http://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/china/2005/05/200505232206.
shtml>
Severe bird flu causes several human deaths, officials begin disease control measures
------------------------------------
Recently, many people died of avian influenza in Qinghai province. The affected localities reveal that, as of early April 2005, there have been several deaths of migratory birds. Because of lack of reporting, the news has not traveled widely. Toward the end of April 2005, cases of human infection started to emerge. After 1 May 2005, some tourists who visited the areas were severely affected, and 6 of them died.
During the month of April 2005, a large-scale dissemination of the infection took place involving both humans and domesticated animals. The affected area is vast but sparsely populated. Thus, the problem of large-scale of infection involving both humans and domesticated animals is relatively unnoticeable. The feral birds
migrate freely and so expand the area of transmission. The Chinese authorities have admitted the outbreaks and started to seal off the affected area.
Because of this, Mrs. Yi Wu (Chinese Minister of Health) has cut short her visit to Japan and returned home. According to the local news in the affected locality, the number of human casualties is higher than 6.
The deceased persons are all foreign tourists (i.e. not local residents): 2 (a man and a woman) from Chengdu, and one man from Chongqing, Sichuang province. It is unknown from where the remaining casualties come.
The information was provided by someone who has visited the area
of the outbreaks.
--
ProMED-mail
<promed@promedmail.org>
[This unofficial information needs substantiation; any available
information will be very much appreciated. - Mod.AS]***
Okay first, nice big round of cleansing breaths - although I'l admit to hurling a few minutes after reading this. The news has YET TO BE CONFIRMED. But I trust China the way I'd trust a hundry three year old in front of a plate full of cookies fresh from the oven. ProMed will post anonymous reports but usually only if they have reason to believe they may have merit. They don't often have to issue retractions.
The Minister of health has been brought back expeditiously - that alone is reason to be concerned.
Tourists: it's unclear what is meant. One part states that it's simply Chinese not from that area but other parts of that item aren't quite as clear. The area is not well populated but this may easily have been seeded outside the area. I wonder, poultry to human transmission has not yet proven efficient. The hemagglutinen is changing but that's the case in the North Vietnamese evolving subtype - not ther south. Not a clue what they might be dealing with in China. We need to find out NOW. I suspect the WHO is having kittens.
Okay, transmission not efficient but at least 6 dead & an unknown # of people sick, some very sick & some tourists with, (I'm assuming), not exactly cheek by jowl contact with poultry or migratory waterfowl. That MAY indicate a subtype that is more easily transmitted.
I must stress & stress again, I don't KNOW any of this - I'm guessing based on what I know of flu. The report may be a flat out lie sent to ProMed by someone with malicious intent. I'm afraid I highly doubt that though. ProMed jealously guards it's credibility.
So I don't know what this is, what's going on. I wish to Gawd, I had time to do the digging I feel I need to do but I'm moving on Monday, working tonight & tomorrow & the timing couldn't have been worse. I'll do what I can but for now would highly recommend three things.
1) Don't panic.
2) Find all the info you can & TRY for CONFIRMED info, bearin in mind we're dealing with China.
3) Get your N-95 masks, nitrile or latex gloves & bleach NOW & get ready to top up preps.
This could be ther start of First Wave pandemic. The timing is chillingly, eerily similar to 1918.