God's Party?

[Ragnarok]

God's Party?

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Posted: July 14, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


It's time for a major reality check: The GOP doesn't walk on water, nor has it been anointed by God as His personal ambassador to Washington, D.C.

Today, many people feel the Republican Party is at least as corrupt as the Democratic Party. There are good reasons why large numbers of conservatives are leaving the Republican Party. Indeed, why any religious conservatives still continue to support the GOP is difficult to comprehend, since the GOP not only supports the same causes as Democrats, they also lie about what they really stand for.

I can hear the howls of protest even as I write this, but just so you know where I'm coming from, I twice was an elected member of a large Republican county central committee. Nobody wanted to see the Republican Party succeed more than I did.

But the facts are clear: The GOP only pretends to support conservative values. Since Bush has been in office and the Republicans have controlled the House and Senate, here are just a few of the most egregious things that God's Party has done for America:



continued to support the United Nations, which seeks control over America.

continued to allow the Internal Revenue Service to destroy the lives of U.S. citizens.

continued to allow judges to use the U.S. Constitution as toilet paper.

continued the cover up of the attack on TWA Flight 800.

continued the cover-up of the Oklahoma City bombing.

continued to pay lip service to protecting U.S. borders, while actually inviting more illegal immigration.

Why are religious conservatives supporting this insanity? Let's be real: There is no longer any substantial difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. The GOP now even actively supports pro-homosexual and pro-abortion politicians. Enough is enough!

Religious conservatives comprise some 30 to 40 percent of the Republican Party. Rather than supporting spineless, highly compromised GOP phonies, why not work for something worthwhile such as the Constitution Party's political platform?

For me, the bottom line is this: I do not want to stand before God one day and tell Him I enabled evil to continue unchecked because I was afraid to do the right thing and, consequently, caved in to what was expedient. No matter what happens, God is still sovereign, but at least I can say I stood against the evil now engulfing the United States. Will you be able to say that?



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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

– Edmund Burke



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Conviction is worthless unless it is converted into conduct.

– Thomas Carlyle



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There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.

– Elie Wiesel



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The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people.

– Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis



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A little rebellion now and then is a good thing.

– Thomas Jefferson



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The right to revolt has sources deep in our history.

– Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas



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Noncooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with good.

– Gandhi



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It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.

– U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds



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Not voting is just as bad as voting for evil men because it allows evil to succeed by default. Take a stand with people who support what you really support. Stop cowering and merely complaining about America's pending demise and act in such a way as to truly make a difference.

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[CygnusXI]

True.

The Republicans slap God in the face, the Democrats kick him in the nuts.

(And 3rd parties are somewhere in between).

So? Go with the slap and hope for the best.

 

[milkydoo]

Our government is not a god fearing, Christian government, period. Doesn't matter which major party is at the wheel. They both perpetuate the *same* system. Those who say the Republicans are less evil than the Dem's are simply ignoring much of the facts or just don't understand how the system works.

Bush is actively working to destroy this nation, via destruction of rights and open borders. This is not an honest mistake. This is not political ping pong. This is not Christian behavior. It is open corruption supported by the uncaring masses. When the people support corruption, then corruption they will have.

 

[CygnusXI]

Those who say the Republicans are less evil than the Dem's are simply ignoring much of the facts or just don't understand how the system works.

I beg to differ.

Sure, the parties both are corrupt to degrees, and both have international/globalist agendas, but party platforms do draw distinctions. Two obvious ones I can give you right of the top of my head are abortion, and homosexual issues.

If you don't think that supporting, and fighting for the "rights" of women to kill fetus' up to the point of birth, and also fighting just as hard for homosexual "rights" is more evil than opposing such things-- well then, you worship a god I don't.

Yes. The dems are more evil.
I'm not saying Reps are holy-- by no means, but if there were a 1-10 scale (one being Satan) dems would be a lower number than reps, based on platforms and idealology using Biblical scripture as the litmus.

It may be that the reps are a 3 and dems are a 2, but still-- dems are more evil.
Am I splitting hairs? Maybe... But when I get to the pearly gates and am asked why I supported leaders that endorsed killing and abominations unto the Lord, I'll take those hairs real seriously. If the scales of your deeds are balanced-- it only takes a feather to tip them.

 

[m.anderson]

Ah the Republicans,may I say Bush's, views on abortion and homsexuals.
I to voted for him because he said that he would do away with abortion,so far nothing.Oh yes he did throw us a bone last year by doing away with partialbirth
abortion,but before the ink was dry federal judges shot it down,and from what I can find he has done nothing more.
All this from a man who thinks islam is a religion of peace and ahlla is the same god as the one found in the Bible.

PS I am still looking for a quote from Bush where he even mentions the name of
Jesus Christ,oh that's right,one of his aids was asked about that,and the reply was he doesn't mention Jesus by name beause doesn't want to offened those of other religions




First lady-to-be Laura Bush talks with fourth-grade students at Seaton Elementary School in Washington during a visit. (Victoria Arocho/AP Photo) Laura Bush Speaks
Out on Abortion
First Lady-To-Be Says 'No'
to Overturning Roe vs. Wade



W A S H I N G T O N, Jan. 19 — On the eve of her move to the White House, first lady-in-waiting Laura Bush walked into a political minefield by saying the law legalizing abortion should not be overturned.




Asked on NBC's Today show if Roe vs. Wade, the Supreme Court's 1973 decision that recognized a woman's right to legalized abortion, should be overturned, Mrs. Bush said flatly, "No. I don't think it should be overturned."
Mrs. Bush said she favors measures that reduce the need for abortion, including abstinence education for young people "everywhere."

"I think that we should do what we can … to try to reduce the number of abortions in a lot of ways, and that is by talking about responsibility with girls and boys, by teaching abstinence, having abstinence classes everywhere in schools and in churches and in Sunday school," Mrs. Bush said in the Thursday interview. "I think there are a lot of ways we can reduce the number of abortions and I agree with my husband in that — on that issue."

President-elect Bush opposes abortion but has said he doesn't believe the nation is ready for Roe vs. Wade to be reversed. But asked Thursday in an interview with FOX News if he would rule out supporting a challenge to the ruling, Bush answered: "Not at all. We'd just have to see."

"I campaigned as a pro-life candidate," Bush also said. "I understand people disagree on this issue, but I think that it is very important for us to be conscious of the value of life."

The president-elect has said repeatedly that his judicial appointments would not be required to meet a "litmus test" on the abortion issue, but he has vowed to appoint only "strict constructionist" judges to the nation's highest court, citing conservatives Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas as model justices.

"I am going to put judges on the bench who will strictly interpret the Constitution," he said Thursday.

The incoming chief executive also supports a ban on late-term abortions and would require doctors to notify parents before performing abortions on teenagers.

'Pro-Lifers' Call Comments 'Upsetting'

Mrs. Bush's remarks Thursday — her most explicit to date on the controversial issue — caught leading members of the anti-abortion rights community off-guard, leading many to now question her husband's commitment to their cause.

"[Mrs. Bush's statement] is not very helpful," said Nellie Gray, president of the March for Life Fund. "I would have thought that if she didn't want to have Roe vs. Wade overturned, she would have made it clear somewhere along the way on the campaign trail."

"It would have been very helpful if … she would have said she would not join in being a truly pro-life advocate," Gray added.

"Millions of pro-life people were led to believe … that George Bush was more pro-life than he said he was," said Colleen Parro of the Republican National Coalition for Life. "The fact that Mrs. Bush spoke her mind … should be upsetting to them — to everybody who supported George Bush thinking that he was pro-life."

Bush transition spokesman Ari Fleischer declined to comment on Mrs. Bush's remarks.

"I don't discuss the personal views of the president's family," he said at a news conference in Washington this afternoon.

Ashcroft Remarks Also at Issue

The man Bush has tapped to head up the Justice Department, former Missouri Sen. John Ashcroft, is a staunch opponent of abortion. But under intense questioning from Democrats at his Senate confirmation hearings this week, the attorney general-designate promised to enforce Roe vs. Wade, calling it "settled law."

"I believe Roe vs. Wade … was wrongly decided," Ashcroft said Tuesday in his testimony the Senate Judiciary Committee. "I am personally opposed to abortion. But … I well understand that the role of attorney general is to enforce the law as it is, not as I would have it."

Bush's nomination of the staunchly conservative Ashcroft was viewed as a victory for anti-abortion rights advocates, but his recent comments, like Mrs. Bush's, are giving some of them pause.

"If the sentiment is that abortion is a settled law of the land and should remain so and it is no big deal … I absolutely expect [pro-life leaders] to take him on," said one prominent social conservative who asked not to be named. "At some point pro-life Americans will want to see pro-life things happening."

"People are expecting something to happen on Roe," the conservative leader added. "It will not go quietly into that good night, so to speak."


ABCNEWS' Gayle Tzemach contributed to this report.

And regarding the Republicans (Bush) on homosexuals


The World's Largest Organization With a Primary, Affirming
Ministry To Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and Transgender Persons
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U.S. President Bush Congratulates
Predominantly Gay MCC Church On 35th Anniversary

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Letter arrives during
Bush-endorsed anti-Gay "Marriage Protection Week"
(left to right)
MCC Founder/Moderator
Rev. Elder Troy Perry and
Rev. Neil Thomas, Pastor
MCC Los Angeles

West Hollywood, California -- Call it a mixed-message at best. Or maybe politics at worst. During the same week that U.S. President George W. Bush endorsed the anti-gay Marriage Protection Week, he sent enthusiastic 35th anniversary congratulations to the predominantly gay and lesbian Metropolitan Community Churches, a group that performs more than 6000 same-sex weddings annually.

Metropolitan Community Churches is one of the world's largest gay organizations, and was founded by openly gay Rev. Dr. Troy D. Perry in 1968. Today, MCC provides almost 300 local churches for its 43,000 members and adherents in 22 countries.

In his letter dated October 14, 2003, to MCC Los Angeles, the founding congregation of Metropolitan Community Churches, President Bush wrote, "By encouraging the celebration of faith and sharing of God's love and boundless mercy, churches like yours put hope in people's hearts and a sense of purpose in their lives. This milestone provides an opportunity to reflect on your years of service and to rejoice in God's faithfulness to your congregation.”

The letter was written during the anti-gay "Marriage Protection Week," an effort endorsed by President Bush and organized by such Religious Right leaders as Jerry Falwell, Dr. James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention and the American Family Association to deny equality under the law to gays and lesbians. In his proclamation endorsing "Marriage Protection Week," President Bush wrote, "Marriage is a sacred institution, and its protection is essential to the continued strength of our society. Marriage Protection Week provides an opportunity to focus our efforts on preserving the sanctity of marriage and on building strong and healthy marriages in America."

Rev. Troy Perry, human rights activist and Founder of Metropolitan Community Churches, expressed alarm at President Bush's proclamation in support of “Marriage Protection Week,” which was designed "to preserve the sacred institution of marriage” by denying the right to marry to gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people.

Of President Bush's proclamation, Perry said, "President Bush was wrong in his endorsement of a week dedicated to denying equal rights to gays and lesbians. And while we appreciate the sentiments he expressed on MCC's anniversary, the President has sent a very mixed message that makes his effusive praise of MCC's 35th anniversary all the more puzzling."

President Bush's letter to MCC Los Angeles left Rev. Neil Thomas, senior pastor of Metropolitan Community Church of Los Angeles, baffled.

“How does one denounce the right of gays and lesbians to marry in their churches and suggest they are incapable of having healthy marriages in one moment, and in the next rejoice in God's faithfulness to a gay and lesbian congregation that performs such same-sex marriages?” Rev. Thomas asked. (END)

 

[lars]

Hey, form a Christian Party. See if the infighting is any less than what you've got now. See if Gary North, Jerry Falwell and Rev Moon can agree on squat.

 

[Libertarian]

The GOP for all they try ar not the Hezbolah (party of God). They try hard enough but they just haven't gotten the killing in God's name down yet. Clinton did the reverse better at Mt. Carmel.

 

[Ragnarok]

See if Gary North, Jerry Falwell and Rev Moon can agree on squat.

Hardly, a "christian" party...

 

[Bearded Weirdo]

Anybody who ever thought the Republicans, the Democrats, the Libertarians, the Socialists, the Constitution Party, or any other political party was God's Party, puts way too much faith in man.

That being said, I vote for the candidate I agree with the most couple with who I belileve would do the best job. The last election I voted for 5 Republicans, 3 Democrats and 2 Libertarians. Lest you think I voted only Republicans for the major races, I voted for a Libertarian for Governor, and a Democrat for U.S. Congressman.

 

[OddOne]

Given that Jesus said clearly that his Kingdom was no part of this "world," and given his efforts to avoid being given poilitical power, one could conclude that the only party God may approve of is none of them, as in total political neutrality. It's not like humans have this self-governance thing down anyway, and it's not like human governments aren't going to be replaced by that Kingdom in the rapidly nearing future.

In short, if you're serious about being a Christian why are you putting your hope in man anyway? God will see to it the right people are where He wants them to be regardless of trivialties like voting (case in point: Dubya's win over Gore in 2000... imagine Gore as prez during the terrorist attacks...) so voting is already in the greater scheme of things irrelevant.

But, nobody wants to hear this kind of viewpoint... :shrug:

oO

 

[nanna]

one could conclude that the only party God may approve of is none of them, as in total political neutrality

Thank you, OddOne



nanna

 

[milkydoo]

Given that Jesus said clearly that his Kingdom was no part of this "world," and given his efforts to avoid being given poilitical power, one could conclude that the only party God may approve of is none of them, as in total political neutrality. It's not like humans have this self-governance thing down anyway, and it's not like human governments aren't going to be replaced by that Kingdom in the rapidly nearing future.

In short, if you're serious about being a Christian why are you putting your hope in man anyway? God will see to it the right people are where He wants them to be regardless of trivialties like voting (case in point: Dubya's win over Gore in 2000... imagine Gore as prez during the terrorist attacks...) so voting is already in the greater scheme of things irrelevant.

But, nobody wants to hear this kind of viewpoint... :shrug:

oO

This is essentially what my church taught when I was growing up. No one in my church voted, was politically active or joined the military; it was frowned upon, as we believed that God would take care of the meat and potatos so that we could focus on cleaning up our own lives and helping others on an individual level.

If God is waiting for his people to install a true Christian president before he sends his son back, he's going to be waiting a few million years. Besides, while there are many tales of the anti-Christ, I don't recall any stories of Christian leaders of powerful nations making way for the return of Christ.

 

[Charlie]

Given that Jesus said clearly that his Kingdom was no part of this "world," and given his efforts to avoid being given poilitical power, one could conclude that the only party God may approve of is none of them, as in total political neutrality. It's not like humans have this self-governance thing down anyway, and it's not like human governments aren't going to be replaced by that Kingdom in the rapidly nearing future.

In short, if you're serious about being a Christian why are you putting your hope in man anyway? God will see to it the right people are where He wants them to be regardless of trivialties like voting (case in point: Dubya's win over Gore in 2000... imagine Gore as prez during the terrorist attacks...) so voting is already in the greater scheme of things irrelevant.

But, nobody wants to hear this kind of viewpoint... :shrug:

oO

I do OddOne