BRKG Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed
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If you watch this at the point the thick smoke is when they would have performed the crash astern. It also show that the pier it struck is next to the ship channel. This looks like a terrible accident.
winodog
The Bible is a flat earth book
jward
passin' thru
Very hard to believe that it is accidental, with all the ironic symmetry it poses to what is going on in the wider world
-and yet I've seen unbelievable, but true none the less, coincidences occur with my own eyes. Not to mention the Lord is not mocked, but has his own wicked sharp sense o' humour.
:: shrug :: I think we can be forgiven if we're all a bit jumpy and need all the i's dotted and t's crossed before we completely let go of our questions.
I'm waiting on my "ship guy" to chime in lol- particularly interested in how easily one could shut down or commendeer the electrical systems and if they had space and time to do so from the time they left till the time they hit the crash site.
ETA: what a fabulous campaign ad though: "would YOU want Biden to be the one at o' dark thirty "answering the phone" if this if it WERE an attack on American soil?"
I live close enough that I heard the crash of the bridge coming down - and it was LOUD. I thought it was a super low flying airplane at first. I took that bridge every day for work. Only other good commute options are 1 of 2 tunnels. But certain things are prohibited like propane tanks, acetylene tanks, etc. in the tunnels. So tradesman are screwed, or will have to violate the prohibitions.
That initial video is pointing down into Baltimore/the port. So the ship was leaving (heading towards the camera). That port is screwed for a while. There is a cruise ship that is home ported there -it ain't going anywhere. I think most BMWs (cars) come in thru that port as well. Lots of farm equipment leave from this port.
That initial video is pointing down into Baltimore/the port. So the ship was leaving (heading towards the camera). That port is screwed for a while. There is a cruise ship that is home ported there -it ain't going anywhere. I think most BMWs (cars) come in thru that port as well. Lots of farm equipment leave from this port.
jward
passin' thru
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
BALTIMORE BRIDGE COLLAPSE: WE CAN’T CONFIRM IF ANYONE IS STILL ALIVE IN THE WATER
Spokesperson: “Folks are stunned. I think there will be plenty of time to talk about what this bridge means for the area and commerce. But we’re just trying to save lives now, and for the foreseeable future, it’s about the Search and Rescue.”
Mayor Scott: “This is a tragedy. You could never imagine. You never thought you’d see the bridge tumble down. It’s something out of an action movie.”
Source: Baltimore Press Conference
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
BALTIMORE I-695 BRIDGE COLLAPSE: TWO RESCUED FROM WATER, AT LEAST 7 DEAD
Dive teams face increasing challenges in the cold water as the tide returns.
Authorities don’t know how many people went into the water, however their sonar systems have detected multiple submerged vehicles.
Source: Baltimore Press Conference https://x.com/MarioNawfal/st
View: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1772575636575379479?s=20
@MarioNawfal
BALTIMORE BRIDGE COLLAPSE: WE CAN’T CONFIRM IF ANYONE IS STILL ALIVE IN THE WATER
Spokesperson: “Folks are stunned. I think there will be plenty of time to talk about what this bridge means for the area and commerce. But we’re just trying to save lives now, and for the foreseeable future, it’s about the Search and Rescue.”
Mayor Scott: “This is a tragedy. You could never imagine. You never thought you’d see the bridge tumble down. It’s something out of an action movie.”
Source: Baltimore Press Conference
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
BALTIMORE I-695 BRIDGE COLLAPSE: TWO RESCUED FROM WATER, AT LEAST 7 DEAD
Dive teams face increasing challenges in the cold water as the tide returns.
Authorities don’t know how many people went into the water, however their sonar systems have detected multiple submerged vehicles.
Source: Baltimore Press Conference https://x.com/MarioNawfal/st
View: https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1772575636575379479?s=20
Lone_Hawk
Resident Spook
I just got off the phone with my son who is senior management for a large crane company in the area, loosly speaking. He says that this is a horrendous mess that will take decades to clear. Current safety rules prevent the easiest solutions. What is left of the bridge isn't strong enough to support the cranes that would be needed to even start. That means bring them in on barges, and the currents through there are a beast. Then you have to have more barges to haul off what steel you can get to. Once that is clear, you will have to send divers down to cut up and hook up. He was on the way to a meeting with his boss and will let me know what he finds out.
jward
passin' thru
I'm sorry you and yours have a personal link to the event; they're unsettling at best, without the spectre o' the other questions swirling around the tragedy.
-I hope it helps to know the nation is covering y'all in prayers this morning.
-I hope it helps to know the nation is covering y'all in prayers this morning.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is what I woke up to.
News showing a horrible collapse and news conference
winodog
The Bible is a flat earth book
jward
passin' thru
Guy Walters
@guywalters
Dashcam footage of driving over the Baltimore Bridge truly reveals the scale of what has collapsed, and collapsed so quickly and completely.
View: https://twitter.com/guywalters/status/1772568132822950003?s=20
@guywalters
Dashcam footage of driving over the Baltimore Bridge truly reveals the scale of what has collapsed, and collapsed so quickly and completely.
View: https://twitter.com/guywalters/status/1772568132822950003?s=20
jward
passin' thru
times like these I'm grateful I don't watch TV- was bad enough to wake to it on my news feed, without it inundating all the other senses too.
Lone_Hawk
Resident Spook
I have the live stream of the bridge up on my 2nd monitor and it gave me a thought. The fishing and crabbing is good there. Looking at the live feed, the whole area on the left of the main channel always has fishing boats and hundreds of markers from crab pots. There may have been fishing boats in that mess as well.
Tex88
Veteran Member
Maryland's Key Bridge collapses after being struck by a container ship
Video shows the moment the vessel plowed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, sending the structure crashing into the Patapsco River, shortly before 1.30am Eastern.
Loss of power is most likely one of the generators tripping offline. Power blinking back on is another kicking on and then it trips off. It happens. Had it happen multiple times when I was at sea. Pilot realizes what is happening and does the only thing he/she can and orders crash astern. With the wind pushing them towards the pier there is nothing more they can do but watch. It takes a long way to stop a ship that size or even maneuver it to avoid a strike.
As for the master being Ukrainian? That’s a nothing burger. There are a large number of ships officers that are Russian or Ukrainian. It is great money for them. Probably a third of the the officers we used to see on foreign vessels were Ukrainian or Russian.
When the skyway bridge collapsed in Tampa in the 70s, cars pancaked on impact falling off the bridge. There were no survivors.
A Maryland bridge partially collapsed early Tuesday morning after being hit by a cargo ship.
The Associated Press reported several vehicles had plunged into the river below and said the ship had caught fire.
➤ Live coverage: Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses, rescue operations underway
The incident brings back memories of a similar incident that happened in Florida when a freighter hit the Sunshine Skyway bridge in 1980.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay. Thirty-five people died.
Here's what is happening in Maryland this morning along with happened in Florida decades ago.
The Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed early Tuesday after it was struckby a large cargo ship, The bridge is a major span critical to East Coast shipping.
The Baltimore City Fire Department received several 911 calls around 1:30 a.m. Several vehicles were reported in the river, and the ship had caught fire.
Live updates:Baltimore's Key Bridge collapses after ship collision; rescue effort underway
"This is currently a mass casualty incident and we are searching for seven people who are in the river," Kevin Cartwright, director of communications for the Baltimore Fire Department, told Reuters.
“Our focus right now is trying to rescue and recover these people.”
Synergy Marine Corp said the Dali, Singapore-flagged container ship, collided with one of the pillars of the bridge. All its crew members, including two pilots, have been accounted for and there were no reports of any injuries.''
On May 9, 1980, the freighter Summit Venture struck the bridge that joined St. Petersburg and Bradenton during a thunderstorm, that brought wind gusts in excess of 80 mph and heavy rain. Visibility when the freighter hit one of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge was near zero, according to skywaybridgedisaster.com.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay.
Thirty-five people died.
A new bridge opened in 1987 and the approaches to the old span are now fishing piers.
Maryland bridge collapse brings back memories of Florida's Sunshine Skyway bridge disaster
Several vehicles were reported in Maryland's Patapsco River. Several vehicles and a bus tumbled into the Tampa Bay in 1980.
www.palmbeachpost.com
A Maryland bridge partially collapsed early Tuesday morning after being hit by a cargo ship.
The Associated Press reported several vehicles had plunged into the river below and said the ship had caught fire.
➤ Live coverage: Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses, rescue operations underway
The incident brings back memories of a similar incident that happened in Florida when a freighter hit the Sunshine Skyway bridge in 1980.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay. Thirty-five people died.
Here's what is happening in Maryland this morning along with happened in Florida decades ago.
The Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed early Tuesday after it was struckby a large cargo ship, The bridge is a major span critical to East Coast shipping.
The Baltimore City Fire Department received several 911 calls around 1:30 a.m. Several vehicles were reported in the river, and the ship had caught fire.
Live updates:Baltimore's Key Bridge collapses after ship collision; rescue effort underway
"This is currently a mass casualty incident and we are searching for seven people who are in the river," Kevin Cartwright, director of communications for the Baltimore Fire Department, told Reuters.
“Our focus right now is trying to rescue and recover these people.”
Synergy Marine Corp said the Dali, Singapore-flagged container ship, collided with one of the pillars of the bridge. All its crew members, including two pilots, have been accounted for and there were no reports of any injuries.''
On May 9, 1980, the freighter Summit Venture struck the bridge that joined St. Petersburg and Bradenton during a thunderstorm, that brought wind gusts in excess of 80 mph and heavy rain. Visibility when the freighter hit one of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge was near zero, according to skywaybridgedisaster.com.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay.
Thirty-five people died.
A new bridge opened in 1987 and the approaches to the old span are now fishing piers.
Maryland bridge collapse brings back memories of Florida's Sunshine Skyway bridge disaster
Several vehicles were reported in Maryland's Patapsco River. Several vehicles and a bus tumbled into the Tampa Bay in 1980.
www.palmbeachpost.com
Hfcomms
EN66iq
God does send signs from time to time but that doesn’t necessarily mean it was an intentional act on the part of the people involved if anyone is thinking that way.
helen
Panic Sex Lady
Barges hit bridges fairly often. This is a bigger version. Terrorists would likely have gone for daytime rush hour for maximum newsflash. There would be no reason to fake power outage before it hit, because terrorists claim victory. A covert act of war would target the port capabilities. Time of day would matter only for logistics. I'm not sure faking a power outage would matter. This looks like a horrible accident on the surface.
The hazmat routes in the area restrict certain types of cargo on some roads. This bridge didn't appear to restrict hazmat materials. There is one known semi in the water.
Rerouting hazmat cargo by road will be a hassle in addition to all the other issues. My coworkers in the area will be deeply affected. This is frightening.
The hazmat routes in the area restrict certain types of cargo on some roads. This bridge didn't appear to restrict hazmat materials. There is one known semi in the water.
Rerouting hazmat cargo by road will be a hassle in addition to all the other issues. My coworkers in the area will be deeply affected. This is frightening.
momma_soapmaker
Disgusted
Dear God - please be with these families.
Yep. No restrictions on it. Only when it gets windy (which is fairly often) no house trailers or EMPTY semi-trucks. But it is nice and calm today.
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
This is a great video if you can catch it in time. Times EST (see time at top of frame):
- 01:22:50: Ship comes into field of view shortly after this time (left edge of frame)
- 01:24:24: Lights go off
- 01:25:31: Lights come back on. Shortly after, first significant smoke from stack seen, then ship turns starboard.
- 01:26:38: Lights off
- 01:27:10: Lights on
- 01:28:40: Impact and collapse around this time
You can see a couple times when ship lights go off and on.
Also watch when smoke is being emitted by ship
Hard to tell from angles, but is the turn to starboard normal? OR, does the ship steer directly toward the bridge pier?
ETA: Someone has put-up the relevant timeframe in a static video:
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Lone_Hawk
Resident Spook
Not a conspiracy theorist but...
with the bridge down all traffic will be diverted to the harbor tunnel...
the movie 'daylight' comes to mind
Probably most of the through I-95 traffic will be routed on I-695 inner loop around the north side. Hopefully that NE side has improved in the last 15 years.
jward
passin' thru
I hadn't noticed he was ukrainian- I have watched the red sea enough now to know that in and of itself is nothing incriminating, like you said, but I imagine it'll be even harder to convince folk there is no "there" there. :: shrug ::
I would NOT take that the 695 loop around to the west during rush hour. That is almost always some of the worst traffic in Baltimore. I'd just plan for more time and take the tunnels. Probably the bigger (4 lanes each way) I-95 tunnel. I-895 tunnel is only 2 lanes each way and has size restrictions... if possible.
Just saw on the news I-895 tunnel restrictions: 13' 6" in height, and 8' wide.
jward
passin' thru
Will Tanner
@Will_Tanner_1
It's terribly sad, particularly for the families of those aboard the Dali and driving across the Francis Scott Key Bridge, that it collapsed
But it's also sad in what questions it raises about America's competence: can we build a new one?
When the over mile and a half long bridge was built in the 70s, America was a very different place. We could go to the moon. People were competent and hard-working. The insane grievance studies hadn't made education worthless and kneecapped engineers. Regulation hadn't made construction impossible.
Now? We have supercomputers. There are still intelligent engineers and hardworking Americans around, just look at Space X.
But the "woke mind virus," as Elon called it, has infected everything, everywhere. Regulation has stifled construction and furthered that mind virus.
So when it comes to building a steel-span bridge across Baltimore harbor in 2024, it's hard to say that "yes, we can undoubtedly rebuild it" in the same way that we could have said so in the 70s or 80s. Someone competent like Elon could still make it happen, but so long as the regime, of which Baltimore's government is undoubtedly a part, is involved and pushing its mandates on those trying to build it...not so much
So instead of the flying cars people from the time the bridge was built imagined we'd have, we'll get a collapsed bridges and Boeing airplanes that fall apart
@Will_Tanner_1
It's terribly sad, particularly for the families of those aboard the Dali and driving across the Francis Scott Key Bridge, that it collapsed
But it's also sad in what questions it raises about America's competence: can we build a new one?
When the over mile and a half long bridge was built in the 70s, America was a very different place. We could go to the moon. People were competent and hard-working. The insane grievance studies hadn't made education worthless and kneecapped engineers. Regulation hadn't made construction impossible.
Now? We have supercomputers. There are still intelligent engineers and hardworking Americans around, just look at Space X.
But the "woke mind virus," as Elon called it, has infected everything, everywhere. Regulation has stifled construction and furthered that mind virus.
So when it comes to building a steel-span bridge across Baltimore harbor in 2024, it's hard to say that "yes, we can undoubtedly rebuild it" in the same way that we could have said so in the 70s or 80s. Someone competent like Elon could still make it happen, but so long as the regime, of which Baltimore's government is undoubtedly a part, is involved and pushing its mandates on those trying to build it...not so much
So instead of the flying cars people from the time the bridge was built imagined we'd have, we'll get a collapsed bridges and Boeing airplanes that fall apart
You can see the boat was attempting to stop almost as soon as it lost power and changed course. Somewhere upthread they showed where it lost power with a stiff crosswind from the east. That point is just past the Eric Mcallister boat on this view. They tried to stop, and slowed down pretty well, but something that size has a lot of momentum.
mzkitty
I give up.
7:00 AM, Today show -- 7 people still missing, water temp 45 degrees......
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1772590363565248557
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1772590363565248557
Tex88
Veteran Member
Incidentally, I thought "I hope none of the people driving across were in a Tesla, those damn things are death traps."
Can't open the doors, can't roll down the windows, can't smash the windows.
When the skyway bridge collapsed in Tampa in the 70s, cars pancaked on impact falling off the bridge. There were no survivors.
Maryland bridge collapse brings back memories of Florida's Sunshine Skyway bridge disaster
Several vehicles were reported in Maryland's Patapsco River. Several vehicles and a bus tumbled into the Tampa Bay in 1980.www.palmbeachpost.com
A Maryland bridge partially collapsed early Tuesday morning after being hit by a cargo ship.
The Associated Press reported several vehicles had plunged into the river below and said the ship had caught fire.
➤ Live coverage: Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses, rescue operations underway
The incident brings back memories of a similar incident that happened in Florida when a freighter hit the Sunshine Skyway bridge in 1980.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay. Thirty-five people died.
Here's what is happening in Maryland this morning along with happened in Florida decades ago.
The Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed early Tuesday after it was struckby a large cargo ship, The bridge is a major span critical to East Coast shipping.
The Baltimore City Fire Department received several 911 calls around 1:30 a.m. Several vehicles were reported in the river, and the ship had caught fire.
Live updates:Baltimore's Key Bridge collapses after ship collision; rescue effort underway
"This is currently a mass casualty incident and we are searching for seven people who are in the river," Kevin Cartwright, director of communications for the Baltimore Fire Department, told Reuters.
“Our focus right now is trying to rescue and recover these people.”
Synergy Marine Corp said the Dali, Singapore-flagged container ship, collided with one of the pillars of the bridge. All its crew members, including two pilots, have been accounted for and there were no reports of any injuries.''
On May 9, 1980, the freighter Summit Venture struck the bridge that joined St. Petersburg and Bradenton during a thunderstorm, that brought wind gusts in excess of 80 mph and heavy rain. Visibility when the freighter hit one of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge was near zero, according to skywaybridgedisaster.com.
A 1,200-foot section of the bridge collapsed, sending several cars and a Greyhound bus into the waters of Tampa Bay.
Thirty-five people died.
A new bridge opened in 1987 and the approaches to the old span are now fishing piers.
[/QUOTESeven years to rebuild a bridge.Maryland bridge collapse brings back memories of Florida's Sunshine Skyway bridge disaster
Several vehicles were reported in Maryland's Patapsco River. Several vehicles and a bus tumbled into the Tampa Bay in 1980.www.palmbeachpost.com
homecanner1
Veteran Member
The vids are beginning to emerge. Best grab em and link em while they are accessible.
The first two hours of an event are critical at capturing screenshots so info does not get scrubbed. That may have been one of several pilots on board as they run shifts but his info as a Ukranian national is preserved in the event it becomes inportant down the road. It might
Here is an example of a screen capture to be saved for later.
Recall when the Enbridge Line 5 was sabotaged over in Michigan. We had Romeo in skinny black jeans that wiggled under the fenced off pipeline hub. But he had a sidekick that day of a tall player, prolly in a douchebag wig with a green guitar. Playing a soundtrack.
The screenshots of saboteur$ for hire will continue till morale improves. Because nobuddy wants to ride on a ship of fools with them into bedlam.
View: https://www.tiktok.com/@toby_jg02/video/7350574709743930667
The first two hours of an event are critical at capturing screenshots so info does not get scrubbed. That may have been one of several pilots on board as they run shifts but his info as a Ukranian national is preserved in the event it becomes inportant down the road. It might
Here is an example of a screen capture to be saved for later.
Recall when the Enbridge Line 5 was sabotaged over in Michigan. We had Romeo in skinny black jeans that wiggled under the fenced off pipeline hub. But he had a sidekick that day of a tall player, prolly in a douchebag wig with a green guitar. Playing a soundtrack.
The screenshots of saboteur$ for hire will continue till morale improves. Because nobuddy wants to ride on a ship of fools with them into bedlam.
View: https://www.tiktok.com/@toby_jg02/video/7350574709743930667