ECON [FINANCE] First Deathburger Thread of the 2023 Banking Crisis. ALL welcome (hall passes at the door). Have At It.

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mecoastie

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So heard from a coworker. His girlfriend works in the loans department of a large bank. She does commercial equipment loans. They were told this week to get all the data updated on the equipment. Serial numbers, descriptions etc. guessing that is for possible repo?
 
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Dozdoats

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Man isn’t there enough real stuff???

Maybe. But there is far from enough REAL MONEY, as I have been mentioning for a few decades now. That counterparty risk thing, ya know.

Mom has been digging out a lifetime of paperwork, and found some old CDs my dad (gone now) opened 20 years ago. The bank says no record, sorry. Only 80k worth, no big deal, right?
 

Squid

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So heard from a coworker. His girlfriend works in the loans department of a large bank. She does commercial equipment loans. They were told this week to get all the data updated on the equipment. Serial numbers, descriptions etc. guessing that is for possible repo?
Thanks for info.

Expect Every bank is doing a complete audit of all capital positions and assessment of risk exposure. The end result is fewer loans only to the most credit worthy borrowers and as com real estate loans come due many will not be rolled over but will have to come up with outstanding balance or hand over keys to the building(s).

And many may not be able to find ‘new financing’ so all those overleveraged in their get rich quick with zero down real estate will be adding to the bankruptcy list.
 

Dozdoats

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2inKxSXz0Z4

Fed’s borrowed gold opens up the Abyss - Live From The Vault - Ep:113
RT 42:05

65,631 views Mar 10, 2023
In this week’s Live from the Vault, Andrew Maguire studies the aftermath of the Federal Reserve borrowing over 100 tons of physical gold from the BIS to sell it into the market, in an attempt to push back against the rising price of the precious metal.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Is that a Biden quote?

I think this one might be Hunter, age 5.

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Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member
BS click bait headline.

Transactions being delayed with all the counterparty risk IS NOT the same as money missing from account.

Man isn’t there enough real stuff??? Don’t see a need to inflame the panic and worry.

Click bait? You say that with no proof to back you up.

First of all, this was not from this week, but was from January.
When banks take from your account to pad their accounts there is trouble in paradise.
I saw the video that went with it.
People were filling the BoA lobby waiting to speak to someone. They'd already been in phone contact with customer service and told to speak to the bank. When they got there, they were pushed off again and told to go back and call customer service.
When banks have to pull shenanigans like this, there is trouble.
It wasn't a one-time glitch either. It's been happening steadily since then.
And to boot, it's written into their policies, that they have the right to take monies as needed, once you deposit them into their bank.

My point was that the banks were showing signs of stress even back in January.
 

Squid

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Click bait? You say that with no proof to back you up.

First of all, this was not from this week, but was from January.
When banks take from your account to pad their accounts there is trouble in paradise.
I saw the video that went with it.
People were filling the BoA lobby waiting to speak to someone. They'd already been in phone contact with customer service and told to speak to the bank. When they got there, they were pushed off again and told to go back and call customer service.
When banks have to pull shenanigans like this, there is trouble.
It wasn't a one-time glitch either. It's been happening steadily since then.
And to boot, it's written into their policies, that they have the right to take monies as needed, once you deposit them into their bank.

My point was that the banks were showing signs of stress even back in January.
I have seen video’s on sucky banking and banks giving people the run around and even some parodies that roast some banks really well because how they run around customers.

People are waiting at BoA and Wells Fargo because they suck and they have no idea of the concept of customer service.

While true that many banks have language that allow’s ‘bail-ins’ in the event of severe capital issue to re-capitalize the bank in exchange for shares of the company, they do not at random just take $42.56 from a checking account because they feel like it. No bail-ins have occurred to my knowledge.

The story said the ‘issue’ was delays in processing funds, while the headline is saying the bank is taking money. I stand by these are different things.

If and when a national or regional institutes a bail-in we will all know.
 

Milk-maid

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Meant to write a small diddy happening locally, Sw Virginia.
Hubby went to 2 banks this afternoon.
Bank#1 - A credit union -- looked normal. He got in and got out. Took a withdrawal, no problem.
Bank#2 - Regular regional bank -- long car lines around the bank, no place to park. People waiting to get inside.
They didn't give him a hard time because he was there to make a deposit.

He never goes there on Friday because that's when a lot of people get paid. It might be all that this was.
 

West

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I've had banks that have stolen monies from my personal and businesses accounts, over the years.

Every month I reconcile our checking accounts, every month after receiving the statements. Been doing this for over 30 years now.

Double or triple service fees or alike, has been the most times I've caught them. But also had a BoA and a Wells Fargo both just take a $100 or more. Then when I showed them the math and proof they get all defensive and blow me off, at what time I close accounts and run to new bank.

Most people don't reconcile their accounts and just suck up the losses as the suckered they are.
 

vector7

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General Michael Flynn: Read Executive Order 14067 (it’s on the WH Website).

It addresses Central Bank Digital Currency. If we centralize assets into the largest banks, we lose control of any and all wealth accumulated during our lifetimes...vvv

DavidSacks tells @jimmy_dore that all the money would have ended up in the hands of the four largest banks if the Federal Reserve didn't support regional bank depositors:

"The person who is licking his chops over this whole thing, who doesn't want a bailout of the regional banks, is Jamie Dimon because he manages JP Morgan Chase, the biggest bank.

So I don't get these would-be populists who think they are being helpful here; all they are doing is being useful idiots for the big four banks because without the government intervening to solve the mess that they created, all the cash goes to the top four banks.

My view is we need a vibrant regional banking system in this country because if you don't have that, our freedom is going to be greatly curtailed.

The easiest way to have a social credit system is to force everybody's money into four banks, and then they can just implement the system through their terms of service. Who runs these four banks?

All these people who are politically connected in Washington (DNC/DS) and Davos."
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View: https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1636517409401217024?s=20
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
So heard from a coworker. His girlfriend works in the loans department of a large bank. She does commercial equipment loans. They were told this week to get all the data updated on the equipment. Serial numbers, descriptions etc. guessing that is for possible repo?
Possibly.

But all that equipment has to also be listed in the company's commercial insurance policy, and this is the time of year audits are done by insurance companies......
 

Squid

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well that ought to kill it...............

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-3wgcDRk4
The banking turmoil puts the Fed in a box of their own making.

50% hike, no chance after the last 9 days
25% hike priced in and expected, the market really doesn’t want a surprise
No Change, many might see this as supportive of the market but not only would this be a surprise but in the current market, ‘the market’ might read this as ‘the Fed knows’ something bad and sell off to get ahead of whatever the Fed ‘knows.’
Any rate cut of any percent would be seen as the Fed panicking and if its bad enough for the Fed to panic I better sell everything including Grandma.

Just my thoughts, 25% hike unless the wheels totally fall off early in the week. The market would then wait for post Fed comments and if computers get words like pause and data dependent might stabilize the market and even create short term oversold rally. To be followed by earnings and economy reality hang-over.

Note: not personal investing advice just a view from my broken crystal ball.
 

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Rebel_Yell

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Why woke ‘Frisco Fed chief missed Silicon Valley Bank’s warning signs​

New York Post Opinion by Paul Sperry

Wokeness has replaced competence and merit across the banking sector, and San Francisco Fed Chief Mary Daly is the poster child of this pernicious trend.

A protege of Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and short-list candidate for Federal Reserve vice chair, Daly was supposed to be supervising Silicon Valley Bank but apparently was too busy playing politics and pushing woke agendas to regulate rogue banks like SVB, the second-biggest bank failure on record.

Daly had other priorities, including climate change, George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, inequities between blacks and whites, LGBTQ+ rights and a host of other woke social-justice issues that had nothing to do with banking and finance.

Daly’s Fed bio gushes she’s committed to “understanding the economic and financial risks of climate change and inequities.” Never mind the more existential threat of banks in her jurisdiction amassing mortgage bonds with longer maturities that exposed investors to greater interest-rate risk.

In a recent LinkedIn post, Daly appeared sidetracked by racial justice, writing: “What Black voices have I lifted up? Equity & inclusion begins with me. #GeorgeFloyd.” She also posted selfies with local Black Lives Matter activists.

Meanwhile, Daly missed all the warning signs of runaway inflation, which led to the steep interest-rate hikes that made SVB’s investments worthless.

In 2021, she said, “I am not thinking that we have unwanted inflation around the corner. I don’t think that’s a risk.”

Early last year, moreover, Daly denied the economy was suffering from painful inflation: “That’s not what I see.” She also didn’t see the need for hiking interest rates.

Then in August, she said inflation didn’t affect her personally, so what’s the big deal? “I don’t feel the pain of inflation anymore,” Daly told Reuters.

“I’m not immune to gas prices rising, food prices rising,” she added. “But I don’t find myself in a space where I have to make trade-offs, because I have enough, and many, many Americans have enough.”

Easy for her to say: She pulls down more than $422,000 a year.

Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse has been blamed by its emphasis on woke programs. From her policy papers, speeches and interviews, it’s clear that Daly thinks the Fed’s core mission isn’t controlling inflation but achieving full employment — and raising interest rates just hurts that goal. Her agenda is more jobs and higher wages for minorities, so sound money is not a priority for her — even though inflation is a huge tax on the working class and especially minorities.

Until recently, Daly was opposed to the Fed’s hawkish shift to tightening credit to fight inflation. Her bank examiners no doubt shared her dovish mindset and didn’t anticipate rates increasing, which may also explain why alarms weren’t raised at SVB.

Daly has no background in banking or managing risk. After dropping out of high school, she worked in a donut shop before eventually getting her GED and entering college, where she became enamored with a socialist professor.

She said she was inspired by Marxian economist Gene Wagner, who “has mentored me my whole life.”

Several years later, after earning a PhD from Syracuse University, Daly landed a job as a labor inequality researcher at the San Francisco Fed, where she ingratiated herself with then-SF Fed President Janet Yellen, who helped her fail upward.

Daly called Yellen an “important mentor in my life . . . She made my career kind of explode.” Daly quickly rose up the ranks, and in 2018, she was named president and CEO of the SF Fed — but more important to the wokesters, she was the “first openly gay” regional Fed bank chief.


 

SmithJ

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First Deathburger Thread of the 2023 Banking Crisis.

Have at it.
Oh, Be nice until it's time to be NOT nice, as a young lady of my acquaintance used to say as she moderated a specific Guns & Gunsels Board.

The futs market SHOULD be open. Someone kick this off with current futs report?
You need to be the one to kick off week 2, tomorrow with a new official Deathburger thread. What time are you gonna do it?
 
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