ALERT FDA recommends pause of Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine after blood clot cases

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Wow, very impressive. Thanks.
Nah, not very impressive at all. Most people who enlist in the Navy, especially in tech fields get at least one degree while they are on active duty. Not unusual to get two if you stay for 20.
As far as the free college courses, I'm pretty sure many other states have similar programs. It kind of keeps you young when you are surrounded by young people. It's easy to keep up with the other students and even the strict profs. Especially if you've taken the same course 5 or 10 years ago :lol:
I am fortunate and blessed that I still have my health, such as it is, and am financially secure. I know many here are not. Through no fault of their own many things can happen to people both health wise and financially. I thank God for my good fortune over the years. There are so many things that can happen and go wrong. It's amazing we live from day to day.

A little over a year ago, I spent over 2 and a half months in the hospital with a botched gall bladder operation that didn't close the bile duct and drained several liters of bile and other crap (real crap) into my abdominal cavity. Then a special endoscopic procedure that installed a stent in my main bile duct and helped close off the one that was cut during my gall bladder surgery. Then a drug resistant E-coli infection in my abdominal cavity, then the flu, then pneumonia, then 4 weeks of a special antibiotic through home infusion. Had several blood clots from the IVs and a couple that migrated deeper. So they put in a Central line with a hickman that goes into your chest under the skin to the big vein at the base of your neck and down to a couple of inches from your heart. I got to watch that tube travel through me while I could see my heart beating.
Try being in the hospital when the covid crisis is just kicking off. Add the flu and pneumonia and a drug resistant E-coli infection and watch the hospital staff recoil with a frightened look each time you hack up a lung coughing.
All that made me reconsider my life and I actually became a believer with the help of a caring neighbor who visited me in the hospital. And like I said, It's amazing that we even live from day to day. So many do not.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Nah, not very impressive at all. Most people who enlist in the Navy, especially in tech fields get at least one degree while they are on active duty. Not unusual to get two if you stay for 20.
As far as the free college courses, I'm pretty sure many other states have similar programs. It kind of keeps you young when you are surrounded by young people. It's easy to keep up with the other students and even the strict profs. Especially if you've taken the same course 5 or 10 years ago :lol:
I am fortunate and blessed that I still have my health, such as it is, and am financially secure. I know many here are not. Through no fault of their own many things can happen to people both health wise and financially. I thank God for my good fortune over the years. There are so many things that can happen and go wrong. It's amazing we live from day to day.

A little over a year ago, I spent over 2 and a half months in the hospital with a botched gall bladder operation that didn't close the bile duct and drained several liters of bile and other crap (real crap) into my abdominal cavity. Then a special endoscopic procedure that installed a stent in my main bile duct and helped close off the one that was cut during my gall bladder surgery. Then a drug resistant E-coli infection in my abdominal cavity, then the flu, then pneumonia, then 4 weeks of a special antibiotic through home infusion. Had several blood clots from the IVs and a couple that migrated deeper. So they put in a Central line with a hickman that goes into your chest under the skin to the big vein at the base of your neck and down to a couple of inches from your heart. I got to watch that tube travel through me while I could see my heart beating.
Try being in the hospital when the covid crisis is just kicking off. Add the flu and pneumonia and a drug resistant E-coli infection and watch the hospital staff recoil with a frightened look each time you hack up a lung coughing.
All that made me reconsider my life and I actually became a believer with the help of a caring neighbor who visited me in the hospital. And like I said, It's amazing that we even live from day to day. So many do not.
That is an amazing situation, good to know you sir. I look forward to your wisdom.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Take a deep breath, TerryK. Take a deep breath and calm down a bit. I did not say vaccines were genetic garbage. I said the J&J doesn't deliver the genetic garbage the other two does. Maybe cell biology folks aren't educated. I don't know.
Actually the end product of the J&J is mRNA. Almost the exact same mRNA that Pfizer and Moderna inject directly inside small fat droplets. It has to be the same result because all 3 of the vaccines make the covid protein spike from mRNA.
The J&J uses your body to make the mRNA, while the others just inject the premade mRNA. A much simpler process with less chance for issues.
Right now the J&J vaccine seems to be having the same problem the AstraZenica vaccine is having with clotting.
'I think it is either because it is one dose, or something in the common ingredients., or it could be the flood of spikes that are produced by a single dose, instead of spaced out 2 doses. Thats just my feeling backed by no evidence
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
That is an amazing situation, good to know you sir. I look forward to your wisdom.
I'm not that smart. Just ask my wife. Certainly don't possess wisdom. I'm just interested in science. Ive done a lot of dumb things in my life, I'm just fortunate that none of them killed me. Yet... :) That's one of the things I thank God for every day.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I think I agree with Trump that they should not have pulled the vaccine.
Perhaps go to 2 doses or something, but far more people die of Covid than vaccine reactions.
Interesting that Pfizer was the only vaccine that was invented with no government funding for it's development. All three received government money to finance the mass production, but Pfizer invented it's vaccine one it's own.
I think the Trump administration gave AstraZenica over a billion dollars (1.2 I believe) to help with it's development and to insure later US availability. The US has not as yet cleared the AstraZenica for use in the US. The AstraZenica works the same way the J&J works. AstraZenica has been reporting the clotting issues for some time now. Many countries in the EU stopped it's use, but some have resumed using it because Covid deaths far, far outnumber deaths or serious side effects from the AstraZenica adeno virus vaccine.
 

WriterMom

Veteran Member
I'm not that smart. Just ask my wife. Certainly don't possess wisdom. I'm just interested in science. Ive done a lot of dumb things in my life, I'm just fortunate that none of them killed me. Yet... :) That's one of the things I thank God for every day.

Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your posts! (also - although my professional experience is in molecular and cell biology/immunology, I LOVE physics! Wish I had a degree in that as well.)
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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All that made me reconsider my life and I actually became a believer with the help of a caring neighbor who visited me in the hospital. And like I said, It's amazing that we even live from day to day. So many do not.
I have said many times that until God calls you home, you’re effectively immortal. But when that call comes, nothing will give you even one more breath. That’s why I could put the whole Covid thing in His hands, and not have any worries.
 

Hazard

Contributing Member
A heck of a lot more than 6 cases. I have an employee whose dad in Florida died 72 hours after his second shot when he threw a massive blood clot that killed him in under a minute. There was no autopsy as he was elderly and his death never made it into the vaccine adverse events database. You can probably take these six deaths and multiply it by thousands.

the ones with 2 shots are not j&j
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
It is all really this simple...

The people that tell you....

No new taxes...then raise taxes

Two weeks to slow the spread...then a year plus later your still locked down.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman...then you find out he did


Eggs are good for you, eggs are bad for you..

He got the most votes of any presidential candidate in The history of our nation...
Yet cant get 200 peeps to show up for anything ..well except to cross the border...

They are the same kinds of people telling you to let a stranger inject you with...god knows what.

We arent coming for your guns.. hell yes we are coming for your ar-15s your ak-47s...we dont need weapons of war on our nations streets..

They are not looters and murderers, they are mostly peaceful protesters.




AND YOU BELIEVE A ****ING WORD THAT THEY SAY???

Very foolish if your asking me for my opinion...which, of course...your not.


But... maybe you should.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Interesting segment on Tucker Carlson tonight about the J&J vaccine.

He had a scientist/doctor on who said that it is possible that these clots are being formed in people who still have high antibody levels in their blood that they acquired via natural covid infection. That is apparently a natural immune response. The only way to avoid this? Check antibody titers.

Why are they not being done? Costs and tptb want this vaccine stuff done asap. Science and the public health and safety be damned! TYPICAL

The scientist/doctor also stated that the other vaccines could also be having similar problems with antibody reactions...not just the J&J. You don't know, if you don't test for antibody levels.

I just thought it was very timely and interesting...wanted to share with the class :apc:

Walkin' Away
Pretty much what Nightwolf suggested as a possibility but he hasn't done any research. When he has time this week, he will try to go over the J and J stuff, that's the one vaccine he didn't have time to do a lot of research on.

But Nightwolf said it is extremely important to find out if the problems are being caused by side effects from the vaccine themselves or being caused by the immune reactions people are having as a result of the vaccines.

He said it makes all the difference in the world in how things are approached and if the responses are an immune response then yes, this could potentially be a problem with ANY Vaccine, especially when used on people who may already have antibodies in their system.

And since many people today have antibodies from asymptomatic cases of the disease itself, that is a very important thing to find out as quickly as possible.

Of course, given the costs involved in testing everyone for antibodies before being given a shot; there is a lot of incentive to not answer that question unless or until the reactions become so common and extreme the drug companies can't avoid it.
 

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther
Medicine is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US and, yet, we're tripping over ourselves for an experimental drug that doesn't prevent getting the disease or spreading the disease.
99.6% recovery.

94% of the "cases" are wrong.

Over 2000 DOCUMENTED deaths and 50,000 DOCUMENTED effects.
It's widely accepted that's only 1-10% of cases that get reported.

On this forum alone, there are dozens of posts on safe effective prophylactics and preventatives.

I know I'm not very smart and prove it here regularly.

Maybe I'm just not smart enough to figure out the logic and reasoning behind this.

Best medical system in the world
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member
COVID-19 and Blood Clotting | Blood Clots (stoptheclot.org)

COVID-19 AND BLOOD CLOTTING

As COVID-19 impacts communities across the United States, the National Blood Clot Alliance has monitored aspects of this novel coronavirus that intersect with the clinical interests of the clotting and clotting disorders community.

Specifically, NBCA’s Medical & Scientific Advisory Board has been focused on the recognition of coagulopathies – or different types of blood clotting – that are being reported among people affected by COVID-19, particularly those who become severely ill after infection with the virus.

While research is ongoing and new studies emerge almost daily with new information, many questions remain about COVID-19. NBCA is sharing the resources below to help provide information and resources to help people better understand the relationship between COVID-19 and blood clots. Individuals are encouraged, however, to always speak with their healthcare providers about all of their questions and concerns.

Update: Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccine
On April 13, 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the United States Food & Drug Administration recommended a pause in the use of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine out of an abundance of caution after six people in the U.S. developed a rare blood-clotting disorder (of nearly 7 million doses administered). During this pause, the CDC is convening a meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to evaluate these cases, and the FDA will review this analysis.

In these cases, a type of blood clot called cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) was seen in combination with low levels of blood platelets (thrombocytopenia). These cases occurred in women ages 18 to 48, with symptoms developing six to 13 days after they received the vaccination.

While blood clotting events in connection with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine appear to be extremely rare, people who receive the vaccine should discuss any concerns they have with their healthcare provider. If they develop new, severe, and constant headache, abdominal pain, leg pain, or shortness of breath within three weeks after vaccination, they should contact their health care provider right away, or go to the nearest hospital or emergency room.

The Medical & Scientific Advisory Board of the National Blood Clot Alliance stresses the importance of vaccination among members of the clotting and clotting disorders community. The reported combination of the vaccine and blood clots incidents seen are exceedingly rare, and the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccine far outweigh the risk of blood clotting. Having a prior blood clot is not a known risk factor for developing this rare post-COVID-19 vaccine clotting problem. Notably, this complication has not been observed with the other two vaccines for COVID-19 that have received emergency use authorization in the US (Pfizer and Moderna). People should speak with their healthcare providers about any questions they have.

More Information and Updates:

April 13, 2021, Joint CDC and FDA Statement on Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine

How safe are the Covid vaccines for someone with Factor V Leiden ? - Blood clots - Inspire

In-God-We-Trust
  • February 17, 2021 at 3:02 pm
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I have Factor V Leiden and have been on Coumadin since 2007. I also have heart disease and 1 stent in the L.A.D. I am concerned about getting the Covid Vaccine, either Moderna or Pfizer.
Is it safe to get the vaccine with my condition ?

  • February 17, 2021 at 4:06 pm
Hello In-God-We-Trust,

Welcome to our community on Inspire. We're glad you joined us here. It is important to share that this space is moderated by Communications staff members with the National Blood Clot Alliance, or NBCA. We are not doctors -- and we do not have doctors on staff here -- so we cannot provide medical advice or answer specific questions about your care. We can, however, share some hopefully helpful information with you.

Your doctor or healthcare team should be your first resource when it comes to your questions about factor V Leiden and the COVID-19 vaccine.

Right now, NBCA does not have any specific information about the vaccine and factor V Leiden. We do have dedicated resources related to COVID-19 and clotting, including information about the vaccine, on our website, which you can find here:

- COVID-19 and Blood Clotting: COVID-19 and Blood Clotting | Blood Clots
- Q&A: Frequently Asked Questions: COVID-19 and Blood Clotting | Blood Clots
 

TKO

Veteran Member
I think I agree with Trump that they should not have pulled the vaccine.
Perhaps go to 2 doses or something, but far more people die of Covid than vaccine reactions.
Interesting that Pfizer was the only vaccine that was invented with no government funding for it's development. All three received government money to finance the mass production, but Pfizer invented it's vaccine one it's own.
I think the Trump administration gave AstraZenica over a billion dollars (1.2 I believe) to help with it's development and to insure later US availability. The US has not as yet cleared the AstraZenica for use in the US. The AstraZenica works the same way the J&J works. AstraZenica has been reporting the clotting issues for some time now. Many countries in the EU stopped it's use, but some have resumed using it because Covid deaths far, far outnumber deaths or serious side effects from the AstraZenica adeno virus vaccine.
Trump makes sense here. But here's the thing. They never get the flu shot right. They won't get these boosters right either. The money isn't in THIS shot right now...whether 2 or 1 shot. It's in the boosters...aka "yearly flu shots". Steady income stream for these pharms. It's almost an instant market. The last flu shot I had I did not do well with it. I felt like total crud for 2 days afterward and my arm felt like someone had hit me really hard there.
 

TKO

Veteran Member
I have said many times that until God calls you home, you’re effectively immortal. But when that call comes, nothing will give you even one more breath. That’s why I could put the whole Covid thing in His hands, and not have any worries.
Well, that's a healthy attitude. You've done all you think you can do at this point. It's in God's hands now...not that it wasn't to begin with.
 

somewherepress

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think I agree with Trump that they should not have pulled the vaccine.
Perhaps go to 2 doses or something, but far more people die of Covid than vaccine reactions.
Interesting that Pfizer was the only vaccine that was invented with no government funding for it's development. All three received government money to finance the mass production, but Pfizer invented it's vaccine one it's own.
I think the Trump administration gave AstraZenica over a billion dollars (1.2 I believe) to help with it's development and to insure later US availability. The US has not as yet cleared the AstraZenica for use in the US. The AstraZenica works the same way the J&J works. AstraZenica has been reporting the clotting issues for some time now. Many countries in the EU stopped it's use, but some have resumed using it because Covid deaths far, far outnumber deaths or serious side effects from the AstraZenica adeno virus vaccine.

If this report is correct, Covid is just the flu.
Laboratories in US can’t find Covid-19 in one of 1,500 positive tests
BY GREATREJECT · 11/04/2021


CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B – EU statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.
A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.
Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’
At 7 universities not once COVID detected
‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’
‘This virus is fictitious’
‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’
‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’
‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’
‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’
CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus
Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.
About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’
In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.
Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus
Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.
Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.
Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests
In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.
‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’
Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’
‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’
Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’
Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
Most people have been fooled by fear propaganda
With worldwide, government-controlled 24/7 fear propaganda by the mass media, most people have come to believe that there is indeed a life-threatening virus that makes people sick much faster and more severely than seasonal flu. However, even the latter is demonstrably not the case. Influenza A has been the leading cause of death from pneumonia in the developed world for years.
But send people designated as severe Covid patients to a few ICU’s, put cameras on them constantly, instruct a few physicians that they should only discuss the worst cases, and you have your “televised pandemic. The argument ‘we are doing it because otherwise care will be overburdened’ was undermined by governments itself some time ago, by rejecting offers of additional ICU beds or staff, because ‘it is not necessary’. (Was this perhaps the first and only time the truth was told?)
Official figures: nothing to worry about (yet it never gets back to normal)
Now that also the official figures show that after the normal traditional flu season nothing is wrong, and according to the EU statistics (EuroMOMO) there is even a significant lower mortality, the society – if it really was about a virus and public health – should immediately go back to normal to start repairing the huge damage caused by government policies.
However, as you know, that will never be done, and that is because this carefully planned pandemic hoax is carrying out an ideological agenda, the ‘Great Reset’, which aims to largely demolish the society and economy of the West, and then subject it to a global technocratic communist climate-vaccine dictatorship, in which all our freedoms, civil and self-determination rights will be done away with once and for all.
At least that was their plan.


 
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