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yup.
do I need to go back and add a joke tag or sumthin??
No way! Stealth jokes and sarcasm are here to stay like high food and energy costs!
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yup.
do I need to go back and add a joke tag or sumthin??
You’ve clearly never been to South Carolina. That’s just the southern drawlStrange accent for Murricans.
It's silly until it happens for the first time. I well recall how dumbstruck we were the first time a plane was hijacked. Why would anyone hijack a plane? What could you DO with it? But there it was, hijacked anyway.Bear in mind, I am sure this plane crashed somewhere. Notions that it was commandeered and flown to and landed in Cuba or anywhere else are just plain silly.
It's silly until it happens for the first time. I well recall how dumbstruck we were the first time a plane was hijacked. Why would anyone hijack a plane? What could you DO with it? But there it was, hijacked anyway.
Being commandeered is certainly within the range of technical possibility. We now know that ejecting is software-controllable, as I and others hypothesized many pages back. And we certainly don't know what the heck happened. So at this point everything is still up for grabs.
For whoever's keeping score, I wasn't suggesting Cuba.![]()
Is this feasible? Could a .50 shoot down a plane 2500 feet above it? I don't have a feel for that at all.
I use the term “Screwgle”When goggle (see what I did there?) can't provide an instant answer its time for the off-beat hollywierd conspiracy theories to come out.
Yeah clearly you do, sounded serious enough to me. Work on that sense of humor, they’ll be a test tomorrow…psss
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do I need to go back and add a joke tag or sumthin??
Lol! North Charleston would have African Militia…
THIS!!! They are setting us up! Think outside the box that they are trying to corral us into. Are our defenses being left wide open on purpose? I don't care how inept our military appears to be, it would never announce to the whole world our air defense is grounded.A crashed F-35 is hardly anything new. What is unusual is that an order was issued to ground "all aviation units" around the world.
I haven't seen any credible close-up images. As a rule of thumb, the more trees are damaged, the more large pieces of the plane will be left. This video shows a lot of trees down over some distance. That means whatever hit them came at a low angle and fast. That means the wings should be separated, and the tail surfaces should have survived.So... total incineration of the F-35?
Incredible.
Is this feasible? Could a .50 shoot down a plane 2500 feet above it? I don't have a feel for that at all
The Marine Corps has labeled this incident a "Class-A mishap." This began on Sunday afternoon when the pilot of the stealth jet ejected safely into a North Charleston neighborhood. Through Monday afternoon, the military asked the public for help to locate the $140 million jet.JUST IN: Footage of the debris field of the F-35 jet has been released after it was located in a field in Williamsburg County, South Carolina.
The crash site was about 80 miles from Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina.
The F-35 fighter jet appeared to run through a group of… pic.twitter.com/mqOdRSpUOt
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 19, 2023
And there's this...Despite years of patches and upgrades, the F-35's most combat-crucial computer systems continue to malfunction, including the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) maintenance and parts ordering network; and the data links that display, combine, and exchange target and threat information among fighters and intelligence sources.
As in previous years, cybersecurity testing shows that many previously confirmed F-35 vulnerabilities have not been fixed, meaning that enemy hackers could potentially shut down the ALIS network, steal secret data from the network and onboard computers, and perhaps prevent the F-35 from flying or from accomplishing its missions.
Was the multi-trillion-dollar F-35 program, often criticized as America's most dysfunctional weapons program, compromised by a cyberattack?Green Hills Software produces the Integrity 178B Operating System that powers the F-35, F-22, F-16, and B-2. It also powers the Airbus A380. It was also quite possibly leaked. Now you understand why the entire USMC air fleet has been grounded.
Fun fact: the CEO of Green Hills… https://t.co/jKSWaKYL4p pic.twitter.com/sFTx2fKEBB
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 19, 2023
So what height will a 50 cal reach?Doable, yes. All depends where you hit them.
Good to hear from you DD. My thoughts exactly but it would be the Golden BB.Doable, yes. All depends where you hit them.
Footage of the #F35Missing jet's debris field was made public after the aircraft was discovered in a field about 80 miles separated the crash site from Joint Base Charleston in South Carolina.
As per the official manual…
“The F-35 has the most advanced sensor suite of any fighter in history, including the Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, Distributed Aperture System (DAS), Electro Optical Targeting System (EOTS) and advanced electronic warfare capabilities to locate/track enemy forces, jam radars and disrupt attacks.”
We have already heard the vulnerability of F-35 hacking in 2019. So what exactly happened is still question.
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Oh yeah, it would have to hit. But I can't find anything about its ballistics that tells me what velocity it still has at 2500 feet. No charts go that way, they cover arcs to a target, not shooting straight up.My thoughts exactly but it would be the Golden BB.
You can pop a head at a mile if you are good enough.So what height will a 50 cal reach?
The bullet will have to overcome the force of gravity and drag. The . 50 BMG is listed as having a maximum ceiling of about 15,000 ft with a bullet weighing 1.71 oz and a muzzle velocity of about 2900 f/s.Velocity at a HORIZONTAL mile is immaterial. What's the velocity at a mile UP?
About six times the height at which they're saying someone shot this plane. Sounds pretty doable then. It would still have most of its muzzle energy at that height per your numbers.The bullet will have to overcome the force of gravity and drag. The . 50 BMG is listed as having a maximum ceiling of about 15,000 ft
What Debris?
Debris from missing F-35 fighter jet located in South Carolina
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Yeah. I don't know how people live like that.My gosh are people tightly wound on this thread. When goggle (see what I did there?) can't provide an instant answer its time for the off-beat hollywierd conspiracy theories to come out. We can decide without any facts what happened to a missing billion $ plane within 36 hours max, but over 100 years after the clothes drier was invented we can't explain missing socks. There is no justice in the universe.
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I think I heard they have done it out to 1 1/2 mile.You can pop a head at a mile if you are good enough.
Don't know this for a fact, but would suspect that not only the velocity of the bullet but also the velocity of the plane needs to be taken into account.About six times the height at which they're saying someone shot this plane. Sounds pretty doable then. It would still have most of its muzzle energy at that height per your numbers.
The corollary question, of course, is what kind of rig he used, what kind of mount. Maybe it was just offhand shooting.![]()
Otherwise known as "leading the target."Don't know this for a fact, but would suspect that not only the velocity of the bullet but also the velocity of the plane needs to be taken into account.
A service-wide stand down because of the three aviation accidents with fatalities the USMC has had just since July of this year. I went thru one back in the 70s. A Tactical Air Command-wide stand down that was an "Everybody who is part of flying and maintenance squadrons in the base theater, fire and brimstone, come to Jesus, STOP EFFING UP, threats of Leavenworth, safety briefing."his discussion is the first to raise what I find the most interesting/alarming element-question: the suggestion this could be laying the foundation for a false flag to get us moving along toward overt ww3 and to address the horror of the biden approval #s....
Will Schryver
@imetatronink
So apparently a US pilot, for reasons that remain unclear, ejected from a still-flying Marine Corps F-35B somewhere over South Carolina, but a frantic search cannot locate the abandoned jet. And now the USMC commandant has ordered a two-day "stand-down" for "all aviation units" around the world!!!
Note well, the order is not for "all F-35 units", but for "all aviation units".
To me, that must be interpreted as everything that flies — attack aircraft, tankers, helicopters, etc.
WHY?
This makes absolutely no sense at all — and STRONGLY suggests that they actually DO KNOW what happened to that F-35B ... and it must be DAMN SERIOUS — and somehow applicable to ALL AIRCRAFT for them to have ordered a total stand-down of "all aviation units".
Well ... I cannot for the life of me imagine what would warrant such an extreme action on the part of the US military. But it simply must be something that has severely spooked them.
Developing ...
(Edit: to be clear, I absolutely do NOT believe this jet was commandeered and landed safely somewhere. To me, that is a silly theory.)
Will Schryver
@imetatronink
All I've seen so far is that they claim to have found "some debris", but are still searching for where the plane wreckage is.
Bear in mind, I am sure this plane crashed somewhere. Notions that it was commandeered and flown to and landed in Cuba or anywhere else are just plain silly.
A crashed F-35 is hardly anything new. What is unusual is that an order was issued to ground "all aviation units" around the world.