POL Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election

jward

passin' thru
I had to think twice to process what his aim was with this statement. But I have watched enough that the cycle is completely predictable: Trump will troll, first come the TDS squads a wailin' and gnashin' the teeth. Then the never trumpers join the conga line, and in the rear, where the biggest asses always belong, will be the RINOs a wringin their hands, clutching their pearls and a wailin and gnashin' their teeth.

Don't get me wrong. I'm here for the constitution, and should he step outside of it, I'll be the protester. But that is not what has happened, this is classic DJT, and like all those times before, he's going to pull a win out of his hat, and the bobble heads and breathless watchers will be off to the next distraction to babble 'bout.
 

psychrn

Senior Member
He is living large in their heads and even some Trump supporters are clutching their pearls as well. We should know about 4 years in now how he operates.

He knows the election isn’t going to be postponed and he knows his comments are going to cause a firestorm on both sides. He also knows the opposition is going to go against anything he says so why would he make that comment? Has he lost his mind?

He is brilliant, he knows that his comments are going to cause a $hit storm and he does it anyway. What if he sensed that the left in dealing with a faltering Biden was going to have to replace him at the last minute? What if he knows that that are going to have to play a postpone the election card as it’s not fair to put a last minute candidate into the mix with the Dems totally unprepared?

So he comes out suggesting that perhaps the election should be postponed knowing that the pushback is going to be immense and probably anticipating the House initiating legislation to force the election to be held on time or a House resolution saying that any delay for any reason is unconstitutional. He is doing this knowing the pushbacks are coming and he is doing it intentionally. Enjoy the show.
Excellent hypothesis. Nicely summed up.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Constitutionally, the vote date is set in stone.
Yes. And there are a few more dates set in stone. Remember, the electoral college elects the president. So, technically you could probably skip the people's vote. The elector must submit their vote to congress no later than December 23. On January 6 the electoral votes are opened and read before congress. January 20 is the transition of power. Technically, I guess, you could move the people's vote to sometime closer to December 23. But that's about it.
 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
At this point he can now be the hero and “compromise” with a by request mail in vote. While still having in person options. He gets to be the hero for ADA folks too, for example many states have special polling systems for the visually impaired allowing them to still have a vote that does not require another person to help directly. The whole secret ballot sanctity promise.

I do wonder about timing though. Portland had a different feel in the fed response last night. China is a mess on more fronts than they can count. Hearings and legal things happening all over, and of course Covid. Is the timing a distraction from all of this or something new?

This will be a unifying topic for the country however. Everyone will agree that elections should happen, and as close to date as possible. We form a group of bipartisan problem solvers and figure out solutions. Heck we’ve already started on here being creative. Elections happen, bipartisan win, and Trump is a unifier across the aisle again. Just a thought
 

All4liberty

Senior Member
One more thing, I have no idea if Trump is brilliant or not, but if I were faced with Democrats wanting to mass send ballots out to everyone because Covid 19 is too dangerous. I too would say, perhaps we need to delay the election. Kind of like Art of the Deal, throw out something that you would not get, to get something you could live with.

Make no mistake, mass mail in ballots would be filled with fraud for important states.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
One more thing, I have no idea if Trump is brilliant or not, but if I were faced with Democrats wanting to mass send ballots out to everyone because Covid 19 is too dangerous. I too would say, perhaps we need to delay the election. Kind of like Art of the Deal, throw out something that you would not get, to get something you could live with.

Make no mistake, mass mail in ballots would be filled with fraud for important states.

No, the Dims would surely do massive vote fraud even in states they were sure to lose OR win. First, they want the former states' electoral votes if possible; second, to the degree they can at all plausibly claim popular vote victory, they perceive (with some justification) that helps them. The latter is aside from the compact a bunch of states have entered into to give their EV to whomever wins the popular vote (which may or may not function this time).
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
As opposed to just ignored for a little bit this time?
How about we cut to the chase and just hit the streets and get this over with.
In case you are living in a bubble - that's EXACTLY what they are doing.

Unfortunately the government is picking and choosing which laws they want to follow and which ones they TOTALLY ignore.

Is Hillary in jail?

Was obama really a citizen?

They condone and encourage what one side is doing and brutally punish they other side.

And lie about EVERYTHING.
 

Breeta

Veteran Member
Rush Limbaugh explained it perfectly today. Sadly I can’t find any audio of it on youtube yet but his commentary was between 9:35-10am pacific (ie 2nd half of the 1st hour of his show).
He explained it more eloquently than I ever could, but that the tweet was Trump’s response to the dems and what Obama just said about voter supression. He doesn’t really want to move the election and he knows it wont happen. There were question narks in his tweet...
if i can find Rush’s comment, I will post. (apologies for format, i am on iphone and copy/paste is hard)

Obama tells donors he fears voter suppression, Trump questioning election
legitimacy: report


Former President Obama on Tuesday told donors ahead of the 2020 election that his top concerns include voter suppression and President Trump potentially casting doubt on the election's legitimacy.

At a Tuesday fundraiser with actor George Clooney, Obama named the two potential issues when asked what keeps him up at night, The New York Times reported.

In a separate event with Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D), Obama warned that the president has cultivated a support base that "filters out any contradictory information."


"It's just glued to Fox News and Breitbart and [Rush] Limbaugh and just this conservative echo chamber - and so, they're going to turn out to vote," he said, according to the Times.
"What he has unleashed and what he continues to try to tap into is the fears and anger and resentment of people who, in some cases, really are having a tough time and have seen their prospects, or communities where they left, declining," the former president added.

Obama also reportedly warned against complacency, noting that rhetoric Obama's audience might find disqualifying might not necessarily doom Trump's reelection bid.

"We already saw this guy win once," Obama said. "After he bragged about physically assaulting women - and that didn't seem to matter. So, enough said. Let's get to work."

The report comes as the president has stepped up his attacks on mail-in voting, suggesting in a Thursday morning tweet that the election should be delayed. The authority to delay presidential elections rests solely with Congress.

The former president did not make an endorsement during the Democratic primaries, but has leapt into the fray since Biden became the presumptive nominee. Obama has made several virtual appearances, including a joint appearance with Biden that was the Biden campaign's biggest fundraising event thus far.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez told the Times the virtual events, a precaution during the coronavirus pandemic, have also simplified logistics.

"The virtual context means you don't have to put him and other surrogates on a plane," he said. "This just allows him to do more events, more efficiently. That's been a surprise."

The Hill has reached out to representatives for Obama for comment.
 

Breeta

Veteran Member
Here it is... Rush’s brilliant take:


Trump Blows Up the Left with Election Delay Tweet
Jul 30, 2020




RUSH: Donald Trump has blown up the American left with his suggestion that we delay the election because of the fraudulent content of mail-in ballots. It’s amazing how the Democrats continue to fall for this guy and — after almost four years — still have no idea how Trump does what he does and why he’s doing it when he does what he does. But I, of course, the Trump expert in the American media, were gonna explain this to you as the program unfolds today.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I have a story here from TheHill.com. The headline is this: “Obama Tells Donors He Fears Voter Suppression, Trump Questioning Election Legitimacy — Former President Obama on Tuesday told donors ahead of the 2020 election that his top concerns include voter suppression and President Trump potentially casting doubt on the election’s legitimacy.”

May I comment on this? Yes, I can because it’s my program and I’m duty-bound, ’cause this is outrageous. The Democrat Party has done more to damage the integrity, the honor, and the reputation of the American presidential electoral system than anything Vladimir Putin or any Russian or any ChiCom could have hoped to have done.
For four years they have perpetuated a lie that the 2016 election was illegitimate, that Donald Trump didn’t really win, that Hillary Clinton did. That Donald Trump was a traitor. That Donald Trump worked with the Russians to steal the election. That actual votes were tampered with, that voting machines were tampered with, even though nothing of the kind happened, there was never any evidence of any of this.
It was one of the biggest political scandals — it is the biggest political scandal of any of our lifetimes. And by hyping this and by promoting the idea, they still to this day cannot come to grips with the fact that they lost the 2016 election. And they claim because it was illegitimate, because it was a fraudulent election ’cause Trump cheated, the Russians cheated, the Russians meddled. They have done more to put the outcome of every election in question than anything Trump or Putin or any American enemy ever could have.
So for Obama to come along here now, say he fears voter suppression? Voter suppression and he worries that Trump is gonna question the legitimacy of the election? Why wouldn’t Trump? Trump has been the victim of an attempt to say he didn’t win, when it was one of the greatest human accomplishments in American history.
They are attempting to deny Donald Trump one of the greatest achievements of his life and in American politics. A genuine outsider who had never run for the presidency before comes along and defeats the biggest and most powerful political machine of his generation. That would be the Clinton political machine, the Democrat Party.
And look at the allies they had. They had the FBI leadership. They had the intelligence community leadership. They had MI5 in the U.K. They had the whole of the United States media. They had the Democrat Party electoral apparatus in state after state after state gunning for Donald Trump Donald Trump. They had what they thought was the smartest woman in the world as their candidate, and they couldn’t beat the guy, they couldn’t stop the guy, they couldn’t stop him with anything they tried.
They couldn’t stop him with the Access Hollywood video. They couldn’t stop him with Stormy Daniels. They couldn’t stop him with Michael Avenatti. They couldn’t stop him with Michael Cohen. They haven’t laid a glove on him. They’ve distracted him, and they have slowed down the agenda. Don’t misunderstand. Not saying there’s no damage done, but their objective has been to get rid of him.
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Their objective is to be successful to the point that he goes to jail. Their objective has been to get him out of the White House and somehow get Hillary in there. Their objective has been to reverse the 2016 election. You know it and I know it. In the process, folks, Trump hasn’t done one thing to damage the electoral integrity of this country. Not a single thing. They have. And nobody calls them out on it.
They’ve been talking for two years about how the 2020 election is — Trump’s already cheating. Trump is already tampering. Trump is already working with the Russians to steal another one. They have made it appear that it’s some of the easiest work in the world to steal a U.S. presidential election. They’ve made it look like they’re impotent and can’t stop it.
They have done everything in the world to make it appear as though it’s one of the easiest things in the world to do, steal a U.S. presidential election, even though Barack Hussein O pointed out, I think in the spring of 2016, how impossible it is and how impossible it would be to actually tamper with and change a U.S. presidential election. It would not be possible.
So for Obama to come out here fearing voter suppression, Trump questioning — they know they’re gonna lose. That’s what all of this means. They’re already setting up excuses. And believe me, folks, if your candidate, if your standard-bearer was Plugs Biden, I guarantee you in the real world you’d be thinking you’re gonna lose too. Common sense gets buried here by the conventional wisdom of the day, but Plugs Biden? Can you imagine the lack of any kind of confidence that candidate stirs within the Democrat Party? They’ve got to run some kind of operation here.
So in the midst of all of this, what happens? Well, we get a tweet. We get a tweet from the Trumpster. And here is the Trumpster’s tweet. It happened at 9:02 this morning: “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???” With three question marks.
So here comes Obama telling donors he fears voter suppression and he fears Trump’s questioning the election legitimacy, and Trump obliges. And they blow up. They literally blow up. We have the Drive-Bys wild here with this delay action tweet of Trump’s. Here’s sound bite number 2.
POPPY HARLOW: The president seriously just floated the idea of delaying the election.
JIM SCIUTTO: The sitting president suggesting delaying his own election.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: He thinks that he can just delay the election.
JIM CRAMER: Why do we have to delay the election and why does it have to be crooked?
KEVIN CIRILLI: Could they delay this election? I mean, you would have to go back to 1845.
DAVID FABER: Exacerbate the fears that he won’t accept the results of the election should it go against him.
DANIEL FLAX: Elections to our democracy are critical. I do think it’s important that they’re held this year.
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RUSH: Now, the Democrats are all bent out of shape here ’cause Trump is talking about delaying the election because of universal mail-in voting being the most inaccurate and fraudulent way of voting, and there’s evidence, and I’ve got it coming up. We’ll get to that in just a second. But I had some people who fell for this even on our side. “Rush, what is Trump doing? This is the worst thing. Oh, my God. Rush you’ve gotta help me understand. What is Trump doing?”
Folks, he’s attempting to play them like a Stradivarius. You can’t look at this tweet in a vacuum. You have to look at it within the context of Obama out there telling donors he fears voter suppression and he thinks that Trump is gonna question the legitimacy of the election when these people have already destroyed that. They’ve already destroyed the legitimacy of the election and mail-in voting is a further attempt to damage the legitimacy of the election.
But what this is, it’s not hard if you understand Trump as I do. I may be, I may be the single most qualified media person to explain Donald Trump to people that don’t get him and to people who have made no effort to get him. What this is is a play. Trump is playing off Obama, worried about voter suppression, and fearing that Trump might question the legitimacy of the election. It’s only a common sense thing to do.
After everything the Democrats have done for four years, then you add in this universal mail-in voting. But it’s a play off, you know, the left is saying, “We can’t start school until we have a vaccine. We can’t go back to work until COVID runs its course.” The left is presenting impossible alternatives out there. We can’t start school until we have a vaccine. The hell we can’t. But that’s the choice they are attempting to set up for people.
We can’t go back to work until COVID runs its course. Well, that means nobody’s ever going to back to work ’cause COVID’s never gonna run its course. It’s there. It’s gonna be with us forever. Do we get a vaccine someday? Maybe. Do we get therapeutics someday? Maybe. Hydroxychloroquine, will it ever be used universally because of the success people had? Maybe. But it’s always gonna be around.
The left is using these false-choice narratives as an effort to dispirit you, to depress you, to think that there is no reason to even hope we can get back to some state of normalcy or the way things used to be. We can’t start school until we have a vaccine. We can’t go back to work until COVID runs its course. Should we delay the election until we get this mail-in ballot thing straightened out? He’s just ramming it back down their throats. And predictably, they’re going bonkers over him mentioning this delay.
And because they’ve made no effort in four years to even try to understand who Trump is and how he operates and the same thing about his supporters, they’re too dumb to realize what he’s actually doing here. So the left now has to choose one course or the other because this is what they’ve been presenting to us. They have to choose. Delay the election, mail-in voting. Mail-in voting go by the wayside or do we delay the election? This is the choice that he’s giving them.
He’s simply doing pushback. He’s simply throwing it right back in their face. The thing about this that is continually amazing to me is that these people, political experts extraordinaire, political professionals, consultants, they’re all over the place in the American Drive-By Media, the Democrat Party, they still do not get Trump or the people who support him. They look at everything through a prism of how things have always been, how things have always been done, because it’s comfortable.
But nothing in the past matters. Nothing yesterday matters. We’re in a new boat. We’re on a new ocean every single day. Nothing is the same. And the question is, can it go back? Can we return to the same? Is this the standard that we’re all seeking to meet and accomplish?
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: The president of the United States sends out this tweet today suggesting that maybe we should delay the election. We need to delay the election because of the fraud that’s occurring in mail-in voting. And he doesn’t demand to delay the election, obviously, he suggests it with three question marks. And here’s the tweet. He said: “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???” Question mark, question mark, question mark.
So he’s asking, should we delay it? This predictably has blown up the media, blown up the left, and I should say it’s blown up Twitter, naturally. So what is this all about? Well, I have two stories for you here. “CBS News Experiment On Mail-In Voting Ends In Disaster.” The story is from today, from Houston.
“With Democrats across the country pushing mail-in voting over COVID-19 concerns, ‘CBS This Morning’ conducted their own experiment by mailing out mock ballots to fake election offices they set up. The results ‘ends in disaster’, as the Republican National Committee put it. CBS Correspondent Tony Dokoupil reports: For the experiment, a P.O. box was set up to represent a local election office. A few days after the initial ballots were mailed, 100 more were sent. The mock ballots used the same size envelope and same class of mail as real ballots, and even had mock votes folded in to approximate the weight. The biggest difference: real mail-in ballots have a logo that is meant to expedite them. ‘CBS This Morning’ was unable to include those [in] the trial.

“Out of the initial batch mailed a week earlier, 97 out of 100 votes had arrived. Three simulated persons, or 3% of voters, were effectively disenfranchised by mail by giving their ballots a week to arrive. In a close election, 3% could be pivotal. Four days after mailing the second batch of mock ballots, 21% of the votes hadn’t arrived.

“Another problem found by Dokoupil was that the post office initially lost the entire stack of initial ballots. It was later discovered. The Postal Service recommends that ‘voters should mail their return ballots at least one week prior to the due date.’ However, Dokoupil points out that nearly half of all states still allow voters to request ballots less than a week before the election.

More alarming is that when Dokoupil shared the results of the experiment with Philly Commissioner Lisa Deeley, she admitted that the results were actually better than she had expected. Three-percent of ballots lost and she thinks that’s a good thing.”

So CBS sets up an experiment. I don’t know what their thought was. I don’t know what they thought was gonna happen. My guess is that by doing the experiment, they wanted to prove that mail-in ballots are fine, that the post office can deal with it, don’t worry about stuff getting lost and don’t worry about it not being delivered on time and don’t worry about any of that. And the exact opposite was discovered and happened. The results ended in disaster.

So CBS, just to review this again, they set up a P.O. box to represent a local election office. Nothing untoward about that. Everything in this was fake except the attempt to make it real to see if people abiding by the rules and regulations would actually have their votes arrive in time and count.

So after they set up a post office box, a few days after the initial ballots were mailed, a hundred more were sent. The mock ballots used the same size envelope, same class of mail as the real ballots. They even had mock votes. So they had a hundred fake ballots. They threw everything at this test they could. And what they found was that it doesn’t work, that the fake ballots were treated as real, that it doesn’t take much to make fake ballots look like real ballots, it doesn’t take much to make ’em look the same size and weigh the same. It doesn’t take much to make them look as legitimate as the real ballots.

They also found that not every ballot arrived on time. They were all sent on a certain day, but not all of them arrived in time to be legally counted. And you know what’s gonna happen in a situation like that in what we would call “for real”? So if there are ballots that don’t arrive on time and it ends up being reported, you know what’s gonna happen? “It’s not fair. We have to count those ballots. It’s not the voter’s fault. It’s not the voter’s fault that his ballot didn’t arrive in time. It’s disenfranchisement.”

The Democrats will set it up so that no matter what route a fake ballot takes to get where it’s supposed to go in time in the mail, that it will count no matter how late it is. They will able to flood the system with fake ballots, fake votes. And the appeal to emotion, it’s not fair, this is disenfranchisement. And then we’ll hear that most of the votes that didn’t arrive on time happened to be from minority communities. I mean, I can spell this out, I can tell you exactly how this is gonna go now.

It is a recipe for disaster. The Democrats have cooked this thing up because they don’t feel confident that they can win in a traditionally fair and normal election. Same reason early voting was established. Early voting is an opportunity for fraud. And now mail in — by the way, mail-in voting is not absentee. Absentee, that’s a system we’ve got down pat. Absentee has been a voting system that’s been in play for a while. And everybody knows the rules, and the rules are upheld. But mail-in balloting is just a recipe, a purposeful recipe for disaster.

There’s another example here. This is from U.S. News & World Report: “NY Mail-In Voting Deluge Fuels Uncounted Ballots, Confusion –– New York’s quest to keep voters safe from COVID-19 by letting them vote by mail in the June primary has led to big delays in tabulating results, concerns about disenfranchisement.” See, right there it is. Some votes have not arrived. It’s not fair.

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“That’s too bad they didn’t arrive on time. There’s a date certain they’ve gotta be there.

“But they didn’t show up. It’s not the voters’ fault. It’s disenfranchisement.” It’s all so easily predictable. And now because of the way this little trial run in New York has gone, there are questions about whether there will be an even bigger mess in the fall. And this is what Trump is talking about in his tweet: Universal mail-in voting will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent election in history. It will be a great embarrassment.

Mail-in voting has already been a disaster. If you want free and fair elections, then you don’t do mail-in voting. You don’t open up the obvious weak point that this opens up. This is even the AP reporting. The AP is not even trying to cover-up how disastrous this is. Even left-wing establishments have been forced to admit that an accurate and prompt counting is impossible with a flood of mail-in votes.

You know, everybody expects election night counting. Everybody expects election night tabulating. You stay up late, you expect to know who wins elections by the time you go to bed, unless it’s something really close and then okay, you’ll put up with maybe...
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SSTemplar

Veteran Member
This controversy has nothing to do with Trump delaying the election. It does have something to do with paper ballots delaying the election as has been shown in some recent elections.
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm going to vote for Trump. So's my wife. So are our (no longer) kids and their wives. The sad part is, the dims will out vote us because they can vote from the grave, or even hand in multiple ballots several times. As a Constitutional conservative, it's my obligation to vote. The left turns voting into an obscene cheat storm.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Donald "trolling."

Suggest a delay to the election to provoke a response "NO WE CAN'T DELAY - ok we'll forget mail-in voting and do what we've always done."

Dobbin
This. I howled when I read the tweet. POTUS is the master of trolling. He knows the voting date is set in stone in the Constitution and cannot be changed by anyone, he just likes to stir up the Dems. He knew they would take him literally, as usual. The Founding Fathers did not make allowances in the Constitution for circumstances that might make moving the date of the election desirable, such as a natural disaster or a pandemic.

DH and I were speculating today about what would happen if Biden had a stroke or worse within a few days of the election. I think, but am not sure, that the VP candidate does not automatically step up to become the presidential candidate. I think the Dems could name whatever President/VP slate (Hillary?) they want but I also think they cannot delay the election date in that case.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Voter registration reform is critical.

Voting must be IN PERSON at your registered precinct on election day.

And a finger dipped in indelible ink will help negate multiple voting fraud.

TOO LATE to get that done for this elselection however. America, it was nice knowing you.
Break up the voters alphabetically. First third of the alphabet votes over these two days, second third, final third. Indelible ink, all paper votes. Have a bi partisan team with oversight tally every three hours.

Quite simple really. Keep a running tally at every precinct, with the votes counted during that tally. Can b checked at any time. Bring in accountants. Easy Peasy, no excuses. Must vote in person, unless military. They need to vote three weeks early somtheir votes are tally'd in time.

So simple...but. Hard to use fraud, so we go electronic.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Ever watch a shell game being played? Not playing yourself, just watching.

The first time or two it is interesting. After that it gets boring fast. Three years worth of shell games? Get on with it already.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Trump is Brilliant. No question. He plays those people every time. Hell it even upsets us trumpsters when we dont quiet get where he is coming from.
Right???
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Incredible discussion on this topic over at Vox Day's forum:


FRIDAY, JULY 31, 2020
Setting them up

I don't know exactly what he has in mind here, but it should turn out to be more than a little entertaining:
With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
- Donald J. Trump
I'll be very surprised if he doesn't turn out to have had something up his sleeve this entire time. It's not like Creepy Joe is going to beat him anyhow. The polls are totally meaningless at this point. I can still remember when Dukakis was supposedly leading Bush, 55-38, on July 26, 1988, prior to losing 53.4 to 45.6. That was a 24.8-point change between the end of July and the beginning of November.

Democrat Joe Biden maintains a seven point national lead over President Donald Trump among registered voters for the November 2020 election, 48 percent to 41 percent.

Note that Biden's putative lead is ten points less than Dukakis's nominal 17-point lead. So, we're still looking at a Trumpslide, perhaps even a historic one.

Labels: politics, polls
POSTED BY VD @ 7/31/2020 06:55:00 AM
20 COMMENTS:
1. Silent DracoJuly 31, 2020 7:10 AM
One card up the sleeve could be to turn contact tracing back on the left. Show a government photo ID to vote. No ID? No vote. Can't add you to official trace list, so you're not getting a chance to kill Aunt Sally the poll worker and walk away.
2. LazarusJuly 31, 2020 7:16 AM
Three question marks???

Who's he asking?
3. Shane BradmanJuly 31, 2020 7:25 AM
Once again, Joe Biden went somewhere to give a speech and forgot where he was. That's not presidential energy.
4. Daniele Grech PereiraJuly 31, 2020 7:29 AM
Given the sheer stupidity of the fraudulent poll numbers, is it possible that Trump *doesn't* have something up his sleeve?
5. ShimshonJuly 31, 2020 7:31 AM
Trump does sound like he's telegraphing something, or floating a trial balloon.

Given that the 2016 election could have turned on five counties in three states, they, and by they I mean both sides, have the ability to commit or detect and inhibit fraud down to a science. I mean, engineering. Well, to our side, I suspect it's engineering, and to their side, science (that is, magic). They got away with it for so long, because there was no actual opponent.
6. Dan in GeorgiaJuly 31, 2020 7:32 AM
If Trump decides to only allow citizens with Social Security Numbers to vote, just like that, we'd have national voter ID. It'd only be a matter of updating the present SS cards with date of birth, height & weight, and a picture. They could encode the SS# in a QR or bar code. But we'd have to do it pretty fast.
7. KPKinSunnyPhiladelphiaJuly 31, 2020 7:36 AM
This tweet is classic Trump in so many ways. He gets unbelievable mileage out of this one, as he so often does.

1. Timing -- Yesterday, when it was announced that US GDP contracted by over thirty percent, the median didn't gasp in horror, and run endless column inches about how the economy has been ruined....they instead were all aflutter about if the Orange Man Hitler was gong to delay the election (which is about as likely as our esteemed blog proprietor playing for Juventus). He waved the meaty bone at them, tossed ot 15 yards in the other direction, and the pack took off.

2. Corner painting -- Heck, if you get the other side to tut-tut that the election can't be delayed...then can you argue that schools can be delayed? Normal living can be delayed?

3. Raising awareness of the difference between absentee ballots and mail in voting -- Already Ohio and Florida have said no to mail in voting, two key states Trump has to win. The two governor there will work to max out absentee balloting. Moreover, if governors like Whitmer go for mail in, the suits will come thick and fast.

Finally Democrats are going to have a turnout problem, and they know it. Biden doesn't excite the Negros. White lefties will remain catatonic with panic porn, thinking if they go outside without a hazmat suit, they will die. Mail in voting is their only slim chance they have, and the GE will expose its issues every chance he gets.
8. Dark glasses WoodyJuly 31, 2020 7:38 AM
Ah Joe, the Gif that keeps on giving.
Senile evil, Speak servile, Hearing loss.
9. RobertDWoodJuly 31, 2020 7:46 AM
Is this an example of Trump moving the window or making a wedge among his enemies?

He sees a nationwide reluctance to gather socially. He also knows anything he proposes will be rejected by the Orange Man Bad world. To get to his real drive (holding the election) he'll make the head fake of no election to get the predictable backlash to support an election. Then the cognitive dissonance and gnashing of teeth intensifies among his enemies.
10. 351wslJuly 31, 2020 7:51 AM
My guess is that he suspected a Democrat push to delay the elections, maybe because they'd like to swap Biden out for medical reasons, and now he has the Democrats on record saying that's impossible.
11. Damelon BrinnJuly 31, 2020 8:06 AM
My thought was that he's cutting off one of their options. I expected the Democrats to pursue a delay, especially after the idea was floated in the media the other day. It would set up the usual narrative: Democrats want to do the reasonable, fair thing, while Republicans are mean sticklers for the rules. The whole thing would be framed as inhumane Republicans forcing voters, especially poor minorities, to choose between health and democracy.

Now Democrats can't raise the idea without agreeing with him, which is basically impossible for them at this point. Especially since he called out fraud as the reason for delay, since Democrats insist vote fraud doesn't happen--except that one time when the Russians did it, but definitely not internal fraud. So now they have to *insist* that the election happen on schedule, which gives them no extra time to replace Biden or pull off a coup.

Or he's just screwing around, and that was the media-triggering laser-pointer game for the day.
12. Pencil MaestroJuly 31, 2020 8:20 AM
Safely vote? So no voting before the vaccine?
13. JCJuly 31, 2020 8:34 AM
The polls were the same in 2016 and yet there are still people being black-pilled about it this time. I guess the demographic shift could have changed things since but that does nothing to explain why the polls were way out last time. The average voter in America has no way to openly do anything political except vote. I am more confident of a 2020 Trumpslide now than I was when I bought the t-shirt years ago.

14. Brett bakerJuly 31, 2020 8:46 AM
A couple of weeks ago, NPR was reporting Putin's constitutional changes were illegitimate because of "mail-in ballots".
15. Bernard KorzeniewiczJuly 31, 2020 8:46 AM
This is OT but very important:

The Bielorus president stated:
The WHO offered him 90 mil $ bribe for ... the lockdown of his country.
THAN the IMF offered him $940 000 000.
This is the officiel statement of the Bielorusian president.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEN6mGhhHs

16. ShimshonJuly 31, 2020 8:53 AM
RBG will likely live through the election.
17. thechortlingJuly 31, 2020 8:54 AM
AF Branco identifies Biden campaign leads

<a href="https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/07-biden-google-li-600.jpg> https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/07-biden-google-li-600.jpg </a>
18. Dan in GeorgiaJuly 31, 2020 8:55 AM
Trump floated the election delay trial balloon right after Dems were talking about how, with mail-in ballots, we may not know who won for days or weeks. Like in 2000.

Trump is masterfully conflating this with delaying the election. This was meant for the Dem base, not us.

And no one talked about the 30% gdp drop. Win-win.
19. ChristopherJuly 31, 2020 9:03 AM
What if he made a bunch of arrests of congressman, senators, maybe even a supreme court justice, a week or two before the election? Aside from the hysterical screaming, there might also be some calm opposition voices saying, 'Ok if they're guilty their guilty --let's give the investigators and prosecutors the benefit of the doubt. But, come on, this is nuts how big this is. And the timing. Let's just delay the election a few weeks or a couple of months while we get some sort of handle on this, check it out at least at the preliminary level.'

If this theory --I'm just brainstorming, if I had to I would rate some of the other comments as more likely. But if this theory holds any water it might be worth noting any 'dogs that don't bark,' any politicians who are completely silent on this latest from Trump. Of course, they might be silent because they know or think it's the usual Trump 'painting' etc. So more interesting would be contrast: a politician who's been blabbing or screaming for four years but suddenly goes silent now.
20. Dan in GeorgiaJuly 31, 2020 9:08 AM
Interesting that Trump volunteered that he’d be voting for himself absentee in Florida. A lot of snow-birds use Florida and Arizona as their permanent residence. He’s distinguishing mail-in ballots from absentee voting, while encouraging his supporters who won’t be home to vote, to vote absentee. Smart.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
The success of any confidence game depends on the mark playing on until he is picked clean.

So, who is the mark in DJT's confidence game?

If you are not sufficiently skeptical of your own skepticism, you cannot truly call yourself a skeptic.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Sorry, got to respond this.

You are intellectually dishonest and disgust me. You have to know that just sending out absentee ballots in mass is a recipe for fraud. People requesting absentee ballots is perfectly fine, which you must know is not what this is about.

I was fine with you spewing your babble, until you brought up the constitution. You neither care about the constitution or stick with it, you disgust me.
You know what disgusts me? Uniformed internet trolls who speak without knowing.
Voting procedures are a state function and not a function of the federal government as long as the voting rights act is complied with.
All freaking states allow mail in voting. If you are talking about automatically mailing ballots to all eligible voters, that is different and IIRC only done in 5 states. Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, Colorado and Utah.
All except Utah are pretty much liberal democrat and will not be voting for Trump anyway. Utah is just weird and perverted in most everything. Most of those states don't have many electoral votes.


My state is Florida. Most Rep party officials acknowledge that if Trump loses Florida, his chances of winning are very low. 30% of us here vote by mail and it hasn't been a damn problem. Most of our problems here have been with in person voting, hanging chads and such.

Most people here are running their mouths and don't do a damn thing except sit behind a keyboard and bitch. Some of you should try getting off your ass and going down to the local Republican headquarters and actually doing some work to make the country better.
But, just like the American Revolution, the majority just sit on their ass and insult others and complain.
I've worked at the Republican HQ since before I retired. I stand with signs and wave at voters outside polling places. I have gone door to door handing out brochures for candidates and helping housebound voters get registered and show them how to request absentee ballots.
I helped get Trump elected. What the hell have you done except sound off against people who actually walk the walk. How many damn signs do you have in your yard. How many neighbors have you convinced to put signs in their yard? How many doors have you knocked on. That's the kind of shit that disgusts me.
Seriously, I've been doing actual work for the Republicans since 2008, instead of just sitting home and running my mouth on the net.
This will be the last year I'll be working for the Republican party. In fact after this election, I am going to register as an Independent. I'm tired of being demonized by liberals and taken for granted by conservatives. Go out and get your own voters to vote conservative from now on. See how your inability to discuss anything rationally works out for you in the long run.
As of May 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 40% as Independent. You do the math, and see how successful you are at winning people over to your point of view with your attitude. Seriously people like yourself and some others here have been our biggest obstacle in recruiting new voters for the Republican party.

I'll tell you another thing. At local Repub HQ, you know, the people who actually work to get Trump elected instead of bitching on the web, the biggest majority of us wish Trump would install a filter between his brain and his mouth.
Fact is, he doesn't have one. He says and tweets a lot of things that drive potential voters to stay home and make our job of turning out voters more difficult.
Voters he needs to win the election.

If he wants to raise the issue about mass mailing ballots to all voters then raise the potential fraud issue instead of trying to unconstitutionally suggest rescheduling the elections. :shk: That was just stupid.
He knows he can't do it, and everyone else knows he can't do it, so saying it just makes him look stupid and gives the dems another campaign commercial to energize their voters.
It might make you feel good, but it hurts Trump's chances. Too bad you can't see beyond your emotions to realize that.
 

Catnip

Veteran Member
Same old, same old. It seems to me that all during the 2016 election run, he said over and over and over that the election was rigged.
And it was rigged. Veritas proved it. Fortunately, Americans rose to the occasion and voted for Trump. They knew Hillary was bad news. Hopefully, we will do the same this time around because we know the U.S. will become a communist country if Trump loses.
 

All4liberty

Senior Member
You know what disgusts me? Uniformed internet trolls who speak without knowing.

This is what you said that I responded to.

"Almost all states have allowed absentee voting for decades.
Hell, the President and his family vote by mail.
I guess it's ok for him but nobody else :shk:

Me, I'll stick with the constitution."


While I appreciate your efforts with the election, you statements above deserved my response.

Be honest, Trump's tweet very clearly states that absentee voting is fine. You ran with the media spin "Trump wants to delay the election". Knowing that Trump wasn't wanting to delay but is trying to prevent voting fraud, which would make all your efforts worthless.

I am glad to hear that you are a patriot, sorry I misjudged your motives.
 

Mikiekimi

I’m just here for the gasoline...
You know what disgusts me? Uniformed internet trolls who speak without knowing.
Voting procedures are a state function and not a function of the federal government as long as the voting rights act is complied with.
All freaking states allow mail in voting. If you are talking about automatically mailing ballots to all eligible voters, that is different and IIRC only done in 5 states. Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, Colorado and Utah.
All except Utah are pretty much liberal democrat and will not be voting for Trump anyway. Utah is just weird and perverted in most everything. Most of those states don't have many electoral votes.


My state is Florida. Most Rep party officials acknowledge that if Trump loses Florida, his chances of winning are very low. 30% of us here vote by mail and it hasn't been a damn problem. Most of our problems here have been with in person voting, hanging chads and such.

Most people here are running their mouths and don't do a damn thing except sit behind a keyboard and bitch. Some of you should try getting off your ass and going down to the local Republican headquarters and actually doing some work to make the country better.
But, just like the American Revolution, the majority just sit on their ass and insult others and complain.
I've worked at the Republican HQ since before I retired. I stand with signs and wave at voters outside polling places. I have gone door to door handing out brochures for candidates and helping housebound voters get registered and show them how to request absentee ballots.
I helped get Trump elected. What the hell have you done except sound off against people who actually walk the walk. How many damn signs do you have in your yard. How many neighbors have you convinced to put signs in their yard? How many doors have you knocked on. That's the kind of shit that disgusts me.
Seriously, I've been doing actual work for the Republicans since 2008, instead of just sitting home and running my mouth on the net.
This will be the last year I'll be working for the Republican party. In fact after this election, I am going to register as an Independent. I'm tired of being demonized by liberals and taken for granted by conservatives. Go out and get your own voters to vote conservative from now on. See how your inability to discuss anything rationally works out for you in the long run.
As of May 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 40% as Independent. You do the math, and see how successful you are at winning people over to your point of view with your attitude. Seriously people like yourself and some others here have been our biggest obstacle in recruiting new voters for the Republican party.

I'll tell you another thing. At local Repub HQ, you know, the people who actually work to get Trump elected instead of bitching on the web, the biggest majority of us wish Trump would install a filter between his brain and his mouth.
Fact is, he doesn't have one. He says and tweets a lot of things that drive potential voters to stay home and make our job of turning out voters more difficult.
Voters he needs to win the election.

If he wants to raise the issue about mass mailing ballots to all voters then raise the potential fraud issue instead of trying to unconstitutionally suggest rescheduling the elections. :shk: That was just stupid.
He knows he can't do it, and everyone else knows he can't do it, so saying it just makes him look stupid and gives the dems another campaign commercial to energize their voters.
It might make you feel good, but it hurts Trump's chances. Too bad you can't see beyond your emotions to realize that.
Finally a voice of reason...
 
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