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Donald Trump is OWNED by Every Bank on Wall Street

By: Leon H. Wolf (Diary) | January 22nd, 2016 at 09:15 AM

Goldman Sachs once gave Ted Cruz’s campaign a $1.43 million loan. His campaign also got a loan of less than $500,000 from Citibank. According to Donald Trump, in a claim that has been repeated roughly a billion times, that means THEY OWN HIM. Even though, as far as I can tell, all or part of these loans have been repaid.

As I reported yesterday, at various times Donald Trump has had hundreds of millions of dollars in loans from Citibank and Goldman, some of which have been repaid, some of which were discharged in bankruptcy when Trump’s Altantic City casino went belly up. By Trump’s own standard, Citibank and Goldman own him, too.

But of course, it’s much worse than that for Trump. As a twitter user pointed out, according to Trump’s most recent financial disclosures, he has hundreds of millions of dollars in loans from virtually every bank on Wall Street. Here is a copy of the form.

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As you can see, Trump is in hock to a veritable who’s who of Wall Street banks, as one would probably expect of a person who makes a good portion of his living doing New York City real estate deals. The bare minimum amount displayed here is at least $250 million in loans, although of course it is probably much, much more than that. Trump has four loans listed here that are “over $50 million” and of course, those might go all the way up to a billion each or beyond.

Now, no one knows how much Trump is worth, and his own word is definitely not to be believed on that subject, but it is clear that some very significant amount of it is tied up as collateral for these loans. Nor would it really matter if Trump announced he were going to pay these all back tomorrow, at least by his standard.

I would frankly be surprised if someone of Trump’s business profile has not at one time had an enormous outstanding loan from every bank of any decent size in the country, in fact.

If Ted Cruz is owned by Goldman Sachs and Citibank because they once gave him a $1 million loan (even though it is completely or mostly paid back), then Donald Trump is definitely owned by not only Citibank and Goldman Sachs, but also by every name on this list.

If America can’t trust Ted Cruz to protect them from Goldman and Citibank (although why any of us need protecting from Citibank, I do not know), then how can anyone in America trust Donald Trump to protect them from literally every bank?
 

Be Well

may all be well
I have no idea about this and don't grok financial dealings unless explained simply by someone who isn't trying to prove a point (which may or may not be true). Just keep in mind the Redstate HATES Trump more than they hate rabies.
 

Kathy in FL

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Trump probably lends banks as much as he borrows from them. That's the nature of the how the very wealthy work. It isn't about tax deferred income, it is about finding tax free income. If you have a net worth in excess of $900,000 you can get access to some unique types of incoming earning opportunities. One way is through life insurance. I'm not going to explain it but basically a bank is paying you a dividend in addition to paying for a life insurance policy for you ... for allowing them to borrow X amount of dollars. Yes, it is legal. Yes, your principle is guaranteed. You can find a fairly simple explanation for this type of investment at http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2014/03/04/xxx-how-to-get-tax-free-retirement-income-with-lif
 

Be Well

may all be well
Trump probably lends banks as much as he borrows from them. That's the nature of the how the very wealthy work. It isn't about tax deferred income, it is about finding tax free income. If you have a net worth in excess of $900,000 you can get access to some unique types of incoming earning opportunities. One way is through life insurance. I'm not going to explain it but basically a bank is paying you a dividend in addition to paying for a life insurance policy for you ... for allowing them to borrow X amount of dollars. Yes, it is legal. Yes, your principle is guaranteed. You can find a fairly simple explanation for this type of investment at http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2014/03/04/xxx-how-to-get-tax-free-retirement-income-with-lif

So it looks as though Redstate is wrong. Surprise, surprise. What is a wealthy person supposed to do with it? Buy millions of $$ of gold coins and bury in their back yard?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
So it looks as though Redstate is wrong. Surprise, surprise. What is a wealthy person supposed to do with it? Buy millions of $$ of gold coins and bury in their back yard?

Of course they're wrong, they're blithering idiots that most probably flunked their college level economics classes and have no clue as to how the hell the real world works!

and they are counting on the mouth breathers to hang on their every word as if it was written by God Almighty Himself.
 

Mixin

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Well, I guess that's the end of Trump.

Thank you, Leon H. Wolf and RedState for your exposé; no one would have even suspected that a world-wide multi-billion dollar business would have taken out loans with banks.
 

West

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Well, I guess that's the end of Trump.

Thank you, Leon H. Wolf and RedState for your exposé; no one would have even suspected that a world-wide multi-billion dollar business would have taken out loans with banks.

Yeah, I get your point. However the majority of brain dead (low informed/government educated) thinks government just makes the monies and banks just distribute/dole it out as one giant good old white boys club, that they call "the man". OTOH, it does kinda work that way now days, if it's political. And now days most every big deal is political, bail outed, mandated, or subsidized.
 

Kathy in FL

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Trump doesn't owe that money, Trump Inc. owes it.

Yes but many such loans have personal guarantees attached to them. A lot of banks have life insurance policies on their larger/largest customers as a way to make sure that they get their loans repaid, even if those loans are in the name of the LLC or other corporation. It's SOP but one that not a lot of people are aware of it they don't own a business, etc. There is a lot of bad and/or missing information that the so-called low information voter thinks they know.
 
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Buick Electra

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If you'd read his book, The Art of The Deal, and looked into his other business dealings to build building and golf courses, you would see they were loans to build things! (Redstate - a bunch of MORONS). Trump specifically states in The Art of The Deal what banks he went to for loans to build his buildings, at REALLY LOW interest rates!

This is like college kids and interns TAKING OUT LOANS to graduate and become doctors. (GASP!!!) This is the equivalent of Red State stating, "Donald Trump uses toilet paper to wipe his butt!!!!! WOAH!!! Whoda thunk! :rolleyes:
 
Yes but many such loans have personal guarantees attached to them. A lot of banks have life insurance policies on their larger/largest customers as a way to make sure that they get their loans repaid, even if those loans are in the name of the LLC or other corporation. It's SOP but one that not a lot of people are aware of it they don't own a business, etc. There is a lot of bad and/or missing information that the so-called low information voter thinks they know.


In the business world this is called "picking gnat shit out of pepper". Standard business procedure that applies to all owners of multi-million dollar companies.
 
If you'd read his book, The Art of The Deal, and looked into his other business dealings to build building and golf courses, you would see they were loans to build things! (Redstate - a bunch of MORONS). Trump specifically states in The Art of The Deal what banks he went to for loans to build his buildings, at REALLY LOW interest rates!

This is like college kids and interns TAKING OUT LOANS to graduate and become doctors. (GASP!!!) This is the equivalent of Red State stating, "Donald Trump uses toilet paper to wipe his butt!!!!! WOAH!!! Whoda thunk! :rolleyes:

Exactly!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Did y'all see that SNL trotted out, or shall I say trolled out, Tina Fay last night to play Palin endorsing Trump??? Again this is where the low information voters get their information.
 

JF&P

Deceased
Well I don't see the media or TRUMPs opposition picking this up....and running with it. (Hello?)

As I suspected, its a NON-issue.
 
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