Does anyone think it's odd that Palin is decrying Socialism....

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FarmerJohn

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Does anyone think it's odd that Alaska Gov. Palin is railing about the suspected socialist tendencies of Senator Obama when she's the governor of the the state with the most socialistic practices?

I'm referring to Alaska's recent history of receiving more than twice as much in federal spending as it's citizens pay in federal taxes as well as its practice to laying huge taxes on a few oil companies for the benefit of all Alaskans, to the detriment of the rest of the American people who have to (indirectly) pay those taxes. That's what is referred to as "welfare" in the rest of the country.

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Fred

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Still odder...

However, Palin does not believe that the United States government bailing out banks is socialism, “I believe that there are those measures that had to be taken by Congress to shore up not only the housing market but the credit markets also to make sure that that’s not frozen, so that our small businesses have opportunities to borrow and that was the purpose, of course, and that part of the bailout and the shoring of the banks.”
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mbo

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Uhhh, I gotta feeling that if the FEDERAL govenrment is doling out dollars, it's the governor's job to grab as much as possible for their state, regardless of how conservative or liberal they are.

Unless of course they prefer to secede. The taxpayers pay taxes.


Duh. Your argument lacks logic.


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Jubilation T. Cornpone

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FarmerJohn said:
Does anyone think it's odd that Alaska Gov. Palin is railing about the suspected socialist tendencies of Senator Obama when she's the governor of the the state with the most socialistic practices?

I'm referring to Alaska's recent history of receiving more than twice as much in federal spending as it's citizens pay in federal taxes as well as its practice to laying huge taxes on a few oil companies for the benefit of all Alaskans, to the detriment of the rest of the American people who have to (indirectly) pay those taxes. That's what is referred to as "welfare" in the rest of the country.

FJ
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Baloney.
I wish my stupid governor was that smart.

She's a rose among the thorns, and I only pray
she makes it to the White House.
 
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As far as Oil Taxes are considered this was decided LONG before she became old enough to vote. It's how the State is sharing the resource depletion with residents.....A MODEL that too few states are following.
 
Amaryllis

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Dang! MBO beat me to it.

There's a big difference between STATE and FEDERAL socialistic practices. Most people don't mind the state providing healthcare, food, housing, etc. as long as it's temporary and needed.
 
BigBadBossyDog

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FarmerJohn said:
Does anyone think it's odd that Alaska Gov. Palin is railing about the suspected socialist tendencies of Senator Obama when she's the governor of the the state with the most socialistic practices?

I'm referring to Alaska's recent history of receiving more than twice as much in federal spending as it's citizens pay in federal taxes as well as its practice to laying huge taxes on a few oil companies for the benefit of all Alaskans, to the detriment of the rest of the American people who have to (indirectly) pay those taxes. That's what is referred to as "welfare" in the rest of the country.

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I find it odd that there are still people out there who would vote for Obama/Biden.

Nothing Mrs. Palin does strikes me as odd.

She inspires me like I haven't been inspired in years.

She gives me a tingle down my leg.
 
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FarmerJohn

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How is state government socialism different from federal socialism?

Amaryllis said:
Dang! MBO beat me to it.

There's a big difference between STATE and FEDERAL socialistic practices. Most people don't mind the state providing healthcare, food, housing, etc. as long as it's temporary and needed.
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What about the funding of the "Alaska Permanent Fund" supported by taxes on oil companies is temporary?

How is state government socialism different from federal socialism (not that I'm in favor of either)?

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Wardogs

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FarmerJohn said:
What about the funding of the "Alaska Permanent Fund" supported by taxes on oil companies is temporary?

How is state government socialism different from federal socialism (not that I'm in favor of either)?

FJ
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The Alaska Permanent Fund is not a "tax". It is a royalty paid to the citizens of Alaska for the removal of one of their resources. It applies to State owned land only. Federal land in Alaska charges royalties also that go to the Federal Government.
http://www.pfd.state.ak.us/

The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established fund, managed by a semi-independent corporation, established by Alaska in 1976. Shortly after the oil from Alaska’s North Slope began flowing to market through the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System, the Permanent Fund was created by an amendment to the constitution of the U.S. state of Alaska to be an investment for at least 25% of proceeds from some minerals [such as oil and gas] sale or royalties. The Fund does not include either property taxes on oil company property nor income tax from oil corporations, so the minimum 25% deposit is closer to 11% if those sources were also considered. The Alaska Permanent Fund sets aside a certain share of oil revenues to continue benefiting current and all future generations of Alaskans. Many citizens also believed that the legislature too quickly and too inefficiently spent the $900 million bonus the state got in 1969 after leasing out the oil fields. This belief spurred a desire to put some oil revenues out of direct political control.

Other oil producing states should follow suit.
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Satanta

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Interesting question and I will keep reading. Now here is a question for you:



FarmerJohn said:
How is state government socialism different from federal socialism (not that I'm in favor of either)?



FJ
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Do you support Obama and Biden?
 
BigBadBossyDog

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Wardogs said:
She is "odd"

She is a real conservative woman. Strong, capable and without a victim mentality.

As such, she represents a real threat to liberals.

Thus, the ceaseless attacks on her.

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She's not odd. She's unusual. For the reasons wardogs said. She not only represents a real threat to liberals, but also to weak people.

Her speeches will shock you out of your apathy, and America needs that, big time!
 
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G-Man said:
I'll pick this thread back up in a couple of weeks ;)

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Easy way out. Seems like the standard Liberal response to duck and run.

And I thought you were a new breed that could actually formulate sentences instead of reading them off pre-written quoates.
 
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The "Sociallliiiist!!!" and "Commmiiiieeeee" labels wore out long ago. I don't care who they're tossed against; Palin or Obama. Either way they're passe.


BBD, be careful that isn't tinkle down your leg!:lol:
 
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mbo

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FarmerJohn said:
What about the funding of the "Alaska Permanent Fund" supported by taxes on oil companies is temporary?

How is state government socialism different from federal socialism (not that I'm in favor of either)?

FJ
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read what I wrote


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Kalliope

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BigBadBossyDog said:
I find it odd that there are still people out there who would vote for Obama/Biden.

Nothing Mrs. Palin does strikes me as odd.

She inspires me like I haven't been inspired in years.

She gives me a tingle down my leg.
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Does that include her and her huband's giving of depositions today in St Louis?
Can't say that my govenor having to give a deposition in regards to a civil or criminal investigation inspires me too much. But hey, you may trust your govenor more not to be investigated.
 
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