Conservative media heavyweights at war over Donald Trump

fairywell

Veteran Member
Hah, they are all losing it.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/31/media/conservative-media-limbaugh-beck-hannity-trump/index.html

Conservative media friendships and alliances are breaking apart as Donald Trump's run for president roils the Republican Party.

This conservative media crackup has been happening for months, but this week it was broadcast on the airwaves like never before, with a verbal war of words involving Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, three of America's most popular talk radio hosts.

Hannity, one of Trump's biggest boosters in the media, called out his counterparts for failing to support Trump and the GOP. He said on Tuesday that he'll hold figures like Beck, columnist Jonah Goldberg and the conservative publication National Review responsible if Hillary Clinton beats Trump.

"You own Hillary Clinton," Hannity said to them.

Prominent anti-Trump commentator Bill Kristol tweeted this response: "Hannity has become Lady Macbeth: Gradually becoming more unhinged as the man in whom he believes falters."

Beck responded differently, by saying there's no "holy war" going on and that he agrees with Hannity that Clinton "is a disaster."

So what's happening?
"All of us feel like we're trapped in a barn fire," Beck said, "so we don't know what to do."

The fracturing within conservative media circles, between Trump loyalists and opponents, mirrors the ongoing GOP civil war that Trump's candidacy has intensified.

It is triggering conversations that have rarely, if ever, been had before -- with some conservative commentators openly questioning the value of Fox News while others accuse Limbaugh of betraying his listeners.

On Monday Limbaugh, generally believed to be the most popular conservative talk show host in the country, was confronted by a caller about Trump's muddled message on deportations.

"I never took him seriously on this!" Limbaugh said.
"10 million people did," the caller, Rick in L.A., responded.

Rick told Limbaugh that "you that you are doing a disservice to all of us Republican primary voters who didn't vote for Trump, that are struggling whether or not to vote for Trump."
Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic said this back-and-forth was "the quintessential illustration" of how Limbaugh betrayed his listeners, by cheering on Trump instead of approaching the candidate skeptically.

The call went viral; Beck on Wednesday dubbed it "the call heard round the world."

But Limbaugh is off for the rest of the week, so he most likely won't be weighing in any further.

Other conservative media heavyweights are with Hannity and Limbaugh on the pro-Trump side. Radio host and Fox News contributor Laura Ingraham, for instance, is reportedly advising Trump during debate prep sessions. Ingraham has not confirmed those reports.

She tweeted Wednesday that sitting on the sidelines, as advocated by some anti-Trump conservatives, "will help Hillary."

Hannity has also acknowledged giving Trump advice. Former Fox News chief Roger Ailes has also been counseling the GOP nominee. And Breitbart News chairman Steve Bannon is now on leave from that job to be the Trump campaign's CEO.

This "melding of the so-called conservative commentary class with the Republican presidential nominee's campaign lacks precedent," Commentary's Noah Rothman wrote on Tuesday. "Some of the right's most prominent radio and television hosts and media executives serve not merely to provide the nominee with a stage on which to disseminate his message but as advisors crafting that message."

Critics of these commentators have nicknamed Fox News and right-wing radio the "conservative entertainment complex" and argued that it hurts the GOP.
David Frum and Joe Scarborough advanced this argument shortly after Mitt Romney lost the presidency in 2012.

The idea is back with a vengeance this summer.

Former Reagan and George H. W. Bush aide Bruce Bartlett, who is highly critical of the GOP, tweeted Wednesday, "The right-wing media are irrelevant, politically, because they only preach to the right-wing choir. Not one is aimed at non-right wingers."

And on Tuesday National Review's David French wrote that Fox is "killing the conservative movement" by providing a "comfortable conservative cocoon."

"Appearing on Fox can create an alluring but illusory fame, and in seeking it above all else, some of our best minds inadvertently limit their own influence," he wrote. "I don't resent Fox's existence, but I lament its effect on our movement. It's time to leave the cocoon."
 

Doomer Doug

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The RINO TURDS and their elite media and political pundit class are now hearing the sound of the advancing peasants with pitchforks.

We don't care what the scum elite thinks anymore. The lot of you clowns will be like Nazi Party members in July of 1945. Hitler who? LOL You have betrayed the American people for the last several decades. The National Review will have twelve people buying their magazine in 2017. Who is going to read the New York Times, or watch CNN in 2017.

You are hearing the sound of your doom you fools.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
Fox News is NOT "conservative." They may talk at being anti-Hillary but they are all bought-and-paid-for shills, doing the bidding of the elite that own them.

I have NEVER heard Rush says he "supports" Trump. Yes, he'll laugh and give Trump kudos on some of Trump's attacks, but I've listened to Rush long enough to KNOW that he talks out both sides of his mouth when it comes to Trump. He'll say 1 positive thing, then 10 negative reasons why Trump will lose, thus giving the Trump listeners fits of despondency.

For all his whack-a-doodleness and mis-guided Cruz adorning, not to mention is own 'prophet-complex,' I do give Beck five stars for at least coming right out and saying he will never support Trump. At least we CLEARLY KNOW where Beck stands....on this issue.

Though Hannity 'says' he supports Trump, I don't think he really does. I think Hannity "supports" thinking what he might be able to change Trump into. Well, that and his ratings.

For as much as I loathe Bill Kristol's twisted misconception of "conservative," again, here is another guy I give credit to for making it plain he will never vote for Trump.

Lastly, this article is laughable as there is no such thing as TRUE "conservative MAINSTREAM media!" The word 'conservative' today is now code word for "globalism."
 

fredkc

Retired Class Clown
Conservative media friendships and alliances are breaking apart as Donald Trump's run for president roils the Republican Party.

This conservative media crackup has been happening for months, but this week it was broadcast on the airwaves like never before, with a verbal war of words involving Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, three of America's most popular talk radio hosts.

Hannity, one of Trump's biggest boosters in the media, called out his counterparts for failing to support Trump and the GOP. He said on Tuesday that he'll hold figures like Beck, columnist Jonah Goldberg and the conservative publication National Review responsible if Hillary Clinton beats Trump.

"You own Hillary Clinton," Hannity said to them.

Prominent anti-Trump commentator Bill Kristol tweeted this response: "Hannity has become Lady Macbeth: Gradually becoming more unhinged as the man in whom he believes falters."
You got 3 kinds of Republicans, these days:
1. People who will vote the party, no matter what. If the name ends in an "r", that's who they'll vote for. The party can forget about them. They're a given. Besides getting them to consider the values, or implications of a candidate is beyond their thinking.

2. Genuine ideological conservatives. These folk have been slowly disenchanted, and sidelined by what the party has become. I think most stay out of habit.

3. The Noe-Cons, and the folk who support them. The empire builders. They never were conservative at all. Most of the key ideological folk bolted from "The Bid D" in the late 70's and 80's, because, for their purposes, the Democrats were spending the money in all the wrong places.

Group 3 is anti-Trump, almost to a man, because he doesn't answer to the right people, and won't further their goals. Even Obama is better than Trump, for them. Incompetent, but he's followed their plan. But...

Hillary is their girl! She not only answers to the same people, has the same goals, she is openly ruthless, and quite vicious. "She'll do".

The Neo-Cons have done the bidding of the Banksters, and globalist oligarchs, thinking that, "owning" the means, they'll co-opt the results of this mess. Unfortunately, making friends with a lion by throwing him meat, is a bit trickier than that. To this end, the Neo's have hollowed out the US, and used its people as cannon fodder.

The folk behind all this just smile. The weaker the US gets, the better the global alternative will look to them.

Might be a good thing for the Republican party, in the end. Shake out this pack of mongrels, and get back to the basics of what it once stood for.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
The RINOS are destroying Trump, pretty obvious to me, a question for RINOS, why don't you become Democrats............
 

TerryK

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Beck can say whatever he wants. He's on a different delusional trip each day. He is as close to certifiable as you can get.
Only consistent thing he does is every single damn day, is to always compare Trump to a Hitler type strongman.
The man is obsessed with his hatred of Trump.
 

TerryK

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The GOP needs to pay attention to this graph. It shows they have lost their way. Even more so than the Democrats.
The rise in Independents is something that didn't just happened. Some Dems left the party, but according to Pew, even more Republicans left the GOP.
Republicans, especially the GOPe need to wise up and change or they will never when another national election.
Independents are going to determine the result of this election.

This graph is the writing on the wall for the GOP to read and heed.

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