GOV/MIL Congress takes its first step toward killing the military draft

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Though the article is talking about scrapping "the Draft", the key sentence with regards to what may actually be going on is the second with the comment regarding "...instructions to examine the Selective Service program's viability and possible “alternatives” as part of its review of the annual defense authorization bill...". The devil is always in the details......I'm guessing with the current state of the world that the current system is going to stay and that "upgraded alternative" is going to be kept cocked and locked.....


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http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/24/ndaa-hasc-selective-service-draft/83400482/

Congress takes its first step toward killing the military draft

Leo Shane III, Military Times 9:20 a.m. EDT April 24, 2016
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The military draft may be headed for the scrap heap.

The House Armed Services Committee will include instructions to examine the Selective Service program's viability and possible “alternatives” as part of its review of the annual defense authorization bill next week, staffers confirmed on Friday.

The move comes following months of hand-wringing over whether women will be forced to register for the draft as part of the military's plans to open combat jobs to all troops regardless of gender.


MILITARYTIMES
Military leaders: Register women for draft


A bipartisan group of House lawmakers — several of whom sit on the committee — has already offered legislation to abolish the Selective Service System, calling it an outdated vestige of military history.

Committee officials said the authorization bill language is not geared toward keeping or eliminating the Selective Service system, but reviewing the cost and operation of a program that hasn’t been used to fill the ranks since 1973.

The agency's activities cost taxpayers roughly $23 million each year, and a 2012 Government Accountability Office report questioned whether the system could even provide a list of draftees to the Defense Department if called upon to do so.


MILITARYTIMES
Questions, frustration as women prepare to join combat units


Meanwhile, military officials over the last two decades have repeatedly downplayed the idea of reviving the military draft, saying today’s all-volunteer force is the most highly trained and disciplined in American history.

While returning to the draft could connect more Americans to the armed forces, it would almost certainly also dilute that skill.

Several lawmakers have also voiced plans to introduce related amendments to the authorization bill to specifically exempt women from registering for the draft, arguing that Pentagon officials haven’t fully thought out the ramifications of opening combat jobs to women.

The authorization bill, which sets spending guidelines and policy priorities for next fiscal year, will be marked up by the armed services committee on Thursday. The Senate must take up the measure later this year before sending the proposal to the White House to be signed into law.


Leo Shane III covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He can be reached at lshane@militarytimes.com.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
That is a Gargantuan MISTAKE.
Really a matter of completely undermining National Security BY Doing that!!
 

SSTemplar

Veteran Member
Put that son of a bitch down in the 70's leave it dead.I was drafted in 66 and was working on putting it to death in the 70's. Involuntary servitude was wrong then and is still wrong.
 

Mr. Peabody

Veteran Member
The draft would not be necessary if this country was invaded. Well, at least I hope would not be necessary. If a nation cannot rise an effective force by volunteers to defend itself from belligerents trying to invade, then it does not deserve to exist. The draft is for the elites to get involuntary servitude to fight a war that is political vs moral for the nation's existence. Kings raised armies to fight their wars by rounding up the subjects. The modern day elites do the same thing through the draft.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The draft could be reactivated by an act of Congress in one day if it was needed again.
Though the projected $23 million each year in savings is less than the bonuses in just one Federal department.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Congress, lying bastards that they are, will institute a new and improved military conscription, under the guise of some kind of "ending selective service" law.

My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
Congress, lying bastards that they are, will institute a new and improved military conscription, under the guise of some kind of "ending selective service" law.

My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this.

I don't like it but I would agree.
 

JF&P

Deceased
Congress, lying bastards that they are, will institute a new and improved military conscription, under the guise of some kind of "ending selective service" law.

My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this.

I have the same feeling....
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
We have to remember that "whether to draft women" is also another DELIBERATELY INTRODUCED CONFUSION by liberals, Communists, and our enemies who would weaken and divide us, our resolve, our plan of defense, our Unity in action and response to any attack or threat.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
This will not end well.....our country is being emasculated from within.

I agree with you 100% but I have to take issue with the word "being."

We are already there. We could NOT fight and WIN WW2 today.

The Pussification of the American male is mostly successful.

Palmetto

ETA. It will be a cold day in Hell before I let any female members of my family be drafted.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Congress, lying bastards that they are, will institute a new and improved military conscription, under the guise of some kind of "ending selective service" law.

My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this.

^^^^THIS^^^^

I come from a family that is US Navy, and nothing but Navy. Generation after generation
has served, including myself. However, that has all ended now.

2nd cousin is in there now, and he is getting out, once his enlistment is over.

If there is another draft, and if I am still breathing, I will personally drive my draft aged,
nieces and nephews, north to Canada, or to wherever they have to go,
in order to avoid the draft.

This is no longer my nation now. It belongs to all the low life scum, that at one time,
were controlled, but are now considered to be protected classes. Let the low life scum,
fight and hopefully die, on some foreign battlefield, the more the better.

Regards to all,
Nowski
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
They'll end the draft, but then say in order to get rid of your college loans, join the military.
 

vestige

Deceased
Congress, lying bastards that they are, will institute a new and improved military conscription, under the guise of some kind of "ending selective service" law.

My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this
.

I don't like it but I would agree.

I have the same feeling....


Kinda like the coincidences of all the "pre planned months ago drills" taking place in close proximity to the time and place of several calamities experienced over the years.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
My distrust of them leads me to think that we will be in a major conflict soon, because they are considering this.

Your distrust is well warranted.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Think about this...what kind of 'person' would join the military voluntarily? People who like the idea of killing people? And who would fight the hardest to keep the military same? Those who don't want to be in it?

I think we need the draft.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Well that took me by surprise I have to admit, I'd rather thought they were going in the other direction; I think this one is watch, wait and see what actually occurs - because as others have said they may get rid of the current draft and replace it later with something called "national service" or something like that.

I mean in reality, in a real crises it shouldn't be that hard to get people to volunteer, millions did in WWI and WWII; the second one was perceived as a defensive war of the homeland at the time, and given my father saw "a dog fight between a Japanese and American plane over my head" as a 14 year old blackout warden in Los Angeles I think they were correct about that one.

(and yep, I couldn't resist; my Dad never even told my Mom about that but he told me when I was 14, so the Battle For Los Angeles wasn't actually UFO's...at least not according to my Dad who had already built his own telescope and was President of the Jr. Astronomy club at age 14)...
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I realize there was also a draft in WWII, but my point is that people saw it as their duty to serve and many people did wait to be called (the same was true during the first WWI) there objectors, there always are but in general people came forward.

Vietnam was different (as was Korea) because they were not even declared wars, and they certainly were not protecting the US homeland even if the government tried to make people think that at the time.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Think about this...what kind of 'person' would join the military voluntarily? People who like the idea of killing people? And who would fight the hardest to keep the military same? Those who don't want to be in it?

I think we need the draft.

Quite a few members here joined...voluntarily.

Right now the .mil is being fairly selective.

I wouldn't EVER want a draftee (someone who didnt want to be there) overing my back.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Well that took me by surprise I have to admit, I'd rather thought they were going in the other direction; I think this one is watch, wait and see what actually occurs - because as others have said they may get rid of the current draft and replace it later with something called "national service" or something like that.

I mean in reality, in a real crises it shouldn't be that hard to get people to volunteer, millions did in WWI and WWII; the second one was perceived as a defensive war of the homeland at the time, and given my father saw "a dog fight between a Japanese and American plane over my head" as a 14 year old blackout warden in Los Angeles I think they were correct about that one.

(and yep, I couldn't resist; my Dad never even told my Mom about that but he told me when I was 14, so the Battle For Los Angeles wasn't actually UFO's...at least not according to my Dad who had already built his own telescope and was President of the Jr. Astronomy club at age 14)...

Considering the amount of PC social engineering "they" have been pushing on the military, I can only imagine the crap a "national service" scheme would load up on.
 

psychrn

Senior Member
Think about this...what kind of 'person' would join the military voluntarily? People who like the idea of killing people? And who would fight the hardest to keep the military same? Those who don't want to be in it?

I think we need the draft.

Caplock, I don't understand your post - I joined as a volunteer to serve and protect.

What do you mean by "who would fight the hardest to keep the military same"?

WTH does that even mean? After rereading several times, I don't know what you are trying to say. Please elucidate so I don't go off half cocked and start screaming as a 'person' who would join the military voluntarily.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
they may get rid of the current draft and replace it later with something called "national service" or something like that

That's what I see coming. More indoctrination, teaching them to obey without question. They sure won't train them like Israel's 'national service'.
 
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