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Heliobas Disciple

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Blesa Shaways‏ @Bilesa_Shaweys 9m9 minutes ago

Marine Brig. Gen.@william_seely informs #Iraqi joint operations command that #US forces to withdraw from #Iraq. added that US is respect the Iraqi sovereignty and for that @CJTFOIR will reorganise its forces in the next days and weeks ,Helicopter flights increase over #Baghdad GZ

AFP news agency‏Verified account @AFP 43s43 seconds ago

#BREAKING US army tells Iraq it is preparing to "move out": official letter


Beautiful! Get everyone out of Iraq, out of harms way, stop spending money there and instead of making it look like we are turning and running, we are framing it as respecting a request from Iraq. Perfect way to exit the area. As if we are doing it out of respect to Iraq's sovereignty. We shouldn't be there, they don't want us, we are wasting our money and putting too many America lives at risk. We never should've invaded Iraq, by doing so we handed it to Iran. I'm glad we are leaving. Now let's leave Afghanistan too while we're at it.

HD
 

Paladin1

"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
Barbara Starr‏Verified account @barbarastarrcnn 1m1 minute ago



Soldiers deploying w/ 82nd AB banned from bringing personal cellphones due to opsec div says. Maj. Gen. James Mingus, commanding general says “ This is not the normal kind of deployment. The decision 100 percent an operational security and force protection measure.”
Sounds like they expect to be moving to contact with Iranian forces fairly quickly then.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Beautiful! Get everyone out of Iraq, out of harms way, stop spending money there and instead of making it look like we are turning and running, we are framing it as respecting a request from Iraq. Perfect way to exit the area. As if we are doing it out of respect to Iraq's sovereignty. We shouldn't be there, they don't want us, we are wasting our money and putting too many America lives at risk. We never should've invaded Iraq, by doing so we handed it to Iran. I'm glad we are leaving. Now let's leave Afghanistan too while we're at it.

HD
I don't think that is what "move out" means in this instance...
 

Seeker22

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I've been trying to place an order with Riogrande for over an hour, the pages are timing out and it's not because they're having a sale either. It took me three hours to place an order with Grizzly last night.

I've been on Baker Bay doing a Delica order most of the morning here and I've had no speed problems at all. TB2k still fast for me.
 

raven

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on the other hand. . . . Trump did promise to bring the troops home
mission complete . . .
I wonder how long it will take
Iran to deploy its military and for
Iraq to stammer . . . wai . wai . wait a second, we did not mean get out when when said to leave.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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It wasn’t “swamp-called”, as in “the swamp called for it.”

It was “swamp called”, like “a fish called Wanda.” Some of you need to pay more attention to sentence construction.
 

Dozdoats

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Just ordered some more Throat Coat teas from Amazon, what with all the seasonal gunk going around - no glitches no delays.
 

Seeker22

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It wasn’t “swamp-called”, as in “the swamp called for it.”

It was “swamp called”, like “a fish called Wanda.” Some of you need to pay more attention to sentence construction.

Sigh. My point was, that is one of our trigger words. It was just strange to me that out of all the other words to use, that one was chosen.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Hm. You may be right. What puzzles me a bit is under what authority he would be conducting the move. It was a non-binding vote, and I don't recall news that the President was going to honor the request.

This smells fishy.

Agree. I am going to post the text of the letter which I just transcribed from the photo I attached of it. If it's real (and not a hoax, which I doubt but you never know in this day and age of fake news) I think the text should be discussed. Any typos are mine. Highlighting is mine as well for sake of discussion.

Sir, in due deference to the sovereignty of the Republic of Iraq, as requested by the Iraqi Parliament and the Prime Minister, CJTF-OIR will be repositioning forces over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement.

In order to conduct this task, Coalition Forces are required to take certain measure to ensure that the movement out of Iraq is conducted in a safe and efficient manner.


During this time, there will be an increase in helicopter travel in and around the international (IZ) of Baghdad. This increase traffic will include CH-47, UH-60 and AH-64 security escort helicopters.

Coalition Forces will take appropriate measures to minimize and mitigate the disturbance to the public. In addition,
we will conduct these operations during hours of darkness to help alleviate any perception that we may be bringing in more Coalition Forces to the IZ.

As we begin implementing the next phase of operations, I want to reiterate the value of our friendship and partnerhip. We respect your sovereign decision to order out departure.



I think Trump is evacuating the embassy especially all non-essential personnel and all files and all the easily moved equipment. I suspect that in the next few nights there will be heavy helicopter traffic over Baghdad as this happens and he's framing it and given that operation cover that it's part of troop withdrawal. I also think he is going to withdraw all of our troops when this is over and all is said and done but right now he's getting any one who isn't essential out of Dodge. At night when it's harder to shoot down the helicopters. Once Iran is no longer a threat (after he finishes whatever it is he started) we won't need to be there anyway.

HD
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Agree. I am going to post the text of the letter which I just transcribed from the photo I attached of it. If it's real (and not a hoax, which I doubt but you never know in this day and age of fake news) I think the text should be discussed. Any typos are mine. Highlighting is mine as well for sake of discussion.




So, I think Trump is evacuating the embassy especially all non-essential personnel and all files and all the easily moved equipment and he's doing it under cover that it's part of the troop withdrawal. I suspect that in the next few nights there will be heavy helicopter traffic over Baghdad as this happens and he's given that operation cover that it's part of troop withdrawal. I also think he is going to withdraw all of our troops when this is over and all is said and done. Once Iran is no longer a threat (after he finishes whatever it is he started) we won't need to be there anyway.

HD
The President has not said that this would be the plan. In fact, it is well known that the vote was not only non-binding, it wasn't even representative of the Iraqi parliament at all. I don't know what the deal is with this, but something isn't right.
 

SouthernBreeze

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The President has not said that this would be the plan. In fact, it is well known that the vote was not only non-binding, it wasn't even representative of the Iraqi parliament at all. I don't know what the deal is with this, but something isn't right.

I'm waiting to hear from Trump himself on this, before I believe it. Something this big, you would think Trump would make a major announcement.
 

AzProtector

Veteran Member
The President has not said that this would be the plan. In fact, it is well known that the vote was not only non-binding, it wasn't even representative of the Iraqi parliament at all. I don't know what the deal is with this, but something isn't right.

Call their bluff
 

Zagdid

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Thinking troops will be moving from a known location in Iraq to an unknown location (likely Syria). Never said the word 'withdrawing '. Said repositioning
 

Heliobas Disciple

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The President has not said that this would be the plan. In fact, it is well known that the vote was not only non-binding, it wasn't even representative of the Iraqi parliament at all. I don't know what the deal is with this, but something isn't right.

He's using the 'vote' as an excuse to evacuate the embassy and any non-essentials from harms way. He doesn't want to say - "we're evacuating our embassy because war is about to start". He's framing it as the US is complying with Iraq's request to get out. Trump never wanted us in Iraq, but he thought that Obama took us out of there the wrong way (I agree with both positions). This is a great way for us to exit. It explains all the helicopter traffic out of the IZ in the coming nights. And the way he framed it - we aren't abandoning Iraq, and we're not 'running away with out tail between our legs' - we are honoring a request from a sovereign nation. Like I said, beautiful!

I don't know how this lines up with POTUS's tweet about sanctions and paying for the embassy; if he can get money back from them, even better. But at this point in time, first and foremost, he needs to evacuate the embassy ASAP, and get all those people out of the way of Iran's retaliation - and this is the perfect way to do it.

HD
 

marsh

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"onward movement" "out of Iraq" does not say specifically to where they will be moving.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Lots of twittering about whether or not the letter is real. It may be fake. Stand by twitterverse for some sort of confirmation (if any will be given).

HD

ETA: I see Hammer posted while I was searching twitter. Reprinting his twitter in full. (I can't see twitters that are just quoted without opening a new window so for those in the same boat I'm copying it over).

View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1214278330062651393

Rick Dickson @rickpdickson
Rick Dickson Retweeted Mustafa Salim

This document is confirmed as official and accurate by Task Force Iraq Public Affairs.

There are lots of people saying it is fake. It is not.
 

Lilbitsnana

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Jack Detsch‏ @JackDetsch_ALM 5m5 minutes ago

Jack Detsch Retweeted Liz Sly


This letter is authentic, a US defense official tells me. There is no timeline for US troops to leave Iraq.

Jack Detsch added,



 

library lady

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[B]EconChick/IntelChick[/B]‏ @[B]MikayesFiona[/B] 9m9 minutes ago



EconChick/IntelChick Retweeted Donald J. Trump

THIS TWEET WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY BOOKS AS WHY TRUMP IS ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS EVER. This is signal I was looking for. Time to buckle up folks.

EconChick/IntelChick added,


Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump

IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON!

4 replies 17 retweets 43 likes
 

library lady

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Secret Service at Mar-a-Lago adds four checkpoints to examine vehicles for explosives and search guests for weapons after Iran put out $80m hit on the president
  • Secret Service has ramped up security at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida
  • Members and guests must pass through as many as four Secret Service checkpoints and have their vehicles examined for explosives under the hood
  • This comes as Iran has put an $80million bounty on President Trump after he ordered the death of Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani
  • On Sunday Hesameddin Ashena dropped a chilling hint of an Iranian attack on Donald Trump's empire by posting a link to his properties
  • The tougher measures by the Secret Service are in addition to protection by the Air Force, which enforces a no-fly zone over Mar-a-Lago when Trump is in town
  • Trump showed his gratitude to the agents before the new year by inviting them to a Sunday evening buffet where steak and lobster were served
By Ronald Kessler For Dailymail.com
Published: 13:42 EST, 6 January 2020 | Updated: 14:57 EST, 6 January 2020
 

Lilbitsnana

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ELINT News‏ @ELINTNews 5m5 minutes ago



ELINT News Retweeted محمد مجيد الأحوازي

Iranian state tv is banging the war drums here

ELINT News added,


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0:19

محمد مجيد الأحوازيVerified account @MohamadAhwaze

عاجل : التلفزيون الإيراني بث قبل قليل نشيد الحرب الإيرانية - العراقية في إشارة إلى حالة الحرب التي قد تشهدها المنطقة بعد مقتل سليماني . هذا النشيد ومترجم إلى اللغة العربية.
 

library lady

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[B]EconChick/IntelChick[/B]‏ @[B]MikayesFiona[/B] 58s58 seconds ago


EconChick/IntelChick Retweeted Isaac

Yes on pullout of US troops Trump's playing 4D chess. Trump now knows it's time to go all out and do what everyone's been trying to do since Iran first acquired nuke capability. He knows time has arrived. He has signaled it's time to finally just do it and stop trying all else

EconChick/IntelChick added,


Isaac @btc_baller

Replying to @MikayesFiona

What's you're thoughts as to whether they knew Iraq would ask us to leave after the Iran General takedown? or am I channeling a movie script here? I see allow of 4d chess comments on Trump's behavior. Do you think this is one

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/437382067714682880/f72OQ-ZJ_bigger.png[/IMG] [B]EconChick/IntelChick[/B]‏ @[B]MikayesFiona[/B] 3m3 minutes ago



EconChick/IntelChick Retweeted nobody that important

I've said along, don't worry, he'll adjust. His tweet about Iran's nuclear capability shows his course adjustment.

EconChick/IntelChick added,


nobody that important @user_name_xyz

Replying to @MikayesFiona

either way, correct move at this moment

0 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Washington Post now reporting. Doesn't mean it's real, MSM has been known to fall for fake news. But does add some credibility.

(fair use applies) (emphasis in red text mine)

Live updates: U.S. military says it will reposition troops within Iraq in preparation for a possible withdrawal

By Sarah Dadouch andSiobhán O'Grady
Jan. 6, 2020 at 3:39 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3024-11ea-9313-6cba89b1b9fb_story.html?rand=4
BREAKING: In a letter to the Iraqi military, Marine Corps Brig. Gen. William H. Seely III says that U.S. forces will be relocated "to prepare for onward movement" and says that "we respect your sovereign decision to order our departure.”A U.S. military official confirmed the letter's authenticity. This is an updating story.
 

Lilbitsnana

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Aurora Intel‏ @AuroraIntel 4m4 minutes ago

Aurora Intel Retweeted Deborah Haynes

Seems that the letter is real but it may have been interpreted incorrectly. #US #Iraq

Aurora Intel added,


Deborah HaynesVerified account @haynesdeborah

Coalition source told me: “We are moving some people out of Baghdad for force protection reasons. We aren't leaving Iraq (or Baghdad, for that matter)”
 
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