DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger

Melodi

Disaster Cat
After 1,917 poet starting Jun 29 2020 It ain't going anywhere.
As I've said at least four or five times before, this isn't Hollywood this is real life; this is an on-going disaster that was predicted to probably take weeks or months to play out.

Even if the water eventually goes down and the dam is still standing it is probably so badly damaged it will be a threat for decades to come, since it is unlikely repairable and not likely that China will spend billions to remove it - then one day it will just "go."

Horrible as it would be for it to "go" now, at least a lot of evacuations have taken places and nuclear plants temporarily shut down; a dam break five years down the like would be like Fukashima on steroids.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Record-shattering Sichuan floods to hammer China's Three Gorges Dam
Floods that are 'beating historical records' batter Sichuan, dump still more water on Three Gorges Dam

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Massive rains pounding Chongqing and much of Sichuan Province over the past few days have led to record-setting floods and alerts and are generating the highest inflow into the vaunted Three Gorges Dam yet this year, surpassing the huge quantities of water seen in four previous floods over the past three months.

In Sichuan and Chongqing, which sit on the upper reaches of the Yangtze River, days of torrential rain have caused numerous floods to break out. The Changjiang Water Resources Commission (CWRC) of the Ministry of Water Resources at 2:00 p.m on Monday announced that the "No.5 Flood" of this year had formed on the upper reaches of the river and would pass through the Three Gorges Dam with an astonishing inflow rate of 70,000 cubic meters per second, a record for this year.

The Sichuan provincial government announced on Sunday (Aug. 16) that it would send four more groups to disaster-stricken areas of Meishan, Ya'an, Chengdu, and Guangyuan to provide disaster relief, bringing the number of relief groups dispatched across the province to six. That same day, the Sichuan provincial government dispatched groups to Mianyang and Deyang, two other cities where extensive flooding has been reported. .... .... .....
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
So sick of stocking up and having my spare bedroom like a warehouse. BUT most things made in China so stocked up a little more.
Got more fleece, more underwear, socks, boots, more canned organic foods, more household durable things.
Bought dog conditioning gear.

Have old car, parts won't be available, need new car but don't want to pay mega bucks then not be able to run it.

Even things that are assembled or designed in USA -- the components come from China.

If the Dam blows it will be the worst catastrophe in human history.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
My mind is on the Dam this morning because there is torrential rain and flooding. Ppl previously were saying monsoon would be over mid-August. But instead, record rainfall, record flooding, more water barreling toward 3 Gorges Dam than ever in its history, on top of already months of worst flooding in their history.

This is exactly what BDAnon said would happen. Time and more water, building up, carving out huge chasms under dam. It will collapse.

Supplies and just-in-time will be GONE.

Ppl will get desperate.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
China record floods wet feet of Leshan Giant Buddha
  • 19 August 2020


Giant Buddha carved from rock with floodwater around its base (18 Aug)
Image copyrightREUTERS
A giant statue of Buddha in China has had its toes dampened by floodwater for the first time since the 1940s.
The 71m-tall statue, a Unesco heritage site, was carved out of a rockface near Chengdu in Sichuan province around the eighth century AD.
It is normally high above the waterline, but the area has been hit by the worst flooding in 70 years.
More than 100,000 people have had to be moved to safety.
The statue is a hugely popular attraction and often included in cruises along the nearby Yangtze river and Three Gorges.
State media said 180 tourists had be rescued from the site as waters rose.
Tourist boats next to the Leshan Buddha in February
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionThe statue normally sits high above the waterline, as seen here in February
Tourists burn offerings at the feet of the Giant Buddha in 2016
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionTourists and pilgrims arrive by boat to burn offerings at the Buddha's feet
The feet of the Giant Buddha
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionThe last time the toes - each bigger than a person - got wet was 1949
Waters reach the platform of the statue (12 Aug)
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionBut last week waters reached the base of the statue and kept rising
According to the Xinhua state news agency, a traditional local saying holds that if the Buddha's feet get wet, Chengdu - which has a population of 16 million people - will flood too.
Sichuan province has activated its highest level emergency response after weeks of heavy rain caused record high water levels, with no sign of it ending soon.
Rescuers help evacuated villagers get off boats onto land in Sichuan (18 August)
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionRescuers have been despatched to help people evacuate from at-risk areas
Flood alerts are in place for provinces around the Yangtze, Yellow, Hai, Songhua and Liao rivers, with warnings of possible landslides.
Flooding in Chongqing (14 Aug)
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionChongqing has already battled several waves of flooding this summer
The statue, just outside Chengdu, is a hugely popular attraction and often included in cruises along the nearby Yangtze.
Officials have warned that huge volumes of water are building up behind the Three Gorges dam - a massive hydroelectric project on the Yangtze.
The Ministry of Water Resources has warned this could lead to severe flooding upstream, including the major city of Chongqing
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OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Merry Meet, DragonBurrow!

Great find! So far, we've had to do with little "hard" info. Now, you've peeled off part of the noxious onion that enslaves China- the CCP. Thank-You!!!

May You and Yours Always Be Safe, Well, Happy, and Forever, Free... So Mote It Be...

OldArcher, Witch
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Anxiety grows as China’s Three Gorges dam hits highest level
Officials seek to reassure public after world’s largest hydro-electric dam nears capacity amid heavy floods

Lily Kuo in Beijing
Thu 20 Aug 2020 03.34 EDT

Extreme floods have hit China’s Three Gorges dam, which recorded the largest inflow of water in its history, prompting officials to assure the public it would not be breached.
Inflows to the world’s largest hydro-electric dam reached 75m litres of water a second, according to state media. By Thursday morning, 11 outlets of the dam had been opened to discharge 49.2m litres of water a second, the largest release since its construction.
After two months of heavy floods across central and south-west China, officials have promised the dam can withstand the flows.:kaid:

A breach of the dam, a controversial and unprecedented feat of engineering along the Yangtze River, would be embarrassing for China, which took 12 years to build the megaproject, displacing millions and submerging swathes of land.
The Three Gorges dam, which can handle inflows of about 98.8m litres a second, is already approaching its capacity. Officials expect water levels in the reservoir, whose dam was built to withstand a water level of 175 metres, to reach 165.5 metres on Saturday. The flooding is predicted to last about five days.
This week the ministry of water resources said the standard of construction meant 111 large reservoirs upstream from the dam could help lessen pressure on the structure. “The standard of construction of the dam is high and it can resist large floods,” it said.
Upstream from the dam, officials in the city of Chongqing, in Sichuan province, evacuated almost 300,000 residents before the flooding. On Thursday, levels along the Yangtze near Chongqing reached heights not seen since 1981, when the country experienced its worst floods in a century, leaving 1.5 million homeless.
In Chongqing, roads, bridges, parks and a main highway in the commercial district were flooded, affecting 260,000 people and damaging at least 20,000 businesses, according to officials.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The last I checked bw, the kill rate for a catastrophic breach of the 3 gorge dam was in the up to 400 MILLION DEAD range. Yep, a bit more than embarassing. I understand Emperor XI the Merciless is doing Party purges.

And yeah, the dam breaches, the famine starts, a done deal on the famine, and it is game over globally.
 

Mama Ten Bears

Veteran Member
The last I checked bw, the kill rate for a catastrophic breach of the 3 gorge dam was in the up to 400 MILLION DEAD range. Yep, a bit more than embarassing. I understand Emperor XI the Merciless is doing Party purges.

And yeah, the dam breaches, the famine starts, a done deal on the famine, and it is game over globally.

That's the number I have read too, Doug. It would be a horror!
 

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
I thought it only had 10 gates? Someone above said "all 10 gates" were open?
It was in a news report from the Guardian. Sorry, I thought it was listed here.
Anxiety grows as China’s Three Gorges dam hits highest level

Shadow


Anxiety grows as China’s Three Gorges dam hits highest level
Officials seek to reassure public after world’s largest hydro-electric dam nears capacity amid heavy floods
The provinces of Hunan, Henan and Hubei, where the Three Gorges dam is located, were also braced for heavy rain on Thursday.

The flooding threatens to derail the country’s fragile recovery from the Covid-19 crisis. The outbreak has caused an estimated 179bn yuan in losses and displaced more than 4 million people, according to officials.


Extreme floods have hit China’s Three Gorges dam, which recorded the largest inflow of water in its history, prompting officials to assure the public it would not be breached.
Inflows to the world’s largest hydro-electric dam reached 75m litres of water a second, according to state media. By Thursday morning, 11 outlets of the dam had been opened to discharge 49.2m litres of water a second, the largest release since its construction.
After two months of heavy floods across central and south-west China, officials have promised the dam can withstand the flows.
A breach of the dam, a controversial and unprecedented feat of engineering along the Yangtze River, would be embarrassing for China, which took 12 years to build the megaproject, displacing millions and submerging swathes of land.

The Three Gorges dam, which can handle inflows of about 98.8m litres a second, is already approaching its capacity. Officials expect water levels in the reservoir, whose dam was built to withstand a water level of 175 metres, to reach 165.5 metres on Saturday. The flooding is predicted to last about five days.

This week the ministry of water resources said the standard of construction meant 111 large reservoirs upstream from the dam could help lessen pressure on the structure. “The standard of construction of the dam is high and it can resist large floods,” it said.

Upstream from the dam, officials in the city of Chongqing, in Sichuan province, evacuated almost 300,000 residents before the flooding. On Thursday, levels along the Yangtze near Chongqing reached heights not seen since 1981, when the country experienced its worst floods in a century, leaving 1.5 million homeless.

In Chongqing, roads, bridges, parks and a main highway in the commercial district were flooded, affecting 260,000 people and damaging at least 20,000 businesses, according to officials.

Images showed flooding had submerged three-metre-high signs and buildings several storeys high. Firefighters were using boats to transport trapped residents.

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China floods: 100,000 evacuated as waters reach Giant Buddha statue


In Sichuan, emergency workers and volunteers were scrambling to protect a 1,200-year-old cultural relic, the Leshan Giant Buddha, as floodwaters reached the toes of the statue for the first time since 1949.

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The provinces of Hunan, Henan and Hubei, where the Three Gorges dam is located, were also braced for heavy rain on Thursday.
The flooding threatens to derail the country’s fragile recovery from the Covid-19 crisis. The outbreak has caused an estimated 179bn yuan in losses and displaced more than 4 million people, according to officials.

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The floods have also raised concerns about food security. A report from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said the supply gap was likely to be about 130m tons by the end of 2025.

The Chinese leader toured Anhui province this week, another badly hit area where floods had eased slightly. Xi Jinping stood atop a floodgate and visited soldiers, declaring: “I have always been concerned about the people in flood-stricken areas. The Chinese nation has fought natural disasters for thousands of years … We will continue to fight.”
 
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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
View: https://youtu.be/u2kE7m-cbm8


Side gate is open again.

Time clock set on video is STILL off by one minute (I'm talking TIME ZONES here---the time stamp on the video used to be EXACTLY 12 hours different from my time here in Eastern Standard (now Eastern Daylight) time---then when we started seeing the large debris blocks being vomited out, a few weeks back (that some said were video anomalies) the CCP shut down the videos for several days. When they put them back up, the angle was changed, they were ZOOMED WAY OUT so you can't get a close-up view of the water (and whatever else) is coming out of the dam any more--and suddenly the two times no longer sync. The time-stamp on the video is now ONE MINUTE BEHIND what it SHOULD be, if it were still synced exactly BY TIME ZONES to my own area. It's been put on a delay.

Re debris--the water coming out looks much dirtier to me. Also--hard to tell because they've zoomed it out so far--but does it look to you folks like it's spewing large rocks again?
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
The last I checked bw, the kill rate for a catastrophic breach of the 3 gorge dam was in the up to 400 MILLION DEAD range. Yep, a bit more than embarassing. I understand Emperor XI the Merciless is doing Party purges.

And yeah, the dam breaches, the famine starts, a done deal on the famine, and it is game over globally.
No. That's how many people live downstream. The death toll would be high but not even remotely close to 100% of everyone that lives in the Yangtze River corridor.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Re debris--the water coming out looks much dirtier to me. Also--hard to tell because they've zoomed it out so far--but does it look to you folks like it's spewing large rocks again?

It might give the impression, but I don't think rocks can get to the dam. Any significant rocks carried downriver will drop out of the flow soon as the water reaches the reservoir. Dirt and silt is carried as far as the dam, and the lower floodgates are intended to flush that out.
 

Sneaker 11

RECONDO
I realize the following is not even close to the magnitude of what is going on in China, but in 2011 when our illustrious Corps of Engineers decimated the Missouri river basin below Gavins Point dam reminds me of our most serious situation. My DW and I drove up to Yankton, SD to view the release. At that time, they had all spillway gates open and the roar was unbelievable, the boiling water mist was also very dramatic. The results of this man caused problem was devastating not only to property loss but to all who lived in the area below the dam all the way to the Mississippi. We live four blocks from the river and to prepare for the flooding moved everything from our basement, plugged the drains, and slept with the emergency radio on in case the dam failed. I would say there were many nights where sleep became a precious commodity.

After the water levels were reduced and the inspections revealed many issues, not the least of which was the concrete apron that required massive repairs due to erosion. Even IF the dam doesn't fail, there will be years of repairs on the horizon............but remember all this was made in China. ;)

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Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
The dam is now spewing dark chocolate turbid water at extremely high velocity. The far right wall on the frontal view has water coming over the dam in big bursts, about every 10 seconds. There's ongoing threads on 4chan detailing the whole thing with many links. Not allowed to link those threads here.

Multiple videos snuck out of China of raging flooding and massive landslides.

Already epic disaster even if dam holds. Does not look like dam will hold. More rain coming, levels highest in history, silt and debris clogging outlets and cavitation gouging caverns underneath.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
The dam is now spewing dark chocolate turbid water at extremely high velocity. The far right wall on the frontal view has water coming over the dam in big bursts, about every 10 seconds. There's ongoing threads on 4chan detailing the whole thing with many links. Not allowed to link those threads here.

Multiple videos snuck out of China of raging flooding and massive landslides.

Already epic disaster even if dam holds. Does not look like dam will hold. More rain coming, levels highest in history, silt and debris clogging outlets and cavitation gouging caverns underneath.
The far right wall on the frontal view has water coming over the dam in big bursts, about every 10 seconds

Over the dam?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
The far right wall on the frontal view has water coming over the dam in big bursts, about every 10 seconds

Over the dam?
If the water is coming Over the Dam in any quantity, I hope they are evacuating people quickly because usually, that is the last stage before the end (dams can fail in other ways, but I gather that over-topping will wash them away if it goes on very long).
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
The far right wall on the frontal view has water coming over the dam in big bursts, about every 10 seconds

Over the dam?

Over one of the walls below the dam that divides the flow into three parts - left powerhouse, right powerhouse, and floodgate center.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
This is from Epoch Times, which is virulently anti communist. However, this is not good at all. It is also two months old. The picture also doesn't look good at all.


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This picture taken on July 24, 2012 shows water released from the Three Gorges Dam, a gigantic hydropower project on the Yangtze river, in Yichang, central China's Hubei province.(STR/AFP/GettyImages)
This picture taken on July 24, 2012 shows water released from the Three Gorges Dam, a gigantic hydropower project on the Yangtze river, in Yichang, central China's Hubei province.(STR/AFP/GettyImages)
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China’s Largest Dam Draws Scrutiny for Structural Flaws as Flooding Ravages Country
BY EVA FU

June 24, 2020 Updated: June 26, 2020
China’s controversial Three Gorges Dam, the largest hydropower project in the world, has drawn scrutiny for its structural flaws and environmental damage ever since its construction was first proposed in the 1950s.
 
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