DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger

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Failure of the Three Gorges Dam would annihilate the entire logistics infrastructure of central China.
This ^^^ and then this

The Yangtze River Economic Basin has a GDP of more than $6.5 trillion, or about half of all China's GDP.
Recall, China represents 28% of all manufacturing output - globally. More than half of that is in the YREB.
15% of the world's production would go offline in 24 hours.

Pretty sobering!
 

Doomer Doug

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The dam breach in Force 10 from Navarone was the greatest in movie history. You are ALL forgetting the scene, between Edward Fox and Robert Shaw, after they had placed the explosive charges, escaped, and were sitting there watching the time pass, no explosion. Shaw starts to strangle Fox, who is laughing at him, and telling him the dam will destroy the dam, as in the water pressure, not the explosives will destroy the dam. I saw that scene over 40 years ago and I still remember Fox and Shaw acting off of each other. :eleph:
 

rafter

Since 1999
IPOT video. Lots of interesting talk about the 3 Gorge Dam....also about the seeds that are coming in the mail labeled jewelry (connection?). The aftermath of the collapse of the dam and other interesting bits.

Run time... 34:50



 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Thou shalt not ridicule or blaspheme the Taoist Doom prognostic of the ages! Anyway, he's been around a long time and is really interesting to listen to. Take it as entertainment at best but always nervously look into the horizon to see if anything he says is coming your way.
I think the web bot idea is a bit far out, but it does indeed (if it really does what he says it does) have some value, because there has to be trends in world wide thinking that affect, or are a result of, history being made.
 

CaryC

Veteran Member
The dam breach in Force 10 from Navarone was the greatest in movie history. You are ALL forgetting the scene, between Edward Fox and Robert Shaw, after they had placed the explosive charges, escaped, and were sitting there watching the time pass, no explosion. Shaw starts to strangle Fox, who is laughing at him, and telling him the dam will destroy the dam, as in the water pressure, not the explosives will destroy the dam. I saw that scene over 40 years ago and I still remember Fox and Shaw acting off of each other. :eleph:
You asked for it, but it will take two postings:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFoBu7P_Kwc


RT 3:48
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Does the water on the live feed look extra brown today? It seems so to me. It may be nothing, I just thought I'd say something.
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
This ^^^ and then this

The Yangtze River Economic Basin has a GDP of more than $6.5 trillion, or about half of all China's GDP.
Recall, China represents 28% of all manufacturing output - globally. More than half of that is in the YREB.
15% of the world's production would go offline in 24 hours.

Pretty sobering!
Good info... I was worried it might even be higher than that. I wonder how much of that 15% is US goods, and what percentage of our manufacturing that is. Car parts we could struggle through, but it is so much more than that. hmmm. Wonder if I should go buy a junk yard. That stuff might become really valuable.
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Does the water on the live feed look extra brown today? It seems so to me. It may be nothing, I just thought I'd say something.
Well, the night view is totally different for me than it has been. I could see the water splashing at least, but tonight, nothing but a street lamp down low, and a bit of the wall. It might be that the street lamp is fooling the auto brightness.
 

Keric4

Member
Could the reason for the big box stores being closed Thanxgiving(Black Friday?) be, because they are not expecting much in the way of shipments coming from China, due to the flooding?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
My understanding is that there is almost no news at all coming out of China, there's the light show at the dam (but no way to know if it is recorded or not) a few bits and pieces about other stuff.

I'm sure if I did a major hunt I could find something, but basically it is just not in the news stream; which is a bit worrying combined with the rumors that almost nothing is getting out of China to report in the first place.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
It is still OPEN for Black Fri but they are not going to run SPECIALS as they have in the generally recent past. And yeah they HAVE announced this.
 

LawPoet

Contributing Member
My understanding is that there is almost no news at all coming out of China, there's the light show at the dam (but no way to know if it is recorded or not) a few bits and pieces about other stuff.
I sought info from diverse sources over the last two days and folks that were posting "up to the hour" info were being shut down on Reddit and elsewhere. Google searches are giving me CRAP from the CCP about "dam holding well". Melodi's right--huge info shut-down.
 
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Seeker22

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I sought info from diverse sources over the last two days and folks that were posting "up to the hour" info were being shut down on Reddit and elsewhere. Google searches are giving me CRAP from the CCP about "dam holding well". Melodi's right--huge info shut-down.
Ditto for Satellite feeds. Just not out there. That thing could have already gone tits up, nipples to the sun- and we'd never know.
 

LawPoet

Contributing Member
Ditto for Satellite feeds. Just not out there. That thing could have already gone tits up, nipples to the sun- and we'd never know.
And there are reasons to keeping info secret: "market manipulations--stocks and more"; Emergency commodities purchases of grains etc; control over the populous--get "your people to high ground and let the peons drown"; much more.

Information is power--thus, US media has been corrupted and purchased for evil purposes and totalitarian governments never tell the truth.
 

Doomer Doug

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One of the main methods used by dictatorships is information control. The CCP may not realize for western people the LACK of information is information all by itself.
I will remind you all of my post that said the two day MASSIVE STORM STARTS WED- TODAY GOES TO FRIDAY. Info shut off. Massive rain. Do the math!
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Can someone else look at this feed and give their thoughts?
Looks like water running fast and close to me.

spillway angle
Yeah, I am getting the same thing... very foggy and dark still... but looks like water very close to the camera. There is still that little light in front, that before looked like a street light. Maybe someone has re-aimed the camera.
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
The Chinese Communist Party are rank amateurs when it comes to disinformation. They need to collude with America's Democrat Party. Within 24 hours they'd have a carefully woven tale of how the troubles at Three Gorges are the fault of Trump and the Russians!

Best
Doc
And any Docs who have used Hydroxychloroquine on Covid 19 (successfully) do not exist now.
 

Doomer Doug

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This is the massive rain storm I mentioned. My other post gave the key resovoir water heights as 165 meters, 175 meters, dam breach at 181 meters, and over top at 185 meters
The last REAL NUMBERS I saw were 165 meters.
181 meters by Friday. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE HIDING.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
This is the massive rain storm I mentioned. My other post gave the key resovoir water heights as 165 meters, 175 meters, dam breach at 181 meters, and over top at 185 meters
The last REAL NUMBERS I saw were 165 meters.
181 meters by Friday. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE HIDING.
181 meters is an alert level, not the point at which the dam will breach. It can overtop and survive just fine. There is some danger of erosion on the side banks, like the Oroville parking lot, if it overtops.
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Yeah, I am getting the same thing... very foggy and dark still... but looks like water very close to the camera. There is still that little light in front, that before looked like a street light. Maybe someone has re-aimed the camera.
Got this now... same angle as before... and the sun is coming up... that was a street light. I don't think it was aimed at the camera before last night??
3 gorges2.JPG
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
181 meters is an alert level, not the point at which the dam will breach. It can overtop and survive just fine. There is some danger of erosion on the side banks, like the Oroville parking lot, if it overtops.
Doesn't it dump over (through) those top holes first at like 185 or something? Think I read that somewhere.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Doesn't it dump over (through) those top holes first at like 185 or something? Think I read that somewhere.
Could be, I don't know. That would qualify as overtopping, if it's coming over the upper gate tops. Regardless, that's no breach.
 

Doomer Doug

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We don't know what is really going on at 3 gorge dam.
The dam could be leaking under the dam, through the dam, around the dam at the edges. Way to much brown means silt, dirt coming somewhere it shouldn't be coming from.
 

parocan

Senior Member
Been watching the weather in china via ventusky. Right now if you look
at the amount of rain coming down in Chengdu. which is above the 3 gorges and
will be coming down above the dam the next few days could be enough to bring it down.
 
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