POL Canada warns world, it will defend Israel to death.

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This makes me proud to be a Canadian!! :ld:

Canada warns world, it will defend Israel to death.
Published On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 02:44:30 AM Yourjewishnews.com/Montreal Gazette






In a strident speech heavy with references to the Second World War and the Cold War, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird launched a full-on defence of Israel at the UN in New York on Monday before criticizing a number of countries for their treatment of religious minorities, including China.


Baird said that while fascism and communism were the biggest threats facing previous generations, terrorism is the greatest threat today.


"And far too often, the Jewish state is on the front line in our struggle and its people are the victims of terror," he said in reference to Israel.

"Canada will not accept or stay silent while the Jewish state is attacked for defending its territory and its citizens. The Second World War taught us all the tragic price of going along just to get along."

During his address, the minister repeatedly warned against the dangers of appeasement and complacency in defending human rights, democracy and the rule of law, quoting such world leaders as former British prime ministers Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill, and U.S. president Franklin Roosevelt.


In particular, Baird noted Roosevelt's assertion that democracy and religious freedom are linked. The minister said that is why the government is intent on establishing an office of religious freedom and making it a key part of Canadian foreign affairs.


"The long history of humanity has proven that religious freedom and democratic freedom are inseparable," Baird said.


The minister said Canada has a duty to protect those who are persecuted, be they Christians in Iran, Iraq and Egypt, Muslims in Burma, or "Roman Catholic priests and other Christian clergy, and their laity, driven to worship underground in China."


The inclusion of China was unexpected, given Baird had described the Asian giant as a "strategic partner" as recently as July and Chinese officials have indicated they don't appreciate criticism of their internal policies.


Baird also singled out Uganda for its policies on gays and lesbians, Syria for its crackdown on pro-democracy activists, and Sri Lanka for trying to stop investigations into possible war crimes committed during the island nation's decades-long civil war.


The minister also blasted Palestine's request last week that the UN recognize it as a full member.



"We will not go along with the unilateral actions of the Palestinian Authority," Baird said. "Our government's position has been clear: That the only solution to this issue is one that is negotiated between the two parties themselves."


Baird also criticized the UN membership as a whole for allowing despotic regimes and flagrant human rights violators to chair important committees. He warned that such actions serve only to undermine the world body.


"The greatest enemies of the United Nations are those who quietly undermine its principles and, even worse, those who sit idly watching its slow decline,"

he said. "We cannot sit idly."
In a surprising turn, Baird warned that Canada will not be held back by endless hand-wringing and consensus-building at the world body when it comes to defending human rights and democracy abroad.



"In the defence of freedom and human rights, form cannot prevail over substance," he said. "While multilateral action should be preferred, failure to achieve consensus must not prevent the willing from acting to uphold human rights and the founding principles of the United Nations."



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Wolfe1965

Member
That is awesome! You know what is really a shame, in the not to distant past, it would have been America saying that. Amazing how far we have fallen.

Wolfe1965
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Canada warns world, it will defend Israel to death



What a shame all the chocolate messiah would do to defend them is send a Strongly Worded Communique:tm: to the UN. We have lost our national testicles at the hand of the metrosexual, limp-d*cked kenyan...
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
Israel is not our business. We have our own house that is crumbling around us and we continue to piss away billions in the ME and treat Israel like a lap dog, rather than as a sovereign nation. Israel has been a spoiled child and needs to stand on its own and make its own decisions according to its own constitution instead of having nations like US or anyone else pampering it and telling it how to conduct its business and affairs.

Whatever those decisions are concerning war or peace they should not affect nor involve us. I support Israel's right to act as a sovereign nation, but that's as far as my love for that God forsaken place goes.
 

peacewithin

Leave a ❤️print wherever u go
"God forsaken place goes."

I am so sad you feel that way about God's chosen people.

My Jesus was a Jew.

I realize everyone is entitled to their own thoughts.

I just needed to express mine.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
I'm so proud of the Stephen Harper CONSERVATIVE government in this instance. There are many Christians in this government who understand the importance of Israel and how it relates to our security in the West.
I know the incredible pressure the Islamic groups are putting on them to turn and its probably just a matter of time til they are forced into going pro-Palestinian. I email the Min of Foreign Affairs and the PM after news stories like this, to encourage them but wonder how much longer it will last.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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What Aard (and those who think like him) don't (or won't) understand is that when TSHTF in the ME, Israel is the ONLY NATION that we can count on if we need to stage our military in the region. If for no other reason than that, we need to support them 100% against the raghead bombing scum.
 

Ender

Inactive
Israel is not our business. We have our own house that is crumbling around us and we continue to piss away billions in the ME and treat Israel like a lap dog, rather than as a sovereign nation. Israel has been a spoiled child and needs to stand on its own and make its own decisions according to its own constitution instead of having nations like US or anyone else pampering it and telling it how to conduct its business and affairs.

Whatever those decisions are concerning war or peace they should not affect nor involve us. I support Israel's right to act as a sovereign nation, but that's as far as my love for that God forsaken place goes.

Amen.

My solution is for all the heads of state and their parliaments/congresses/whatevers to be shuffled off to a little piece of land and fight it out. Meantime, the rest of us can get on with our lives.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
Are you just proud of his support to Israel or does that extend to his comments on Gay rights?

As far as I know, any Christian could support Baird's comments on Uganda's policies toward homosexuals. PM Harper protested the proposed Ugandan law back in 2009.
 

Ender

Inactive
What Aard (and those who think like him) don't (or won't) understand is that when TSHTF in the ME, Israel is the ONLY NATION that we can count on if we need to stage our military in the region. If for no other reason than that, we need to support them 100% against the raghead bombing scum.

What gives the US the right to be meddling in the ME in the first place?
 

oyster_777

Veteran Member
As a Canadian i fully support the defence of Israel. We have about 68,000 regular forces spread out across Canada and deployed abroad. However our Canadian Forces are few and far between to make any differnence if there was a full out war over there.

I think Canada is just posturing...
 

Lone Wolf

Lives on TB
Israel is not our business. We have our own house that is crumbling around us and we continue to piss away billions in the ME and treat Israel like a lap dog, rather than as a sovereign nation. Israel has been a spoiled child and needs to stand on its own and make its own decisions according to its own constitution instead of having nations like US or anyone else pampering it and telling it how to conduct its business and affairs.

Whatever those decisions are concerning war or peace they should not affect nor involve us. I support Israel's right to act as a sovereign nation, but that's as far as my love for that God forsaken place goes.

Spoiled child?

This little kid is the smallest kid on the sandbox and the big kids want that sandbox.

They are more then willing to kill to take that sandbox for their own.

We need to be with Israel right now to give us a spot to be if we have to go into that sandbox enmasse.

As a Chiristian, I have my own reasons for helping to keep the Israels safe from harm.

Israel does have nukes, and as auch we need to support her as best we can so that she may never have to use them.

I listened very close to what PM Netanjahu, had to sday before the UN, last week. He spoke like a true statesman, not some PC, nutless politician.

He told the UN just where the bear went, but in a way that you could not mistake.

Jesus was a Jew. I am washed in His blood. I am grafted into that race by His blood. I can not and will not look the other way while her enemys try to push her into the Med.

"Curse Israel and I will curse you. Bless Israel and I will bless you"

lw
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
Christians need to understand what is happening in the Liberal/Left "church". Most of my evangelical Christian friends are totally ignorant of this. The Emergents like Brian McLaren hate Israel and fawn all over the Palestinians. They are getting bolder and more vocal in publically spewing their vitriol. I believe the day is fast approaching when we who support Israel will be actively persecuted.
 

Amberglass

Inactive
Yes, I'm another one that is very proud to be Canadian especially when we stand tall and speak out for Israel.

I believe it was just last year, PM Harper was very vocal in Canada's support for Israel. .....so much so that I sent him an email thanking him.
 

bethshaya

God has a plan, Trust it!
While I do not think it is our job to police her and provide for her, it is our job as an ally to help her defend herself.

I do not think we should be dictating their reactions or non reactions to their own politics and internal problems. But when it comes to helping her help herself, that is a different story.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
"God forsaken place goes."

I am so sad you feel that way about God's chosen people.

Chosen? For what, exactly?

I'm no stranger to your belief, but your religious blinders make them out to be something mystical and more than what they are in reality. They're just humans, living and dying, wondering what direction their country will take. They're no more special than you or I, and certainly no more blessed... You probably don't wake up daily, wondering if the store you're visiting, or a nearby bus, will be loaded with explosives. Most of them are not even religious, and the tiny percentage that are, most of them think you and your Jesus is a joke... Sure there's a handful of Christian Jews, but they're still just people, all in the same boat. There's nothing to bless OR curse... They're just humans who inhabit a really crappy part of the earth, and also just happened to be surrounded by their spiteful cousins who hate them and think them better off dead.

We have armed them to the teeth. They're intelligent and effective fighters. They can handle themselves. Let them deal with their crap, and let us deal with ours. If you think they deserve your money because God thinks they're more special than you, then kindly feel free to donate. If you feel the need to help them slaughter their enemies, then go of your own volition and fight for them.

There is no logical reason why anyone should be forced to pay taxes to support another sovereign nation, or required to fight on behalf of any other nation than their own.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
So you'd turn it over to China, with all its energy resources?

It not in OUR constitution to do otherwise, and we should be content with being neutral. Who cares what nations are vying for the resources of the M.E.? If they want to endure endless war with angry Arabs, then let them. They are not our resources anyway. We can save a whole lot of American lives, by leaving the sandbox. We have plenty of our own resources anyway, if we'd just fix our sh!tty mindset and kick the regulations and regulators to the curb. We can afford to take the moral high ground and stop molesting foreign nations, sleeping with our enemies, stirring the beehives, and laying claim to that which is not ours.
 

Lone Wolf

Lives on TB
Ard;

Your ill equiped to debate the rightfulness or the wrongness of the Israel, or the folks position to defend and assist her.

However your assertions are within the scope of our constitution, if not our faith.

lw
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
There's way more than oil and other resources at stake in the ME. There is a strong religious and psychological mind-set at play here. To the Muslims, not only MUST they retake ALL lands which were once theirs (this would include much of Spain, all of Greece, Bosnia, Serbia, Herzegovina, Albania, Romania and extensive chunks of France, Hungary and Austria) they must eventually conquer the entire world for Islam. I have talked at length with "moderate" Muslims, even friends of mine on our street, and they admit that eventually Islam will rule the world. It's an important part of their theology.
The world waited too long to stop the aggression of other would-be empires in past and the world is making the same mistake of trying to appease evil now.
I think if the West tosses Israel to them as an appeasement bone, this will only strengthen the Muslims in their resolve that we are corrupt, weak and worthy of destruction. It will incite them to take much more.
 

Grammytomany

Inactive
What Aard (and those who think like him) don't (or won't) understand is that when TSHTF in the ME, Israel is the ONLY NATION that we can count on if we need to stage our military in the region. If for no other reason than that, we need to support them 100% against the raghead bombing scum.

So TRUE. Why isn't our President making that clear also to the rest of the world. We MUST always stand with Israel.
 
The Usual Suspect(s) on this board get it all wrong - AS USUAL with respect to almost anything concerning Israel.


Israel is not (yet?) perfect - but it easily beats the crap out of ANY other entity in the region...PERIOD.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Anyone know where Netanyahu is today? I'm worried about him---I still remember that prediction that he would be assassinated---the Palis would certainly love to pull something like that off, but it would set off WW III.

Also, the news out of the UN and Israel is so quiet today (at least on the MSM)---what is the current status re the Pali's wanting the UN to "declare" them a nation (and the response of Israel and the rest of the world to that--other than Canada)?

In other words,----any sign the powederkeg is about to "blow"?
 

John H

Deceased
Canada warns world, it will defend Israel to death.

John Baird, Foreign Affairs Minister, I do hope you understand it's the other guys that are supposed to be dead and not us.

John H
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Canada warns world, it will defend Israel to death.

John Baird, Foreign Affairs Minister, I do hope you understand it's the other guys that are supposed to be dead and not us.

John H

John, y'all got THAT right.

I THINK that CanadaSue is gonna be a tad ticked since I BELIEVE this is Brihard's month for Duty Canoe Duty.....He gets to bring home the Canadian Navy all this month....
 
Remember the dancing Israeli's. They knew exactly when and where 911 was going to happen and they positioned themselves to film it. They lost my support there and then.
 
o TRUE. Why isn't our President making that clear also to the rest of the world. We MUST always stand with Israel.



no we don't, what we need to do is play real politics. Just as the Israeli's do.
 
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