DISASTER California, Calaveras and Amador Counties: Butte Fire Evacuation Details

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Some of it was lightning caused but I don't know if all of them were; sometimes they don't know for months out when all the investigations are done; when things are this dry, a normal spark from an electrical wire or reflecting glass from a window can set them off sometimes.

Many others happen by accident, sometimes real accident and sometimes people being very stupid; a minority are intentionally set, usually be mental patients (or should be) but there have been reports of certain terrorist groups suggesting that such fires be started; thankfully most intentionally caused fires do get "caught out" eventually; even if they don't find the person responsible it usually can be attributed to arson.

BeWell may know more on this, and the percentages since her husband is a fire-fighter (and still out there as far as I know).
 

Be Well

may all be well
I will ask DH about this; arson is sadly not totally uncommon; a friend in Placerville told me that the really big fire above P'vile last summer, was arson, a ne'er-do-well who was known in the area started it on purpose, after trying to start other fires that were put out in time, IIRC. Arson should be a very severely punished crime. Generally the investigators can find the origin of the fire and often tell quickly if it was arson or accident, due to traces of accelerant or other means to start it. Add to that if the origin as very near a road, and if there were several points of origin that is also a clincher. Then a sort of subcategory is accidental but due to utter stupidity or carelessness.

I do not know about percentages but will see if he knows anything.

Thankfully DH got back just a week ago. He hasn't unpacked his gear, just in case he gets another call, since the fires in CA are so bad right now.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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Photo: Smoke from Butte Fire in Amador and Calaveras Counties in California is seen from shelter in Jackson Rancheria Casino - @rcgoldcounty on Instagram
 

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Siskiyoumom

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Heard that the fire started when a local landowner started a backburn because he was fearful of the fire four ridges away from himself and his property. Being that he was not a trained fire fighter, started the blaze in over 100 degree temps, during the windiest part of the day, with a humidity level of 2% means that his selfish callous action has resulted in at least on civilian death, the lost of hundreds of homes and businesses, and put into harms way many emergency service folks and residents.

I read that the fight at the gas station happened after the fire started not before. It would be interesting to learn what the truth in all this really is.

In regards to some folks thinking Red Cross is only in it for the money, they spend that money raised in the local area to help with businesses having some income during a disaster, they purchase all the food supplies and clean up gear for families in flood type disasters, they have no way to process thousands of pounds of donated crappy clothing and blankets. Sure some folks donate quality goods and many do not.

I worked as a RC volunteer during a local flood event in the early 2,000's. A local resident not connected to any emergency service group got his five seconds of flame claiming there was no water in Humboldt County Red Cross shelters. He had never even set foot in one.

Safeway ended up diverting from Sonoma County five tractor/trailer loads of water which they had purchased from a brewing company to come to the shelter I was managing. No calls warning they were on the way. In fact, the shelters in Sonoma needed the water and we did not.

So communication is key and that is why counties and states have Emergency Operations Centers.

As a volunteer at the pit after 911 I saw the budget and the costs to run shelters, respite centers, food trucks and clean up kits in NYC and Red Cross paid for all the goods and services and I know some folks here are still hating the organization.

So be it. I donated food and cash at the local feed store that is being driven down to the large and small animal shelter in Lake County. The folks there are coordinating with OES to get the correct supplies to those in need. The local effort is being coordinated with Pay It Foward Humboldt, which formed as a face book group after our fires earlier this summer. They coordinated with the Salvation Army on getting clean needed clothing, household goods, and food kits to those directly affected by the fires.

Donate or give your time to help if you are able.

I learned running a Red Cross shelter that the core reason Red Cross cannot accept home grown food, home butchered foods, home canned foods is that a resident of a shelter became ill after eating a meal made with canned vegetables, went to the hospital and promptly sued the RC.

The policy to buy local in a disaster still stands and I do not begrudge for doing so.

My opinion probably does not matter to those who hate RC. Oh well...

And in regards to folks evacuating, many did not get a reverse 911 call to leave and many had moments to realize, oh crud, I have to get out of here.

There are many disasters one can prep for and sometimes it comes so hard and fast you have to just get up and leave with what ever is at hand.
 

Siskiyoumom

Veteran Member
Melody, Thank you for the link to the fb page for helping folks out. Tons of kind hearted folks with practical help with basic needs. The optometrist offering free eyeglasses and contacts, the Redwood Bank processing donations that then go directly back to the community and organizations working in the aftermath, folks driving from far way with horse/stock trailers and feed. On family plight shared was a couple with twin six year old sons with autism, and one in the hospital due to injury from the fire. My heart is bursting with all the love and care shown on the one fb page. Prayers up for all in harms way, for survivors and for those who are still trying to locate lost loved ones.
 

Siskiyoumom

Veteran Member
This is the "civlian" who lost her life.
Information from a Jennifer Hittson's fb posting of her battle to try and check and get her 72 year old friend who was incapacitated from MS to safety.....

I'm just sick with grief.

Yesterday I left Barbara's house at approximately 3 pm.

When I reached the end if Anderson springs there were officers at the entrance of Anderson springs directing traffic away from 175.

At this point I realized it was a fire, but I didn't realize the seriousness if it. I took the long way home through Lowerlake instead of going 175 and Bottle Rock.

When I got home I checked Facebook and realized that I needed to get in touch with Barbara to get her out of there.

She is 72yrs old and has advanced MS, making it difficult for her to move herself around.

She has no vehicle, as she cannot drive, and I knew she would not even be able to make it off of her porch without help.

I called and her phone was busy, so I emailed her.

I was finally able to talk to her at 6:30, and I told her that I was going to call the sheriff to get her.

When I called the sheriff, they informed me that they were too busy handling evacuees to check on her, but they would go when they could.

I called again after 10:00, only to be told the same thing It was then that I leaned of the number to cal fire.

When I called them, they promised they would get out to her and asked me to call back in 30 minutes for an update.

When I caked back I was informed again that they were not able to get her, but they reassured me that she was probably fine.

As far as they knew the fire had not reached that far up in Anderson springs yet.

Today I was in contact with her daughter, and she had been told by cal fire that they could not confirm if they had gotten her out or not, but to check the local evacuation centers.

Ron and I went to all the evacuation centers in kelseyville and no one had any record of her.

All day I tried to find a way to get up to her, but we were stopped at highway 29 and told that we were not allowed to go in that direction.

We tried back rds, and could not find a way to gain access to bottle rock rd.

I tried calling cal fire an uncountable amount of times though the day, but the line just rang and rang.

I stayed in communication with her daughter all day, and at approximately 530 today Barbara's neighbour was able to go up and see that the entire house was gone, and it was believed that she was still in the house at the time the fire hit.

I then called the sheriff again to see if they could at least go out and confirm...again I was told they would get out when they could and there was nothing more they could do about it.

I was finally able to get through to cal fire at6:30 today.

They were very kind, but could only advise me to call the sheriff because they were in charge of missing persons.

Through Facebook, we learned that that a friend of ours was trying to get through her driveway, and literally watched as her house burned with her inside.

I really dont even know why I'm sharing all of this, except I feel like the ball was dropped somewhere, and I feel like although I did everything I could, she could have been saved.

The coroner has been called out, and it was confirmed that she did pass away in her home.

We have been in contact with her daughter, who is surrounded by loved ones, and doing okay despite their loss.

I really just cannot believe that this is happening. This is such a nightmare

Please pray for her family and all us facing the aftermath of the fires.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
This is so sad. A list can be prepared identifying the medically fragile who need assistance ahead of time. Generally, it is the Public Health Dept. in coordination with the Sheriff's Dept.( functioning under the County Emergency Operations Center) that can make sure that people on the list are evacuated or have medicines (in other disasters like snow.)
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Below is the new facebook group for lost and found pets affected by these fires - they are a public group (you don't have to ask to join) and if you have pets you are worried about they would probably one of the first places you could contact - they should know what the process is; they are already found one burned (but expected to live cat) and help reunite it with its owner.

BeWell thank you for that information; I know that a lot of fires are "stupid accidents" like the guy with the back fire; with the Oakland Hills fire, I think they traced it to someone illegally burning a tiny amount of garage. They had buried the fire and it look to a layperson like it was out, but it wasn't and it erupted the next day when the high winds came and flared it up.

Others are outright arson, I agree on heavy penalties but until recently most of the people they find are really mentally ill and throwing them in jail for years doesn't really solve much (except of course to keep them from lighting more) but this new threat of trained terrorists lighting fires is well, truly terrifying. It is bad enough when nutters kill people and destroy millions in property but at least most are not totally responsible for themselves (though society has to contain them) but anyone who DOES understand what they are doing and does it intentionally with the intent to kill people - well I am generally not in favor of the death penalty but if I were on a jury I'd would not protest to hard in such as case, especially if the perp admitted it.

Our close friends house probably is gone, still not certain but all the other houses on the block are reported gone; he can stay with is wife (they been separated for decades but still friends and still legally married) but I keep thinking how terrible to loose everything you spent a life time putting together.

Harbin lost the conference centers, most of the buildings; a couple of cabins and a few sleeping pods (along with the concrete and stone statues) are still there and most importantly the hot springs pools are still flowing (but of course the buildings will have to rebuilt and the pools cleaned before people can use them).

So far the the other has not affected my friends with the retirement home but they are on alert...
Facebook group for lost and found pets.
https://www.facebook.com/Valley-Fire-Lake-County-Lost-or-Found-Pets-898329660260383/timeline/
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Sheriff's office to offer escorted visits into evacuation areas to take care of livestock, pets
Monday, 14 September 2015 21:56 Lake County News reports


LAKE COUNTY, Calif. – on Tuesday, Lake County Sheriff's deputies will escort residents to their homes in order to take care of or pick up livestock and pets that were left during the initial evacuation, the sheriff's office said Monday night.

Lt. Steve Brooks said residents must be able to provide identification in order to be allowed into the evacuation area.

The escorts will begin at 10 a.m. and end promptly at 5 p.m., Brooks said.

The sheriff’s office will work to get as many residents to their animals during this time frame. If residents who request an escort cannot be assisted due to the number of escorts requested, the sheriff’s office will work to schedule additional escorts in coming days, Brooks said.

Residents must meet the following criteria:

– Have photo identification listing a residence address in the evacuation area;

– Intend only to retrieve or feed animals.

– Residents must be ready with all food or equipment necessary to accomplish their task.

– Residents must be able to complete the intended task in no more than 15 minutes.

All residents requesting an escort will need to be at the appropriate locations below by 9 a.m.:

– Residents requesting to enter properties on the Kelseyville side of Cobb Mountain off of Bottle Rock Road, Highway 175 or in the Clear Lake Riviera will meet in the dirt parking lot behind the football stadium at Kelseyville High School.

– Residents requesting to enter properties south of Lower Lake, Hidden Valley Lake, Middletown and Cobb will meet in the main parking lot of the Lower Lake High School.

Brooks said no escorts will be made to properties in the communities of Loch Lomond or Anderson Springs due to ongoing firefighting efforts.

No escorts will be made into active fire areas, Brooks said.


Brooks said no escorts will be made for residents requesting medications, clothes or any other personal items.

Residents needing medications should see their doctor or go to the emergency rooms for assistance, he said.


Last Updated ( Monday, 14 September 2015 22:11 )
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mzkitty

I give up.
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Valley Fire in California's Lake, Napa and Sonoma counties is now 67,000 acres and 15% contained, officials say - @CALFIRE_PIO


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California fire officials: Butte Fire in Amador and Calaveras counties is now 71,660 acres, 37% contained - @CALFIRE_PIO
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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Photo: More than 600 evacuees sleeping outside in tents, RVs or cars at Napa County, Calif., fairgrounds due to Valley Fire - @AveriHarper
 

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mzkitty

I give up.
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Photo: Firefighters continue to put out hot spots in the Middletown, Calif., neighborhood, where the Valley Fire raced through on Saturday - @amyhollyfield
 

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mzkitty

I give up.
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Photo: Smoky sunrise over Middletown, Calif., due to Valley Fire -
@BrianFloresKTVU
 

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kittyluvr

Veteran Member
Update: I just spoke to the West Point Fire department and we are still under mandatory evacuation. The report yesterday about the fire breaching the line at the South Fork of the Mokelumne river was "erroneous." The fire is being held at the river about 2.5 miles from my house. They do not have a containment line on the NE side of the fire in my area. Fire officials are concerned about the storm coming in tomorrow with its associated winds.

I asked about the possibility of being let in to feed the kittens I left behind by Friday and was told it does not look good. The only ones allowed in the area are resources fighting the fire and sheriffs providing security. Not even PG&E is allowed in the area to work on the power lines.

I guess I should just be thankful my house is still there and we have a place to stay for now. But, it is getting very hard to remain positive.

Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Thank you for the update kittyluvr. At least the report about fir jumping the line was wrong. Maybe contact animal rescue people as suggested above? They may have an "in" to be able feed/get kitties? How old are your kitties? They can survive without food amazingly long - try not to worry - you left them food and water for a week -
 

kittyluvr

Veteran Member
Incident Name Butte - Amador County

State CA

Lead Agency CAL FIRE AEU

Size (acres) 71,660

Percent Contained 37

Estimate of Containment unknown

Personnel 4,596

Structures Lost 277

September 15, 2015 at 6:49 AM

Today's control objectives are to keep the fire:

North of the Stanislaus River
South of Ridge, Sutter Creek Volcano, Pioneer Creek and Mill Creek Roads and the Mokelumne River
East of Hwy 49
West of the Stanislaus National Forest DPA boundry

Weather forecast:

Strong south to southwest winds will continue today with gusts around 30 mph in exposed locations. Isolated showers are possible across the area today but little measurable rainfall is expected. A cold front will approach from the northwest on Wednesday, increasing southwest winds ahead of the front. High pressure will return for the end of the week with temperatures creeping back into the 90s by the weekend.

Fire behavior forecast:

The northeast portion in the Mokelumne River drainage will be active with a strong southwest wind increasing spread to the east. The drainage splits into two main branches with a dominant ridge in-between. The fire has progressed to the east on the south side of the south fork of the Mokelumne River. There is a high potential for spot fires on the ridge dividing the south fork and the middle fork of the Mokelumne River, with spread into the drainage of the north fork of the Mokelumne River. (Note: I live just south of the Middle Fork of the Mokelumne River) The east side of the fire has transition areas from trees and brush into grass fields. Spotting into these fields is a strong possibility with the increasing wind. These spots will have a moderate to rapid rate of spread and will transition again into brush and timber. The south portion of the fire is in the grass oak woodland, which has the high potential for spot fires, however the wind should be more favorable for control efforts. There is still potential for a spot to cross the line with the increasing wind and get into the San Antonio Creek drainage. The east side of the fire is also in the grass oak woodland and will have favorable winds during and changing directions across the line in the overnight hours. Spotting potential will be reduced in the overnight hours but is still a strong possibility. Air operations will be limited until the smoke lifts out of the area.

September 15, 2015 at 6:36 AM

CAL FIRE PIO: Just In - The Butte Fire in Amador & Calaveras counties is now 71,660 acres & 37% contained.

http://yubanet.com/2015Local/ButteAEU.php
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Fire just moved, friend with her horse is racing up to try to get him out in time; I imagine she will report back in when they get him to safety; probably the Napa fair grounds first...
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Friend posted 4 minutes ago, fire made a sudden rush and there is no way she can make it in time - the stable owners phone is no longer working, she is praying there is time for humans to let them free and give them a chance to run; her horse is quite elderly but may still have a chance if they can be let loose. Of course tragic as the loss of the horses would be, that of humans would be much worse; I gather this happened very quickly and almost without warning (at least any warning that there was so little time).

I'll be going to bed soon but I can post more in the morning on this if I hear anything, I know this is just one person and one horse but the thing is I know them...
 

mzkitty

I give up.
How horrifying, Melodi. Prayers for the horses.

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Photo: Line of cars heading toward Valey Fire evacuation site in Kelseyville, Calif. - @laura_nelson
 

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Bardou

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Lumpkin Rd fire in Butte County (Oroville) is now 850 acres and only 20% contained. I have friends up there, one of them owns a bar in Feather Falls, and one in Oroville. DH has a coworker who just built a house up there. People are being evacuated to the Church of the Nazarene. Wind has died down for the day and no rain. Copters have quit flying for the night. The big fire fighting planes have moved to the Lake County fire.

http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=1224
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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Butte Fire burning in Amador and Calaveras counties in California is now 71,780 acres and 40% contained, fire officials say - @CALFIRE_PIO
 

Be Well

may all be well
I hope Kittluvr checks in. I keep doing news searches but can't find any specifics on her area, and for some reason these fires are not on Inciweb.
 

kittyluvr

Veteran Member
Nothing new to report here. Thank you Mzkitty for the update.

I was just watching our local fox 40 news talking about looting in my area. They interviewed a resident of my area stating looters are dressing up as firefighters, pretty sad... When fox40 talked to the Sheriff dept, they said no reports of looting in my area. Well, I had talked to our sheriff substation this morning and the women said that the Calaveras county sheriff was NOT taking reports about looting in our area. So I called the Fox 40 newsroom and they are going to look into the situation for me. Fox 40 said they will call me tomorrow and let me know what happened.

As for me, if the fire doesn't advance and the winds are down by Friday, I am going home and feeding my kitties. I don't care. They are letting people back in the other side of the county to feed animals. Our side of Calaveras county has always had problems receiving the same level of service as other areas. I finally got a hold of Animal Services to get my name on the list in case they do have some limited escorted time back into our area for feeding animals left behind.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Nothing new to report here. Thank you Mzkitty for the update.

I was just watching our local fox 40 news talking about looting in my area. They interviewed a resident of my area stating looters are dressing up as firefighters, pretty sad... When fox40 talked to the Sheriff dept, they said no reports of looting in my area. Well, I had talked to our sheriff substation this morning and the women said that the Calaveras county sheriff was NOT taking reports about looting in our area. So I called the Fox 40 newsroom and they are going to look into the situation for me. Fox 40 said they will call me tomorrow and let me know what happened.

As for me, if the fire doesn't advance and the winds are down by Friday, I am going home and feeding my kitties. I don't care. They are letting people back in the other side of the county to feed animals. Our side of Calaveras county has always had problems receiving the same level of service as other areas. I finally got a hold of Animal Services to get my name on the list in case they do have some limited escorted time back into our area for feeding animals left behind.

That sounds good, kittluvr. At least your pro-active efforts and planning to get to the kitties to feed and water them. Why on EARTH is the Sheriff not taking reports of looters? I hope you contact state reps about that! Looters when people are evacuated should be SHOT. They are scum. Is the Calaveras sheriff a decent man? That sounds crazy, not to take reports of looters.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Great report from "horse lady" - Solomon is the elderly horse - I am sure there were other updates but this is the important one and I have to go out for awhile so I wanted to post the good news now..

Well we had to slam on the brakes thanks to idiot drivers but were ok. The trailer divider came undone and the pin got bent.
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but we got them off the trailer. Solomon Evsson backed down ok, despite screaming like a stallion and running around all crest-necked, showing off for the new horses. He wasn't scared. He kept grabbing the hay and running around with it in his mouth. Heh.

Charlie Horse has to have been a seasoned ranch horse earlier in his life. He stood with the divider leaning on him, backed out off the trailer really carefully, and was a very good, CALM boy.

Solomon thinks he is a stallion, I am pretty sure.

But they are ok! And I am spending the night here. Coming home tomorrow. Inhaled a lot of smoke, throat burns, but we just managed to outrun that fire so we are doing great!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Update - they got out three other horses and two barn cats too!

Here is a photo of Solomon who now believes he "owns" the rescue ranch he has been taken too,
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Posting in case this is useful information for anyone - it was posted on the fire facebook list:

If you have BURNED OR INJURED PETS IN NEED OF HELP from the fire!! Please call CLEARLAKE VETERINARY CLINIC -- 707-696-0678
I am a Veterinarian here & coordinating care in this area!
If you have large animals or small animals in need of food or water in evacuated areas, let me know on here & I can forward to the appropriate people.
Thank you!!!
Brie Duff, DVM
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
I just want to add my thanks and appreciation, not only to the awesome firefighters, but also to those who have animals and are making heroic efforts, risking their own safety, to care for their animals. Humans can listen to the news, and run. The animals have no such ability to know what's coming up the next valley (excepting their senses, which can panic them as easily as guide them). They are our adoptees and we are responsible for them. Kudos to all of you. Really helps restore my much-battered faith in humans beings.
 

kittyluvr

Veteran Member
We are still evacuated. I received a response from Calaveras County Animal Services stating that they do not have the authority and are not coordinating getting people in the fire evacuation area to feed animals. They could send a animal services officer to my residence to check on them. My house is locked with security doors so I am so glad I did not give them my address or I am sure they would have been more than happy to break into my house. On the bright side the power is back on at my house. Please pray for me today as I am very upset at the whole situation with my kitties and the idiotic response from our county. I know for a fact they were escorting people on the other side of the county to their residences to retrieve/feed animals. Please forgive me for being so negative today.

Butte Fire update:

71,780 acres with 45% containment

Expected containment: September 24, 2015

Cause: Still under investigation

Personnel: 4,961

Structures lost: 408

September 16, 2015 at 7:34 AM

Control objectives again today are to keep the fire:

1. North of the Stanislaus River
2. South of Ridge, Sutter Creek Volcano, Pioneer Creek and Mill Creek Roads and the North Fork of the Mokelumne River
3. East of Highway 49
4. West of the Stanislaus National Forest DPA boundry

Weather and fire behavior forecast

Today will be the last day of the cooler weather and slightly increased humidity. The humidity will decrease from the day before, however there is still a slight chance of showers. Temperatures will be 63-70 degrees during the day and 46-53 degrees overnight. The minimum humidity will be 35-45% during the day and 55- 63% overnight. The winds will be south to southwest 6-10 mph with gusts to 13 mph in the valleys/slopes and 15-20 mph with gust to 30 mph on the ridges during the day. Winds overnight will continue to be from the southwest 10-15 mph with gust to 25 on the ridges and slightly less in the valleys and slopes, until midnight.

The fine fuels in the area were able to recover for most of the day on Tuesday, however by late afternoon they began to dry out. The skies will be clear in the morning increasing the drying on the fuels. The heavier fuels have had no recovery with the higher humidity and are available to burn. The potential for spot fires will increase when the fuels are exposed to the sun. Rates of spread and Probability of Ignition will continue to increase as the fuels continue to dry over the next 24-48 hours. This also has the potential for previous spot fires to become active.

The northeast portion of the fire, in the middle and south fork of the Mokelumne River, will once again have a southwest wind. This wind can blow embers across the line or across the canyon. Be aware of any flare ups of brush near the line or trees in the area of the line or on the ridges. The wind will be strong enough to carry embers 1 /3 to 3/4 of a mile. These embers may turn into spot fires as the humidity decreases. The east side of the fire also has the potential for spot fires as the wind will continue to blow across the line. The south and west portions of the fire will have less of a problem from spot fires in general but terrain can create eddies in the wind, directing it back across the line. Any spot fire will have a moderate to rapid rate of spread dependent on the fine dead fuel moisture. Remember the spread of this fire has been determined by the spotting ahead of the fire front.

Air operations will be limited until the smoke lifts out of the area, in the late morning or early afternoon.

September 16, 2015 at 7:15 AM

Minimal activity overnight.

http://yubanet.com/2015Local/ButteAEU.php

Evacuation listing from Cal fire as of September 16, 2015 7:00 am:


(Calaveras County) West Murray Creek/Murraydale Lane (entire street). Fricot City Road North of Sheep Ranch Road. Fricot City Road is closed 1 mile East of the intersection of Calaveritas Road and Fricot City Road. Fricot City Road is also closed in Sheep Ranch. The areas north along Sheep Ranch Road at Avery Sheep Ranch to the intersection of Morris Rd/Valley View Road. The entire area of Railroad Flat.

Hwy 26 in Mokelumne Hill at Italian Vista to West Point all areas to include Glencoe, Westpoint and Wilseyville. Bald Mountain Road, Winton Road Blue Mountain Road, Mitchell Mill Road, Skunk Hollow Road.

Evacuations Advisory:

(Amador County) Canyon View, Fig Tree Lane, and Pondersosa Way; Tabeau Road south of Arrowhead to Amador Road, Ranch Drive and Aqueduct Grove Road. Hwy 88 from Ranch Road East to Tiger Creek Road (Red Corral and Buckhorn Areas).

***All previously mandatory evacuated areas being re-populated are still under evacuation advisory. The public is reminded that there are still emergency vehicles and personnel working in the area. Please use caution and remain alert to any changes in fire conditions***

(Calaveras County) The corridor along Hwy 49 from the Amador County Line south to the city limits of Angels Camp and all areas east of Hwy 49 that were previously released are now under an advisory. The areas southeast of Calaveritas Road to Costa Road. The areas along Fricot City Road along the southside to Sheep Ranch Road. The areas South of Avery Sheep Ranch Road to Morris Road in Avery. The town of Murphys, Forrest Meadows, Avery and along the Hwy 4 corridor from Avery to Arnold, including the town of Arnold.

http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=1221
 

Be Well

may all be well
Kittluvr, how many days has it been? This is awful that on the other side of the county people with animals are treated differently then where you are. Maybe try to call your state represtentative. Sometimes just demanding and not giving up can get results!

ETA: Or maybe some County person. Maybe if they hear from you enough in no uncertain terms, they'll let you go feed/water them just so they won't hear from you any more. Or you could even get them.
 
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kittyluvr

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Be Well, we left last Thursday at around 4:30 pm, so the kitties have been alone for 6 days now.

A little funny story, yesterday our sheriff put out a Public Service Notice touting his new website butte.calaverasgov.us for all Butte Fire information for Calaveras County residents. One little problem, under the evacuation listing it only listed areas on the other side of the county. Not West Point, Wilseyville, Glencoe or Railroad Flat. So I first contacted West Point fire to verify we were still under mandatory evacuation orders. I next called the non emergency sheriff number and let them know of the omission. Of course, our sheriff's office claimed to know nothing about the website they set up. I also asked them if West Point and Wilseyville were still part of the county (just trying to be silly). The lady kept claiming ignorance and referring me to the Cal Fire website. So I told well her if you all don't correct it, I will assume we are okay to come home. Guess what, the evacuations list was corrected first thing this morning.

You would think since both our County Supervisor and Water District supervisor are evacuated their would be pressure to accommodate evacuees in our area.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Oh, that is icky. Corruption at the county level can seriously mess things up, my county is ultra corrupt. Then state rep!!!! I want you in there to see the kitties!!!!

BTW I was thinking once you are reunited with them, you could accustom them to the carrier by putting a nice blanket it in, occasional treats and leaving it in a place they can see and get into on a daily basis, the laundry room or something? Then they will probably gradually associate it with just another place to hang out and eat something nice once in a while.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Marsh, did you watch that short video from in the car of someone escaping the fire? I THINK it was the Valley fire but can't remember

Do you know why these fires are not listed on Inciweb? There must be some organizational reason but the fires in Trinity/Siskyou forest were on Inciweb. The Valley and Butte fires are only on the Cal fire website.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
Inciweb must be FRA (federal response area) only - where National Forces respond. This would be BLM (Bureau of Land Management,) USFS (US Forest Service) NPS (National Park Service) and USFWS (US Fish and Wildlife Service for Wildlife Refuges.) The other fires were SRA - state responsibility on private land, where CalFire responds. However, Gov. Brown has declared a state of emergency. If local state response forces are overwhelmed, he can ask for federal disaster assistance under the Stafford Act. I think the feds are pretty busy though.
 
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