POL Biden To Hold News Conference Today (1/19), 4 PM ET

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vector7

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packyderms_wife said:
watching it? I'm guessing taping it and rewatching it multiple times.
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Bumblepuff

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"Tell Joe to get this damn news conference over with as soon as possible. There's an ice cream vendor holding two jumbo
triple-scoop ice cream cones, and they're dripping on the floor! Call the janitor. We need a little incursion with his wet vac."​
 
Melodi

Melodi

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Honestly, I watched the whole thing, OK I fell asleep somewhere for a few moments but you guys filled it in; but still, I honestly think the greatest damage this speech just did was to foreign relations and the situation in Ukraine.

He all but gave Putin permission to "invade" as long as it was a "little bit" (or tip) and he implied it again when called to the carpet on it.

There are going to be a lot of sleepless nights in the US Pentangle, Puzzle Palace, State Department, Military HQs in the US and all over Europe, and of course in Ukraine itself. Moscow is now trying to "read the TV leaves," Putin almost certainly stayed up to watch this and I'll bet his advisors have just been called in for a 2 am briefing and brainstorming session.

While this whole thing was kind of a mess, on this one topic, history MAY have been changed - I am not saying it will be changed but it might be.
 
TheSearcher

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Are you sure about that?
Melodi said:
Honestly, I watched the whole thing, OK I fell asleep somewhere for a few moments but you guys filled it in; but still, I honestly think the greatest damage this speech just did was to foreign relations and the situation in Ukraine.

He all but gave Putin permission to "invade" as long as it was a "little bit" (or tip) and he implied it again when called to the carpet on it.

There are going to be a lot of sleepless nights in the US Pentangle, Puzzle Palace, State Department, Military HQs in the US and all over Europe, and of course in Ukraine itself. Moscow is now trying to "read the TV leaves," Putin almost certainly stayed up to watch this and I'll bet his advisors have just been called in for a 2 am briefing and brainstorming session.

While this whole thing was kind of a mess, on this one topic, history MAY have been changed - I am not saying it will be changed but it might be.
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Well said ma'am, well said. And quite sad.
 
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jward said:
Kaitlan Collins
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Ukrainians aren't pleased with President Biden's comment about a potential "minor incursion" by Russia. A Ukrainian official tells @mchancecnn they are worried it "gives the green light to Putin to enter Ukraine at his pleasure."
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Bidet’s statement, vis-a-vis Ukraine, was likening Russian aggression to being a little bit pregnant, or a little bit dead. He, Bidet, doesn’t give a shit, if his Chinese masters are happy. Likewise, Bidet probably doesn’t even know where he is, if it’s not on the commode, having his diaper changed, getting his lukewarm Bosco, or his nap. Complicated guy, eh?

If ALL traitors aren’t thrown out in November, it’ll be BOHICA time— again…

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Bubble Head

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That SOB has sold us out and our allies to the point of world war. Nobody to lift a finger to stop him. Parts of the US are no go zones and an on going foreign invasion through are southern border is going to make this world war more than personnel and up close. Worthless piece of dog :poop:.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Biden predicts Russia 'will move in' to Ukraine, but says 'minor incursion' may prompt discussion over consequences


President Joe Biden on Wednesday predicted Russia "will move in" to Ukraine, citing existential concerns by the country's president, Vladimir Putin, even as he warned of significant economic consequences should such an incursion occur.
But he suggested a "minor incursion" would elicit a lesser response than a full-scale invasion of the country.
"I'm not so sure he is certain what he is going to do. My guess is he will move in. He has to do something," Biden said, describing a leader searching for relevance in a post-Soviet world. "He is trying to find his place in the world between China and the west."
Biden's prediction of an invasion is the firmest acknowledgment to date the United States fully expects Putin to move after amassing 100,000 troops along the Ukraine border.


After speaking with Putin twice last month, Biden said he believed his Russian counterpart had a good understanding of the economic sanctions he was preparing to enact.
"He's never seen sanctions like the ones I promised will be imposed if he moves, number one," he said, adding the level of punishment would depend on what Russia's invasion looks like. "It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, et cetera."
"But if they actually do what they're capable of doing with the forces amassed on the border, it is going to be a disaster for Russia if they further invade Ukraine. And that our allies and partners are ready to impose severe cost and significant harm on Russia and the Russian economy," he said.

That includes limiting Russian transactions in US financial institutions -- "anything that involves dollar denominations," Biden said.
A Ukrainian official told CNN's Matthew Chance that he is "shocked that the US President Biden would distinguish between incursion and invasion" and suggest that a minor incursion would not trigger sanctions but an invasion would.
"This gives the green light to Putin to enter Ukraine at his pleasure," the official added.
The Ukrainian official said he'd never heard any nuance like this from the US administration before.
"Kyiv is stunned," he added, referring to the Ukrainian government.

In explaining the reference to a "minor incursion" prompting a discussion among Western allies over how to respond, Biden suggested disunity with NATO could lead to debate over how to punish Russia for actions in Ukraine that fall short of a full-scale invasion.
"If there is something that is where there's Russian forces crossing the border, killing Ukrainian fighters, et cetera, I think that changes everything," the President said. "But it depends on what he does, to what extent we'll get total unity on the NATO front."
"It's very important that we keep everyone in NATO on the same page. That's what I'm spending a lot of time doing, and there are differences. There are differences in NATO as to what countries are willing to do, depending on what happens," he added.

Emily Horne, spokeswoman for Biden's National Security Council, said on Twitter that Biden "was referring to the difference between military and non-military/para-military/cyber action by the Russians. Such actions would be met by a reciprocal response, in coordination with Allies and partners."
The President also warned Russian lives would be lost in an invasion, along with potential Ukrainian casualties.
"The cost of going into Ukraine in terms of physical loss of life for the Russians -- they'll be able to prevail over time but it's going to be heavy," he said. "It's going to be real. It's going to be consequential. Putin has a stark choice. Either de-escalation or diplomacy. Confrontation and consequences."

"This is not all just a cake walk for Russia," he went on. "Militarily, they have overwhelming superiority. And as it relates to Ukraine, they'll pay a stiff price immediately, near term, medium term and long term if they do it."
Biden speculated Putin was not seeking "any full-blown war," but said he did believe he was looking for some type of confrontation.
"Do I think he'll test the west? Test the United States and NATO as significantly as he can? Yes, I think he will. But I think he'll pay a serious and dear price for it."
"He doesn't think now will cost him what it's going to cost him," he said. "And I think he'll regret having done it."
Biden later acknowledged the uncertainty surrounding the situation.

"The only thing I am confident of is that decision is totally, solely, completely Putin's decision. Nobody else is going to make that decision. No one else is going to impact that decision. He's making that decision. And I suspect it matters which side of the bed he gets up on in the morning as to exactly what he's going to do," Biden said.
He said senior US officials who had met recently with their Russian counterparts came away from the talks uncertain whether anyone aside from Putin truly knew what he planned to do.
"I believe he's calculating what the immediate short-term and the near-term and the long-term consequences of Russia will be. And I don't think he's made up his mind yet," he said.

Biden's prediction came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday urged Ukrainians to not panic and to "calm down" over fears of a possible Russian invasion.
"All our citizens, especially the elderly, need to understand this: Everyone needs to exhale. Calm down. Don't run for emergency supplies like buckwheat and matches. To all the media: Remain as the media, not become a source of mass hysteria. Do not help the enemy in the pursuit of hype by reporting daily that war may happen tomorrow! This will definitely not stop it."

"What is new here? Is this not the reality for the past eight years? Didn't the invasion begin in 2014? Did the threat of the war emerge just now?" he said.
The only reason for "panic is that after eight years we are still influenced by this panic," he added.
Zelensky said Russia's "aim is to weaken Ukraine" in order to force Kyiv to concede to Moscow and "to create such a background that our 'no' sounds weaker."
The Ukrainian leader said Moscow is "actively attacking your nerves, not our state. So that you have a constant feeling of panic."



jward said:
Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
6m

Ukrainians aren't pleased with President Biden's comment about a potential "minor incursion" by Russia. A Ukrainian official tells @mchancecnn they are worried it "gives the green light to Putin to enter Ukraine at his pleasure."
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Codeno

Codeno

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Housecarl:
"The number of national capitals where snap meetings are being called over this are legion. I'm guessing not only are plans being made or updated but timetables are being moved forward as well."

Yep, and Joe is probably just starting to feel the downers kick in while he slobbers a bit of pudding down his chin.

You really couldn't make this stuff up.
 
desert_fox

desert_fox

Threadkiller
On the topic of voting: Why do I get the feeling of why they are pushing a failed bill is to try and nullify the 2022 midterms? Even though we have had the most "honest" elections (if that was true) why push to change it? I wouldn't be surprised for them to cry foul at the midterms.
 
et2

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Watched some of it. I laugh when he says “ I‘ve created more jobs in 1 year than any other president. What he doesn’t say is … he got his blue state governors to crash our economy beyond repair in one year ( Covid) … under Trump. But here’s the secret … did all those who lost jobs get new jobs under him? Nope. You see it’s a scam. He never replaced “all“ the lost jobs and shut down business.

It’s just a number that is perhaps true, but the real picture is there’s still way more people out of work that we don’t hear about. It was planned and it’s a scam. He’s trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We lost more jobs since the Great Depression. Therefore you would hire more especially taking in consideration the population growth. It’s smoke and mirrors folks.

Every single client of mine is struggling to get workers. All you have to do is look at empty shelves, supply chain issues, cars shortages, etc. If SFB economy is so good why is he sending checks out every month to keep families happy.

He’s a Crime boss. He and his son stole, bribed, and colluded with many of the world players. Now he’s scamming the American people. He will suck us dry … along with Kamalacackalot.

He surely could start WWIII. He did a good job today of showing how arrogant he is. As Quid Pro Quo Joe would say … if you think I’m kidding … just call Obama.

Grifter of epic proportions
 
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