Greenspode
Veteran Member
If it can, and did, kill someone, then isn't it just a gun? What, exactly, is supposed to be the difference between a "gun" and a "prop gun"?
OT/MISC Alec Baldwin Fired Prop Gun That Killed Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and Injured Director. New Charges Filed!
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bw
Fringe Ranger
They look nothing like a live round to anyone familiar with them. To an actor, they're all the same just like everything is an AK-47.
bw
Fringe Ranger
If they can turn in a good performance, I don't give a rip who they vote for. I don't watch them for their politics.
Sicario
The Executor
I've destroyed all my movies with Robert DiNero, Jim Carrey, and every other super-liberal asshole who can't just act but feel compelled to run their commie pie holes against conservative, traditional America.
I don't compromise with evil, but you feel free to do so if you wish. Isn't FREEDOM awesome?
Oh, and I don't give a f*ck who anyone votes for, but I will not tolerate COMMUNIST, Anti-American rhetoric using their "celebrity" platform.
Sicario
The Executor
Concocting a plausible narrative takes time.
And then there's evidence to be tampered with, witnesses and officials to buy off, etc.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Ahhh, not true. I used to think the same thing, however, have a very good friend working on a movie right now as the firearms safety officer. Real sound effects ARE dubbed in but for the discharge to look real takes extra gun powder or all you get is a "puff" with little or no flash. AND...his biggest headache is dumbarse actors "PLAYING" with the prop guns and pointing them at people.
Liberals should not be allowed within a hundred yards of a firearm...not even a "cap gun" and probably not even a squirt gun!
Alec should be charged with at least accidental homicide and BANNED FOR LIFE from ever touching anything that even slightly resembles a firearm.....even one carved from a bar of soap.
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Sid Vicious
Veteran Member
I've been around more than a few "famous" people. Most of them are absolute morons. A couple were intelligent but the stupid burned sometimes.
Normallguy
"just a human bein'"
Don't drop the soap Alec...
“Discharge” (muzzle flash) and “report” (the sound) are entirely different. Your initial post appeared to be talking about the report. As far as the discharge goes, I understand that.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
They were after a particular shot.
Kayak
Adrenaline Junkie
If your finger is on the trigger, you are responsible for the bullet, wherever it may go. Period. End of story.
Don't rely on others to make sure the gun is safe. Don't trust someone else who says the gun isn't loaded, or it isn't hot. Verify for yourself.
Anyone with basic gun safety training knows these things.
Don't rely on others to make sure the gun is safe. Don't trust someone else who says the gun isn't loaded, or it isn't hot. Verify for yourself.
Anyone with basic gun safety training knows these things.
Deanne
Veteran Member
Why was he pointing a gun period at a person. I think he was being a smart butt
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ohiohippie
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bw
Fringe Ranger
He is an idiot and probably never took any gun safety instruction. Whoever put a gun in his hand bears much of the blame, like handing a gun to a baby.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Me too. It's quite a few decades since Hollywood got a dime offa me.
It's Hollyweird. And there is no such thing as bad publicity.
I wonder if Larry Correia will address this incident. He used to run a business called Fuzzy Bunny Movie Guns ... Monster Hunter Nation
I wonder if Larry Correia will address this incident. He used to run a business called Fuzzy Bunny Movie Guns ... Monster Hunter Nation
Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Baldwin has money and is a leftist darling. He will be immediately lawyered up and have his PR people working the spin machine at full throttle.
By the time they're done, the narrative will be that the evil gun jumped into his hand and fired itself.
And of course we need more gun control.
Best
Doc
By the time they're done, the narrative will be that the evil gun jumped into his hand and fired itself.
And of course we need more gun control.
Best
Doc
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Ping Jockey
Inactive
Very true, although this is only a small microcosm of the left’s horrid motives. What about all those innocents who have been maimed or have died from all the iterations of the cootie jab? What about those innocent families who have not been in attendance when their own family members were in their own death throes? I could go on as the list is endless.
Innocents have always been victims of these bloody cretins. They care not for anyone but themselves and will denounce, maim, mutilate, kill, or have killed anyone and everyone who stands in their demented way.
Karma or, as the good book states, “As ye sow so shall ye reap.” is the ultimate balancer of life. No one escapes their ultimate judgement. I’m pretty sure these spawns of Satan will not have an amen section behind them when standing in judgement before the Lord.
ETA... those innocents will have their due. No one escapes divine justice.
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Dobbin
Faithful Steed
No more Pop-Tarts for Alec. You just don't know what might happen.
He might chew a nuclear warhead shape to drop on Trump.
Dobbin
Tundra Gypsy
Veteran Member
Too bad he didn't try it on himself first....idiot.
They’re all Hollyweird ultra-liberals. There were no “innocents” involved.
This
The Snack Artist
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baldwin fired at the behind camera because that's what the movie sometimes requires. The gun pointing into the camera, etc. While I think this guy is a pos I sure wish this didn't happen. I am calling out the Trump curse though. It's real.
The wadding in the chamber can be lethal. I'll put my money on the fact he was messing around and was like, "Watch this. I'm going to pretend to shoot her." Seen on the comments on Breitbart, "I'm acting my hardest act I've ever acted as an actor."
If you're going to be handling firearms you'd think you would get some remedial training like don't point it at anyone. Always assume it's real and loaded. He'll see zero punishment. If he has a conscience he's not going to be sleeping well for a long time.
The wadding in the chamber can be lethal. I'll put my money on the fact he was messing around and was like, "Watch this. I'm going to pretend to shoot her." Seen on the comments on Breitbart, "I'm acting my hardest act I've ever acted as an actor."
If you're going to be handling firearms you'd think you would get some remedial training like don't point it at anyone. Always assume it's real and loaded. He'll see zero punishment. If he has a conscience he's not going to be sleeping well for a long time.
Or more likely he sexually harassed her with his 63 year old man moves and was rejected. He was afraid of getting caught up in the me too movement and losing big time. It was murder.
They did not have Hollywood regulars, they had locals.
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If firearms are used in a movie a union armorer is ultimately responsible for all weapons. That does not mean guns don't get tampered with by other people but the armorer will load the weapon for the scene. Sometimes the weapon is lying around between takes and can be tampered with. I am always suspect of Alex Baldwin so my view would be bias.
It will be interesting to see what casing is recovered from the weapon. I am assuming a revolver or lever action rifle. We may never know the truth given the murders status. The manor of death is homicide.
It will be interesting to see what casing is recovered from the weapon. I am assuming a revolver or lever action rifle. We may never know the truth given the murders status. The manor of death is homicide.
The Snack Artist
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Update. It was a live round, not a blank. At least that's what I'm reading. So, yeah, through the lady and into the shoulder of the man. baldwin was heard asking why he was given a "Hot Gun". I'd like to know why he acted as if it were a toy and unloaded. There are certain things you can't ever take back. This is one of them.
Sicario
The Executor
So where did his term "Hot Gun" come from and why was one anywhere near that set?
Sicario
The Executor
Training? Instruction? For geniuses? Unheard of. That's for the unwashed dumb-masses. Don't you know that actor's are inherently brilliant. Hell, they tell us so all the time. Why else would the world clamor for their views, opinions and solutions to the world's pressing issues?
ohiohippie
Veteran Member
If my liberal daughter was shot accidentally would it matter if she was hollyweird or not?
Just sayin…Dennis.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
There shouldn't be a "LIVE ROUND" within ten miles of that set.....better fifty miles. Someone screwed up big time and is an accessory to homicide and Alec is an IDIOT and needs to spend some time in jail for being stupid.....and banned from EVER touching a firearm again. He held the gun, he pulled the trigger....he is responsible and should be held fully accountable.
Someone DIED due to HIS negligence and another person is in peril. You can't wash that off or sweep that under a rug.
Someone DIED due to HIS negligence and another person is in peril. You can't wash that off or sweep that under a rug.
Profit of Doom
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Saw a really low budget locally produced movie that kept the original sound of the blanks.