OP-ED A Separation is Coming for Our Nation – Will it be Peaceful?
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Correct. It will be asymmetrical warfare from the get-go. Bombings, snipings, etc.
JF&P
Deceased
Interesting thought Dozdoats...thank You
Outstanding Scriptural Quote Countrymouse...and its coming alive as we speak.
Come quickly Lord Jesus!
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
I see things getting "rough" in '19, but I see it going straight to hell in '20. regardless of who wins in '20, half of the country is going to be very upset. beyond that election it becomes a free for all. if the commies take it in 20 it will be katiey bar the door as they spin out of control in revenge politics. just take a look at the current level of "stupid" but raise it to infinity. if the conservatives take it there will be open rebellion and warfare - similar to what we have now - but far less restrained . . . but this time there will be response from the good guys
I agree that he skipped over the part about the sniping, bombs and general civil unrest although he did a sentence or two about it starting that way. What I found really interesting is how the county by county US map changes the whole strategic situation. He theorizes that the large cities and areas with high concentration of liberals, mostly around big cities will quickly find themselves isolated and separated by vast rural areas. Liberals are almost always concentrated in dense small areas.
This battle may result in anything from a fairly bloodless coup to a complete all out war. There is no way to be sure which. How far people are willing to escalate the level of violence is anyone's guess. As the violence level keeps escalating I can't see why it would stop at any given point if one side is in danger of losing. The Geneva convention goes out the door when you are fighting for your survival..
Also if the war goes on too long, eventually the military will probably roll and that will decide who wins. The question is how soon they roll or if they remain crippled due to internal fighting among themselves. Will they eventually be loyal to Trump or will they support the liberal congress? Who is left in the military after the initial infighting will determine that.
A worse scenario is if part of the military goes to one side and another part goes to the other.
Imagine after a couple hundred thousand people die and if things really get live or die, and a ballistic missile sub decides to end the war by striking a couple of large liberal cities. Cities are much more vulnerable than widely spread out rural areas. A nuke or even the threat of a nuke with an actual demonstration of that capability would probably prompt surrender by the other side.
Also imagine how many civilians shit their pants when a 2000 pound bomb drops in their neighborhood. Again military grade armaments would be most effective against cities and urban areas compared to rural. American civilians have been isolated from war for too long and they will probably change their attitude pretty damn quick once war brings reality back front and center.
But I agree with you, We will see...
heelgeneral
Senior Member
I started reading this thread earlier today, and as I thought about it, this was my conclusion as well.
It really is hard to picture what this will look like, especially in a rural southern area like mine. Most of us on the right have jobs, at least for now (I'm a teacher). Will there even be school, jobs, etc if it gets to that point? How will each side become organized with such chaos going on? Will there be some sort of draft on each side as things go hotter? Will we have to make a choice (assuming we still have a job) whether to continue to work, or join in the fight? How will we even recognize who the enemy is at first glance?
It's been a very thought provoking thread, and the above are just a few of my initial thoughts. I'd like to see this thread continue and read what others think as well.
Or maybe God is dividing our nation. For decades we have had presidents pushing this or that peace deal between the "Palestinians" and Israel and all of them required Israel to give up land God promised them for an eternal inheritance. Look back to when our country seriously began going downhill. Same time frame. God said in the last days Jerusalem would become a burdensome stone for all that concerned themselves with it. Today we have a big dispute about the division of Jerusalem. God said for those that try to cut his land in pieces, He will cut them in pieces. Our nation is already in pieces and it will get worse. Europe is also involved in the Israel/Palestinian peace talks and look at how divided they are. It is not a coincidence. I am eager to see Trump's peace plan and whether it requires Israel to give up land.
^^^ Naw.
Regarding #45:
Many valid comments IMO.
Liberals are almost always concentrated in dense small areas.
Most certainly the above is the case. A few exceptions but not worth consideration.
Also if the war goes on too long, eventually the military will probably roll and that will decide who wins.
That is the $64,000 question and one that depends entirely upon what motivates the military to get involved. When families of the military and the police have their survival on the line you can bet your bippy that Robocop type automatons will not exist. If POTUS is supported by the military and and vice versa that will greatly impact their activity level and probably make it somewhat predictable. If the converse is true then the military becomes a wild card... totally unpredictable.
A worse scenario is if part of the military goes to one side and another part goes to the other.
This is what I see if the military is not supportive of the president. Divisions will be based on a variety of issues in progress at the time.
Also imagine how many civilians shit their pants when a 2000 pound bomb drops in their neighborhood.
I was not involved but from what I have heard many military shit their pants when a 2000 pound bomb drops in their neighborhood.
The second civil war in the FUSA will be atomic. Not nuclear, and perhaps atomized is a better word for it than atomic. Recall the county election maps from 2016 that show clear read and blue areas with a lot of shades of purple in between? Like that.
There will be no clearly defined lines or sides early along. It will be individual and small group combat using small arms almost exclusively. It will be mobile and fast and usually very low intensity. It will also be highly deadly. Here is a quote from a speech by JFK-
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence — on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.
https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives...can-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427
The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961
It would be worthwhile for our august "journalists" of today to review this speech...
For now we normal, traditional Americans are confronted AT HOME by the same enemy JFK described. And therein lie the roots of the next civil war.
There will be no clearly defined lines or sides early along. It will be individual and small group combat using small arms almost exclusively. It will be mobile and fast and usually very low intensity. It will also be highly deadly. Here is a quote from a speech by JFK-
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence — on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.
https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives...can-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427
The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961
It would be worthwhile for our august "journalists" of today to review this speech...
For now we normal, traditional Americans are confronted AT HOME by the same enemy JFK described. And therein lie the roots of the next civil war.
Bumpkin
Old enough to know better
There will probably be multiple manifestations of a modern Pinochet
Bumpkin
Old enough to know better
I have never been in a situation similar to what has been described above, many other people on this board have been involved in warfare, so this is just IMHO. I think this is how it's going to start and maybe how it's going to continue for a while. And I do think that we are closer than we think to the kickoff.
Another "separator" in the "blue" counties is the divide between those who've moved into being "adults" with adult responsibilities and those who are in full blown "Trump derangement" and want to burn it all down. It's one thing to expose socialism and totalitarian views when it's seen as something for everyone else and quite another when actions and consequences derived from beliefs come knocking on your own door.
Such realities in stark sunlight might actually save some lives.
Such realities in stark sunlight might actually save some lives.
Conrad Nimikos
Who is Henry Bowman
I look for the dems to carpet bomb a city of 20 - 50k in an effort to end the war quickly. That will lead to a no quarter war.
The left is willing to lie when ever needed. So when it appears we ( conservs ) are winning expect many of the left to change sides to survive. That is the most dangerous time . Why? Because if we grant clemency we will be fighting this same war in 50 to 100 years. Losing a war will not change any minds and all we can expect is what we have had for the last 100 years. A slow march toward slavery.
The left is willing to lie when ever needed. So when it appears we ( conservs ) are winning expect many of the left to change sides to survive. That is the most dangerous time . Why? Because if we grant clemency we will be fighting this same war in 50 to 100 years. Losing a war will not change any minds and all we can expect is what we have had for the last 100 years. A slow march toward slavery.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Honestly, that makes no sense. No matter what the presidents do, it's still Israel that agrees to the divisions. Why would the US get socked with these punishments?
If we propose actions that prod Israel to give up land, we are as responsible as they are. If Israel didn't have to rely on the US and some EU countries for support in the world, they would make their own decisions. Surely you're not suggesting pressure from us doesn't affect their decisions.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Affect it, maybe, but they're adults. They can make their own calls. They're a sovereign country same as us. They can say no.
Besides, they're the ones who ultimately MAKE the decision. Why are we, who are at worst an influence, poised to get all sorts of divine wrath while Israel just carries on as normal?
Fenwick Babbitt
Veteran Member
yes sir, I'm not getting any younger and my attitude is getting nastier, let's get it on.
Craftypatches
Veteran Member
What I don’t understand is they choose a Democrat leader, don’t they understand we will be ushering in the one world government. People in other countries are sick of it! Why don’t Democrat’s get this and if they do why would they want this? I guess all they see is Obama’s doings which wasn’t there yet but was giving the bait before it happens! And they think we are stupid and deplorable!
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Er, yes and no. The Commie Democrat demons DO want you dead.
TRUMP stands in their way!
One gets the impression that people are expecting George Washington to appear and lead them to the promised land once the revolution is completed.
Dreaming Sheep.
If you are lucky, it will be a Franco or Pinochet. If not lucky, a Lenin or Mao. But you won't like any of them. And neither will they like you.
Useful idiot tools. You "convert" or "atrit" that population and the "pided pipers" out front and behind the curtain become just names on a list.
Fenwick Babbitt
Veteran Member
Bold emphasis, they must be killed, period end of story, eliminated like the sewer rats that they are.
And that's not just a division by county, but also zip code...
And if you look at the nitty gritty of those events, that we even got a Washington to come out of that mess, never mind everyone else, was nothing less than miraculous. To expect a repeat of such long odds is what built Atlantic City and Las Vegas...
The term useful idiot comes to mind.
The people that the progressives are saying should be accepted with open arms and benefit the country are going to be the first people that they are going to have defend themselves from.
BTW - I live in HB (nice reel).
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Are we assuming a 50 / 50 split meaning 50% of the population is right and 50% of the population is leftist?
With the voter fraud, the conservatives may well out number the leftist, any guesses as to the truth numbers?
I would think that the leftist are concentrated in the cities and the rural areas are conservative that would make any type of split difficult.
NW
With the voter fraud, the conservatives may well out number the leftist, any guesses as to the truth numbers?
I would think that the leftist are concentrated in the cities and the rural areas are conservative that would make any type of split difficult.
NW
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Newsflash: the MSM is a CIA owned and operated phenomenon to brainwash and control the populatiOn. All democrats are thoroughly controlled by it. The CIA is owned by an international club of families who indeed want a one world government.
Trump IS our Washington. Perhaps a bit short on the high-level dignity and gravitas of the Father of our Country, but definitely adequately supplied with both courage, determination, and a dedicated cadre of a patriotic military leaders.
In every available forum, make it clear to your friends and neighbors that Trump is the nation’s last hope before total collapse and chaos. Inform all sneering deniers of that fact that “mental health” is a terrible thing to lose, perhaps even worse than losing one’s nation.
greenhart
Veteran Member
In my part of the county the folks are almost all conservatives; they voted for Trump, they're mostly Christian, they have their guns and they are against abortions, gay marriages and such. The problem is they are also mostly asleep. They know little about muslins taking over the EU by invitation, the yellow vest revolution or any other happenings. All they know what they see on TV evening news.
The commie parasites are concentrated in areas that aren't self sustaining.
It wouldn't take much to disrupt the things that enable their existence.
It wouldn't take much to disrupt the things that enable their existence.
Mr. Peabody
Veteran Member
The entire NWO and to some extent Marxism/Maoism, has key points that have become welcomed and totally embraced by the new generation.
Point 1. There is no God. If you put your faith in govt, it will save and protect you from everything, including individuals that are better than you or failure. We're here to help you.
Point 2. You don't have to worry about failing or "making it". Just do your job to your ability. No need to stress about getting ahead. You all will share the misery equally. Everyone will get a trophy.
Point 3. The gross injustice of Christians that spout out biblical verses that say God is higher than govt will be eliminated. Luciferians will be your god, so no need to pray anymore, they will be in control, FINALLY!
Point 4. Food and medicine will be equal for all. You will get food and medicine as long as you toe the line. You will toe the line or no food or medicine.
Point 5. Nasty deplorable types will never again threaten you with guns. The guns will only be possessed by the govt, who, is here to protect you now that you are totally disarmed and helpless, just like the thugs who will be helpless.
Point 6. The world is mess because of capitalistic and biblical beliefs and the lack of acceptance of the real true lord of this world. The NWO is humanistic, not based in some God that kills people for not liking Him. You are human, we are human, so let's all get along. The state is all that matters.
Calfisher
Veteran Member
My Hometown!
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Food, fuel, utilities?
Vtshooter
Veteran Member
This is a good point. Reading the comments from the video, there is one individual who is a liberal, and says when TSHTF, he will stand shoulder to shoulder with republicans to fight the "leftists". Not everybody on the other side of the isle is happy about what the current vocal bunch is doing, and the direction they're taking. That actually puts conservatives in the position of having unexpected allies in the fight. Could be useful.
biere
Veteran Member
While I understand kids these days are "adults" when they achieve 18 years above ground, many act like pre school kids. They believe anything someone tells em. You can tell em someone said x and point em at that person and off they go all mad and what not, and they don't even know why.
When health care had to carried to someplace in the 20s I figured a lot of folks would figure out kids were not raised til they were off your health care.
Ever heard of cannon fodder? That is what a lot of these kids will be. They will be used to draw out the enemy so the real problem can then target their enemy.
Vote. Bury your guns. Dig up your guns. Go live on a homestead. Run to another country. In my opinion it will not matter. A whole lot of folks are dependent on the government.
Some of the tax changes apparently messed with disability somehow. Someone at work did their taxes already, we got w2s last week, and cause wife is on disability and he works he won't get back 3k or so like he expected from last years way of doing things. May get back 600 or so.
I can't say I am certain of this or that it applies to everyone, but if some of the tax changes on write off of state tax on federal tax changed like folks are saying and disability changed like this fella is saying, there is going to be an interesting time coming.
When health care had to carried to someplace in the 20s I figured a lot of folks would figure out kids were not raised til they were off your health care.
Ever heard of cannon fodder? That is what a lot of these kids will be. They will be used to draw out the enemy so the real problem can then target their enemy.
Vote. Bury your guns. Dig up your guns. Go live on a homestead. Run to another country. In my opinion it will not matter. A whole lot of folks are dependent on the government.
Some of the tax changes apparently messed with disability somehow. Someone at work did their taxes already, we got w2s last week, and cause wife is on disability and he works he won't get back 3k or so like he expected from last years way of doing things. May get back 600 or so.
I can't say I am certain of this or that it applies to everyone, but if some of the tax changes on write off of state tax on federal tax changed like folks are saying and disability changed like this fella is saying, there is going to be an interesting time coming.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
I am starting to hear this voice in the back of my head:
“When the lights go out, none of this will matter.”
Whoever is left after 3 months will get to decide the definition of “America”
“When the lights go out, none of this will matter.”
Whoever is left after 3 months will get to decide the definition of “America”