Yes, CountrymouseQuestion--do you know if that means they are already testing it on a group of kids that young?
Fauci is hoping the Pfizer vaccine for 5 to 11 will be approved this month. And Moderna in October. They have already been testing 6 month olds.
The testing and "Approval" is meaningless. No matter what, they are giving the shot to kids...All the so called precautions are a smoke screen.Yes
Yes, Countrymouse
Pfizer started testing in March. I did a bunch of research on this recently.
Fauci is hoping the Pfizer vaccine for 5 to 11 will be approved this month. And Moderna in October. They have already been testing 6 month olds.
Whatever.OK, 48.6%
Did you think is was more?Whatever.
Yes
Yes, Countrymouse
Pfizer started testing in March. I did a bunch of research on this recently.
Fauci is hoping the Pfizer vaccine for 5 to 11 will be approved this month. And Moderna in October. They have already been testing 6 month olds.
Did you think is was more?
In theory, it would be possible on the interstates. But on the 100's (or maybe 1000's) of other smaller crossings, that is a massive amount of man power to keep up and running 24-7. Some states where there are mountain ranges, or where there are rivers as borders, that might be possible. But even then it would be a huge manhour investment when there is not enough to go around as it stands.
There are about 78,366 peace officers in Texas. If the average border crossing had 6 officers posted, that would mean that only about 3200 crossings could be staffed if they worked in 8 hour shifts with no days off, and all the criminals decided to stop doing crime, since there were no cops left to arrest them. If they use the military, and they use the all the Army National Guard, Reserves, and Marine Reserves that give about 700k for the whole nation which is about 14,000 per state (but obviously some states need much higher numbers than others). Obviously this whole paragraph of numbers is extreme and not realistic.
I don't know how many crossing there are in most states, or even in Texas, but it seems like setting up meaningful checkpoint would be impossible. On the other hand, checkpoints that are "just for show" on a few well travelled interstates might have political effect.
If anyone has a way to look up the number of crossing from one state to another (without pulling it up and counting), I'd love to know. I couldn't find any info in duckduckgo, but probably looking for the wrong key words.
Soon tonight? Or some time this week?
No, I issued a smart ass remark because the point was NOT the exact amount but the fact it is happening...perhaps I took it wrong.I think you issued a smart-ass response for no good reason, that's what I think. Frankly, it's not like you.
I don't want to argue with you because you're frustrated. We're all frustrated. More than frustrated.
Fauci said earlier this summer he expected 6 month olds vaccinated the start of 2022. He'll probably make sure that happens.Thank you.
someone else made fun of me for suggesting younger kids were getting the vax.
I didn't feel like arguing today.
ETA--wait---did you say six MONTHS ?!?
Dear God, the poor babies! (thinking about the information coming in on what it's doing to their blood cells)
No, I issued a smart ass remark because the point was NOT the exact amount but the fact it is happening...perhaps I took it wrong.
If so I am sorry to be short
Yes but they would in fact not help or support us when push comes to shove, they can pay lip service but in the end they will do as they are told...They may not like it but they sure wont do anything about it.Well, my point only addressed the idea that half the country (or more) is against the unvaxxed and want to present a Final Solution. I know too many people who disagree with the unvaxxed stance but simultaneously think Mandates are madness to harbor that expectation.
Do I believe TPTB would love to inculcate such an environment? Oh hell yeah. So we have to remain on-guard.
Unless Biden/Lieden uses the MILITARY he just brought home, to do it.
(hearing the Star Wars Storm Trooper theme in the back of my mind)
What's the UN got to do with it?
Maybe he's announcing only Americans have to wear masks and get vaccinated.
Was actually listening to the Imperial March less than an hour ago
I think the US has about 2.1 million troops, if you include every troop in every country, including those in the Coast Guard, Space Guard, Pentagon, embassies, everything. Although that sounds like a lot, that is only about 40,000 per state. (Average. Again, states like Texas would need more than Hawaii).
It seems like it would be an extremely difficult task, when forcing compliance would be much easier many other ways.
Yes but they would in fact not help or support us when push comes to shove, they can pay lip service but in the end they will do as they are told...They may not like it but they sure wont do anything about it.
That was why I was thinking about something relating to international travel.
Maybe a bunch of us will simply, "disappear."
That would make their job a LOT easier..............
But then, hold on for the ride--
For there will be no more brakes on this thing........
Yeah I have had similar experience , both ways however.I'm prepared to be on my own without their help, but we don't know what others will do or not do. Support or not support. I do know a lot of the vaxxed are having buyer's remorse. I have someone particularly close to me that I had a huge schism with who finally said to me "If this vaccine is so good, why are there still cases? I don't think I want the booster anymore". If you knew the width of our divide, you would be shocked. I was.
My example above is personal, but I have read of more similar epiphanies. People are figuring the situation out. The real challenge is for some of them getting over their pride.
Yeah I have had similar experience , both ways however.
I had one turn 180 degree and start to support the mandates because his mother got sick, even though she was given the 2 shots ( it is not a vax) he actually blamed a child for not having the shot but had a minor case, not even sure if that is how she got it.
He was not open to the idea that the shot gave it to her.
The point is we pretty much do know what people will do...whatever they feel is in their own best interest...I see rats in the future, YMMV
I'm prepared to be on my own without their help, but we don't know what others will do or not do. Support or not support. I do know a lot of the vaxxed are having buyer's remorse. I have someone particularly close to me that I had a huge schism with who finally said to me "If this vaccine is so good, why are there still cases? I don't think I want the booster anymore". If you knew the width of our divide, you would be shocked. I was.
My example above is personal, but I have read of more similar epiphanies. People are figuring the situation out. The real challenge is for some of them getting over their pride.
Or it's like a mark finally realizing they have been played as a sucker.
Might?.....sooner than laterThat might get bloody real quick??
Yeah!Give some thought to the personality types who refuse the vaxx and were forced to take it due to job concerns.
They doubt everything about it.
Critical thinkers, somewhat logical in perception, etc.
As I said about those type of people in another thread...they typically get things done and make things happen.
The pro vaxx types are followers and/or took it out of fear.
Who would you want on your side?
Couldn't they station State Troopers or military at interstates where they cross state lines (like where they have the state "welcome" stations at every state line--at least, they have those here in the south, when we've gone from GA to TN, NC, SC, AL, or FL, so I assume they have those at every state line?).
Stop all the cars, and not let them through unless all occupants can show proof of vax.
OR, write "tickets" for those without a vax, with a punitive fine if they can't appear in court in 60 days having PROOF of vaccination...