CORONA 5 Questions to Ask Your Friends Who Plan to Get the COVID Vaccine

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Laughing again this morning....

If you insist that you have your right to refuse, why not let others have the right to make their own decision without ranting about how stupid they are? Works both ways.

I detest evangelists of ANY stripe. Go about your own business and let others do the same. I truly do not give one idle crap whether you take the vax or not. Grant everybody else the same freedom.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
I had an employee's dad die last week from his second Covid injection. Man was 80 years old and had COPD and just beat cancer and his immune system was still compromised. First shot went o.k. Had a reaction to the second shot on a Friday by the next day he was in excruciating pain and went into the ER. From the blood work they determined that he had several huge clots in his legs and the next day he was put into a medically induced coma, threw a clot and was dead within minutes.

They got the official cause of death back yesterday and it was labeled as cancer and COPD. Except they didn't do an autopsy, he was certified cancer free and no longer in treatment and had COPD for years on supplement oxygen. Everything was fine until hours after his second Covid vaccination.

And of course this man's death is not going to be recorded in the Covid vaccine adverse affects database. Didn't even do an autopsy and yet they declared his death due to cancer and COPD.

Personally I think the first shot caused him to produce the spike proteins and the second shot sent him into cytokine storm of sorts causing the clots which he didn't have before the second vaccination injection.
If the father made this decision, then you have to respect his choice and the consequences. I personally would think twice before taking the shot if I had just gone through a cancer treatment (chemo and radiation?) that left my immune system compromised. I would caution against giving the shot to any severely ill person; especially those with one foot out the door.
Just curious...was it Pfizer or Moderna?

Your employee can report for his father.
VAERS accepts reports from anyone. Patients, parents, caregivers and healthcare providers (HCP) are encouraged to report adverse events after vaccination to VAERS even if it is not clear that the vaccine caused the adverse event. In addition, HCP are required to report certain adverse events after vaccination.

Furthermore:
Healthcare providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination [under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)], and other adverse events if later revised by CDC:

  • Vaccine administration errors, whether or not associated with an adverse event (AE)
  • Serious AEs regardless of causality. Serious AEs per FDA are defined as:
    1. Death;
    2. A life-threatening AE;
    3. Inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization;
    4. A persistent or significant incapacity or substantial disruption of the ability to conduct normal life functions;
    5. A congenital anomaly/birth defect;
    6. An important medical event that based on appropriate medical judgement may jeopardize the individual and may require medical or surgical intervention to prevent one of the outcomes listed above.
  • Cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome
  • Cases of COVID-19 that result in hospitalization or death
Healthcare providers are encouraged to report to VAERS any additional clinically significant AEs following vaccination, even if they are not sure if vaccination caused the event.
 
I sent this and others to my cousins liberal wife. She does not believe anything i send her. I even send her articles of people dying a few hours after getting the vaccine and doctors videos. She says it's all fake news. I can't wait for her to get the shot cuz i want to see if she gets sick. By the way my cousin is Conservative and he's not getting the shot. They fight almost every day about politics.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Do you know they haven't isolated the virus?
NO I don't know that, because they freaking have.
Since Jan 2020 and virus samples sent to requesting labs and research facilities in Feb.
Where the hell do you get your erroneous info??

 

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther
NO I don't know that, because they freaking have.
Since Jan 2020 and virus samples sent to requesting labs and research facilities in Feb.
Where the hell do you get your erroneous info??

NO I don't know that, because they freaking have.
Since Jan 2020 and virus samples sent to requesting labs and research facilities in Feb.
Where the hell do you get your erroneous info??

Who has it?
Do you know the definition of "isolate"?
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Who has it?
Do you know the definition of "isolate"?
Do you?
Every lab that is doing research on covid and has proper facilities for isolation and safe handling, has it.
Covid 19 virus is available for research to any qualified facility. Has been for a year. :shk:

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community.

One important way that CDC has supported global efforts to study and learn about SARS-CoV-2 in the laboratory was by growing the virus in cell culture and ensuring that it was widely available. Researchers in the scientific and medical community can use virus obtained from this work in their studies.

I believe the above qualifies as having been isolated :shk:
If you believe different show my your source and proof.
 

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther

Dr. Andrew Kaufman refutes “isolation” of SARS-Cov-2; he does step-by-step analysis of a typical claim of isolation; there is no proof that the virus exists

Apr21by Jon Rappoport
by Jon Rappoport
April 21, 2021
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The global medical community has been asserting that “a pandemic is being caused by a virus, SARS-Cov-2.”
But what if the virus doesn’t exist?
People have been asking me for a step-by-step analysis of a mainstream claim of virus-isolation. Well, here it is.
“Isolation” should mean the virus has been separated out from all surrounding material, so researchers can say, “Look, we have it. It exists.”
I took a typical passage from a published study, a “methods” section, in which researchers describe how they “isolated the virus.” I sent it to Dr. Andrew Kaufman [1], and he provided his analysis in detail.
I found several studies that used very similar language in explaining how “SARS-CoV-2 was isolated.” For example, “Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States, (Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol. 26, No. 6 — June 2020)” [2].
First, I want to provide a bit of background that will help the reader understand what is going on in the study.
The researchers are creating a soup in the lab. This soup contains a number of compounds. The researchers assume, without evidence, that “the virus” is in this soup. At no time do they separate the purported virus from the surrounding material in the soup. Isolation of the virus is not occurring.
They set about showing that the monkey (and/or human cells) they put in the soup are dying. This cell-death, they claim, is being caused by “the virus.” However, as you’ll see, Dr. Kaufman dismantles this claim.
There is no reason to infer that SARS-CoV-2 is in the soup at all, or that it is killing cells.
Finally, the researchers assert, with no proof or rational explanation, that they were able to discover the genetic sequence of “the virus.”
Here are the study’s statements claiming isolation, alternated with Dr. Kaufman’s analysis:
STUDY: “We used Vero CCL-81 cells for isolation and initial passage…”
KAUFMAN: “Vero cells are foreign cells from the kidneys of monkeys and a source of contamination. Virus particles should be purified directly from clinical samples in order to prove the virus actually exists. Isolation means separation from everything else. So how can you separate/isolate a virus when you add it to something else?”
STUDY: “…We cultured Vero E6, Vero CCL-81, HUH 7.0, 293T, A549, and EFKB3 cells in Dulbecco minimal essential medium (DMEM) supplemented with heat-inactivated fetal bovine serum (5% or 10%)…”
KAUFMAN: “Why use minimal essential media, which provides incomplete nutrition [to the cells]? Fetal bovine serum is a source of foreign genetic material and extracellular vesicles, which are indistinguishable from viruses.”
STUDY: “…We used both NP and OP swab specimens for virus isolation. For isolation, limiting dilution, and passage 1 of the virus, we pipetted 50 μL of serum-free DMEM into columns 2–12 of a 96-well tissue culture plate, then pipetted 100 μL of clinical specimens into column 1 and serially diluted 2-fold across the plate…”
KAUFMAN: “Once again, misuse of the word isolation.”
STUDY: “…We then trypsinized and resuspended Vero cells in DMEM containing 10% fetal bovine serum, 2× penicillin/streptomycin, 2× antibiotics/antimycotics, and 2× amphotericin B at a concentration of 2.5 × 105 cells/mL…”
KAUFMAN: “Trypsin is a pancreatic enzyme that digests proteins. Wouldn’t that cause damage to the cells and particles in the culture which have proteins on their surfaces, including the so called spike protein?”
KAUFMAN: “Why are antibiotics added? Sterile technique is used for the culture. Bacteria may be easily filtered out of the clinical sample by commercially available filters (GIBCO) [3]. Finally, bacteria may be easily seen under the microscope and would be readily identified if they were contaminating the sample. The specific antibiotics used, streptomycin and amphotericin (aka ‘ampho-terrible’), are toxic to the kidneys and we are using kidney cells in this experiment! Also note they are used at ‘2X’ concentration, which appears to be twice the normal amount. These will certainly cause damage to the Vero cells.”
STUDY: “…We added [not isolated] 100 μL of cell suspension directly to the clinical specimen dilutions and mixed gently by pipetting. We then grew the inoculated cultures in a humidified 37°C incubator in an atmosphere of 5% CO2 and observed for cytopathic effects (CPEs) daily. We used standard plaque assays for SARS-CoV-2, which were based on SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) protocols…”
STUDY: “When CPEs were observed, we scraped cell monolayers with the back of a pipette tip…”
KAUFMAN: “There was no negative control experiment described. Control experiments are required for a valid interpretation of the results. Without that, how can we know if it was the toxic soup of antibiotics, minimal nutrition, and dying tissue from a sick person which caused the cellular damage or a phantom virus? A proper control would consist of the same exact experiment except that the clinical specimen should come from a person with illness unrelated to covid, such as cancer, since that would not contain a virus.”
STUDY: “…We used 50 μL of viral lysate for total nucleic acid extraction for confirmatory testing and sequencing. We also used 50 μL of virus lysate to inoculate a well of a 90% confluent 24-well plate.”
KAUFMAN: “How do you confirm something that was never previously shown to exist? What did you compare the genetic sequences to? How do you know the origin of the genetic material since it came from a cell culture containing material from humans and all their microflora, fetal cows, and monkeys?”
—end of study quotes and Kaufman analysis—
My comments: Dr. Kaufman does several things here. He shows that isolation, in any meaningful sense of the word “isolation,” is not occurring.
Dr. Kaufman also shows that the researchers want to use damage to the cells and cell-death as proof that “the virus” is in the soup they are creating. In other words, the researchers are assuming that if the cells are dying, it must be the virus that is doing the killing. But Dr. Kaufman shows there are obvious other reasons for cell damage and death that have nothing to do with a virus. Therefore, no proof exists that “the virus” is in the soup or exists at all.
And finally, Dr. Kaufman explains that the claim of genetic sequencing of “the virus” is absurd, because there is no proof that the virus is present. How do you sequence something when you haven’t shown it exists?
Readers who are unfamiliar with my work (over 300 articles on the subject of the “pandemic” during the past year [4]) will ask: Then why are people dying? What about the huge number of cases and deaths? I have answered these and other questions in great detail. The subject of this article is: have researchers proved SARS-CoV-2 exists?
The answer is no.
SOURCES:
[1] Home - Dr. Andrew Kaufman, M.D.
[2] Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States
[3] Thermo Fisher Scientific - US
[4] Covid « Jon Rappoport's Blog
 
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