CORONA UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
WOW!! Sundance currently has 2,290 responses to his question! ....and I'm going to read a lot of them.

I'll answer his question in a reply post here and on his forum, but it's a great question.


UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?

January 13, 2023 | Sundance | 2,290 Comments

I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.

First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.

In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.

The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.

In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.

There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.

If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.

Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.

I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.

Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.

Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.

Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.

As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.

Love to all,

Sundance

I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.

Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?

With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.

If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?

If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.

I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
 
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Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
My first reason for not taking it was because any vax I've had in the past made me deathly ill. Flu shot - out sick for 2 months. Pneumonia shot - double pneumonia 3 months later followed by 3 more years of pneumonia. That was enough beating over the head for me. NO MORE SHOTS.

My other reason was because I had researched and found these vaxes were new to the market and hadn't be officially approved. There was just no way I was going to be a guinea pig for our government or the pharmaceutical companies.

I didn't lose friends or family but I lost a lot of respect for church leaders, (who should have known better), including my own who fed into and went along with people's fear, where God's Word commands us not to fear anyone or anything except God.
ETA: Lastly, I'm just not a 'group thinker,' I'm an 'outside of the box kind of gal which makes me very stubborn person when it comes to following the crowd or political correctness. Breast Cancer Awareness month? Got in a big fight w/my co-workers b/c I wouldn't wear a pink shirt for the month.
 
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I've been skeptical of vaccines for the longest time. I've never had a flu shot, no shingles shot, no pneumonia shot either and I'm quickly approaching 76.

A doctor that I truly trusted told me that if you've had shingles, the vaccine is worthless. And of course "they" say it may help you to never have shingles again. I had shingles and it recurred for at least 20 years. Although I only had it in one small place (thank you Jesus) and it was miserable, at least I didn't have it in a large area.

I know people that will automatically do what their doctor tells them to do. That is probably what happened to Lisa Marie. I've had a few doctors through the years that warned me to question everything.

no how, no way. the only time I very briefly considered it was when I was in the er with covid and I was so miserable, but it was only for a second that I considered it.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
The narrative around the whole thing was too insistent. Plus the stories of people who either fell over right after the shot and the ones who's bodies resisted it better and then they conked over. Not to mention, 10 yrs ago I took a flu shot. I got the flu a month later. Then a month after that, I got the damn flu again. So, no.

And: I was at the doctor's trying to find out what was wrong with me When all this thing started. They decided I had luekemia.
The bastard fired me because I didn't cooperate with what they wanted to do to me. I saw the evil mask fall over his face as I backed out of the room.

Yeah, don't come at me with a needle, I'll probably stick it in your eye. I still have Luekemia, but I'm mostly ok. It can take years for it to kill me. I think the Book of Revelation will arrive before I die of the luekemia.
And no shingles shot either, I had shingles. THE most miserable time of my life.
 
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Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
There are 32 pages of responses but here are 10 just from the first page.



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nadhob

Veteran Member
My father, may he RIP, taught me as a young man don't be the first to rush out to buy or try something new. Give it a little time to prove itself, then if you feel the same way as before, go ahead and try it. Sound advice, turned out to be the best thing I never did.
Here' a piece honoring all of us purebloods:


"Even if I were pollinated and fully vaccinated, I would admire the unvaccinated for withstanding the greatest pressure I have ever seen, even from partners, parents, children, friends, colleagues and doctors.
People who were capable of such personality, courage and critical ability are undoubtedly the best of humanity. They are everywhere, in all ages, levels of education, states and ideas. They are of a special kind; they are the soldiers that every army of light wants to have in its ranks. They are the parents that every child wants to have and the children that every parent dreams of having.
They are beings above the average of their societies, they are the essence of the people who have built all cultures and conquered horizons. They are there, next to you, they look normal, but they are superheroes. They did what others could not, they were the tree that withstood the hurricane of insults, discrimination and social exclusion. And they did it because they thought they were alone, and believed they were the only ones.
Banned from their families' tables at Christmas, they never saw anything so cruel. They lost their jobs, let their careers sink, had no more money ... but they didn't care. They suffered immeasurable discrimination, denunciation, betrayal and humiliation ... but they kept going.
Never before in humanity has there been such a "casting", now we know who are the best on planet Earth. Women, men, old, young, rich, poor, of all races or religions, the unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark, the only ones who managed to resist when everything collapsed.
That's you, you passed an unimaginable test that many of the toughest Marines, Commandos, Green Berets, astronauts and geniuses could not withstand. You are made of the stuff of the greatest who ever lived, those heroes born among ordinary men who glow in the dark." ~ Author unknown
 

All-in

Contributing Member
Two reasons. I believe my Father in heaven equipped our bodies to be able to handle things like the rona, adapt to it, generate a response to fight it, and develop a resistance if we do our part. I was never vaxxed as a child and never got sick. (Thank you mother! I know it wasn't easy). I've tried to keep my immune system strong through nutrition, exercise, and supplements, so confident my system would be okay.

Second reason, as others have said, any time the .gov tries to push something so hard, coerce, ridicule, etc., I have never in history in any country seen it turn out positive for the people. As soon as I saw that happening there was no way I was getting it.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I worked from home, so I got no job pressure for taking it. The folks did, but that was them. No one ever put all those stupid "you must be jabbed to enter" signs. Some tried, like Menard's, but no one followed up.

The whole thing smelled to high heaven so I stayed away.
That's what I thought too!
They are trying TOO. HARD to get us vaxxed for a disease that is not that deadly?
Something was suspicious, my instict kicked In, my gut was saying DO NOT TAKE THIS!
Throughout my life I have never "gone with the crowd". I have taken a lot of peer pressure for that, ridicule and abuse, but I have always been an independent thinker.
My dad told me when I was little, "It takes a LIVE FISH to swim upstream against the current, any, even dead fish can float downstream with the current!"
When I first learned about lemmings it cemented my resolve to NOT RUN WITH THE HERD..
 
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Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns


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theoriginaldeb

Still A Geology Fanatic
The guy on the left in my avatar had a rare maternally inherited mtDNA mutation. It is lethal depending on the percentage of inheritance--his was 90%+or -. So no, our mitochondrial disease will take me down like it did him. The list of health problems is too long to mention but we let the general population take point on this worldwide guinea pig experiment.
We were enrolled in many rare disease studies related to energy production--Until Obamacare took out the rare disease clinics
. So I protect what mtDNA I have left-- after isolating and still getting the corona crap October of '21---it has become part of the chronic disease I deal with ---without the clot shot to help it along. When I heard that the vaccine was a rDNA based shot--I thought OMG--they are going to make many many people vulnerable to their DNA weaknesses?
I wonder sometimes if some of the research done to 'help' a few with their rare diseases was used to assist their scheme.
*rant off*
 

greysage

On The Level
Pretty much anything the globohomocabal is in agreement on us doing, I know to avoid it or do the opposite.
It was also clear that it was a massive psychological brainwashing operation.
The massive and constant push against choice and dissent should have been a warning sign to many.

ETA: I felt an ache in my heart and soul anytime someone I knew told me that they took the injections.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Simple for me. A flu shot in 2009 knocked me off my feet and almost killed me.Took months before one leg worked at all and then Psoriasis and lymphedema struck all caused by the shot. Only one Dr I saw admitted the vaccine caused all of it. That's when I knew what a bunch of lying sobs they were. And he was hush hush. So it was easy for me to say no way. Wouldn't let my DH get one either,
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
The biggest irony is that in order to medically care for others deathly ill in a healthcare setting, employees were required to get the ‘jab’ if they wanted to continue providing care.

That’s one of the things that was truly messed up in this whole fustercluck.

Even with that requirement, there were some members here that didn’t survive even with the care of the ‘vaxxed’ members of society doing all they could do to stave off that unfortunate outcome.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Why not?

I'm a software/computer systems engineer.

I learned a long time ago to never, ever touch the first release of any new technology
. . . especially if it was business critical.

And I have seen the effectiveness rating for mumps and flu vaccines.

Figured I would wait until release version 10.3 of the vax.
And we are not even close to that yet.

However, there is nothing wrong with making money on people who will implement the first version of anything, so study up and figure out what services you can provide to those willing to take the risk.
Opportunities abound - gonna be some good money made off this one.
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Knee jerk reaction based on my upbringing. Government approved --automatic no.

My dad was in the army at the right time and place to have been affected by the bluebird/monarch experiments. We didn't know anything about that until long after he passed, but once we started researching, it checked all the boxes.
He always said he wouldn't raise any bleeping patriots, and by his definition, he didn't.
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Periodic collapses (and/or death) from the onset was a clue something wasn't right. But for me the real, red flags started when they began vilifying Hydroxychloroquine/Z treatment the same time as mega-pushing the shot. That was when I took my stand, especially after I first-hand witnessed Hydrox/Zpack saving my 97 yr.old weak, severe UTI infected, nursing home prime-death candidate MIL from Covid just before they stopped Hydrox./Z for good.

After the mandates started, I don't see how anyone could trust taking it after that.
 

Texas Writer

Veteran Member
WOW!! Sundance currently has 2,290 responses to his question! ....and I'm going to read a lot of them.

I'll answer his question in a reply post here and on his forum, but it's a great question.


UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?

January 13, 2023 | Sundance | 2,290 Comments

I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.

First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.

In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.

The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.

In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.

There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.

If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.

Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.

I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.

Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.

Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.

Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.

As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.

Love to all,

Sundance

I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.

Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?

With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.

If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?

If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.

I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
Simple. Government wanted me to do it.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Intuition led to suspicion.

The subsequent government coercion led to confirmation.

But, knowing the background, especially the Georgia Guidestone’s stated desire to reduce Earth’s population to one half billion, that had me on the lookout.

And even apart from all that, I never “trust the science.” Seems like a good thread to repost one of many reasons why:
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I've been skeptical of vaccines for the longest time. I've never had a flu shot, no shingles shot, no pneumonia shot either and I'm quickly approaching 76.

A doctor that I truly trusted told me that if you've had shingles, the vaccine is worthless. And of course "they" say it may help you to never have shingles again. I had shingles and it recurred for at least 20 years. Although I only had it in one small place (thank you Jesus) and it was miserable, at least I didn't have it in a large area.

I know people that will automatically do what their doctor tells them to do. That is probably what happened to Lisa Marie. I've had a few doctors through the years that warned me to question everything.

no how, no way. the only time I very briefly considered it was when I was in the er with covid and I was so miserable, but it was only for a second that I considered it.
I don't fault anyone who did take it. Some people had to get it to keep their jobs (bastard employers) and some people just do it because, well whatever. Its a personal choice and its still a somewhat free country.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
More than 40 years prior to the first mention of COVID-19, I worked several years for a pharmaceutical research company that concentrated on Phase 1 and 2 clinical trials. I was head of the department that was responsible for pre-screening, enrollment, and follow-up with volunteers. As I learned about the methodology of the protocol and accelerated time frames being used for the vax trials, I grew increasingly alarmed.
 
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