he's running

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Democrats kept President Trump completely busy in his first term with
with one ambush after another. It was near impossible for him to get much of
anything done. He was faced with one fight after another from every direction.
It was really non-stop BS by the Democrats to interfere with the Executive branch.

I thought that he held up rather well.
I don't see that President Trump and I will ever be personal friends and I'm
not planning on having him over for Sunday dinner.
I just want someone in the White House that can get the job done, and if
he's an ass in the process, so be it.

President Trump needs to return to the White House with a vengeance, heads need
to roll, literally not figuratively.
It would require that he first dress down the military. Flush out all the traitorous generals, admirals, colonels and bureaucracy tyrants. Then he would need to declare national security emergency and establish martial law. Then he can clean house.
 

The Hammer

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I think some will run. I suspect Pence is one of them. I used to listen to him years ago when he had a radio show out of Indianapolis and he was very conservative. He doesn't have Trump's speaking power but that would appeal to those who thought Trump was loud and rude. I doubt Pence could ever win election.
It's WAY early still. The clown car will fill up, as it always does. Mostly with folks who have no shot.

Pence will run. Liz Cheney very possibly. Heck, Mitt might even throw his hat in. I don't think they'll let Trump be the only guy in the arena.
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
It would require that he first dress down the military. Flush out all the traitorous generals, admirals, colonels and bureaucracy tyrants. Then he would need to declare national security emergency and establish martial law. Then he can clean house.
I'm not so sure of martial law?

However, he needs to kick ass and take names next time. The gloves need to come off.

I do have my doubts that he will ever see a second term.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns


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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!


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Which kinda leads me back to the question I asked a few weeks ago.

That's awesome and all, but what does he do about the cheating?
 

Donghe Surfer

Veteran Member
i predict the repub rinos will conspire with dems to set up an indie candidate in 2024 to take votes from trump (if he gets nomination), effectively giving it to dems
 

bassaholic

Veteran Member
Divide and conquer.

C'mon folks.

Ya'll smarter than this.

Operation warp speed. Get yo jab. Even way late into the game, get yo jab.

They are ALL puppets.

Distractions.

Programmable money incoming.

I don't want to turn this into a "religious post" and get the boot but the time is near....real near.
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
Three words.

All. Is. Forgiven.

He did well with the information he had at the moment. He had no idea of the dark forces operating in the background to destroy him... at all costs.
He already is destroyed. Only he and the people living in his bubble with him don't seem to know it. He is unelectable. His core base of loyal followers is not remotely big enough to win in 2024. He has already lost the Independents and the Moderate Republicans. Given a likely piss poor choice by the Dems in 2024, many of the Moderate Republicans will vote for him, but not all, and without the Independents he will never carry the vital purple States needed to win.

At the same time the Republican party will likely shoot themselves in the foot by not getting behind one challenger to oppose him in the primaries. Many challengers will just split the vote, same as occurred in 2016, and he'll walk away with the nomination again.

It all comes down to whether the Republican party wants the R's to prevail in 2024, or do they want to keep on pretending Trump can win. The disasterous 2022 elections should be a wake up call that he isn't the kingmaker he thinks he is. He is running on ego at this point, not reality.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns


He’s Back, President Donald J Trump Officially Declares His Candidacy to Run for President in 2024

November 16, 2022 | Sundance | 275 Comments

I have written and deleted a thousand words, repeatedly, in an effort to encapsulate what this moment means to me, and perhaps to others. However, when you boil the essence of the thing down to its important part, you are left with a question: Which American politician loves this country more than Donald John Trump?

The honest answer is ‘no one’.

There’s not a force of man or nature as strong in its devotion to a mission, as Donald Trump is to this nation.
That’s the core, the heart, the genuine essence of the thing, that separates President Trump from all others. Within that love of country, is a strength of determination that is almost uncanny to witness; and from that love of country an authenticity emanates that is impossible to duplicate.

Donald J Trump is, quite simply, unapologetically American – and tens of millions just love him for it. :eleph:

Tonight, with his family by his side, President Donald Trump announced his intention to seek the GOP nomination in 2024 and run for President of the United States.

Yes, I don’t give a flying flip what any detractor of this nation might try to say, Donald Trump is exactly what we need.

Many people are exhausted from the battle to save this republic. Many people are frustrated and despondent from the scale of the effort it takes to push back against the metastatic corruption that has infected our entire body politic. Even more people are tired of having to constantly look behind the duplicitous motives and conniving schemes of the professional political class, and for those people Trump kneels and says, ‘get on my back and rest for a moment’.

You see, back in 2015 when Donald Trump first announced his intention to run for the presidency the following year, the assembly on these pages had spent years fighting against the corrupt republican political establishment while most just strolled by oblivious to it. We assembled as The Last Refuge, and we immediately spotted the possibility Donald J Trump represented.


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One of the first 2015 responses about Trump I shared to a friend who didn’t follow politics closely but was essentially and ally in outlook, was that Donald Trump could show up to the first GOP debate in 5″ heels and a Carmen Miranda hat and start dancing on Jeb Bush’s podium, and Trump would earn my vote. :lol:

I felt that way because I could see the cancerous rot that was destroying the working class and simultaneously infecting the Republican party. Severe measures would be needed to counteract this Machiavellian political construct in DC that was only getting worse. We needed a major disruption and Donald Trump was ideal for that role.

As I look at the 2024 landscape what I see different is what I see better. Just about everyone now sees the level of corruption that exists in the apparatus of government, thanks to President Trump’s first term in office.

Additionally, President Trump purged the conniving DeceptiCons, the duplicitous Republicans who existed to maintain the UniParty, by forcing the GOPe liars to expose themselves in his opposition. No longer is a conversation needed to convince people that most politicians are part of one DC UniParty apparatus. Two wings of the same corrupt vulture feeding on the carcass of our republic. Everyone can see that now, thanks to Donald Trump.

Despite their refusal to accept reality, the Bush, Cheney, McConnell, McCain, Romney Republican Party is gone. Donald Trump destroyed it. The Republican Party will never again be the Bush-Romney Republican Party. Donald Trump opened the door, and the working-class has moved in to take control. The Republican party is not going back to the Bush/Romney outlook, regardless of how much Mitch McConnell tries to scheme its return.

We need a Big Ugly wrecking ball to unseat the corrupt power structures that Trump alone made visible. There is no other person in this era of our nation’s history with the capacity to do that. Only Donald J Trump has the energy and fortitude to carry out this fight.

President Trump is the people’s response to The Great Reset by saying, like hell you will.”

I would not miss this opportunity for anything.

I’m all in.

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Green Co.

Administrator
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Heck, let's really get the sh!t flowing, Tulsi steps in as an independent. She talks a good line, could pull a lot of independents from either party.


No, she is not my cup of tea.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
The disasterous 2022 elections should be a wake up call that he isn't the kingmaker he thinks he is. He is running on ego at this point, not reality.
The disastrous 2022 election went well for Republicans ON THEIR MERITS in Republican "Red" States. Where Republicans controlled the vote.

The disastrous 2022 election went well for Democrats WITH THEIR CHEATING in Democratic "Blue" States. Where Democrats "played games." Voting machine failure, lights out, ballots in "secure" trash bags, ballots in boxes found by the side of the road.

And then there are states like Cow Hampshire which purports to be "Red", but is really RINO. The Sununu RINO party "controls" this state, and plays games to be sure the RINO wins, and if not RINO THEN Democrats.

The Bolduc-Hassen race a case in point. Owner says he went to a Republican meeting prior to the Republican Primary where no less than FIVE Republicans were vying for the party nomination. He says at least three of these were "shills" placed there simply to "dilute the Republican vote" going to the primary.

The whole point was to dilute the vote for Bolduc, who had put in the work going door to door for TWO YEARS prior to the Primary Vote. Still, and despite the competition, Bolduc won by a small margin over Morse the runner up, RINO, and current State Senate Majority Leader (RINO Party)

When it came time for the actual Mid-Term, alongside Bolduc signs (paid for by private supporters) were Morse signs (paid for by the NH RINO Party) in the hope to "split" the Republican Vote with write in Morse Votes. And cause Bolduc to lose.

Which happened. Bolduc lost to Hassen. And Chris Sununu is fine with that.

He's just doing his part as the head of the NH State "Uniparty."

Dobbin
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I wrote somewhere else that I believe Tulsi is being groomed by the WEF and other unsavory organizations. I expect to see her make a big splash on the world stage in the coming months.

I discussed DJT's run with several trusted folks offline. We will support him, but we won't be blind followers. I, myself, am still giving him the benefit of the doubt on several issues. We've got to work a lot harder on election reform: that's something a lot of us offline are fully supporting.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
No rightie will win POTUS, the left proved their ability to destroy the opposition over the last 5 years.
It was supposed to be 2016 too - but the Democrats got "cocky" and hadn't refined the technique of "delays/vote creation" yet. Covid/Mail In gave them that ability.

It is thought that 2012 was rigged too - exit polling DID favor the Republican. But Mittens (Mitt Romney) was such a good RINO he inspired no "True Republican Enthusiasm" which back then MIGHT overwhelm a rigging. And this was used even by the Democrats as excuse to defer any investigation of rigging.

"See? No rigging here. You just needed a candidate more in tune with your base."

I.e. Mitt was their excuse - and in being so he "paid back" Democratic influence in his prior Colorado races.

Dobbin
 
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Abe Froman

Senior Member
Another way to think about it


Two people that were frequently on Epstein’s island. Biden and Trump

I know Trump is the lesser of two evils. He only flew on Epstein’s plane 7 times and Biden was on the log 9 times. Yeah!
I used to work in the private jet business. Rich people end up on each other’s jets all the time. Jet ownership is a small club. Not unusual to ride on someone else’s if yours is occupied.

The question is did Trump EVER go to Epstein’s private sex island.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
His daughter and therefore he husband are staying out of politics, said his daughter. She was not at the announcement. And that's a good thing.
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
The disastrous 2022 election went well for Republicans ON THEIR MERITS in Republican "Red" States. Where Republicans controlled the vote.

The disastrous 2022 election went well for Democrats WITH THEIR CHEATING in Democratic "Blue" States. Where Democrats "played games." Voting machine failure, lights out, ballots in "secure" trash bags, ballots in boxes found by the side of the road.

And then there are states like Cow Hampshire which purports to be "Red", but is really RINO. The Sununu RINO party "controls" this state, and plays games to be sure the RINO wins, and if not RINO THEN Democrats.

The Bolduc-Hassen race a case in point. Owner says he went to a Republican meeting prior to the Republican Primary where no less than FIVE Republicans were vying for the party nomination. He says at least three of these were "shills" placed there simply to "dilute the Republican vote" going to the primary.

The whole point was to dilute the vote for Bolduc, who had put in the work going door to door for TWO YEARS prior to the Primary Vote. Still, and despite the competition, Bolduc won by a small margin over Morse the runner up, RINO, and current State Senate Majority Leader (RINO Party)

When it came time for the actual Mid-Term, alongside Bolduc signs (paid for by private supporters) were Morse signs (paid for by the NH RINO Party) in the hope to "split" the Republican Vote with write in Morse Votes. And cause Bolduc to lose.

Which happened. Bolduc lost to Hassen. And Chris Sununu is fine with that.

He's just doing his part as the head of the NH State "Uniparty."

Dobbin
And so what will be different in 2024 that will cause things to turn out differently than they did in 2022? Or 2020? Or in 2018 when Democrats took control of the House? Are they working right here today on finding candidates that can have a broad enough appeal to attract the necessary moderates in the middle that are vital to winning in purple states? The hard core guy on the right that plays well in a solidly red State won't necessarily play well in a purple State. They should know this but it doesn't seem that they do. They also need to do a better job of screening out candidates with too much baggage that will detract from the message that they are running on. It comes down to do they want to win in 2024 or do they want to keep using the same playbook that has failed 3 elections in a row.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
This can often be true. There are different realms in which enemies exist. Could be political, popularity, international, theosophical, ideological, etc. It is too simple (actually foolish) to say the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Professional wrestlers have big enemies on the stage. They scream bold insulting words. When they get back to HQ and the gym, they joke and play around and work out the next choreographs. Not real enemies, but showmen for the marks paying the money.

Trump is a showman, a dozer, and an unprincipled man. A man who easily lies repeatedly cannot be trusted. Any time he meets up with Macron, watch how he acts. This will tell all.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I will almost certainly vote for President Trump again, but as others on the thread have said, I'm far from being a blind follower. Trump did several things that displease me, but by any metric, he's incomparably better than the current occupant of the White House.

IMHO the most disgraceful thing he's done is to leave the J6 protesters - many of whom are still incarcerated - hanging in the wind. All of the protesters were there at his behest and I think, with Trump's wealth, he could at least be hiring attorneys for them or sending their families at least some economic assistance. If any of that has been happening behind the scenes, I certainly haven't heard of it.

Now, politically, there are two much, much more important observations I have to make. After the last presidential election and in view of the obvious steal, he should've invoked emergency measures, called out the military or done any one of half a dozen other things to prevent the usurper from taking the White House. Perhaps some of those things would've been illegal. So what? Virtually everything the Dems do is illegal. Trump never learned to fight fire with greater fire and after that election, he folded like a cheap suit. Sad, but that's what happened.

The next - and probably more important - issue is the absolute folly of him running at all. Considering the results of his last election and the recent midterm elections, it is obvious that nothing's been fixed with respect of voting integrity and the fix is still in. I've heard Mr. Trump recently talk about the election reforms he plans to promote after he's elected. Shrug. That's predicated on him being elected in the first place and with the corrupt system still firmly in place, I see no possibility of that happening. Why should he even bother to run? It will only result in another defeat and another humiliation for himself and conservatives generally.

I'm aware that some of you will see this post as defeatism and I'll plead mea culpa, but I guess I'd rather be seen as a realistic defeatist that a ridiculously optimistic, ungrounded cheerleader.

Can things change before the election. One would hope so, but I don't see it from my current perch. I'd love to see things change going forward and be proven wrong.

Best
Doc
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I will almost certainly vote for President Trump again, but as others on the thread have said, I'm far from being a blind follower. Trump did several things that displease me, but by any metric, he's incomparably better than the current occupant of the White House.

IMHO the most disgraceful thing he's done is to leave the J6 protesters - many of whom are still incarcerated - hanging in the wind. All of the protesters were there at his behest and I think, with Trump's wealth, he could at least be hiring attorneys for them or sending their families at least some economic assistance. If any of that has been happening behind the scenes, I certainly haven't heard of it.

Now, politically, there are two much, much more important observations I have to make. After the last presidential election and in view of the obvious steal, he should've invoked emergency measures, called out the military or done any one of half a dozen other things to prevent the usurper from taking the White House. Perhaps some of those things would've been illegal. So what? Virtually everything the Dems do is illegal. Trump never learned to fight fire with greater fire and after that election, he folded like a cheap suit. Sad, but that's what happened.

The next - and probably more important - issue is the absolute folly of him running at all. Considering the results of his last election and the recent midterm elections, it is obvious that nothing's been fixed with respect of voting integrity and the fix is still in. I've heard Mr. Trump recently talk about the election reforms he plans to promote after he's elected. Shrug. That's predicated on him being elected in the first place and with the corrupt system still firmly in place, I see no possibility of that happening. Why should he even bother to run? It will only result in another defeat and another humiliation for himself and conservatives generally.

I'm aware that some of you will see this post as defeatism and I'll plead mea culpa, but I guess I'd rather be seen as a realistic defeatist that a ridiculously optimistic, ungrounded cheerleader.

Can things change before the election. One would hope so, but I don't see it from my current perch. I'd love to see things change going forward and be proven wrong.

Best
Doc
I can't disagree with you on any of these points. Even if he makes it to the election, winning will be a serious challenge. I don't think I'm a blind supporter, but he's the best out there that would be on the side of the people. I think he's has some bad advice.

I like DeSantis but he's not got the wealth that Trump does (thank God). Trump's wealth has kept him safe from many things because he can tell them to pound sand. I think DeSanis would make an excellent president, but Florida needs him for four more years, to keep the things in place that he's done.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Another way to think about it


Two people that were frequently on Epstein’s island. Biden and Trump

I know Trump is the lesser of two evils. He only flew on Epstein’s plane 7 times and Biden was on the log 9 times. Yeah!
garbage in, garbage out
 
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