BRKG Master Twitter thread. Elon Musk now owns Twitter, post 144. Heads roll for real
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Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Wait…what…he is one of those Epstein’s Island guys too? I’m shocked…Truly shocked
Now back to my regularly scheduled non-stop checking twitter every second for tweets about the death of Twitter.
SurvivalRing
Rich Fleetwood - Founder - author/coder/podcaster
Regarding #4....If Twitter goes down, THEY can do and get away with anything. How would we know?
No, she's not running for re-election after handing in her gavel....
day late
money? whats that?
That is along the line of my thoughts. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but what if they were locked out so he could access and copy any file he wanted? Maybe handing over a thing or two to the people who are at least the enemy of his enemy? Let those two slug it out and then pick up the piece's kind of thing. Musk didn't get to where he is by being stupid.
Cyclonemom
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This is what Trump should have done his first week in office.
thereisnofork
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Just click on the login button, then when the new login window pops up, click the X to close it, and you can keep scrolling.
MinnesotaSmith
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Then he would know nothing of history.
Re the total closing, this should have been done on Day One to root out all the would-be traitors, what the Russians call The Vertical Stroke.
Musk could have just brought a couple dozen techs over from his other companies to run the place til he could hire his own progs and sysadmins.
MinnesotaSmith
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Anyone that's been fired will likely figure that died with the pink slip. I know I would (if would be wise enough to keep my mouth shut while the other company finished dying or otherwise gets to where they don't give a rat's posterior what I'm doing anymore).
artichoke
Greetings from near tropical NYC!
Some have talents for singing, others for censorship. Probably not many have talent for designing and producing good code at an adequate rate.The liberal minds are going to melt down again when they see twitter doing just fine without a boatload of over entitled, over paid, talentless, and useless bottom feeders draining the kitty and strangling freedom of speech and expression.
artichoke
Greetings from near tropical NYC!
1. Twitter has worked perfectly for me ever since Musk took over, plus the recommended tweets now look interesting. I was just watching a video of a basketball game, isn't that one of the new features Musk wanted? Maybe his goals have now been met and even more can be let go. I never said he's a nice guy ...
2. NK is gonna NK, let's blame Elon for this too.
3. Yes, Lake Erie is warmer than usual. Therefore more lake-effect snow. Those lakes seem nice in summer but they're hell in the winter. But they're now saying "up to" 4 feet. 70+ inches was never in the cards.
4. So all this was a joke after all?
mzkitty
I give up.
wait-n-see
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Nope, the vast majority of s/w grunts deliver good code at an break neck rate, and with quality. That is the nature of most s/w jobs. We never get the time we need based on a 40 hour week and have to crunch it near delivery time.
The non-s/w person does not realize just what a s/w grunt does to get the job done, and it is not surprising.
Been in the s/w business slinging code since the 80s. Defense, semiconductor, telecom, and high tech. Never done business as I was computer science grad. Done avionics, black programs, embedded, robotics, VoIP, AIN, distributed and been doing Cloud server based now for a while.
Working long hours and delivering good quality code that gets the job done is accomplished all the time by s/w grunts. I've had projects where we worked a month for 10 hours every day (required by mgmt), weekends included, to get the release out on time. And it was not paid as we are exempt. But we did it for pride of job, commitment to each other, the company and the customer. And then it would happen again, and again. Nature of the beast. Don't like it, then leave. Seen s/w directors and managers collapse at the office from exhaustion. After getting rested, they come back.
While this is common with working new development, new technology or integrating new hardware, it also happens with legacy systems.
The 5 X 9s mission critical reliability s/w for military, police, hospitals, ATC, is far more difficult than coding a media platform, and it is done by far more s/w grunts than media platforms.
Any competent s/w grunt, science or business, degreed or non-degreed, can join that twitter shop and tear apart that code and figure out what is under the hood and start cranking out new releases and patches in a short time. Its not brain surgery, just hard work.
Heck, I would bet there are some on this board that could be productive day one at that shop, much less a week or month.
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How pathetic that these brats, young and old, think their life is ruined if Twitter doesn't survive. So laughable. It may be hard to believe but I have never Tweeted one single time and my life is pretty damn good right now. Elon can totally burn twitter and he'll still have a few shekels to rub together, I think he'll be just fine with or without it.
MinnesotaSmith
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Do you really believe that? Most employees most places are observably pretty marginal in their performance. Hotshot high-performers are by definition unusual. Why would software be any different? Answer: it probably isn't.
(And, that's without getting into most SW probably coming from dothead/hadji fraudulent scammers now.)
wait-n-see
Veteran Member
I don't need to believe it. I KNOW it as I've been doing it for almost 40 years and still see the same passion being done by most of the s/w engineers I work with today.
Do you have drift backs and dead weight? Of course you do, in every profession in history. Most of them become PMs, QA or testers, get promoted to management, or move to other professions. As for other professions, don't care about them as I only care abut the s/w industry, so I don't track their employee quality one way or the other.
Nope, most software is not coming from "dothead/hadii". Quite a lot is coming from eastern europe, SE asia, the UK and believe it or not, good old American citizen s/w engineers.
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Nice to hear I am “drift back” (whatever that is) or “dead weight”. Been in IT 49 years now.
Mainframes, minicomputers, PCs, networks, database, web, virtualization, cloud, proficient in 15 different programming languages along the way on those various platforms.
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wait-n-see
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Sorry, but where did I call you drift back or dead weight my friend? A drift back is one who does not complete their water marks, falsifies stub or element testing, and proves thru their work ethic or ability to be unfit for the job and industry. Those don't last.
You are far from that.
BTW, we have pretty much the same platforms and languages .... you just have more years than I .. so we are the same.
MinnesotaSmith
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Why do I have so many bugs in my code?
If you have code that’s hard to maintain or find yourself spending more time than you’d like tracking down bugs, there are a few steps you can take now to start writing cleaner code.
www.diffblue.com
"...the average bug frequency is estimated to be between “15 and 50 per 1000 lines of delivered code.”"
Good work on average there, coders.
I was in software development for the first 15 years. Have been in IT management the last 34 years but stayed somewhat hands on for 20 of those years. Not slung much code myself the last 14 years, hence by your definition, I am now “dead weight”.Sorry, but where did I call you drift back or dead weight my friend? A drift back is one who does not complete their water marks, falsifies stub testing or element, and proves thru their work ethic or ability to be unfit for the job and industry. Those don't last.
You are far from that.
wait-n-see
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Why do I have so many bugs in my code?
If you have code that’s hard to maintain or find yourself spending more time than you’d like tracking down bugs, there are a few steps you can take now to start writing cleaner code.
"...the average bug frequency is estimated to be between “15 and 50 per 1000 lines of delivered code.”"
Good work on average there, coders.
Yep, a regular type of "news" making claims about s/w without detailing the level of complexity or type of the s/w ( an embedded system does not equal an applications level which does not equal a DB product which does not equal avionics s/w which does not equal business software, etc, etc, etc), the level of the developers (inexperienced, average, experienced), the age of the s/w or the platform and/IDE being used to develop, text and release the s/w.
Yep, an article of not saying anything.
Can you image how good the author would be for covering the 2020 election?
wait-n-see
Veteran Member
Where did I say that a non-coder is dead weight? No where. The way you define it then every single s/w grunt is dead weight. I don't know why you want to make it be that way. I don't define it that way.
Hmmm….
wait-n-see
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Dang, my bad ....sorry about that.
I was saying that half in jest but forgot I was doing typing and you can't see my emotions. I gotta remember emoticons ...... plus I"m up late after working a customer server with my first morning meeting for the day in 5 hours. I got the youtube bug and have TB2K up in the next window.
Thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it!
You been kidded about moving to management in the s/w industry, right? of that pattern? Almost every manager I've had was kidded about that by the team. Just like the joke for teachers that those who can't do teach and those who can work? I went thru the same ribbing when I was a team leader in the defense and telecom world. I done QA for a time between dev projects in defense. You have to do that instead of sitting on the bench. I also assisted the testing team in a VoIP product as they were short handed and needed help meeting water marks for release.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
He throws the dice where they can’t be seen.I don't know, but they say God has a wicked sense of humor.
Uhhmmm...
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The most diificult thing for new s/w managers to digest is that, for the first time in their lives, the training and development of their employees is more important than their personal training and development.
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Dismember
Peter Principal
Melodi
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The Irish news outlets are reporting (for what it is worth) that a good number of the most senior and experienced engineers are among the people walking away en mass, temporarily shutting down entire departments that are needed to keep things running.
Like a good car, things can run for a while without repair, until suddenly they don't work anymore. They are also reporting that something like 75 percent of the workforce (and I think that was the remaining workforce but hard to tell) has walked away since that memo.
And while I do think that yes, some of this are younger employees who feel entitled to certain perks and don't like the new boss's political views; it is sounding more and more like a lot of the highly trained people, the sort who can probably get jobs in other companies and I don't mean as baristas either; have simply decided they don't want to work in the employment atmosphere that Musk is trying to create.
They may also know about his history of forcing employees in some of his other companies to do long-haul overtime, sleeping at the plant, and not always being properly paid for it. The guy has a nasty reputation as a direct boss, sure he gets things done, but he tends to burn through people.
The Irish press is also reporting he's been calling in the senior engineers and other high-quality people who are leaving and "begging" them to stay or even rehire people he already laid off. A few seem to be accepting whatever private terms he's offering but many are not, they probably don't trust him, and again, from what I've read about him as an employer (long before Twitter) if I had easily moveable skills and a good resume, I'd take a three month paid vacation to do a serious job hunt myself. Especially if I had already saved ahead for emergencies and a good investment or two (which many people paid on that level do have, especially if they are still single).
Sure, there's a certain amount of "Snow Flake Angst" going on, but I doubt those are the people Musk is in a panic over losing.
Of course, there is always the possibility that one reason he was allowed (nearly forced) to buy the company was to take it down and perhaps try to bankrupt Musk, but I have no proof of that. But sometimes I do wonder.
Like a good car, things can run for a while without repair, until suddenly they don't work anymore. They are also reporting that something like 75 percent of the workforce (and I think that was the remaining workforce but hard to tell) has walked away since that memo.
And while I do think that yes, some of this are younger employees who feel entitled to certain perks and don't like the new boss's political views; it is sounding more and more like a lot of the highly trained people, the sort who can probably get jobs in other companies and I don't mean as baristas either; have simply decided they don't want to work in the employment atmosphere that Musk is trying to create.
They may also know about his history of forcing employees in some of his other companies to do long-haul overtime, sleeping at the plant, and not always being properly paid for it. The guy has a nasty reputation as a direct boss, sure he gets things done, but he tends to burn through people.
The Irish press is also reporting he's been calling in the senior engineers and other high-quality people who are leaving and "begging" them to stay or even rehire people he already laid off. A few seem to be accepting whatever private terms he's offering but many are not, they probably don't trust him, and again, from what I've read about him as an employer (long before Twitter) if I had easily moveable skills and a good resume, I'd take a three month paid vacation to do a serious job hunt myself. Especially if I had already saved ahead for emergencies and a good investment or two (which many people paid on that level do have, especially if they are still single).
Sure, there's a certain amount of "Snow Flake Angst" going on, but I doubt those are the people Musk is in a panic over losing.
Of course, there is always the possibility that one reason he was allowed (nearly forced) to buy the company was to take it down and perhaps try to bankrupt Musk, but I have no proof of that. But sometimes I do wonder.
Redleg
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I'm thinking the threat of having to do actual "work" - if you want to call it that, is driving them to quit.
somewherepress
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somewherepress
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20Gauge
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Musk triggers liberals with email urging employees to commit to ‘extremely hardcore’ work: Musk's ‘hellscape'
Liberals on Twitter raged over Elon Musk's recent email to the social media company's employees urging them to commit to "extremely hardcore" work or quit.
www.foxnews.com
Twitter owner Elon Musk’s latest attempt to streamline his new social media company has been met with yet more wailing and gnashing of teeth from disapproving liberals on Twitter.
Early Wednesday morning, the world’s richest man and newly installed Twitter CEO emailed the site’s employees with an ultimatum, obligating them to commit to an "extremely hardcore" work ethic or leaving the company.
Musk argued that Twitter must be ready for a more "increasingly competitive world" and therefore employees must be ready to give more. CNN correspondent Donie O’Sullivan provided a screenshot of Musk’s surprise email.
In it, Musk wrote, "Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."
Many on the left are sounding the alarm about Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover. (FOX)
After mentioning that Twitter will become "much more engineering-driven," he gave his employees a choice to get on board with his ambitions or leave the company. He added, "If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below," adding, "Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance."
He provided a conciliatory sign-off, stating, "Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful."
Musk’s critics interpreted the billionaire’s email as an insult and took to his platform to smear it and call for better treatment of his employees.
Cultural commentator Ryan Pinesworth blasted Musk’s move, tweeting, "Elon Musk sent a midnight email telling Twitter employees to commit to an 'extremely hardcore' work schedule, or get laid off with 3 months severance This is why people aren’t loyal to a [company]. It’s a paycheck, nothing more."
Tech journalist Chris Middleton lectured Musk over his email, tweeting, "The fact that #Musk is now ordering whoever's left at #Twitter HQ to work insanely long hours to create a "hardcore" solution reveals him to be every dumb tech bro you've ever met. He paid $44bn for an almost bankrupt company, with zero due diligence. He's not that clever, folks."
Former New York Times reporter Steven Greenhouse lamented that Musk’s email proves he’s turning Twitter into a "hellscape." He wrote, "After firing half Twitter's workforce and now demanding ‘long hours at high intensity,’ Musk seems to be doing his best to turn Twitter into a place where no one wants to work, where employees will be eager to escape from. Musk is turning Twitter into a hellscape for workers."
Writer Mike Morrison used his personal experience working in tech to describe working for Musk as misery. He tweeted, "I once had a job at pretty big tech company. I hated it. I was miserable and I remember my parents saying to me ‘do you think everything great you’ve done in your life has lead to a job that makes you miserable?; Just quit. And I did the next day. No job is worth misery."
WIRED senior writer Megan Farokhmanesh wrote, "’extremely hardcore’ might be the dweebiest way to tell your employees you plan to run them into the ground and destroy any semblance of a personal life, or else fire them. not content to be ruinously incompetent, he must also be embarrassing."
Digital strategist Leslie Mac encouraged Twitter employees to get Musk to fire them in response to such an email, tweeting, "Twitter employees - time to minimally so-called ‘quiet quit’. Make him fire you."
Business mogul Katie Jacobs Stanton skewered Musk’s behavior, writing, "In a million years, I never thought I would feel this, let alone Tweet this, but I would not recommend any person work at Twitter nor any brand advertise on Twitter given this toxic takeover."
20Gauge
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So he wrote a motivation letter with the option to leave with months of pay.
Yet he is now called stupid, etc.????
Heck I got far far worse emails that were intended to motivate. Elon is giving them a glimpse of his vision and they are freaking......
The world has turned into panzies.... Sorry panzies for the insult
Yet he is now called stupid, etc.????
Heck I got far far worse emails that were intended to motivate. Elon is giving them a glimpse of his vision and they are freaking......
The world has turned into panzies.... Sorry panzies for the insult
Samuel Adams
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I would like to invite the disgruntled portion of the Twitter “work” force out to the homestead…..where I will show them what work….really is.
